[PLAN] I want to launch 100 Amazon sites - would like to hear some opinions!

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The plan is like this:

I have a list of 100 "best ...." keywords perfectly suitable for Amazon, cause of the site approach it will probably be a churn & burn method, although not sure.

My classification of churn & burn: A site that lasts shorter then 6 months.

Somehow I have a feeling these sites would last about 6 months.


About the websites

It will be real basic sites:

- 7 product reviews
- 1 comparison page
- 1 category optimized for the ".... reviews" variant
- 1 best page that features the 7 products in short
- 1 contact page
- 1 about page
- 1 terms of service page
- 1 disclaimer page

So 14 pages in total.

Only 3 pages will be monetized:

- the best list, static homepage
- the category page
- the comparison page

The 7 product reviews will link to the comparison and best page.

The best page will get most of the traffic anyway and I found out those convert awesomely well so all link juice is funnelled that way.

Total costs $65,-

- $10/domain
- 7 review articles $35
- best page (1000 words) $10
- comparison page, 100 words intro content and script so $1
- category, 500 words content added $5
- contact / about page few 100 words so let's say $4

You could classify this as a micro niche site but cause of the "smart" format it will probably be able to survive Panda updates (not 100% sure though). My 25-40 page sites fare well btw, which are somewhat similar in setup.


About the link building

I am not too sure about this so would like to hear some opinions from others.

The thing is that to keep lasting rankings a site needs permanent link juice (pagerank), in other words preferably perm homepage links from high PR domains.

However if this turns out into a churn & burn festival then it makes no sense to place perm homepage links as it would only be a waste of resources, sure I own the network so it's never a waste as I can always remove/replace but anyway.

The second option would be too setup a separate low budget network for this project of let's say 100 sites, and use tools like RankWyz to build links in a spun way. I think this still works to a certain degree, just a lower chance to last.

The money sites itself will all be based on the same theme to keep it easy for VA's and such and obvious I don't feel much to spam my whole network, linking out to 100 and the same sites, probably leaves huge footprints, especially cause the money sites will be hosted on a fixed number of IP's.

I'm determined to complete this project so comments like build an authority site are somewhat useless in this thread so stick to the topic please.


Questions:

- What link building approach would you use?

- How long do you think those sites will last based on either perm homepage links or with a low budget spun network?

- Any other things that might be helpful to start of this project?


Income predictions:

Not unimportant, I expect the sites to bring in $100/month at the very least per site, this is based on previous experience. So with 100 sites we're talking about $10k+/month, when using the spun network the costs remain extreme low, as in about $100/site so money back in the first month, however no idea how that will end.

With the perm homepage links strategy it go's like this, perm PR3 homepage link (20 OBL), purchase price $50 per domain (dropped), 100 words of content = $50/15+ $1,30 = $5,-, mostly I push 30 perm links and 30 roll off posts so that comes down to about $250,- total (site content included). Talking about $25.000,- investment here.

With the tiered network approach I would probably spend about $5000,- on domains + $10.000,- on the site building, so $15k/total. However I expect the rankings to come out lower then with the other approach.

Useful thoughts are more then welcome!

100 sites is the plan and so it shall be done
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Looks like a rehashed 2009 MFA WSO.
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      Looks like a rehashed 2009 MFA WSO.
      Yep, rehashed to last at least for a while in 2014!

      Not that much changed over the years:

      - relevancy counts more these days, as well as site structure so that's being taken care of

      - high PR links, whether from relevant sites or not, still works as a charm, always has

      - over monetizing for brand new sites is being taken care of by the Panda filter so got that covered

      - uniqueness of site seems to matter, that's what the category, best, comparison pages are for to prevent being flagged automatically as some content farm site (this is a bit theoretical but well).
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

        Yep, rehashed to last at least for a while in 2014!
        Your out of your tree If you spend $15,000 on that mess.

        Matt C. will personally slap those MFA sites 200 pages deep in Google SERPs just to keep you interested enough to spend another $15,000 to dig them out of the hole, only to end up deindexed.
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        • Profile picture of the author nik0
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          Originally Posted by yukon View Post

          Your out of your tree If you spend $15,000 on that mess.

          Matt C. will personally slap those MFA sites 200 pages deep in Google SERPs just to keep you interested enough to spend another $15,000 to dig them out of the hole.
          It will last long enough to recoup the investment and probably double or triple it.

