Starting an Article Writing Business

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I want to start a website where I offer SEO articles for cheap prices. For example:
400 word Articles= 10$
1000 Word Articles= 20$
2000 Word Articles = 35$

The questions that I have for you are:
1.) Do you believe these prices are reasonable? If not place your suggestion
2.) How would I go about having people come to my website to ask for articles?
3.) Would any of you want to join my team of writers?

Please be as descriptive and detailed as possible in order to help me. Thank you in advance!
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Tandan
    The prices you're charging are reasonable in some markets, however writers on Fiverr and some in the warrior classifieds charge less.
    You should consider looking into some article writing sites where you can advertise your services as well - in addition to your website. iwriter.com, odesk, there really are a lot of places you can list your services.
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    • On fiverr a 400 word article costs 5$.
      According me your prices are good only if you offer high quality article.
      I suggest you to list your services on freelancing sites like elance or odesk ofr less price.
      Gain feedbacks and after increase your prices.
      I have read than an high quality article can cost also 15-20$
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  • Profile picture of the author AnniePot
    I strongly suggest you implement this WSO by John Coutts: http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...ml#post8263211 I have no affiliation whatsoever in the WSO, but having earned a living from writing for many years, I can attest to the brilliant information and advice it contains.

    BTW, I would also suggest that you DO NOT ever align yourself with Fiverr writers or yout writing career will be doomed from the start.
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  • Profile picture of the author Trent Pill
    You have to be a really strong writer to get $40 an article. Wow!
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    • Profile picture of the author AnniePot
      Originally Posted by Trent Pill View Post

      You have to be a really strong writer to get $40 an article. Wow!
      Really???? I consistently made $250 for a 1,000 word article. I assembled a number of clients who fully understood the value of great content. These days though, I concentrate solely upon Kindle fiction.
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      • Profile picture of the author Trent Pill
        Originally Posted by AnniePot View Post

        Really???? I can consistently made $250 for a 1,000 word article. I assembled a number of clients who fully understood the value of great content. These days though, I concentrate solely upon Kindle fiction.
        So are you agreeing with me and stating you are a strong writer, or are you disagreeing and saying you can charge those amounts being a weak writer?
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        • Profile picture of the author AnniePot
          Originally Posted by Trent Pill View Post

          So are you agreeing with me and stating you are a strong writer, or are you disagreeing and saying you can charge those amounts being a weak writer?
          I was saying that if you are a strong, effective writer, you can charge significantly more than $40.
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          • Profile picture of the author Eric Lovelace
            Congrats on starting a business, that is a major step on taking action.

            Now it's time to ramp up your PR, and get your name out there.

            Start by joining sites, forums, blogs, FB Groups, etc. that are similar to your services. Post your services there along with posting relevant tips and tricks that can also benefit members. Remember give and you shall receive.

            Talk to others offering the same services you as well because you never know when they'll slide orders your way because they're swamped with theirs.

            Next create a social network account for Facebook, Instagram, Pinterest, Twitter, Etc. Put examples of your work and start to mingle.

            I say, you do have a pretty sweet PR plan in front of you. Continue to take action and you'll always have success.

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  • Profile picture of the author ryanbiddulph
    Hi Stefan! I think they're low. Start at 600 word articles - Google sees these and more likely higher word counts, as being worthy - for like $30 to $40, then work your way up from there.

    400 word articles are going the way of the dinosaur, unless you're Seth Godin

    Hope this helps!
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  • Profile picture of the author shmeeko69
    Originally Posted by Stefanthekid View Post

    I want to start a website where I offer SEO articles for cheap prices. For example:
    400 word Articles= 10$
    1000 Word Articles= 20$
    2000 Word Articles = 35$

    The questions that I have for you are:
    1.) Do you believe these prices are reasonable? If not place your suggestion
    2.) How would I go about having people come to my website to ask for articles?
    3.) Would any of you want to join my team of writers?

    Please be as descriptive and detailed as possible in order to help me. Thank you in advance!
    Whilst that seems like a good idea for people wanting content for their sites, you'll be competiting against a monster freelancing site called Fiverr.

    There are good and established writers on there who unfortunately, write 400+ articles for $5, so please bare this in mind.
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    • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
      Originally Posted by shmeeko69 View Post

      Whilst that seems like a good idea for people wanting content for their sites, you'll be competiting against a monster freelancing site called Fiverr.

