Is Internet Marketing Dead?

Ah no, you're too late. It died last year.

First of all, welcome back to IM and it's good to see you want to have another go at it. Succeeding is about trial and error so when you find that sweet spot you'll be glad you took the plunge again!

Secondly, why on earth would you not want to rat this guy out? After being scammed out of $1,700 (or whatever the amount from that particular seller) i'd personally do everything in my power to warn others from making the same mistake!

What do you really mean by being scammed out of $1,700?

Does this mean that you paid for something that you didn't receive? Or did you quit too soon before making any money?

You can buy into any program but before you will be able to make money with it, you will need to learn how to market and promote it properly.

There are some great programs and systems out there today however I keep seeing the same thing happening over and over.

People get into and opportunity and then find out that it will take some work (on there part) and get out as fast as they get in.

It doesn't matter how good a system really is, if you don't follow the instructions on the box, you will not succeed.

Oh,

And what a place to be asking this question. This forum is based on internet marketing.

No it's not dead!

But also don't go spending $1,700 on paying some 'so-called' guru to teach you how to make money when chances are the only way they're making money is by charging people $1,700 to teach people to make money

There's plenty of free stuff here on the WF. Spend the $50 (ish) to gain access to the War Room and you'll gain access to THOUSANDS of useful guides/products that are often WSOs and paid products.

If you take anything away from this thread, it's Become a War Room Member!

Everything is dead, it is IMPOSSIBLE to make money online anymore, move on.

Just kidding, IM is very much alive, the only thing that has changed are some marketing techniques. That's all.

Welcome back and wish you success this time.

In this IM everyone has been scammed and lost time or money. Without mistakes we can't learn. Even after we have learned again there is chance to be scammed. But yours was really lot at the very beginning. But believe me there are a lot more people that have spent a lot more than the amount you have spent. The only difference some of them have got the patience to continue in this industry. First of all you should understand how this IM works at all then you will know which one to purchase which not.
Before you pay for something make a research, search for reviews from other experienced people in order to make the level of being scammed at the lowest stage.

IM works, but only 2-3% succeed. This is because the rest doesn't have the patience to wait and gives up or only want things to get fast results or earn fast and become rich. This is the reason why most don't succeed and a few succeed. This is the reason why I told you to first understand the main logic of IM and how it works, then ask yourself the question can you be in this 2-3%.

I've also PM you.

Congratulations for your second life with IM. Now don't spend anything and learn first. Spend only when needed. IM is alive and getting stronger and stronger.

The key to not get scammed is research, research, research... and you are in the best hands here on the WF!

So many people here have been stung in the past. My advice would be have a search of the forum and see what people are seeing success with. If you do find something that looks interesting ask for peoples experience - That said you will always find someone with a negative experience of any business - so gauge the responses and take some with a pinch of salt!!

Good luck in your endeavours - Hope you prosper in 2014

The Warrior Forum.

Where non-tangible things are accused of dying every few weeks or so...

I'm sorry that you were scammed.

Glad that you were able to bounce back.

In terms of things having changed, well, things have definitely changed in certain areas (SEO for example), but it's still alive and well.

If it were dead, you would not be here.
All the best. Regards.

Not dead!

Just the rules have changed a lot ~ or maybe just my thinking...

For most it was never "alive". They're just getting better at figuring that out, which is great. They almost ruined it for the rest of us.

Internet marketing will never die.

Why would you say that? You probably think that it is very saturated which it is not because THOUSANDS of people who are new to the internet go online EACH day and looking for some sort of a home based business.

If you learn how to do things right, you will succeed.

2008 2009 I started and bought into a lot of 47,70, 100 dollar programs that didn't really teach much and made the marketer a lot of money. I feel they were scammy products and then I didn't know any better. Been out of IM until July of 2013. I have learned more in the past few months by buying some low cost WSO's from reputable marketers who know what they are talking about than I learned from those products back then.

Is I.M. DEAD?

Just have a look around and you'll soon see that it's still very much alive
and kicking.

It can stay alive for as long as you want it to by building a list and building
long lasting relationships with that list.

Once you have someone on your email list it's then down to that marketer
to build up trust by giving value first, then having a repeat back end sales
system in place that allows their subscribers to grow, learn and get results.

Of course if you don't have a line of products of your own you can always
start out as an affiliate.

You'll be able to get yourself on the first rung of the ladder so to speak and
gain some experience.

But I always tell my readers that they're always going to be miles better off
in the future by creating their own products and services.

You get to keep all of the profits, build your buyers list and of course build
an army of affiliates along the way too.

So my advice would be to build your own list first and learn how to build
an effective sales funnel that allows your business to grow as you add more
leads into your funnel.

Regards
Gavin

That should not be happening when you spend that kind of money. Stay away from the "internet marketing" gurus in the future. You could have gotten consultation from actual pros if you had emailed and asked.