          Interested enough to dig them out of the hole, Tjing Lo?
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            Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

            It will last long enough to recoup the investment and probably double or triple it.
            Yep, I agree with you. I believe you would be able to make your money back. Some sites would be sent to oblivion, while some might be loved by Google..... Please do it and report back to us.
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    Oh, and mafia style link laundering still works.
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  • Profile picture of the author derekwong28
    I would agree with Yukon that this is yesteryear's stuff. But obviously, you have access to cheap and high quality resources in Thailand which most people do not have. I would consider giving a try with a few sites and move on if it doesn't work.
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Originally Posted by derekwong28 View Post

      I would agree with Yukon that this is yesteryear's stuff. But obviously, you have access to cheap and high quality resources in Thailand which most people do not have. I would consider giving a try with a few sites and move on if it doesn't work.
      I don't think Thailand has much to do with it, everyone can hire VA's from overseas.

      I do have the benefit of having my own network of course so that way I can keep the costs low, but again something everyone can do, just easier for me to run a test batch of 5-10 sites without having to invest in a network first.

      As we speak I'm back linking 20 Amazon sites right now that I had sitting / eating dust. Those are build based on a working concept and 30-40 page large. I know that size does matter so very curious how it will work out with those smaller sites.
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    • Profile picture of the author fearlesspioneer
      Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

      There are much easier / faster ways to rank a site then spending a ton of effort and money on links to be placed on PR n/a pages like Docstoc, Web2.0 blogs, Wiki's and alike.
      I think you should read that article completely before posting. The most important technique of the strategy is to use an expired domain to "trade" for a powerful backlink in the niche. Is that fast and easy enough?
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      • Profile picture of the author nik0
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        Originally Posted by fearlesspioneer View Post

        I think you should read that article completely before posting. The most important technique of the strategy is to use an expired domain to "trade" for a powerful backlink in the niche. Is that fast and easy enough?
        Yeah I read about that expired domain trade a 1000 times already.

        It's the only important technique from that post, not the most....

        And it's just a part of this strategy so I stand by my point that the whole thing is as inefficient as possible.

        Back then when I was a complete noob I read those blogs like NichePursuits, AdsenseFlippers and the like, the world moves on though. If you want to read more interesting stuff I recommend backlinko and quicksprout. They really know what they're doing.
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        • Profile picture of the author larryboy03
          Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

          Yeah I read about that expired domain trade a 1000 times already.

          It's the only important technique from that post, not the most....

          And it's just a part of this strategy so I stand by my point that the whole thing is as inefficient as possible.

          Back then when I was a complete noob I read those blogs like NichePursuits, AdsenseFlippers and the like, the world moves on though. If you want to read more interesting stuff I recommend backlinko and quicksprout. They really know what they're doing.
          For keyword research, are you targeting keywords with "product review" or best "product".
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          • Profile picture of the author nik0
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            Originally Posted by larryboy03 View Post

            For keyword research, are you targeting keywords with "product review" or best "product".
            Both indeed, they are relatively low competition and good search volume.
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            • Profile picture of the author larryboy03
              Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

              Both indeed, they are relatively low competition and good search volume.
              That's exactly what I do, works well
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        • Profile picture of the author fearlesspioneer
          Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

          Yeah I read about that expired domain trade a 1000 times already.

          It's the only important technique from that post, not the most....

          And it's just a part of this strategy so I stand by my point that the whole thing is as inefficient as possible.

          Back then when I was a complete noob I read those blogs like NichePursuits, AdsenseFlippers and the like, the world moves on though. If you want to read more interesting stuff I recommend backlinko and quicksprout. They really know what they're doing.
          But you are building niche websites. Then NichePursuits is suitable for your websites. If you were building authority sites, I would never say anything about NichePursuits. Backlinko? What did Brian Dean say? He said never built any niche websites, only built authority websites.
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          • Profile picture of the author nik0
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            Originally Posted by fearlesspioneer View Post

