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Questions about list building...

by saxguru
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Hi everyone,

I am trying to build a list for one of my amazon affiliate sites which is centered around Industry, business and scientific supplies.

What could I offer people who were looking to purchase these kind of supplies in return for joining my list? I need to provide them with some sort of value and then recommend them sources to buy products with affiliate links.

Also I have just done a bit of research and I have found quite a few sites which sell email lists. 98,000 construction companies email addresses, websites, postal addresses and phone numbers for just $245

Am I allowed to buy email addresses to add to my list?

If this is frowned upon then obviously I will not be doing it, I just want to make sure. Also 98,000 supposedly "verified" email addresses seems like a bit too good to be true for just $245?

If this is allowed and I do end up doing it, which email provider can handle such a large list while still being low cost? I am currently using Aweber but only with the 500 subscribers option.

Many thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author troymarkz
    Well buying a list is not a good way to start list building is better if you buy traffic and send it to a squeeze page and what can you give? Well you can create a Free video telling people if they opt in to your list you will send them a video telling them how to x in y in that niche hope this helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author StanHyeck
    Originally Posted by saxguru View Post

    Hi everyone,

    I am trying to build a list for one of my amazon affiliate sites which is centered around Industry, business and scientific supplies.

    What could I offer people who were looking to purchase these kind of supplies in return for joining my list?
    You listed MUCH too wide of an area to make helping with that too easy. "business supplies" is quite a bit different than "scientific supplies" ... so in this case I would say that you need some kind of information on how to buy the right price point. Something that explains the difference between buying the lowest end versus why someone might want the highest end product.

    Am I allowed to buy email addresses to add to my list?
    You're allowed to buy them. BUT ... if you actually send an email to that list, that's spam. You will likely get your web host shut down, possibly even your actual home web account.

    The only person you should ever send an email to is someone that has signed up to your specific email list through your specific sign up form. If someone hasn't given you explicit permission to send them an email DO NOT email that person.

    Hope this helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joseph Villanueva
    If its too good to be true then it probably is. You dont have history on this list.

    But all may not be lost. If you create a squeeze page with an offer about your industrial niche, see if there are any that would optin.

    Use leadpages or optimize press and if you get a few hundred optin in then you just got 1$ a subscriber.

    Forgot to mention, pure leverage is good autoresponder feature For 25$ 10000 limit and video email and tool suite.
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  • Profile picture of the author kellymonaghan
    Your categories are pretty broad but here are some of the more general things the "experts" seem to be recommending these days.

    * Videos (as opposed to PDF reports)
    * One single item. In other words, no 5-part "courses" delivered a day apart.
    * Items that can be "consumed" (that is read, watched, or listened to) quickly, in 5 minutes or so.
    * Cheat Sheets. Short, punchy tips on how to accomplish a specific task.
    * Resource Lists. Same sort of idea as cheat sheets.
    * A physical product that doesn't cost you very much. This has the advantage of getting you their physical address although as an affiliate that probably doesn't matter.
    * Free membership to a suite of content.

    Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author HighSkool6Figurenaire
    Buying email "SPAM" list can be very disastrous. Not only can the emails be ineffective and be sold to countless other people, but it could have serious legal implications.

    If you do go through with buying a list (not my recommendation) then You'll probably be better off sending an email that goes directly to a landing page and get the prospect to double opt in.

    you're just asking for trouble otherwise
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    • Profile picture of the author saxguru
      Originally Posted by HighSkool6Figurenaire View Post

      Buying email "SPAM" list can be very disastrous. Not only can the emails be ineffective and be sold to countless other people, but it could have serious legal implications.

      If you do go through with buying a list (not my recommendation) then You'll probably be better off sending an email that goes directly to a landing page and get the prospect to double opt in.

      you're just asking for trouble otherwise
      It's very tempting to buy the list I was talking about. However I realize that no one wants to be spammed, including myself. Personally I have never once ended up purchasing something from a spam email.

      I think that pretty much tells me that I would be a waste of my time. Better to do it the right way and built a list myself I think...
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      • Profile picture of the author TakenAction
        Originally Posted by saxguru View Post

        It's very tempting to buy the list I was talking about. However I realize that no one wants to be spammed, including myself. Personally I have never once ended up purchasing something from a spam email.

        I think that pretty much tells me that I would be a waste of my time. Better to do it the right way and built a list myself I think...
        Thank god you just realized that. Most people would have to learn the hard way with that kind of stuff. Good for you.
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      • Profile picture of the author Alice12345
        Originally Posted by saxguru View Post

        It's very tempting to buy the list I was talking about. However I realize that no one wants to be spammed, including myself. Personally I have never once ended up purchasing something from a spam email.

        I think that pretty much tells me that I would be a waste of my time. Better to do it the right way and built a list myself I think...
        Yeah the answer is NO. The reason is as what you had stated.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nick Logan
    You are not alowed to spam folks, so the answer is no.
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      Amazon has zero tolerance for spamming. Your account could be terminated without notice or recourse.

      What many affiliates I know are doing is buying business leads and either calling or sending postcards with links to product presell pages.

      For best conversion results, promote only one product at a time such as air hoses for auto repair shops, shipping supplies for industry, nitrile gloves for scientific/medical, etc. Consider promoting products from AmazonSupply.com to businesses.

      Always be sure to have an opt-in form (including full contact info) on every sales page, because Amazon will also be doing some heavy duty email follow-up promotions to your customers.
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      • Profile picture of the author Stevie C
        Originally Posted by myob View Post

        Amazon has zero tolerance for spamming. Your account could be terminated without notice or recourse.

        What many affiliates I know are doing is buying business leads and either calling or sending postcards with links to product presell pages.

        For best conversion results, promote only one product at a time such as air hoses for auto repair shops, shipping supplies for industry, nitrile gloves for scientific/medical, etc. Consider promoting products from AmazonSupply.com to businesses.

        Always be sure to have an opt-in form (including full contact info) on every sales page, because Amazon will also be doing some heavy duty email follow-up promotions to your customers.
        Myob knows his stuff with listbuilding and Amazon and I would check out some of his other posts regarding this.

        An optin on your website with a free weekly newsletter for current deals in this niche would work.
        I wouldn't buy any lists, you need really targeted traffic for this sort of niche.
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        • Profile picture of the author myob
          Originally Posted by Stevie C View Post

          I wouldn't buy any lists, you need really targeted traffic for this sort of niche.
          Let me just clarify this a bit. Buying business lists does work quite well. Besides article syndication (my preferred method), this is among the fastest ways of targeting contacts in the niches mentioned by the OP.

          But they not don't respond well to email as an initial promotion, and there are other strong negatives for this method as previously mentioned. Checkout the offline forum for effective cold calling/prospecting techniques.
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          • Profile picture of the author Dani78
            Agree with myob,

            if you buy lists you have to be creative
            and do more than just email.
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  • Profile picture of the author actionplanbiz
    It might be one of those niches where building a list to promote offers is not worth it. You can always email your list everytime you make a new post on your amazon site.
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  • Profile picture of the author lukeblower
    I tend to avoid buying anything like this- emails lists, likes for Facebook, followers for twitter. I only hear bad stories about them.
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  • Profile picture of the author brutecky
    If you are still asking if you are allowed to buy email address's to add to your list then you need to take a step back and start all over from the beginning.

    Spamming - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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  • Profile picture of the author sammy75000
    buying email list is not an option. i would rather suggest that you place ads in some social bookmarking sites and local newspapers with your opt-in form in them
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