warrior forum solo ads vs safe swaps which one is better and price wise

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Hi. I am thinking about joining safe swaps due to the fact that I've seen people selling solo ads very cheap like for example $12 dollars for 50 clicks plus 20% over delivery

I read the reviews and that are excellent with alot of stats on them. They have great reviews as a seller . buyer and swap.

I also see he has fresh list of subscribers added daily in the im niche.

I also see the same reviews here from tier 1, proven buyers reviews with lots of great stats by at a much higher price

Should i pay the $30 per month safe swap fee to join them

I notice i can't send a message as a guest unless i purchased 1 solo ad from a prime member, but i am not sure if it worth upgrading if i am just going to be buying a few solo ads, the cheapest because i can't afford 50 dollars every single day, maybe $12 for one day 5 days later another $12 or $20 just to get my feet wet and see if my sales funnel converts.

Anyways let me know what you guys think. I see so many great reviews but i guess those are experience internet marketers that build their own sales funnel or payed someone to do it for them.

I don't even know how to buy one, or what to look for besides reviews and tier 1 traffic
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  • Profile picture of the author Matthew Trujillo
    Price wise varies by seller not where the offer is. Always look for reviews prior buying and always start low. Solo ads you must be careful w/ many get in the solo ad industry to make a quick buck than run off with your money. Always test out which ones convert and which ones don't and be sure to watch out for any red flags.
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  • Profile picture of the author Geoff101
    The game is for the conversions. See what converts for you and start with a test.
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    • Profile picture of the author raywarrior1978
      Should i buy solos from people who build their list from ad swaping?

      I saw this youtube video and now i am scare to buy solos because i see how people are building their list

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      • Profile picture of the author benjamenjuan
        You have to realize the type of traffic there. Just like that guy was saying in the video, many of the people on the lists are just going from one list to another, opting in to everything to get stuff for free. They probably get double digit emails everyday and it's probably not even their primary email.

        Having said that, when I use safe swaps, I look for the sellers that have 100% positive reviews, and multiple people have commented satin they get sales from the ad. I only buy from those sellers, they are few and far between but they are there. I have made quite a few sales, even recurring subscription customers from safe swaps.

        So be picky about your vendors and look other places for solo ads as well. You might want to set up some ppc campaigns bc you can get cheaper clicks. Think about all kinds I traffic and the price and what KIND of traffic you want. Traffic from different sources are indeed different.
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        • Profile picture of the author heavysm
          Use Facebook groups to buy solos and do swaps. They're pretty good about weeding about people who try to scam others, word tends to spread pretty quickly, typically within a few hours of a scammer pulling his crap (or her, it happens).

          The problem with safe swaps is that the reviews are the vaguest on the internet.

          "Good swap" "Will definitely work with again" etc etc

          But what does that say about tier 1 traffic, how well it converted, if they got any sales etc ?? These are the true details of quality solo ads and it's simply lacking on safe-swaps.

          I personally don't use safe swaps because though it has a very strong tracking system in place in case you experience a crap solo seller the solos are typically 40 - 70 % tier 1 traffic.

          I shoot for 80+ if not 90+ just because those are the buyers. I'm not just talking out of theory either, I've done big traffic purchases and those 6 countries: US, Canada, New Zealand, UK, Ireland, and Australia simply buy more than the other countries.

          As soon as i see 50 - 70 % tier 1 traffic my expectations for a click order drop to the floor.

          I will say, however, that those WF classified ads for solos tend to be decent solo'ers. They put time and effort into putting a sales page together (with nice graphics too, lets me know they're serious about getting buyer & delivering traffic) otherwise i don't buy. That may seem like a trivial point, but I'm serious lol

          Presentation affects how others perceive you, and its very true in this industry.
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      • Profile picture of the author bradley525
        I also saw this video and at first I was super skeptical about trying safe swaps, but I said what the hey keep the price down and see what happens. I am still new to solo's but with 4 under my belt and the sellers high quality so far so good over delivered on each campaign. So start small and research the seller you should be fine.

        hope this helps.
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    • Profile picture of the author raywarrior1978
      wow I didn't know solo ads were sold on facebook.