            But you are building niche websites. Then NichePursuits is suitable for your websites. If you were building authority sites, I would never say anything about NichePursuits. Backlinko? What did Brian Dean say? He said never built any niche websites, only built authority websites.
            You have a point there but it's not suitable as it's tailored towards the ultimate noob.
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  • Profile picture of the author dtul
    Quite ambitious, but if you think it will work go for it. However, why test it with $15,000 and 100 websites. Why not try like 10 for a month and if that shows promise, then add the other 90. I know you said that you've had lots of success with the larger sites, and these sites probably will perform well also, but you just don't know. If you want to spend $15,000 on it that's fine, but it just seems to be a lot safer option to test with maybe $1500-$2000. Sure you lose $7-8k in lost revenue if it turns out to be a home run, but if it falls on its face you're out $15k.
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Originally Posted by dtul View Post

      Quite ambitious, but if you think it will work go for it. However, why test it with $15,000 and 100 websites. Why not try like 10 for a month and if that shows promise, then add the other 90. I know you said that you've had lots of success with the larger sites, and these sites probably will perform well also, but you just don't know. If you want to spend $15,000 on it that's fine, but it just seems to be a lot safer option to test with maybe $1500-$2000. Sure you lose $7-8k in lost revenue if it turns out to be a home run, but if it falls on its face you're out $15k.
      Naturally I would have to test it with 10 sites first as I don't have a can of writers that I can open to produce 1000 articles over night

      I was just hoping some mass churn & burn guys would jump in and provide some useful tips.
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  • Profile picture of the author online only
    Why wasting your time on hundreds of sites...
    10k+ a month isn't THAT much, even for a churn & burn site.

    Amazon pays pennies unless you go for heavy priced products, but then again, they don't have that much searches.

    I think you can get easily 10k+ from one site, from one niche, from one keyword, from one right affiliate product.

    Here's the cost brake down:

    keyword research: $0 (I'm sure you have enough experience to find out really profitable keywords)
    custom design : $2000 - $3000
    linkable content: $3000
    targeted outreach with VA: ($10 per hour, duration probably 3-4 months)

    Cons:
    Need to invest more money & time.

    Pros:
    Passive income for years, thus better ROI, easily flippable.
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Originally Posted by online only View Post

      Why wasting your time on hundreds of sites...
      10k+ a month isn't THAT much, even for a churn & burn site.
      10k+/month is a very nice additional income


      Originally Posted by online only View Post

      Amazon pays pennies unless you go for heavy priced products, but then again, they don't have that much searches.

      I think you can get easily 10k+ from one site, from one niche, from one keyword, from one right affiliate product.

      Here's the cost brake down:

      keyword research: $0 (I'm sure you have enough experience to find out really profitable keywords)
      custom design : $2000 - $3000
      linkable content: $3000
      targeted outreach with VA: ($10 per hour, duration probably 3-4 months)

      Cons:
      Need to invest more money & time.

      Pros:
      Passive income for years, thus better ROI, easily flippable.
      I've been thinking about an authority type of site with GREAT content, just not easy to pick an interesting enough niche and find writers that can really create linkable content. I feel like it's a huge hit or miss.
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      • Profile picture of the author morg2k2
        Probably this could work, but if i were you i would define a small budget for testing purposes, lets say 5% of the global budget.

        Then test it since you are good at it.

        If it was me, i would follow a different path... i would build an authority website with all those reviews in the same website for the same niche but with 5-10 categories, increased the reviews content quality (you want an authority site right?), would use 2k-3k for designing the website to be quite good.

        Then would use the High PR network to rank the long tail keywords to many of the reviews products.

        For last but not least this would be much more manageable then with 100 websites...

        That would be my draft strategy. Would start probably with 30-50 reviews and scaled it up if the result were good...
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Delos
    Rather than risk failing spactularly on a small mistake or oversight, why not start with 5-10 sites, learn what works and more importantly what doesn't. Once you know what works, scale up to 100. If you start with 100 without a clear road map for anything chances are it will crash and burn without any churning at all.
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Originally Posted by warriordanny View Post

      Rather than risk failing spactularly on a small mistake or oversight, why not start with 5-10 sites, learn what works and more importantly what doesn't. Once you know what works, scale up to 100. If you start with 100 without a clear road map for anything chances are it will crash and burn without any churning at all.
      I already have a good idea of what works and what doesn't.

      As this is quite some operation I would start with 5-10 sites first anyway, organization wise, to get the people to know what to do and how to do it, and once it works it's just a matter of scaling up.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Chicas
    Niko, with over 5k posts you are definitely not a newbie... just wondering why you have that newbie mentality. But if you feel that you are doing the right thing... then go for it. Most people learn via their own mistakes.