I am in a similar situation and not really started even though I have tired a number of times over the years. I have NOT spent that type of money as the this thread suggests I have over the years done lots and lots of reading a research but 2014 is THE year to make it happen! Wishing you lots of luck!

the wf threads here are priceless, worth more than any 1997 or whatever priced item, if i had a family member just getting into im i'd have them spend a week reading through the WF for the world's best IM education.

as far as gurus go, it's best to simply Watch How they do it and copy their business models, after careful study. watch learn and copy.. maybe look up youtube videos from many gurus to see their content, their 4-video sequences; it's very challenging and no single course is enough anyways, just watch and learn, then apply

We are in 2014, and I can comfirm you internet marketing is NOT dead.......

Hi,

Sorry to hear you got scammed...but at least you learned a lesson.

IM is certainly not dead...its probably a whole lot more competitive than it was a few years ago, but certainly not dead.

It depends on how you approach it.. Look at different forums & find out what problems people are experiencing...then build your product around solving those problems..

Also, don't neglect other non-IM niches as there are still loads of low competition niches topics where you can make money. I actually started out in the Decoupage niche 5 years ago and made a killing!

Az

Still alive and well. Depending on what side of IM you're in it has changed but the overall concept is still very much the same. Build a list, market to it. As far as Google/SEO goes, lots has changed

In my opinion, the key is to learn (there is tons of great info on this forum, both free and from some quality WSOs) and then to take action. Make a real plan and stick to it.

Too often, people give up quickly when the realize that there isn't a "magic button" and that most solid methods do in fact take time and effort.

IM is far from dead. New methods, new opportunities, and new income sources appear all the time. I'm not saying you should go with the latest shiny object, I'm saying that IM is constantly growing... not dying.

Basically, it is dead.

Is internet marketing dead? ..... i still dont know what that means.

Ummm never. This is like asking is google or yahoo dead. The world wide web everyday brings millions of new people, new ideas, new searches, etc;;. think of everything as longevity.

Commerce and communication on the internet is here to stay. It will be part of the human experience from here on out. That said, the landscape is constantly changing.

I guess that's why I'm so excited and enthused by the IM field!

Try focusing on getting your website to the top of the search engines where all the buyers are. Mass marketing doesn't work 99% of the time.

No internet marketing is not "dead" in fact it is far from "dead"

You have just gone through many challenges along the way, and you got discouraged.

However! You should just use those obstacles as lessons learned and keep moving forward.

The only thing that is dead about internet marketing is your mindset on it.

I personally recommend to learn on a few skills and be actionable upon it each and every day.

Remember: No Action, No Results!

Good luck

No, IM not dead

I feel I got lucky and found a mentor I can trust. I feel my failures in the past were my own doing. Procrastination, battling personal problems, etc. Yes the course I signed up for was a bit pricey, but I feel this is my last shot at trying to make money online so I took the plunge. So far, some methods are unique while others are standard fare. The difference is my teacher is kind, patient and says that she will offer help and guidance for as long as I ask for it. She actually said forever. I believe it. The rest is up to me. Good Luck and stay focused.

You are too late, it died last year, lol just kidding.

There are so many "is XYZ dead threads". The reason for most of these are that they here it from marketers selling something on the pretext that such and such is dead.

Here are just a handful.

http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...imization.html
http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ding-dead.html
http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ting-dead.html
http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ally-dead.html
http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...king-dead.html
http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ding-dead.html
http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...dagg-dead.html
http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...orum-dead.html
http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...-opt-dead.html
http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ess-again.html
http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ting-dead.html
http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ancy-dead.html
http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...live-dead.html
http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ting-dead.html
http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...think-not.html
http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...fbml-dead.html
http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ging-dead.html
http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...bank-dead.html
http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...tion-dead.html
http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...live-then.html
http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ad-2013-a.html
http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...tick-dead.html


These are only from 1 page, there are 7 pages of dead threads.

I would title this "The More Things Change The More They Stay The Same". As much as everyone want to talk about how everything has changed, google, social media, video etc. etc. the truth is the basics are still the same. Do some research, find a niche with lots of buyers, get your message in front of them. It really is that simple, and at the same time that complicated. But really keep the basic business premise of trying to fill the needs for someone and you will do fine.

As long as you can connect to internet. I would say, IM never died but the method that working may change

It's not dead. But It is very hard to make money for newbies. I tried a lot of methods but nothing works out that's why I decided to join some freelance websites so that I can use my skills to earn money online.

IM as well as SEO is not dead but with the continuous growth of internet there will be some changes that we need to adapt, but for some people these changes are equivalent to being dead/gone haha

The reason it's dead for some people is they GIVE up...Even when they fail or if their scammed..Just get back up and keep at it..

