Do you run your own affiliate program?

by David_Thompson 19 replies
Hey guys,

how many of you guys run your own in house
affiliate program?

Or do you have an affiliate program setup?

Now this would mean you have your own
product or products so I'm not talk about
affiliate marketing, I'm looking from the
vendor side of things...

--David
#main internet marketing discussion forum #affiliate #program #run
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  • Profile picture of the author Lee McIntyre
    Hi David

    I've just finished setting up my new affiliate program at ProjectProfitShare.com .

    I'm using 1ShoppingCart which allows me to have all the products in one place, and to also pay 50% commission on all backend sales for a year after.

    Previously I'd used a bunch of different systems, but because they were all seperate they didn't 'talk to each other', and so I couldn't pay for backend sales.

    For example, now if someone makes a $10 sale they'll still get the credit if the customer buys one of our $397 packages 10 months later.

    One thing I've learned over the past year is put a lot of effort into choosing the right affiliate management system as changing to new software is a double pain!

    I hope this helps

    Lee McIntyre
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    • Profile picture of the author BIG Mike
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      • Profile picture of the author Solidsnake
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        I'm planning to do IM with thrink party,... I am still thinking of what product to make my own...
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        • Profile picture of the author David_Thompson
          Hey BIGMIKE,

          that a brilliant idea man I haven't seen a lot of people
          don't that before...I's very simple when you think about
          it your hands are free...nice one man

          Let that is awesome I do like that idea send one customer
          but get paid for other purchases down the road brilliant.

          I will be signing up.

          --David
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          • Profile picture of the author Michael Mayhew
            I use ClickBank with the EasyClickmate script.
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            • Profile picture of the author Roy Carter
              Hi Lee - I've been thinking of getting 1shoppingcart for a while now, but never gotten around to it. Is it easy/intuitive to use and to set up the affiliate program side of it?

              What's it like in sunny England at the moment? Not been back for a while.

              Roy
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              • Profile picture of the author Roy Carter
                Brain - That's what I thought Suppose I could always outsource someone to set it all up for me.

                But is it easy to use once set up?

                Roy
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                • Profile picture of the author Roy Carter
                  Originally Posted by Brian McElroy View Post

                  I really appreciate the system- it works great once you have it set up.

                  People who know 1SC don't come cheap... because they're valuable!
                  $65/hr was the quote from what appeared to be the best source.

                  Cheers,
                  Brian
                  Care to share that source?

                  Thanks Brian.

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                • Profile picture of the author David_Thompson
                  Originally Posted by Brian McElroy View Post

                  I really appreciate the system- it works great once you have it set up.

                  People who know 1SC don't come cheap... because they're valuable!
                  $65/hr was the quote from what appeared to be the best source.

                  Cheers,
                  Brian
                  Who is the company that set this up for your bro?

                  --David
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                  • Profile picture of the author Matt Fulger
                    Another place you may wanna take a look at is: Merchant Account | Credit Card Merchant Account | PowerPay

                    It's NOT necessarly an affiliate solution, but a merchant account provider geared towards IMers. A shit load of the Heavy Hitters use these guys. And I'm sure you can integrate your own affiliate solution if it's not already in place through them.

                    Peace & Prosperity,
                    Matt Fulger
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                • Profile picture of the author KentM
                  Originally Posted by Brian McElroy View Post

                  I really appreciate the system- it works great once you have it set up.

                  People who know 1SC don't come cheap... because they're valuable!
                  $65/hr was the quote from what appeared to be the best source.

                  Cheers,
                  Brian
                  If you have any questions about setting up your 1ShoppingCart affiliate program our Technical Support staff are more then happy to help you out with them. We also offer a service where we will totally setup your affiliate program for you if you are having troubles with it. You would need to contact our Sales Department for pricing. Both departments can be reached toll free at 888-792-1961.
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                  • Profile picture of the author Tim_Carter
                    I have been using Ultimate Affiliate Manage since 2005.
                    It works well but I need some more features.

                    Time for an upgrade I guess.
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                  • Profile picture of the author David_Thompson
                    Originally Posted by KentM View Post

                    If you have any questions about setting up your 1ShoppingCart affiliate program our Technical Support staff are more then happy to help you out with them. We also offer a service where we will totally setup your affiliate program for you if you are having troubles with it. You would need to contact our Sales Department for pricing. Both departments can be reached toll free at 888-792-1961.
                    Hey Kent,

                    thanks for stopping by and posting
                    and welcome to the forum...

                    I do see a lot of people going over
                    to 1ShoppingCart is that because
                    of what?

                    --David
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                    • Profile picture of the author KentM
                      Originally Posted by David_Thompson View Post

                      Hey Kent,

                      thanks for stopping by and posting
                      and welcome to the forum...

                      I do see a lot of people going over
                      to 1ShoppingCart is that because
                      of what?