      There are good and established writers on there who unfortunately, write 400+ articles for $5, so please bare this in mind.
      No one has to compete with writers on fiverr. No one. As for "good and established" writers charging $5 for anything, that's not even close to being accurate.
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      • Profile picture of the author jandysolutions
        Hello Stefan,

        When it comes to content (articles), there are clients out there that will be more than happy to pay more for the quality, I mean high quality articles, if and only if, they cannot find the same quality elsewhere for a cheaper price.

        As for fiverr, from my personal experiance, you get what you pay for. I have bought articles on Fiverr for $5, but was disappointed at the quality, but I honestly did go in knowing that for $5 I won't be getting a master piece, but for the $5 it was ok.

        Don't get me wrong, not knocking down writers from Fiverr, but for $5, you can expect a lot, especially USA writers when $5 barely buys a gallon of milk in some places (NYC).

        Your prices are reasonable, if and only if, you are providing high quality articles, with great or excellent customer service and building, honest, trusting relationships with your clients.

        My tip, charge a little less, not too much until you build a reputation, than you can increase the price as a warrior mentioned above. That way, you will gain experience, and developing strong business relationships with those clients, who will stick around for the long run and refer you to others. Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
    Originally Posted by Stefanthekid View Post

    I want to start a website where I offer SEO articles for cheap prices.
    That's not very good timing, Stefan. Articles created predominantly for SEO purposes are rapidly losing whatever ranking effect they may once have had. The trend in content creation is to focus on the reader, rather than the search engines.

    That generally means longer, more engaging pieces, written by professional and/or topic-expert writers. And such content doesn't come cheap.

    While you may find some (or even several) clients who have yet to adjust, with your intended business model you'll risk getting sucked into a price-dominated, shrinking market.


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  • Profile picture of the author discrat
    Originally Posted by Stefanthekid View Post

    I want to start a website where I offer SEO articles for cheap prices. For example:
    400 word Articles= 10$
    1000 Word Articles= 20$
    2000 Word Articles = 35$

    The questions that I have for you are:
    1.) Do you believe these prices are reasonable? If not place your suggestion
    2.) How would I go about having people come to my website to ask for articles?
    3.) Would any of you want to join my team of writers?

    Please be as descriptive and detailed as possible in order to help me. Thank you in advance!
    Iam going to take a stab and say you are worth the $10 per 400 word article.

    Do not worry about people at Fiverr. Charge what you "know" you are worth. And not a penny below.

    That being said an intro price of $10 is a good place to start . And get your feet wet and some needed exposure.

    After awhile consider your efforts more valuable and up the prices.

    Personally, I write for myself. I did some writing in the past for clients but found out my overall earnings suffered when I wrote for other people.

    I am selfish that way so I just do not want to pursue being part of a Writing Team.
    Sorry, hope you understand


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  • Hi,

    As friends mentioned above, the prices a bit high, there are many freelancers are charging less than you...
    like 400 words = $5 !

    Secondly I suggest to you to start to sale PRL (private rights label) and when you get some audiences then you would grow slowly slowly ...

    For Your Success !
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  • Don't ever, ever, ever compare yourself to Fiverr writer's in the areas of pricing or quality.

    If you want to be a head chef, don't look to line cooks for pointers.

    That being said, you may have to settle for lower rates in the beginning just to get some work and experience. As you build a portfolio and rack up positive reviews, you'll be able to leverage those into higher and higher rates.

    I'd suggest setting up a profile at a freelancing site like Elance, paying for a WSO here on the forum, and working your way up the ranks.
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    • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
      Originally Posted by The Content Professional View Post

      Don't ever, ever, ever compare yourself to Fiverr writer's in the areas of pricing or quality.

      If you want to be a head chef, don't look to line cooks for pointers.

      That being said, you may have to settle for lower rates in the beginning just to get some work and experience. As you build a portfolio and rack up positive reviews, you'll be able to leverage those into higher and higher rates.