      How do i find them? do i just type on the search bar solo ads?

      can you see the reviews on there and are they very specific reviews?

      How do you purchased them on fb, paypal?
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      • Profile picture of the author heavysm
        Originally Posted by raywarrior1978 View Post

        wow I didn't know solo ads were sold on facebook.

        How do i find them? do i just type on the search bar solo ads?

        can you see the reviews on there and are they very specific reviews?

        How do you purchased them on fb, paypal?
        That's why i like them more: detailed reviews. You have to be accepted into individual groups.

        Each marketer links to their own sales page, or else you just friend them and they give you a paypal link (even some good solo'ers don't have their own personal solo sales page - sometimes no need when they get referred sales so much).

        Crappy solos don't last long on FB though. Word travels like wildfire. Scammers be warned!
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      • Profile picture of the author actionplanbiz
        Originally Posted by raywarrior1978 View Post

        wow I didn't know solo ads were sold on facebook.

        How do i find them? do i just type on the search bar solo ads?

        can you see the reviews on there and are they very specific reviews?

        How do you purchased them on fb, paypal?
        join "solo ad testimonials" group (i think thats what its called) people will post their results on this group advertising the solo ad seller. you can do your shopping this way or post what your looking for and your requirements. such as testimonials and price
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  • Profile picture of the author David Braybrooke
    Safe Swaps takes a bit of know-how to master I think. You should have a fairly decent sized and quality list to start with if possible. You can begin with a small list however you would do well to have a really good free offer to promote and a decently worded swipe too.

    It can be surprising how many swap rejections you get to begin with. Also, you need to be very conscious of your reputation on the site. Bad reviews and comments from other sellers can impact on your performance levels. With the right attitude and enough persistence, at least to begin with, you may find that safe swaps works really well for you. Suggestion: try it for a month and decide yourself how valuable the site is for your IM goals.
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  • Profile picture of the author hustlinsmoke
    You can't compare the two. For one most the members that do solos here are safe swap members.

    Two I dislike any place that charges an enormous fee of 30 bucks to trade lists or sell.

    I am just getting disgusted with people holding there hand out wanting to nickle and dime all my friends. My goal now is to create sites that make very little profit while helping those that help me.

    You can find those same deals on skype rooms, facebook groups and here you just have to be ready for them. And 12 bucks, I bet you won't sell one funnel offer if you buy ten of those.
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    • Profile picture of the author heavysm
      Originally Posted by hustlinsmoke View Post

      You can't compare the two. For one most the members that do solos here are safe swap members.

      Two I dislike any place that charges an enormous fee of 30 bucks to trade lists or sell.

      I am just getting disgusted with people holding there hand out wanting to nickle and dime all my friends. My goal now is to create sites that make very little profit while helping those that help me.

      You can find those same deals on skype rooms, facebook groups and here you just have to be ready for them. And 12 bucks, I bet you won't sell one funnel offer if you buy ten of those.
      Yep yep yep, I too agree about safe-swaps and their $30/monthly fee.

      That's why i like facebook a lot because people can post reviews pretty easily. The second to lowest group are most skype groups for solos. It's just bananas in there for like 80+% of the groups, fraudsters and scammers everywhere.

      Yet another reason why facebook is ideal because it's social; people spread work about a problematic solo'er or swapping the same day if not within hours of the thing happening.

      I've also made some crazy good connections with marketers via FB.

      Skype used to be my business disneyland but now FB takes that title lol
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  • Profile picture of the author cagwatson
    you need to realize that the cost per click you pay isn't always indicative of the quality. People get suckered too much by this. I'm talking from experience, I've spent countless $ on Solos in the past 6 months ...and i sell them too.

