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Niches

by MichaelCo
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I am looking for contacts/services that provide niches/ profitability keywords.

I am a newbie and following Andrew Hansen's course but i am struggling to find niches/keywords that i can get enough traffic from, rank for & of course make money from.

I have been searching for days on end to try find certain products that i can make money from but when i run them through my analysis funnel they aren't profitable enough or the market is way to competitive.

It just seems like there is to many affiliates in the game and there is no room for newbies like myself to enter.

So what i am looking for is... Somebody who sniffs out niches/profitability keywords that i can start building mini-sites on and start ranking and hopefully start making money.

I will pay $ for these of course.

Is there any services out there that provide what i am looking for?
#niches
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    And fiverr. Or you can just buy the software they use and do it yourself.
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  • Profile picture of the author writeaway
    Check the WSO section for software that enable you to figure out interesting new niches that have commercial value and manageable levels of competition.
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    I would choose someone that has reviews.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
    Originally Posted by MichaelCo View Post

    I am looking for contacts/services that provide niches/ profitability keywords.
    Look in the Warriors-For-Hire forum, not here for that.

    I am a newbie and following Andrew Hansen's course but i am struggling to find niches/keywords that i can get enough traffic from, rank for & of course make money from.
    Ah, you want to play the "ranking" game. SEO is a losing game where only a few people (who know what they're doing) do well with it, even so, it's not a sustainable business model. It can be a great short term money maker, but a lot of newbs fall into the SEO trap. Don't be one of them.

    I have been searching for days on end to try find certain products that i can make money from but when i run them through my analysis funnel they aren't profitable enough or the market is way to competitive.
    So you spent at least 3 months testing these products to see if they were profitable enough?

    And what do you mean by "too competitive"? Competition is major sign that people are doing well in that nice or market.

    It just seems like there is to many affiliates in the game and there is no room for newbies like myself to enter. ?
    You're barking up the wrong tree. If you're not willing to learn how to find your own profitable niches and stop trying to "rank" your pages or websites, then you're not going to make it in this industry.

    A niche or market that has "too many affiliates" means you have access to MORE lists and more potential JV partners.

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    • Profile picture of the author MichaelCo
      Originally Posted by Rod Cortez View Post

      So you spent at least 3 months testing these products to see if they were profitable enough?

      And what do you mean by "too competitive"? Competition is major sign that people are doing well in that nice or market.
      No, i did not spend 3 months testing any products. This is because it did not pass my analysis funnel to begin testing.

      1. These keywords do not provide enough traffic that i will rank for.
      2. The competition for these keywords could be extremely high and have x amounts of backlinks/referring domains that it would be a waste of time even attempting to outrank them for #1 google #2 google (where you will most likely make money from) (This is where i mean it's to competitive)


      Originally Posted by Rod Cortez View Post

      You're barking up the wrong tree. If you're not willing to learn how to find your own profitable niches and stop trying to "rank" your pages or websites, then you're not going to make it in this industry.

      A niche or market that has "too many affiliates" means you have access to MORE lists and more potential JV partners.
      I am willing to learn and have been trying my best to learn but not came across any of late using the techniques that i have been shown. I must be doing something wrong and it's stalling my progression into phase 2. Until i can find out what i am doing wrong, i was looking for a solution. Then i thought, hey why not just pay for somebody to sniff you out these keywords and i can get myself onto phase 2. However i will still be learning how to sniff out niches during this process. This is all a learning curve for me and to gain some experience and if i make some money along the way then hooray. Until i understand a system enough then i will worry about making an income from it.

      Originally Posted by Rod Cortez View Post

      stop trying to "rank" your pages or websites, then you're not going to make it in this industry.
      I cannot see how this is a bad thing? If people are searching these keywords then they must be interested, want to buy, or read reviews. By ranking your site #1 and #2 on google your site is the first site they see, so they click through your site and boom they click through your affiliate link if they want to purchase.

      I know they say you can get all the traffic in the world but that doesn't mean anyone will purchase. However, the way i look at it is if you're getting traffic from these keywords that you are promoting then you're only targeting the traffic that is interested in this product and you have a greater chance of getting sales.
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      • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
        Originally Posted by MichaelCo View Post

        No, i did not spend 3 months testing any products. This is because it did not pass my analysis funnel to begin testing.

        1. These keywords do not provide enough traffic that i will rank for.
        How did you come to this conclusion? What tools did you use? What kind of testing has your "analysis funnel" gone through to show that it's viable?

