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Creating a WSO / Plagirism

by njs10
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Hi,

Just a quick question - if I wanted to create a new WSO, based around one I've previously downloaded, obviously re written and perhaps with screenshots and better detailing, but still essentially the same methodology, can I assume this is ok?

I'm assuming it would be, but just double checking.

Thank you.
#creating #plagirism #wso
  • Profile picture of the author Lauryn
    I say it borders on plagiarism, and being that you've already declared yourself interested in doing this... it would be a huge red flag to the person whose work you've based your improvements upon.

    Remix the entire product, add something new and innovative and really make it your own. Don't just sell a better version of someone else's program.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Tandan
    If it feels wrong, it usually is. And because you've posted here I'm guessing some part of you feels its wrong.
    It's okay if the concept of the WSO you downloaded gave you new ideas that you could use to create a product.

    But to simply re-spin and slightly improve an existing product isn't cool.
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    • Profile picture of the author tngllc
      Interesting question...

      I think that if you are using the product that you bought as a "blueprint" for your own product that is probably not a good idea. It is definitely bordering on plagiarism even if you completely rewrite it in your own words.

      That being said, the knowledge that you got from that product is your own. If you use this knowledge, coupled with your experience from using the the methods (I'm assuming you've made money from the concepts ) you will come up with a very different product that is simply based on the same concepts.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Sounds like plagiarism to me. You're not adding anything. You're just rewriting someone else's product. I recommend you come up with your own product.
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
    Don't bother. I've pointed this out to the gentleman who approves WSOs, recommending that you not be allowed to post offers here at all, using this account or any other that is identifiable as being associated with you.


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    • Profile picture of the author njs10
      Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

      Don't bother. I've pointed this out to the gentleman who approves WSOs, recommending that you not be allowed to post offers here at all, using this account or any other that is identifiable as being associated with you.


      Paul
      On the basis of what, a theoretical question?

      So every single WSO available is based on completely new theory or technique the writer has developed?


      Right where's that pdf for making an atom bomb from Lego gone I downloaded. Best call the CIA hotline.
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  • Profile picture of the author njs10
    Personally I wasn't suggesting simply rewriting the WSO.

    What I meant was at what point is it plagiarism. Obviously 99% of the WSO s seem to be pretty much a rehash or reworking of other techniques already available. Very rarely are they groundbreaking.

    Just because someone releases a WSO on a topic they have a patent on it.

    I'm suggesting reworking an idea with better text, more in depth detail on how to make it work, better screen grabs and adding things i believe add to it.
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    BOOM, baby!
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
    If you weren't planning on creating a derivative work, you wouldn't be asking this. Unless you're either trolling or trying to make a point.

    If it's the latter, you'd have been better off just coming out with it.
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    • Profile picture of the author njs10
      Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

      If you weren't planning on creating a derivative work, you wouldn't be asking this. Unless you're either trolling or trying to make a point.

      If it's the latter, you'd have been better off just coming out with it.
      I was enquiring pretty much as to the level of copyright one has over a document such as this.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
        100%.

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        Originally Posted by njs10 View Post

        I was enquiring pretty much as to the level of copyright one has over a document such as this.
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      • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
        On the basis of what, a theoretical question?
        It is only theoretical until you try and post an offer, at which point this question becomes a consideration.
        I was enquiring pretty much as to the level of copyright one has over a document such as this.
        You have stated your intent to create and sell a derivative work, which is a different thing from creating an original product which has a topic in common with another offering.

        We are not required to approve any offer. I have recommended that we exercise the option of refusal in your case.


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  • Profile picture of the author RobinInTexas
    I guess it comes down to asking the author of the original WSO if they
    1. Have any objection
      or
    2. Would like to do a JV with you.
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  • Profile picture of the author njs10
    I've simply asked a question, again I reiterate it may of been misinterpreted but ultimately I was questioning the copyright level one has on a document such as this. No need for what was a pretty over the top reaction, but that's clearly your right, however obviously unfounded it was.
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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
      if I wanted to create a new WSO, based around one I've previously downloaded
      I believe this section of your original post justifies my interpretation.
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      • Profile picture of the author njs10
        Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

        I believe this section of your original post justifies my interpretation.
        As it states, based around. Ie the same topic.

        So if there is a WSO which exists about "ranking high in Google" for instance, or " make money on eBay", then no one else could offer a product for this or use fundamentally the same techniques?

        Now i understand the process of 100% originality, the patent process for a pdf, and the Orwellean process of submission, I can fully appreciate why 0.01% of SEOs have any intrinsic value
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        • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
          As it states, based around. Ie the same topic.
          Those are different things, as I suspect you well know.

          No-one has an exclusive on any topic here, or in any other marketplace with which I'm familiar. That said, derivative works are a different issue. Your post, as worded, raises sufficient questions to justify refusing offers from you.
          the patent process for a pdf
          The Portable Document Format is patented (and a public patent license has been issued for it by Adobe), but individual documents created in it are copyrighted, not patented.


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        • Profile picture of the author Kay King
          Why not just read up on copyright and how it works and what 'derivative copy' is - instead of arguing yourself into a corner? You are changing your argument as you post and it's not a good way to proceed.

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  • Profile picture of the author actionplanbiz
    its not plagiarism, just probably more crap that will confuse people starting out in internet marketing.

    if you can make it better, it would be more preferable for our community.
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  • Profile picture of the author njs10
    Simply asked a constructive comment which would of been to the benefit of other forum users, didn't really necessitate this diatribe, but thanks for your valued contribution nonetheless.
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