What should I promote with my PR9 site?

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I recently acquired a PR 9 site (verified) and intended to use it in my blog network to help increase the rank of a financial money site. But in my first few articles I am noticing this site is ranking fast, and without any backlinking at all. In fact the site had no backlinks to speak of when I bought it.

Why it was a PR 9? No idea. Last I saw from waybackmachine it just redirected to a foreign university. Before that it had some obscure incoherent content.

But the articles I added recently are being ranked, often times on the first page. I am not even using tags on these blog posts!

So now I am thinking that the PR 9 should be a money site itself.

I am starting to wonder if I could rank any keyword if I optimized it better and directed some high quality backlinks to it.

Google obviously gives favor to high PR sites, even those with no backlinks at all like mine. Will it downgrade it someday? Who knows. But I am trying to keep it somewhat consistent to what it was before by at least linking to the university that once owned it (presumably). And also copied the exact text that used to be on the site before that years ago and used it as the first few posts.

I am thinking of having an article written once a month about the university in question, just to make it look to goog that I am still "associated" with it somehow... even though I won't directly state that I am.

Anyhoo, just looking for a few opinions on what to do with it, money wise. Like I said I am leaning toward financial/gold, but want to really look at my options.

The site name has no real meaning that I am aware of btw. My tag line is the same as it was before the redirect to the university site, which was just meaningless and weird.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jigsaw
    a PR 9 site with no content and no backlinks ?

    ummmm yeah......
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  • Profile picture of the author Defacto
    Probably why no one else bid for it and I got it cheap. It was just one of many sites I won in auction and figured what the heck maybe it will be a decent backlink to my gold site. I thought it was strange too but I keep checking at Fake PageRank Checker and Google PageRank Checker - Check Google page rank instantly and it keeps checking out.
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    • Profile picture of the author AffiliatingAlan
      op bought a blank site that had a 301 redirect to harvard

      lol
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  • sell it on flippa
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  • Profile picture of the author derekwong28
    The reason why nobody else bid for the site was that they did not think it was genuine. The 301 re-direct trick for acquiring a false PR is well known. There are lots of PR7-10 sites who had acquired this PR in this manner. This has completely messed up the link sales market. You will be shot down by nasty comments the moment you put it up for sale in Flippa.
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  • Profile picture of the author KishanS
    Most likely the Page Rank is not genuine. 301 redirect is a common method used by scammers to fake the page rank of a website.
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  • Profile picture of the author altonroot
    I think it is temporary. You should start making money from it if it's articles ranking well. Register with ad-sense and publish quality content and earn money before you loose your PR and ranking too. That is the way I can see it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Big Kahuna SEO
    Sell it to someone who has no idea what they are doing. They will think they are getting a valid PR9. Wait a minute...
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  • Profile picture of the author Content Commando
    PR9 without links or content? you got scammed hard.
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  • Profile picture of the author smjconet
    Hmm, no Backlinks huh? Sadly, your rank is suspect. check it again.
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  • Profile picture of the author EPoltrack77
    You could sell advertising space on it! That way you are making money regardless...
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Fake PR no doubt. Not worth developing.
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    • Profile picture of the author zerofill
      Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

      Fake PR no doubt. Not worth developing.
      Possibly worth developing... definitely fake.

      But here is a trick I did a couple years ago, that someone may actually want to test out again. I did this on 3 different domains.

      I pointed 3 domains to various high PR sites.

      Of course they inherited the fake PR number.

      They then can drop to 0 on their own within a matter of days.

      But...

      Then I tried this... I pre-populated a couple niche blogs locally. Moved them over to those domains. Next PR update they were PR 2, 3, and another 2 or a 1 I forget.

      No backlinks, etc...

      So anyone feels like testing that, since I let them expire later anyway... I say give it a shot.

      Although I haven't really paid much attention to PR in a few years. Such a small element in the overall ranking equation. But if you can get that trick to work these days, you could probably flip a lot of PR1,2,3 sites on flippa anytime.

      Worth a shot for those that still have time to experiment.
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  • Profile picture of the author salegurus
    Originally Posted by Defacto View Post

    Will it downgrade it someday? Who knows.
    A definite YES, and it will come as soon as there is another PR update.
    So enjoy it while you can...
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    • Profile picture of the author Alice12345
      Originally Posted by salegurus View Post

      A definite YES, and it will come as soon as there is another PR update.
      So enjoy it while you can...
      Thats is why people keep flipping it. Because no one know what is going to happen in the future update
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      • Profile picture of the author zerofill
        Originally Posted by Alice12345 View Post

        Thats is why people keep flipping it. Because no one know what is going to happen in the future update
        No that isn't why... it plain and simply isn't a PR9 domain.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alice12345
    Simple enough.