        2. The competition for these keywords could be extremely high and have x amounts of backlinks/referring domains that it would be a waste of time even attempting to outrank them for #1 google #2 google (where you will most likely make money from) (This is where i mean it's to competitive)
        Again, what tools did you use?

        I cannot see how this is a bad thing? If people are searching these keywords then they must be interested, want to buy, or read reviews. By ranking your site #1 and #2 on google your site is the first site they see, so they click through your site and boom they click through your affiliate link if they want to purchase.
        I have no real response to this; I've been at this full time with passive income since 2001. If you think trying to "rank" keywords is viable business model then have it. Let me know how that works out for you.

        I know they say you can get all the traffic in the world but that doesn't mean anyone will purchase. However, the way i look at it is if you're getting traffic from these keywords that you are promoting then you're only targeting the traffic that is interested in this product and you have a greater chance of getting sales.
        I have no idea what you're talking about here.

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        • Profile picture of the author MichaelCo
          Originally Posted by Rod Cortez View Post

          How did you come to this conclusion? What tools did you use? What kind of testing has your "analysis funnel" gone through to show that it's viable?
          First i would find a product. I would run it through adwords keyword planner to see if i can get enough traffic through it. Then i would put that keyword into google to see what comes up. I would then take the first domain of the first website that comes up. www.example. com then i would open up ahrefs and check how much backlinks/referring domains it has. I would check how long hes been building backlinks for and try to estimate if i can over take it. I might also go over to google trends and see how it's trending. I can also make a few calculations to get an estimation of how much money i am going to earn in any given market.

          After all of that, then i would decide if it would be worth the time or not.

          Originally Posted by Rod Cortez View Post

          I have no real response to this; I've been at this full time with passive income since 2001. If you think trying to "rank" keywords is viable business model then have it. Let me know how that works out for you.
          I don't think'' It's just the only way I've been taught, so i want to believe that i can make money from it. If you are so sure that i won't make money or not a lot of money from this then please give me good reasons to it. I would love to know them, i am here to learn and from somebody who's been at it from so long then your knowledge would mean even more.

          I am 21 and only starting out in IM and hope to be someday in your shoes passing on my knowledge to people who need it.

          Thanks.
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    • Profile picture of the author GlenH
      Finding profitable niches is really easy.

      Just look for niches where people need solutions to problems.

      Take the keyword ‘pimples’. I found 1136 keywords



      Now I refine it down to ‘pimples on the back’




      I could create 1136 pages around the keyword 'pimples’.

      Then I could narrow it down to do 'pimples' on different areas of the body - - ‘pimples on the neck’ - ‘pimples on the nose’ - ‘pimples on the buttocks’ - ‘pimples on the back’ etc.

      You could easily delve deeply into the whole ‘pimples’ niche.

      And what about the keyword ‘acne’?

      You could easily do the same for that.

      Even if many of those keywords had only small search number, combined the search numbers would be massive.
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      • Profile picture of the author MichaelCo
        Originally Posted by GlenH View Post

        Finding profitable niches is really easy.

        Take the keyword 'pimples'. You can see I found 1136 keywords



        Now I refine it down to 'pimples on the back'




        I could create 1136 pages on the keyword' pimples'. Then I could narrow it down to 'pimples on the neck' - 'pimples on the nose' - 'pimples on the buttocks' - 'pimples on the back'

        You could easily cover the 'pimples' niche.

        And what about 'acne'? You could easily do the same for that.

        Even if many of those keywords had only small search number, combined the search numbers would be massive.
        This is the sort of thing i am after, awesome. If you don't mind me asking, what tool is that you're using to find those keywords?
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        • Profile picture of the author GlenH
          Michael,

          Unfortunately, I can't give that information here, but you can PM me if you like
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  • Profile picture of the author studioc5
    There are a lot of tools out there to do keyword research. Some of them can have steep monthly costs, but there is also a lot you can do on your own.

    As Michael noted, you can use Keyword Planner to do some initial research. You can also type keywords into the google search bar to find keyword phrase ideas. The ones that come up are phrases that people are searching.

    At first, you definitely want to focus on long-tail keywords -- phrases that contain at least 2 to 3 words. Trying to rank for single keywords in a competitive market is just not going to happen when you are starting fresh.

    Hope that helps!
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  • Profile picture of the author writeaway
    Another tip when looking for niches.... AVOID SATURATED NICHES. Seriously. Why waste your time in a niche that's been pounded to the ground. There are many ways you can find HOT NICHES before they become widely known.

    You can track twitter hashtags

    You can use software to find 'hot terms' on industry-specific blogs
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