Start small... "Affiliate Marketing" Essentials"

1.) Domain name (.com) shouldn't cost you more than $10 (for a year!)
2.) Hosting starts at $3.96 mth or round up to maybe$60 (for a year!)
3.) WordPress -Tons of FREE Themes
4.) WP Plugins (essentials all FREE)
5.) Social Media Profiles (FREE)
6.) Web 2.0 Properties (FREE)
7.) Graphics, Photo's, even Videos (FREE)
8.) Affiliate Networks (*FREE to join)
9.) Marketing Materials&Training - Warrior Forum & Your Affiliate Networks (FREE)
10.) FREE Rebrandable Reports (Again Good Vendors Provide FREE)
11.) More How to's than You Can Count - YouTube (FREE)
12.) Content (DIY - FREE) or Outsource Cheap (*PLR, Fivver, WFH)
13.) eBook Covers - Banner Creation - Graphic (*FREE - Search Google)
14.) RSS Feedburner (FREE)
15.) Learn Basic HTML - W3Schools (FREE)
16.) FTP Client - FileZilla (FREE)
17.) HTML Editor - KompoZer (FREE)
18.) Keyword/Market Research G planner.Traffic Travis. Market Samurai -(FREE)
19.) Blogger, Webs, weebly, eZine Articles, Hub Pages, Squidoo (*FREE)
20.) Autoresponder - (FREE) but recommend spending $15mth = $180 per year
21.) Warrior Forum (FREE) *Recommend War Room for FREE Perks = $37
22.) Multiple Video Creation Tools (FREE)

I could go on, and on... You don't need to spend tons of money.

- Research, find a Niche
- Buy a Domain (.com)
- Cheap Hosting Plan
- Autoresponder (*Optional $180 year to start = holds up to 1,000 subscribers) <- gotta get these yourself
- Build A WordPress Site, Blog, or do Reviews
- Provide Quality (Targeted) Content
- Promote Solutions (*using FREE Products) *Earn Commissions
- Use FREE & Inexpensive Traffic resources (for now)
- Watch, Study the pro's - emulate their success, never steal & barely borrow

Initial Investment = $70.00 per year/$5.83 per week/$0.19 pennies per day!
(*Without an autoresponder or War Room membership)

All you need Total (w/ auto & War Room) Total = $287.00 per year/$23.91 mth / $0.79 pennies per day!

-Find a good Affiliate network below sign up FREE... *10 shopping malls of products & services you can promote & earn commissions from, and many will have training, marketing materials, brandable eBooks or reports to build a targeted list...

• Clickbank.com
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• MarketHealth.com
• JVZoo.com
• CJ.com

Now... all you need to do, is take a deep breath and go get that $1700 back 10 fold, for nearly 10% of what it cost you... to learn what not to do!


Welcome Back!

Everything is dead apparently. If my memory serves me correctly SEO has died several times already.

Yeah, it's DEAD. There are 10s of Thousands of people here who are all wasting their time. I mean, didn't cha hear?? We're all reverting back to the PHONE BOOK!

Kidding aside, sorry you got scammed. Sucks but it happens. Doesn't mean Internet marketing is dead though.

It's alive and well though sometimes things CHANGE, like new methods, platforms and such. Same can be said about methods, platforms and what not, going out of style, too.

Keep abreast of what methods are being used with success and you'll find IM is alive and well.

Don't keep up with what's working and well, yes, IM would be dead TO YOU... because your METHOD is dead.

As an example, way back in 1997 when I was "a baby marketer" it was sort of a "thing" to use FFA link pages. Any old timers remember those?

If I were doing that today, I'd be, well... DEAD.

And then there's the "time tested" methods that have withstood the test of time and were used in 1997 and are still being used today... solo ads being an example of such a method.

I quoted this part of your message because I implore you to examine those and look for scale ability. Success seldom happens by chance so look at those wins and ask yourself how to do it again, and with more frequency.

I would say it is dead, rather rules of the game keep changing constantly...

Well I made $9,100 last month from all my online ventures so its definitely not dead.

About $2,000 of that was from Clickbank then about $7000 from my local sites.


The real problem is IM just requires a very unique blend of different skillsets. Its like learning a trade. And many IM'rs come into this field thinking about making money. When the last thing on your mind should be money.

What should be on your mind is "how can I learn all those skillsets"?

Some of those basic skillsets include:

Copywriting / conversion optimization
Web design / basic coding / how to outsource real technical stuff
How to do extensive keyword research and find niches
How to monetize your properties
How to rank and get traffic
Various other forums of traffic generation

And I'll tell you for a fact, 90% of what you "learn" will be from real world experience. Not reading. Reading is good, but I'd guess it accounts for roughly 10-20% of entire the learning process. The other 80-90% being application. You have to take action. You have to test. And you need the ability to view this as a science. Don't take failure personal. Its just a part of learning the science. It took Thomas Edison 1,000 times just to get the lightbulb right. So don't expect money. Expect to take action and actually enjoy learning from all your tests. If you don't enjoy marketing. If you don't genuinely enjoy it, I don't think you'll ever make money.

People are still making money online I have found a great way to make money online with out having to get traffic or leads or recruit! Even thought the option is in place the great thing is YOU DON"T HAVE to in order to make money.

i read somewhere 90% of new billionaire make money from net

If people die then then the internet marketing would also die.