    Build it and reach PR 10. Build rich content and traffic. Put adsense.
    Your passive income.

    If you feel like u dont like it, just flip it for money.
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  • Profile picture of the author seonutshell
    Despite the page rank being fake, you say it is ranking fast. Build it up then
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeff Lenney
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    LOL sorry dude you got scammed... Try to get a refund if you can or file a charge back to false advertising
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  • Profile picture of the author Richard Mortimer
    Sounds like it had links that were temporary or something.
    I got a PR5 that then slipped to PR4. But, it sounds a bit like your domain.
    Maybe best to do a permanent re-direct to your own site.

    Or, yeah, make it into a blog and sell it on Flippa!
    You could add a load of good content with your links, then sell it on Flippa.

    Then, you might get the best of both worlds....?

    Richard
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  • Profile picture of the author alexandersmith
    Fake PR will never be permanent, my friend had a similar situation where he paid a lot of money for it..2 months later the PR was gone!
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  • Profile picture of the author mcmdx
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    You should wait to the next PR update We had the same issue in the office...
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  • Profile picture of the author Defacto
    I bought it knowing full well it could be a scam. But the fake and other PR checkers say it is real. Who would point a "real" PR 9 site a worthless site just to make a few bucks on Godaddy auctions? It was just an expired domain I bid on, no one was advertising it.

    Here's the best I can do as to a screenshot without giving away the site URL completely:



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    • Profile picture of the author UMS
      Originally Posted by Defacto View Post

      I bought it knowing full well it could be a scam.
      Could be? Honestly, there should be no doubt whatsoever that any site with a PR9 page for sale (unless it costs tens or even hundreds of millions of dollars) is a complete fake.


      But the fake and other PR checkers say it is real.
      Just about all of those PR checkers are completely useless when it comes to detecting invalid PR.

      The best tools out there are back link checkers and a good dose of commonsense.

      Who would point a "real" PR 9 site a worthless site just to make a few bucks on Godaddy auctions?
      You misunderstand the redirection. It is the worthless site that redirects to a high PR page and once the PR is gained, the redirect is removed.

      This is a very common technique that people use to sell links or flip domains. Buyer beware.

      Bottom line, if it seems to good to be true...........
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  • Profile picture of the author David Black 68
    I agree that the pagerank shows as 9 and was probably acquired using a 301 redirect.
    I'm also sure it's page rank will vanish on the next update.

    What I'd like to know is this: Could this site really have the power of PR9 whilst it lasts?
    Does it fool Google or does Google just see the missing back links?
    Defacto says its ranking articles on first page.
    Or, does Google see right through it and the articles he's getting ranked for just happen to be for low competition keywords?
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    • Profile picture of the author Defacto
      Originally Posted by David Black 68 View Post

      I agree that the pagerank shows as 9 and was probably acquired using a 301 redirect.
      I used a PR 3 domain to get a relatively new site to a PR 3. I understand how the 301 redirect works in that capacity, when you direct the real PR site to a site with lower PR. But I would hope you cannot just 301 a PR 0 domain to a real PR 9 site to fool google that easily. Not to mention fool all the PR checkers out there.

      I am having a financial article written right now, with a mid level competition (IMO) search phrase, and will direct some quality backlinks to it to see if it ranks.
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      • Profile picture of the author Richard Mortimer
        Originally Posted by Defacto View Post

        I used a PR 3 domain to get a relatively new site to a PR 3. I understand how the 301 redirect works in that capacity, when you direct the real PR site to a site with lower PR. But I would hope you cannot just 301 a PR 0 domain to a real PR 9 site to fool google that easily. Not to mention fool all the PR checkers out there.

        I am having a financial article written right now, with a mid level competition (IMO) search phrase, and will direct some quality backlinks to it to see if it ranks.
        Defacto, I think you are right! What would be the point of doing a 301 from a PR9 site to your domain?

        How are you going to use it, though?
        1. 301 to your own site?
        2. Set-up a blog (and, we can all become guest authors)? ;-)

        Richard
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    • Profile picture of the author AffiliatingAlan
      Originally Posted by David Black 68 View Post

      I agree that the pagerank shows as 9 and was probably acquired using a 301 redirect.
      I'm also sure it's page rank will vanish on the next update.

      What I'd like to know is this: Could this site really have the power of PR9 whilst it lasts?
      Does it fool Google or does Google just see the missing back links?
      Defacto says its ranking articles on first page.
      Or, does Google see right through it and the articles he's getting ranked for just happen to be for low competition keywords?
      the site has no backlinks its worthless

      op what is PA/DA of said site?
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  • Profile picture of the author elmo033057
    Once again, another person looking for a short cut. Even if you have a site with a PR9 that will be around for awhile, if you have no market, market experience, or product that is compatible with that rank, I really don't see where it will help you.

