I am NOT ADVERTIZING! Just discussing!!

by devonm
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I sell something at a certain cheap price for a couple hours of work, and someone was offering a similar service, but they were charging a whole assload of money for handcoded sites. Mind you I handcode as well.

I couldn't believe what the hell they were asking. My head swum. And is remaining in the water swimming across the Pacific. Not even near Hawaii on Mainland Statesside at all. I. Just. Drowned.

I was in TOTAL SHOCK. I wonder if I was underpricing for just a page, or if I was right as I am newer and need to get additional experience?

I know when I get further experienced and if I can't do something else, I can always go back to this and charge a buttload more. I mean a ^*#@ing ASSLOAD more.
#advertizing #discussing
  • Profile picture of the author LastWarrior
    Not sure of the range of the niche your in, but it seems to me you are not completely familiar with all of it if pricing right is a concern. I would recommend doing more background work and seeing what other competitors are charging and what they are offering for that amount. Then there's gameful salesmanship. 2 people can offer the same thing, but one could command more. If a buyer is willing, then so be it. In one of my offline businesses, I've had occurrences where I won the bid and was 40-50% lower than the competition! That's not good for me. Know the market and adjust the price or what you are offering accordingly.

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  • Profile picture of the author devonm
    It was building a simple capture page with CSS and HTML and I am a newer person at this so I have to begin in a small space before I expand to bigger websites. I am starting very small to begin with.
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    • Profile picture of the author LastWarrior
      You also have to remember this web build stuff is our world and we've studied and developed our skills along the way. It may be nothing for some to slap up a squeeze or landing page with video, email capture... the whole nine yards so to speak... while some couldn't even spell FTP. We may only spend a couple of hours doing something, but we've spent money, energy, loss of sleep, sweat equity and many long hours learning what we do to get paid for that couple hours of work!

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      • Profile picture of the author wtatlas
        Another thing to bear in mind is that asking doesn't equate to getting. The competitor might not be getting much business at the price being asked.
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        • Profile picture of the author devonm
          Originally Posted by wtatlas View Post

          Another thing to bear in mind is that asking doesn't equate to getting. The competitor might not be getting much business at the price being asked.
          That is also true, now that you mention it.
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          • Profile picture of the author LastWarrior
            Exactly. Reminds me sometimes when I go to look or buy something. The seller says this goes for umteen hundred dollars at eBay. Then I say "Really?!" Let's have a look, then instead of looking at what things are priced to sell at, I look at the auctions that already ended and what the items are actually selling for. Quite a difference sometimes.

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  • Profile picture of the author devonm
    Didn't take me long to make a capture page and a few other pages with the CSS3 and HTML. Dang. So easy once I got the hang of it. It was VERY easy for me to learn. I have no idea why someone couldn't spell FTP in this day and age. Somehow, it just boggles my mind.
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    • Profile picture of the author Myles Sinclair
      Originally Posted by devonm View Post

      "......I have no idea why someone couldn't spell FTP in this day and age. Somehow, it just boggles my mind.
      It is a puzzle. But some folks even have trouble spelling ADVERTISING.
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      • Profile picture of the author LastWarrior
        Originally Posted by Myles Sinclair View Post

        It is a puzzle. But some folks even have trouble spelling ADVERTISING.
        Yeah, that's funny!... but I didn't want to go there.

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        • Profile picture of the author Myles Sinclair
          Originally Posted by LastWarrior View Post

          Yeah, that's funny!... but I didn't want to go there.

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          Me neither, but sometimes I just can't help myself! Lol.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Taylor
    Just one piece of advice:

    Get out of the competing by price mindset.

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    • Profile picture of the author Chri5123
      Originally Posted by John Taylor View Post

      Just one piece of advice:

      Get out of the competing by price mindset.

      John
      This ^

      Took me a long time to understand this.

      In short: "You pick your price don't worry what other people are doing, just concentrate on offering the best service you can!"
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  • Profile picture of the author ryanbiddulph
    Hi,

    If you're like most folks - and I've been there - you are WOEFULLY undercharging Now I get it; we charge according to our skills. But if you are doing something similar, and could easily complete these jobs, you should charge closer to fair market value, or to at least what the other guys or gals charge

    Know your worth!
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  • Profile picture of the author annacao
    I also concur with the fellow warriors. If you have had a lot of experience in the field, your expertise is worth a lot more. Maybe you can collect the positive testimonials from your past clients and then use that to vamp your credibility.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
    I'm with John on this.

    Your mindset is the problem, not what you're offering.

    The price people are willing to pay is one thing, WHO they are willing to pay it to is another thing entirely.

    What you are referring to is techically very simple but that doesn't define the price.

    The problem you are solving and who you are solving it for (and how THEY value that solution) is where most of the price definition comes in.

    I have people offering to pay me hundreds of pounds for things that take less than an hour to do and when I tell them they can go get it done cheaper somewhere else they often say something like "I know that, but I want to deal with someone I can trust and that I respect and who understands what I need" and they are happy to pay more because they value my time and expertise. YOU could not get their work because they don't know you.

    Many people fall in the middle on this - they want a cheap price but not so cheap that they have to go to someone they have no experience or trust in.

    People are usually willing to pay for:

    Quality
    Support
    Expertise

    I would not get you to do any work for me - because I don't know you so your price is irrelevant. You could offer to do the work for free and I wouldn't be interested.

    So - I would say stop focusing on the price and thinking that you are selling yourself short - you're only worth what someone will pay you, regardless of what someone else is getting paid.
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    • Originally Posted by Andyhenry View Post

      I'm with John on this.

      Your mindset is the problem, not what you're offering.

      The price people are willing to pay is one thing, WHO they are willing to pay it to is another thing entirely.

      What you are referring to is techically very simple but that doesn't define the price.

      The problem you are solving and who you are solving it for (and how THEY value that solution) is where most of the price definition comes in.

      I have people offering to pay me hundreds of pounds for things that take less than an hour to do and when I tell them they can go get it done cheaper somewhere else they often say something like "I know that, but I want to deal with someone I can trust and that I respect and who understands what I need" and they are happy to pay more because they value my time and expertise. YOU could not get their work because they don't know you.

      Many people fall in the middle on this - they want a cheap price but not so cheap that they have to go to someone they have no experience or trust in.

      People are usually willing to pay for:

      Quality
      Support
      Expertise

      I would not get you to do any work for me - because I don't know you so your price is irrelevant. You could offer to do the work for free and I wouldn't be interested.

      So - I would say stop focusing on the price and thinking that you are selling yourself short - you're only worth what someone will pay you, regardless of what someone else is getting paid.
      Wonderfully put. This is something that i should know in my mind but have yet to think about till now. Thank you for that
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