Warrior Special Offers Forum - WHY?

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Hi guys. I'm completely new to this. Pardon me if i'm totally oblivious to what is happening.

A glance through "Warrior Special Offers Forum", i see many out there claiming they make tons and tons of money and are selling their the method they used to others. So here's my question.

If they are already so rich, why bother selling ebooks for such a small amount?(not even 1/100000) of what they are already earning. The only reason i could think of is they want to return favor back to the place they have gained from. If that is the case, why not give it free instead of charging such a small amount.

Of course, things ain''t that simple i guess but my brain just cannot figure out lol. Any kind souls out there care to enlighten me?

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  • Profile picture of the author Frank Murphy
    Reason 1 is that posting a WSO enables folks to create a new source of income, since it is never wise to put all your eggs into 1 basket.

    Reason 2 is what you stated, sharing their success with others so that struggling marketers can benefit from new ideas.

    Reason 3 is to test the market for a new product they intend to lauch, and the best place to do so is the WSO section.

    Reason 4 I can't think of another one :p
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  • Reason 5 - most of the people posting WSOs make more money from the WSO than from the "secret strategy" they actually sell... Keep it in mind.
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    • Profile picture of the author forfun_cash
      Reason 5 - most of the people posting WSOs make more money from the WSO than from the "secret strategy" they actually sell... Keep it in mind.
      Reason 6 - those are the types of products that sell the best...even if the strategies are old and just 'dressed' in new clothing

      Personally, I don't sell these any longer. I could, but I choose not to and would rather sell something people can really use instead.


      Tracy

      Omg. That's really sad to hear. I really wanted to kick start internet marketing and had eyed on one product. Now i'm having second thoughts.

      But wait. If most of the content are just sales gimmick, why would so many people buy the product and then GAVE positive feedbacks. Are those people in complete delusion? The fact that they have not started earning a single cent using the method given and gave positive feedbacks. Hmmmmm.
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      • Profile picture of the author MarkMilan
        Originally Posted by forfun_cash View Post

        But wait. If most of the content are just sales gimmick, why would so many people buy the product and then GAVE positive feedbacks. Are those people in complete delusion? The fact that they have not started earning a single cent using the method given and gave positive feedbacks. Hmmmmm.
        People don't like to think they've been ripped off or they've been suckered into buying trash. Obviously, not everyone is going to sing a product's praises just due to this, but I'm inclined to think it does subtly influence people's opinions.

        As a personal example, I have many music albums that I didn't like at first, but I stuck with them due to having spent money on them. If I had downloaded them for free -- I'm not recommending breaking the law -- then maybe I wouldn't have invested that extra time listening to them. I found things to like about albums I may otherwise not have liked because I spent money on them.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tracy Yates
    Reason 6 - those are the types of products that sell the best...even if the strategies are old and just 'dressed' in new clothing

    Personally, I don't sell these any longer. I could, but I choose not to and would rather sell something people can really use instead.


    Tracy
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Hersh
      Originally Posted by Tracy Yates View Post

      Reason 6 - those are the types of products that sell the best...even if the strategies are old and just 'dressed' in new clothing

      Personally, I don't sell these any longer. I could, but I choose not to and would rather sell something people can really use instead.


      Tracy
      I don't agree with you tracy. Not all the products old and 'dressed' up, they are unique products that are basically used for testing conversions for future products.

      I don't say that all the products are so good, but there are all kinds of ways to give such low price. The first post answers them all.

      Mike G
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      • Profile picture of the author Tracy Yates
        Originally Posted by Mike Hersh View Post

        I don't agree with you tracy. Not all the products old and 'dressed' up, they are unique products that are basically used for testing conversions for future products.

        I don't say that all the products are so good, but there are all kinds of ways to give such low price. The first post answers them all.

        Mike G

        Mike, when I made that "reason" it was a general reason. I wasn't being extra specific.