    The spamming mentality of just littering the web with cheap sites, cheap backlinks, and cheap email blasts is just played out and people are realizing that it never really worked in the first place.... even though many hyped up WSOs promised that this was the best way to make money. Yeah, right.

    The best advice I can give you is to build 1 business and stick with it - of course it has to be something you love and something that has traction.
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Originally Posted by Listhoven View Post

      Niko, with over 5k posts you are definitely not a newbie... just wondering why you have that newbie mentality. But if you feel that you are doing the right thing... then go for it. Most people learn via their own mistakes.

      The spamming mentality of just littering the web with cheap sites, cheap backlinks, and cheap email blasts is just played out and people are realizing that it never really worked in the first place.... even though many hyped up WSOs promised that this was the best way to make money. Yeah, right.

      The best advice I can give you is to build 1 business and stick with it - of course it has to be something you love and something that has traction.
      Well it does work, just not how it's often teached in WSO's as they're missing some crucial factors. That's the benefit of ranking 100's if not 1000's of sites in the last 1.5 year. It's very easy for me to see what works and what doesn't, and thus easy to avoid such mistakes.

      For me it's only about one thing: A simple working method that can easily be outsourced and scaled. As said, it doesn't have to last forever, 3-6 months is enough to make a good profit.

      It's not said that I won't take the authority site approach either, it's just a business model on it's own and it's all about the ROI.
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      • Profile picture of the author Stuart Walker
        Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

        There are much easier / faster ways to rank a site then spending a ton of effort and money on links to be placed on PR n/a pages like Docstoc, Web2.0 blogs, Wiki's and alike.
        That isn't Spencer's strategy so I think you've misread.

        Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

        Yeah I read about that expired domain trade a 1000 times already.

        It's the only important technique from that post, not the most....

        And it's just a part of this strategy so I stand by my point that the whole thing is as inefficient as possible.

        Back then when I was a complete noob I read those blogs like NichePursuits, AdsenseFlippers and the like, the world moves on though. If you want to read more interesting stuff I recommend backlinko and quicksprout. They really know what they're doing.
        Brian Dean and Neil Patel know their SEO. Brian is genius when it comes to what I like to call 'intelligent' SEO.

        However when it comes to building mini review sites monetized by Amazon then Spencer Haws at Niche Pursuits | Find Business Ideas, Niche Websites, and Much More! is the main to follow - it's one of the main ways he makes his living!

        Tung at Make Money Online With Tung Tran - Cloud Living is also good at it - check his blog out!

        Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

        You have a point there but it's not suitable as it's tailored towards the ultimate noob.
        It's not. It's tailored towards people who want to build, rank and profit from Amazon sites....just like you do.

        Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

        Well it does work, just not how it's often teached in WSO's as they're missing some crucial factors. That's the benefit of ranking 100's if not 1000's of sites in the last 1.5 year. It's very easy for me to see what works and what doesn't, and thus easy to avoid such mistakes.
        So if you KNOW it works and what doesn't work...why are you asking us for a plan and advice?

        If you know already go ahead and do it.

        Might be wise to test on a smaller and cheaper scale first before launching 100 sites to find they flop and you lose all your cash.
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        • Profile picture of the author nik0
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          Originally Posted by Stuart Walker View Post

          That isn't Spencer's strategy so I think you've misread.

          However when it comes to building mini review sites monetized by Amazon then Spencer Haws at Niche Pursuits | Find Business Ideas, Niche Websites, and Much More! is the main to follow - it's one of the main ways he makes his living!

          Tung at Make Money Online With Tung Tran - Cloud Living is also good at it - check his blog out!
          Are you kidding me? Did you even read their strategies, if you can even call it a strategy. They teach the most ineffective way to rank sites.



          Originally Posted by Stuart Walker View Post

          So if you KNOW it works and what doesn't work...why are you asking us for a plan and advice?

          If you know already go ahead and do it.

          Might be wise to test on a smaller and cheaper scale first before launching 100 sites to find they flop and you lose all your cash.
          Obvious I know what works and what doesn't, but that doesn't mean I close my eye's for different approaches and in fact this thread was started to get some responses from churn & burners (instead of being pointed at some noob guides) but it seems they are not very active around here.
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          • Profile picture of the author larryboy03
            Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

            Are you kidding me? Did you even read their strategies, if you can even call it a strategy. They teach the most ineffective way to rank sites.