    You get people giving lower cost clicks to build rep and at the other end people charging way higher cpc just because they can or want to.

    AND where people swap to build their list doesn't always mean that the list they use for solos is the one their swapping with. A lot of us email marketers have multiple lists, segmented into various groups and also a fe ARs.

    You can easily swap away with one list/segment whilst funneling people into other lists etc etc

    Also, buying from people on Safe Swaps, Warrior Forum, Skype or wherever also doesn't determine the quality and ROI. Yes these are great resources but you need to spend some time to go through testimonials, get feedback, ask questions and network ..over time you will build up good resources and fend off the sharks


    But also consider the amount of variables you will have to live with when buying/testing (seller integrity, list quality, cpc, broadcast times, ad copy, squeeze pages, funnel config, bandwidth etc etc)

    ..and nowadays throwing 100 solo clicks at a funnel isn't going to set the world alight, you need to invest more in clicks, tweaking and testing and build up your funnel(s)..

    the solo ad business isn't what it used to be, there are plenty of great providers our there, YOU just need to be extra diligent or you risk being burnt!

    also, if you're no on Skype then id advise you get involved there as you can easily chat to host of buyers/sellers with great rep and easily get the scoop on who/s hot/not and what to avoid etc.

    i've got som' good resources in my sign as well (shameless plug i know )
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    • Profile picture of the author raywarrior1978
      do you have any you recommend? also i am trying to promote instant payday network, do you think that this will work with solo ads?
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  • Profile picture of the author talfighel
    Solo ads still work very well but yes, your new subscribers are on other lists too.

    If you want to get the best traffic, I would go with pay per click. Doing this will get you much higher conversions and a lot of people who come from pay per click places like Google and Yahoo are not on anyone's list yet. They are fresh.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeff Casmer
    Hello,

    I built my large list the old fashion way by myself...LOL

    No ad swaps etc......I always worry that people can be on too may lists and that makes those subscribers less attentive and more importantly easily distracted by other offers or lists. I am not foolish to believe even if I get them myself through my own websites and pages that they could be on 23 other lists as well.......however I just feel that if you target them yourself.....your bring more value..

    Best wishes!
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  • Profile picture of the author infite
    I bought few solos at Safe-Swaps with great results. I really like their in-house tracker that filters out proxy clicks and all other junk.

    Recently they introduced new filter which shows user's connection type (home user, mobile user or a web server sending you fake clicks).

    On facebook it is too easy to cheat. Scam just creates 5 accounts and posts fake positive reviews. When people catch him, he just creates 5 new accounts.

    P.S.: safe-swap is free for buyers, like me!
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  • Profile picture of the author infite
    here is a good post on their forum I found useful:
    Wild market vs. Safe-Swaps | Ad swaps forum at Safe-Swaps
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    Safe-swaps is cool. You just have to be very selective about who you do business with... as with anything else in the business world. Things wont come easy to you... if you're willing to do 5% of work on your website/business.... you'll be farther ahead than paying everybody on safe-swaps just to build up your list.
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  • Profile picture of the author AdamPayne
    Another option is to launch a free WSO. Costs you $40.

    More work involved as you have to provide something of value but it'll help you build your reputation on here.

    And I am sure you'll get some leads too.
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  • Profile picture of the author depotgang
    Understand what you are getting. I love safe swaps and I play in their comminity....Everyone has the same list after all...think about it

    You want to get solo from people that dont USE SOLO ADS to build their list THEY SELL SOLO ads with...LOL

    check out solomaximizer.com .... all the traffic comes from CPA offers...newbies and buyers...NOT FREE good seekers.
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  • Profile picture of the author chrisrhea
    Thanks everyone for this great information I am new to this and so will definitely be checking out Facebook for solo add testimonials.
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    • Profile picture of the author johngreenishere
      Hi, thanks for valueable info. I just want to know if some of you know who is solo provider that not build his/her list from solo ads? Any hint's to know?
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