        But, you did say so yourself that not all the products are so great. And I do agree with you, some of them are very unique and original. So I hope all of you dont' take what I said the wrong way


        Tracy
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  • Profile picture of the author Marian Berghes
    Reason 7...and to me this is a big one...people generally tend to pay more attention to something that they actually PAID for.

    By giving it away for free, most people would consider it rehashed content or something that just wants to bring attention etc...

    But if you ask them for just a small fee...the mindset totally changes, because they paid for it they are going to pay abit more attention to the content and see how it can fit their business.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dave Z
    Because people want to make money of newbies and their greed, it is simple as that, nobody in their right mind is selling a $100K a month method for $49-, period.
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  • Profile picture of the author Adrian Cooper
    There is a huge difference between a "Product" and a "Solution".

    A Product is designed to sell in order to make the creator of the Product money.

    A Solution is designed to help the person who purchases the product solve an issue in their life.

    Maybe 99% of offerings are Products, not Solutions.

    This is a general observation, not necessarily related to WSO which I have never visited.
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  • Profile picture of the author Loren Woirhaye
    There is gold in the WSO forum. You need to get clear with
    yourself about what direction you want to go with your activity.

    I seldom buy "money making plans" anymore. Been there, done
    that. Lots of clever people out there though. In many cases
    as mentioned above, the promoter probably has made a few
    bucks and sees a way to make a few more claiming he made
    big dollars with the method. Be skeptical of all income claims.

    Be aware though, some Warriors are very good at what they
    do and are making real money at this game... but just buying
    their blueprint won't make you succeed. If success were so
    easy there would be much less of a market for "make money"
    products and books about how to think rich. The truth is
    making money on your own takes a lot of discipline and often
    groundwork... though if you have a knack for spotting opportunities
    you can approach it not so much as building a business but
    as... well, opportunism.

    Choose one method you want to do well - and really apply yourself
    to it. Then after you've seen what it involves and what your results
    are you can assess for yourself whether you want to continue
    to specialize in that path or go down another.

    To my mind (and most marketers will come to this eventually) it is
    your ability to PAY for advertising and traffic and make money that
    makes the biggest difference. SEO traffic and web 2.0 stuff is
    unpredictable.

    Learn to write ads and construct offers that make you money
    consistently, even if it is not a lot. What matters is knowing how
    to be profitable - because the skill of doing that is scalable.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kenneth L
      Originally Posted by Loren Woirhaye View Post

      There is gold in the WSO forum. You need to get clear with
      yourself about what direction you want to go with your activity.

      I seldom buy "money making plans" anymore. Been there, done
      that. Lots of clever people out there though. In many cases
      as mentioned above, the promoter probably has made a few
      bucks and sees a way to make a few more claiming he made
      big dollars with the method. Be skeptical of all income claims.

      Be aware though, some Warriors are very good at what they
      do and are making real money at this game... but just buying
      their blueprint won't make you succeed. If success were so
      easy there would be much less of a market for "make money"
      products and books about how to think rich. The truth is
      making money on your own takes a lot of discipline and often
      groundwork... though if you have a knack for spotting opportunities
      you can approach it not so much as building a business but
      as... well, opportunism.

      Choose one method you want to do well - and really apply yourself
      to it. Then after you've seen what it involves and what your results
      are you can assess for yourself whether you want to continue
      to specialize in that path or go down another.

      To my mind (and most marketers will come to this eventually) it is
      your ability to PAY for advertising and traffic and make money that
      makes the biggest difference. SEO traffic and web 2.0 stuff is
      unpredictable.

      Learn to write ads and construct offers that make you money
      consistently, even if it is not a lot. What matters is knowing how
      to be profitable - because the skill of doing that is scalable.
      I agree wholeheartedly that PAID traffic is what every new marketer should aim to master.

      Copywriting, Marketing, Backend, Continuity is what makes buying traffic possible and is the key to becoming successful Online.

      Also, there is a LOT of gold in the WSO Forum at excellent prices.