            Obvious I know what works and what doesn't, but that doesn't mean I close my eye's for different approaches and in fact this thread was started to get some responses from churn & burners (instead of being pointed at some noob guides) but it seems they are not very active around here.
            Let's be honest here, I'm not here to argue at all but Spencer Haws is where he is with his business and life because ranking niche sites and authority sites is what he does, so saying the way he ranks sites is wrong is not true buddy.

            You can use your blog network all you want but when Google shuts you down, what will you do?

            Ranking sites is a very simple process but people like to complicate it with other things. Using blog networks might be effective but is it a reliable way which will keep a website/ Business going for years?

            Why spend hard money on outsourcing work when you plan to have a site for 6 months? It's a waste of money/time and it's a bad model. There is no guarantee you will rank, so that's a risk in it self.

            I think people who are new getting into building niche sites should avoid using blog networks because in my own opinion, you might see success for a while but when Google find you, takes you down, you are back to square one and unhappy and annoyed.

            Some may agree with me and many will disagree but I don't care. I like to build a business model which will last forever, this means building 10-100 websites which will be around forever to make money means I am a very happy person knowing my business and business model is safe and secure from updates.

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            • Profile picture of the author nik0
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              Originally Posted by larryboy03 View Post

              Let's be honest here, I'm not here to argue at all but Spencer Haws is where he is with his business and life because ranking niche sites and authority sites is what he does, so saying the way he ranks sites is wrong is not true buddy.
              No where did I state that what he is doing is wrong or not working. I say it's ineffective with a ton of close to worthless links, that might even trigger a Penguin penalty at some point.


              Originally Posted by larryboy03 View Post

              You can use your blog network all you want but when Google shuts you down, what will you do?
              That chance is very small, my network is much smaller compared to all the busted networks that Google went after in a manual way. My network is also much better spread then all the large busted networks. That's the benefit of being a small fish in the ocean.


              Originally Posted by larryboy03 View Post

              Ranking sites is a very simple process but people like to complicate it with other things. Using blog networks might be effective but is it a reliable way which will keep a website/ Business going for years?

              Why spend hard money on outsourcing work when you plan to have a site for 6 months? It's a waste of money/time and it's a bad model. There is no guarantee you will rank, so that's a risk in it self.
              When using a cheap network in combination with spun content the life time will probably be 6 months or less yes. However when using my current approach I expect those sites to last a lot longer, we've already went through the Penguin refresh and the previous build sites weren't affected.

              Of the 10 sites I just build, they all rank, the 10 sites for a customer all rank, the 2 that were bought both rank, and my own sites rank, so that's already about 25 sites that all rank, no exception of a non ranking sites (besides one that was based on a penalized domain) but that was just a silly mistake, any way we can ignore that risk.


              Originally Posted by larryboy03 View Post

              I think people who are new getting into building niche sites should avoid using blog networks because in my own opinion, you might see success for a while but when Google find you, takes you down, you are back to square one and unhappy and annoyed.

              Some may agree with me and many will disagree but I don't care. I like to build a business model which will last forever, this means building 10-100 websites which will be around forever to make money means I am a very happy person knowing my business and business model is safe and secure from updates.

              Regards
              Larry
              I'm aware this strategy probably won't last forever, however I do think we're good to go for a couple of years to come so it's all about ROI.

              As you can read in my previous post, (posted after you posted btw) you can see that I will follow a more authority type of site for future projects. To educate myself and to build something that will last longer as I do have to admit that I kind of hate building sites and keep on doing this over and over will become very boring and perhaps one day it comes to the point that it isn't repeatable anymore so better learn on forehand yes.

              For a newbie with limited cash it might be better to start more of an authority site as that doesn't have to cost any money besides time.
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    • Profile picture of the author louiem
      I think it's better to build one authority site than build dozens of Amazon affiliate sites that (most likely) have short lifespans. If you are planning the "churn and burn" approach, then I think it's still possible to make a decent profit. That takes a lot more money and effort than building authority sites, though.
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      • Profile picture of the author nik0
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        Originally Posted by louiem View Post

        I think it's better to build one authority site than build dozens of Amazon affiliate sites that (most likely) have short lifespans. If you are planning the "churn and burn" approach, then I think it's still possible to make a decent profit. That takes a lot more money and effort than building authority sites, though.
        Not sure about the money, but yes it does take a lot of effort for sure. Underestimated that part a little bit.