    For example, if you had an online music publishing business that you were working for a few years and you had EXPERIENCE in that market and the PR9 site you purchased was a site in that market, I'd say fine, at least you can work with that for awhile. But, just randomly acquiring a site like that without a clear set of objectives congruent with a business model ahead of time is not smart.

    One other thing I would like to say is that this marketing plan (if you could call it that) is predicated on the idea that your whole business is online, which is difficult. You should not focus all of your efforts on one marketing vehicle. It is OK to do that if you are just going to make quick money in markets and digital products online you can get in and out of, but it has been my experience that most people will not make significant money that way, or at least money that you can bank on for years to come. (Remember, I said MOST PEOPLE. Yes, there are exceptions, but few.)

    Anyway, just my thoughts. I wish you well, my friend.

    God Bless!
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    • Profile picture of the author Defacto
      Originally Posted by elmo033057 View Post

      Once again, another person looking for a short cut. Even if you have a site with a PR9 that will be around for awhile, if you have no market, market experience, or product that is compatible with that rank, I really don't see where it will help you.

      For example, if you had an online music publishing business that you were working for a few years and you had EXPERIENCE in that market and the PR9 site you purchased was a site in that market, I'd say fine, at least you can work with that for awhile. But, just randomly acquiring a site like that without a clear set of objectives congruent with a business model ahead of time is not smart.

      One other thing I would like to say is that this marketing plan (if you could call it that) is predicated on the idea that your whole business is online, which is difficult. You should not focus all of your efforts on one marketing vehicle. It is OK to do that if you are just going to make quick money in markets and digital products online you can get in and out of, but it has been my experience that most people will not make significant money that way, or at least money that you can bank on for years to come. (Remember, I said MOST PEOPLE. Yes, there are exceptions, but few.)

      Anyway, just my thoughts. I wish you well, my friend.

      God Bless!
      The original reason for me buying the fake pr 9 site (along with other sites) was to support my main money site that earned me $10,125 since January so far. I made the top 10 affiliates last month for this company so while I am still a newbie in many respects my site is earning.

      That said I will probably take off my backlinks on the PR 9 site now that I am convinced its PR is fake. So I do want to thank all of you that contributed to this thread.
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      • Profile picture of the author elmo033057
        Originally Posted by Defacto View Post

        The original reason for me buying the fake pr 9 site (along with other sites) was to support my main money site that earned me $10,125 since January so far. I made the top 10 affiliates last month for this company so while I am still a newbie in many respects my site is earning.

        That said I will probably take off my backlinks on the PR 9 site now that I am convinced its PR is fake. So I do want to thank all of you that contributed to this thread.
        Outstanding, my friend! That's what I love about this place bumping into successful people and insulting their intelligence! LOL!

        Seriously impressed with your sophistication in this area. I look forward to hearing more about you and your ventures.

        God Bless!

        ELMO the Humbled
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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Greene
    A site with PR 9 which have got no backlink. I think it has done better than Google. :p
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  • Profile picture of the author sarah23
    Even though it looks like fake PR domain name but if you are getting some traffic, it would be better for you to put some content in there and monetize it.
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  • Profile picture of the author maz1207
    Most website with no contents but have high pagerank is getting fake pagerank because they redirected the domain to a high pagerank site such as a university website (in your case). Try to check your pagerank on SEOMastering (i believe someone provided the link on this thread). If it is fake PR, then it will drop one day.
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    • Profile picture of the author Defacto
      Originally Posted by maz1207 View Post

      Most website with no contents but have high pagerank is getting fake pagerank because they redirected the domain to a high pagerank site such as a university website (in your case). Try to check your pagerank on SEOMastering (i believe someone provided the link on this thread). If it is fake PR, then it will drop one day.
      I did, that is the screenshot I made yesterday, a few posts above.
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  • Profile picture of the author manolo2
    i would be careful site sounds dodgy. Don't put any material on there that you are afraid to lose
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  • Profile picture of the author Defacto
    OK I took another look at waybackmchine and this time I am seeing more high PR sites that the previous owner was redirecting to, not just the university like I saw before. So I admit the PR is fake.

    I am still going to add content to it though and see what happens, just as an experiment.
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  • Profile picture of the author Syed Raza
    PR 9 without any content ??? :O WooWWwww
    You sould sell that it would be the best option because i dont think that would remain in that place longer
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    I would do Amazon. It seems the best way now.
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