                      --David
                      Thank you for the welcome. I don't want to break any rules, if there are any on promoting a product, so if you have any additional questions you are free to PM me.

                      I think the biggest advantage we have at 1ShoppingCart is that you have everything under one roof. You don't have to have a separate shopping cart, email marketing and affiliate program.

                      As some of the other members stated it is a robust affiliate program and you may have to really work at it for a little while to get everything out of it, but those who do like it. I will be the first to admit that it took me a couple of months before I really got a good grasp of everything that it can do and I worked with it everyday (I'm in email delivery now).

                      With our system being totally integrated you don't have to worry about everything playing nice as you would with multiple vendors.

                      It is far from perfect, nothing is but we do everything we can to make it a system that marketers would be comfortable using.

                      I hope this helps some.
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                      • Profile picture of the author zortag
                        I use Clickbank for my backlink product. It isn't necessarily because I think Clickbank is wornderful - in fact there are a lot of things wrong with Clickbank - it's just that the other options are worse.

                        At first I thought of using payDotCom. Have you tried their server recently? It is slooowwww. I think their main processor is an abacus. It's ridiculous. Furthermore, they only accept paypal. People have done studies that show that sales to the general audience go down significantly if you only offer PayPal as the only payment option. So strike PayDotCom.

                        I also tried 2Checkout. They aren't bad, but for my subscription product, they only accepted credit cards, no PayPal. I wanted both options. Furthermore, they are pretty new at handling affiliate tracking and payments.

                        There were a few lesser players (like RegNow for example) that I rejected for a variety of other reasons.

                        That left only Clickbank. CB is OK but it is too easy to steal affiliate commissions. Their backend system was hacked together and has all sorts of stupid rules and features, half of which aren't documented. Trying to put together and test and Instant Notification Script? Good luck - their documentation suck. I know how to do it now, after finding a phone number for them in some remote corner of the internet and calling to hassle them, but my script uses some undocumented features of their service. Did you also know that they throw away tracking info if you have your own affiliate name listed in the hoplink for your own product? So if you are selling your own product andyour username is "whatever", then an affiliate hoplink should be http://AFFID.whatever.hop.clickbank.net. If you are an affiliate AFFID and want tracking info for this, like for an Adwords campaign, then you can use http://AFFID.whatever.hop.clickbank.net/?tid=xyz. That works fine. But if you are the affiliate selling your own product and use this URL:
                        http://whatever.whatever.hop.clickbank.net/?tid=xyz then Clickbank just throws away all the tracking info. In other words, to drive traffic to your own product with a tracking ID you need to have TWO clickbank accounts, one where you are an affiliate and one where you have your product. Not very well thought out.

                        But then again, CB has an army of 100,000 affiliates, so it isn't a bad option once you get it working right.
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  • Profile picture of the author Emailrevealer
    Ido. I'm a pi and I sell investigative services.
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  • Profile picture of the author jbsmith
    Yep - one of the major benefits of having your own products is to allow you to leverage across many partners/affiliates to drive traffic and sales to your business.

    Depending on the product, my affiliates drive between 25% and 60% of my sales.

    For most of my IM products I use 1SC, great system with lots of flexibility - no real bad things to say other than the reporting could be a little better

    For some of my infoproducts in other niches, I've chosen Clickbank mainly because I know there are certain niches where Clickbank affiliates are looking for new products and I pick them up rather easily.

    Finally, my membership sites I run off of a entire front end content management system which also includes an affiliate manager - it's not as good as 1SC or even Clickbank, but still has the basics and does what I need it to do for tracking affiliates sending traffic to my continuity programs.

    I used to manage this all myself - lately I've added an assistant that helps run the reports, make sure people get paid...etc

    Jeff
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    • Profile picture of the author David_Thompson
      I find not a lot of people are concern about running their
      own affiliate program or pay too much of attention to
      it if they do have one at all.

      It looks like most of the product owners especially the new
      ones just starting out have major issues with find a good
      service to run their affiliate program or whether to run it
      in house at all.

      It seems this part of the IM business is very much over looked
      and not a lot of material on this topic?

      Maybe I'm run here but haven't seen much on creating and running
      an affiliate program.

      --David
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  • Profile picture of the author granola
    Hey David,

    I agree with you, there really isn't alot of information or choices when it comes to inhouse affiliate programs.

    I am finishing up my membership site soon and we are getting ready to build the inhouse affiliate system for it, we are trying to decide between 1SC and Idev.

    I think we are going to go with iDev only because we want to have full access to the database for more unique and creative ways of offering memberships etc.

    I am lucky to have an ingenious team of developers that are very skilled, so whichever solution I choose they will be able to implement perfectly... they were not easy to find and I will not share them with anyone! At least not until I am done with them, which may be never!

    Charles
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