        If I want to pull if of I need to setup a dedicated team for it.
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Originally Posted by dfhsfjf View Post

      Somehow I have a feeling these sites would last about 6 months.
      6 months is more then enough to turn a good profit!
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  • Profile picture of the author bymarcot
    I like the idea. For better results you could use plugin which removes the affiliate links for search engine bots. Use a theme which has high CTR. I have tested and i still think that you can make more money when you drive the visitors asap to Amazon.

    Cheers
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  • Profile picture of the author sweetcrabhoney18
    My advice:

    Some of your 100 sites should link to each other ; I.e similar niches so that you can benefit from a funnel of sites that promote as one and not the 100.

    Don't spend a ton on the graphic elements because most people these days care about facts not pretty pictures. Your comparison chart should be pintrest worthy though.

    Use other affiliate platforms as well as Amazon. Yes Amazon is the way to make niche sites but there are also other ecommerce sites with affiliate programs that provide high commissions and have a ton of products in a given niche. I know one that gives 20% of sales and pays monthly not every 3 months and they have better prices than amazon.

    I mentioned pinterest but also use other social media outlets to increase your links and authority and get more sales over a long term.

    Sending prayers and best wishes your way that your 100 site plan works.

    PS: I'd recommend you keep track of everything and then build a WSO if / when it works .
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Originally Posted by sweetcrabhoney18 View Post

      My advice:

      Some of your 100 sites should link to each other ; I.e similar niches so that you can benefit from a funnel of sites that promote as one and not the 100.

      Don't spend a ton on the graphic elements because most people these days care about facts not pretty pictures. Your comparison chart should be pintrest worthy though.

      Use other affiliate platforms as well as Amazon. Yes Amazon is the way to make niche sites but there are also other ecommerce sites with affiliate programs that provide high commissions and have a ton of products in a given niche. I know one that gives 20% of sales and pays monthly not every 3 months and they have better prices than amazon.

      I mentioned pinterest but also use other social media outlets to increase your links and authority and get more sales over a long term.

      Sending prayers and best wishes your way that your 100 site plan works.

      PS: I'd recommend you keep track of everything and then build a WSO if / when it works .
      10 sites are build right now and the link building started recently.

      Another 20 sites are on the shelf and I lay the finishing touch on them somewhere this week, and then the link building will start for them as well and once it all ranks I'll take a different approach.

      Why I am so confident it works? Cause I already ranked at least 10 very similar sites for a large client of mine, already sold 2 sites based on this concept with an income guarantee, and set up a few sites for myself before, so there is zero guess work involved here. It's all based on experience.

      I could inter link a few relevant sites with each other yes.

      Social media campaigns for each individual site is not really doable at this point as it's just too much and the links are hardly effective and the sites are not of that great quality that I expect them to be shared fanatically.

      Once this project is completed (as in all the 30 sites rank) I will take a different approach for future sites.

      Right now I have content written for 1 authority site:

      - 25 review articles
      - 10 informative articles
      - assigned a writer to create link worthy content by sourcing pages that have tons of links and making our page more complete, more worthy, where we will also quote tons of experts that we then will contact (link outreach campaign) and all the sites linking to the page that we improve will also get contacted, as well as a few 100 other link out reach opportunities
      - the theme is a professional looking theme that shows authority

      On top of that I will build 6 high relevant feeder sites around it that I rank with my network, small sites in fact that cover specific brands with just 7 articles per site (1 best page + 6 reviews) to funnel juice and traffic.

      I will also get involved in social media for this specific authority model site and keep on adding more content as we go and will send paid traffic using Outbrain for more exposure.

      I estimate such site should be able to bring in 2000 unique visitors per day and make at least $2000/month so that's the new plan.

      Wish me luck on that one as I never tried that.