      Kenneht
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  • Profile picture of the author Mickm
    I use WSO's to get honest feedback before I launch a product.. it's a great way to test if something is working or not - because Warriors will let you know.
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Scott
    You know, a few years ago, that forum was amazing. Pretty much all that was in there was good stuff.

    Now-a-days it's so bloated with craptacular offers from people who seem to think releasing a crappy WSO is a business that I don't even bother. Occasionally I'll have a look and if there's someone who I dig that has released a product, I'll take it... but that doesn't happen much (often it's via sig files of those people).

    So, to answer your question, yeah, it is mostly crap in there.

    Regarding the "free" argument though you will quickly learn if you give your stuff away for free, it doesn't help anyone. Not you, and not the people who are getting it. Because it's free, it has a low perceived value.

    That's not to say you should never offer free stuff... just that there is a time and a place for it, and the WSO forum probably isn't it.

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    • Profile picture of the author MaskedMarketer
      Originally Posted by Daniel Scott View Post

      Because it's free, it has a low perceived value.
      i think it depends who its coming from and how valuable the information is.

      I find Ebens free information good. Frank Kerns, Rich Schefren, good info.

      some of the biggest players in the game give there best ideas free.

      a lot of people are just giving away free information available everywhere which is why its percieved as not valuable. on top of that , its usually not free because i have to exchange with my email address.

      And another thing i noticed- many WSO's are being promoted as "free" when they are not free. If I have to give my email to someone in exchange for a product, thats not free.... its false advertising.
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  • Profile picture of the author graphicsgenie
    Whos to say that someone who buys a $5 product now wont spend $1000 / month on something months into the sales funnel ?
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    • Profile picture of the author Fernando Veloso
      Originally Posted by graphicsgenie View Post

      Whos to say that someone who buys a $5 product now wont spend $1000 / month on something months into the sales funnel ?
      That's the spirit.

      WSO's are valuable for a lot of reasons, and that is just one of them:

      Share a secret
      Build trust among the community
      Build a targeted list to sell to later
      Grab some hundred bucks
      ....

      P.S. - The best WSO i bought its a $1 report. Now, how precious is that?
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    Some people find it fun to create WSOs and sell them.
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    • Profile picture of the author Frank Murphy
      Come to think of it, from a buyers' point of view, they can get HUGE discounts on products available on clickbank or elsewhere. So the WSO section is a win-win for everyone, buyer and seller alike.
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    • Profile picture of the author Fairlinks
      I think for most people, desire for money in not satiable. Once achieved a line of regular income, why to snap it for any reason?
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  • Profile picture of the author Harry Behrens
    The only way to turn your product fast is to offer it to a large, hungry, crowd that has been shown to have an interest in what you sell AND has been shown to have money to spend on it and to be willing to spend it.

    The WSO forum is one of the highest expressions of that principle that you will ever find. People who market to it are not only reaching their best prospects immediately, but also if they know their stuff then they're also building highly interested and responsive lists with them.

    People who have clued into this and are acting on it are already one step ahead of those that aren't marketing-wise, so it doesn't hurt to learn at least that little bit from them, I don't think.

    Of course to learn anything worth learning you have to look at what they actually DO and not what they say they do. So a lot of the times I buy WSO's it's not for the product itself (though sometimes it is), but more to study the process and exactly how the WSO marketer pulls everything off.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steven Carl Kelly
    Reason Number Eleventy-Two:

    IT'S FUN!

    Really. I ran a WSO for $10 e-covers, because I LOVE to do e-covers. Unfortunately, I had no clue exactly how many people would want MULTIPLE e-covers done at that price. Seriously, the order emails ran into the hundreds (no lie).
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    There are some good offers on the WSO forum. I have purchased some that I believe were worth more than the money I spent, but bear in mind, that just like the rest of the Internet, people do make unfounded claims of wealth and riches and people do get their friends to give testimonials to dodgy products. So don't believe everything you read and use caution when hitting the buy buttons.
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