      Turning it into a WSO? Once I become good at the all whitehat approach I might start some membership site (probably just one time fee or yearly fee as I don't think I can keep providing enough value on monthly base) and might implent certain of those elements in my SEO service.
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      • Profile picture of the author sweetcrabhoney18
        Instead of saying thank you for the advice I gave you when there are others in your thread attacking the whole plan you are hoping to do ... you decide to tell me all this which puts down nearly every piece of advice I just gave you??? :confused: That just hurts ... Based on your response it doesn't seem like you need nor want advice. You just wanted to share a plan you have .

        I mean come on ... I said " Sending prayers and best wishes your way that your 100 site plan works." And still you put down everything I wrote? With not a single thank you???

        Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

        10 sites are build right now and the link building started recently.

        Another 20 sites are on the shelf and I lay the finishing touch on them somewhere this week, and then the link building will start for them as well and once it all ranks I'll take a different approach.

        Why I am so confident it works? Cause I already ranked at least 10 very similar sites for a large client of mine, already sold 2 sites based on this concept with an income guarantee, and set up a few sites for myself before, so there is zero guess work involved here. It's all based on experience.

        I could inter link a few relevant sites with each other yes.

        Social media campaigns for each individual site is not really doable at this point as it's just too much and the links are hardly effective and the sites are not of that great quality that I expect them to be shared fanatically.

        Once this project is completed (as in all the 30 sites rank) I will take a different approach for future sites.

        Right now I have content written for 1 authority site:

        - 25 review articles
        - 10 informative articles
        - assigned a writer to create link worthy content by sourcing pages that have tons of links and making our page more complete, more worthy, where we will also quote tons of experts that we then will contact (link outreach campaign) and all the sites linking to the page that we improve will also get contacted, as well as a few 100 other link out reach opportunities
        - the theme is a professional looking theme that shows authority

        On top of that I will build 6 high relevant feeder sites around it that I rank with my network, small sites in fact that cover specific brands with just 7 articles per site (1 best page + 6 reviews) to funnel juice and traffic.

        I will also get involved in social media for this specific authority model site and keep on adding more content as we go and will send paid traffic using Outbrain for more exposure.

        I estimate such site should be able to bring in 2000 unique visitors per day and make at least $2000/month so that's the new plan.

        Wish me luck on that one as I never tried that.

        Turning it into a WSO? Once I become good at the all whitehat approach I might start some membership site (probably just one time fee or yearly fee as I don't think I can keep providing enough value on monthly base) and might implent certain of those elements in my SEO service.
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        • Profile picture of the author nik0
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          Originally Posted by sweetcrabhoney18 View Post

          Instead of saying thank you for the advice I gave you when there are others in your thread attacking the whole plan you are hoping to do ... you decide to tell me all this which puts down nearly every piece of advice I just gave you??? :confused: That just hurts ... Based on your response it doesn't seem like you need nor want advice. You just wanted to share a plan you have .

          I mean come on ... I said " Sending prayers and best wishes your way that your 100 site plan works." And still you put down everything I wrote? With not a single thank you???
          Uhm, actually I did thank your post

          and I did plan to inter link some sites, not all of them as that inter links my whole network, only the ones relevant to each other, same like you suggested.

          Creating separate social media campaigns for each of the sites, when talking about these numbers is totally not doable, it will just be a waste of time and I explained why so not sure why you are so upset. Or did you mean one social media campaign (facebook/twitter/pinterest) for all of the sites combined?

          For the future authority model I will try to create some awesome comparison pieces to share on Pinterest and the like!

          The graphics are indeed very limited at this point.

          Now I only missed one of your points and that is, which other affiliate platform would you recommend? Commission Junction?
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          • Profile picture of the author Devilfish168
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            10 Dollars for domain?

            as you mention going to set up 100 websites..

            that mean 100 domain names...? or perhaps you plan to use sub domain?


            next how about promoting these 100 sites bro..?

            I only just own one site...already finding hard to promote...although is still new..march 1 I start up....
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            • Profile picture of the author nik0
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              Originally Posted by Devilfish168 View Post

              :confused:
              10 Dollars for domain?

              as you mention going to set up 100 websites..

              that mean 100 domain names...? or perhaps you plan to use sub domain?


              next how about promoting these 100 sites bro..?

              I only just own one site...already finding hard to promote...although is still new..march 1 I start up....
              I am probably going to cancel the plan and stick to the 30 sites that are in progress right now. No sub domains.

              Ranking sites is my profession so 30 sites more or less won't make much of an impact. I use my network of high PR domains to rank them.

              Good luck with your site!
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  • Profile picture of the author Ronnie Wright
    Hire Mike Hersh for $5K to build you out a COMPLETE business, including products and all.

    That's leaves you with $10K for buying traffic and list building.

    Why spend $15K building Amazon's business?

    Build your own business. What happens if Amazon pulls the plug in your state?
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Originally Posted by Ronnie Wright View Post

      Hire Mike Hersh for $5K to build you out a COMPLETE business, including products and all.

      That's leaves you with $10K for buying traffic and list building.

      Why spend $15K building Amazon's business?

      Build your own business. What happens if Amazon pulls the plug in your state?
      Never heard of Mike Hersh, but I'm definitely not looking into some eGuide/digital product creation if that's what this is about!

      You know what's the thing with such type of deals? If he creates such awesome products that make people tens of thousands of dollars a month then why doesn't he promote it him self? I just found him and see that he promises a miminum of $10.000/month, and that for a measily $5k, doesn't make sense does it? In fact I'll contact one of his previous clients that I recognized as one of my own clients a long time ago. Asking if he makes the $10k/month now

      Plugging a state won't get me into trouble btw, I'm non US.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ronnie Wright
    I'm always amazed at people that want to do 12 things at once instead of doing one thing EXCEPTIONALLY WELL.
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  • Profile picture of the author ADVERTHEORY
    you're asking for opinions but you don't want to hear them. just a self promoting thread IMO.
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Originally Posted by ADVERTHEORY View Post

      you're asking for opinions but you don't want to hear them. just a self promoting thread IMO.
      Lol what is wrong with you people?

      Did I ask for alternatives? I don't think so so try to stick to the thread please!

      Perhaps read this sentence again: "100 sites is the plan and so it shall be done".

      So you really think I'm interested in selling some rehashed click bank style products or cancel the whole link building plan to replace it with nofollow social signals that hardly work if at all.

      Get real!
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      • Profile picture of the author ADVERTHEORY
        Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

        Lol what is wrong with you people?

        Did I ask for alternatives? I don't think so so try to stick to the self promoting journal please!

        you people
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        • Profile picture of the author nik0
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          Originally Posted by ADVERTHEORY View Post

          you people
          Yes one starts to cry that I didn't thank her while I did, the next one comes up with totally ridiculous alternatives, and you start to nag that I ignore people's non relevant suggestions / opinions.

          So ridiculous that it automatically becomes funny
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          • Profile picture of the author ADVERTHEORY
            Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

            Yes one starts to cry that I didn't thank her while I did, the next one comes up with totally ridiculous alternatives, and you start to nag that I ignore people's non relevant suggestions / opinions.

            So ridiculous that it automatically becomes funny
            My only nagging is that this is a follow me thread in a section where I believe they're prohibited.



            Your intent to me is ridiculously funny.
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            • Profile picture of the author nik0
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              Originally Posted by ADVERTHEORY View Post

              My only nagging is that this is a follow me thread in a section where I believe they're prohibited.



              Your intent to me is ridiculously funny.
              Perhaps you should re-read the questions asked in the OP.

              This is not a case study and it won't be updated with results.

              As a matter of fact this thread is quite old and bumped by someone and plans changed quite a bit in the meanwhile.

              The 100 sites, are now not being focused on 100 different niches, instead I will build a number of authority sites, and the small sites, as outlined in the OP will function as feeder sites for traffic and link juice.

              Instead of focusing on "best product x" keywords the sites will be optimized for specific brands, eg: Conair hair dryers, BabyLiss Flat Irons, etc.

              That way it automatically results in hyper relevant links for the authority site and that way I can more easy rank for the specific brands as my network is not unlimited in size. The authority sites will also get some social profiles around it, some publicity from press releases and paid traffic from Outbrain, as well as an extensive link outreach campaign.

              All this should get the ball rolling to provide a stable income for years to go.

              Not saying that the initial plan is completely excluded, once I have some more time I might start that up on the side as well, with a more churn & burn type of approach.

              In the end it's all about making money, how doesn't matter.

              ps: If you think the thread crosses some rules you are free to report it.
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Originally Posted by SocialMagic View Post

      You know a lot
      Yeah well, enough to turn a profit from things that I do.
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