      I'd suggest setting up a profile at a freelancing site like Elance, paying for a WSO here on the forum, and working your way up the ranks.
      I'm with you on most of this though there is a major exception. If you're good you NEVER have to accept lower rates, ever. You might not get hired right away but that's okay. If you're good, put up a site and an impressive portfolio and then point high end clients to it. That's all there is to it.

      I got a dime a word straight out of the box and my writing was okay. As soon as you settle for less it tends to become a pattern and for many service providers, it's one that becomes impossible to break. DON'T SETTLE.
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      • Originally Posted by travlinguy View Post

        I'm with you on most of this though there is a major exception. If you're good you NEVER have to accept lower rates, ever. You might not get hired right away but that's okay. If you're good, put up a site and an impressive portfolio and then point high end clients to it. That's all there is to it.

        I got a dime a word straight out of the box and my writing was okay. As soon as you settle for less it tends to become a pattern and for many service providers, it's one that becomes impossible to break. DON'T SETTLE.
        Definitely. I was proposing that as a way "to get some...experience" and "build a portfolio".

        Most people aren't going to take your word that you're a good writer (unless you're just an outstanding marketer). You need to provide them with evidence.

        If you already have those things, you'll be able to command higher rates right off the bat.
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  • Your prices are too low if you're a good writer. They are too high if you're a poor writer.

    I've been freelance writing for about 4 years, and I do pretty well with it ($2000-3500 per month, part time). It is a good business, if you enjoy writing and researching and marketing yourself.

    Good luck

    Michael
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    • Profile picture of the author Olaleke
      Originally Posted by Michael Levanduski View Post

      Your prices are too low if you're a good writer. They are too high if you're a poor writer.

      I've been freelance writing for about 4 years, and I do pretty well with it ($2000-3500 per month, part time). It is a good business, if you enjoy writing and researching and marketing yourself.

      Good luck

      Michael
      Please,sir, could you outline the exact step-by-step procedure you undertake when you set out to write an article on topics you don't know anything about? I'd appreciate it very much if you could type it out on a text file for quick downloading. I'd like to try my hands in article writing, but I find I'm always stuck on EXACTLY what to do. Please, help me out...thanks in advance, sir!
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    • Profile picture of the author Wordsmith911
      Originally Posted by AnniePot View Post

      I was saying that if you are a strong, effective writer, you can charge significantly more than $40.
      Yes - he can. But, let's be more realistic here. The point here is that the competition is tough - pretty tough! More so for the "non-native" writers; because there are lots of clients who perhaps focus on the "native-English" factor more than they should. This eventually forces a lot of us to offer our services at a measly price. And by the way, it's much more damaging to our competitors from, let's say, countries like the US, UK, Oz or Canada".

      There are many freelance writers in countries like India and Philippines who wouldn't mind toiling away for a few scrapes of bread on their table. But, breads are a lot more expensive in most of the "first world", if you know what I mean.

      With more and more people seeking high-quality content at low price, I guess the need of the hour is to offer a flexible rate-card that targets multiple markets (I have written content at $20 per 250 words, $25 per 500/750/1000 words and occasionally, at less than $4 per 500 words too)
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      Originally Posted by travlinguy View Post

      I'm with you on most of this though there is a major exception. If you're good you NEVER have to accept lower rates, ever. You might not get hired right away but that's okay. If you're good, put up a site and an impressive portfolio and then point high end clients to it. That's all there is to it.
      That's a really good idea if he is willing to take that risk.
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
    Originally Posted by Stefanthekid View Post

    I want to start a website where I offer SEO articles for cheap prices. For example:
    400 word Articles= 10$
    1000 Word Articles= 20$
    2000 Word Articles = 35$

    The questions that I have for you are:
    1.) Do you believe these prices are reasonable? If not place your suggestion
    2.) How would I go about having people come to my website to ask for articles?
    3.) Would any of you want to join my team of writers?

    Please be as descriptive and detailed as possible in order to help me. Thank you in advance!
    1. For the people still buying "SEO articles", these prices are likely to be a little steep. Don't believe me? Check all the responses saying you can find good writers on Fiverr for half of what you propose.

    For people looking to buy quality content, they seem a bit low. As others have said, really good content in the hands of someone who knows how to use it is worth much more.

    2. Very selective paid advertising aimed at specific niche groups. You don't want to advertise general content services -- that puts you back in competition with the rest of the bottom dwellers.

    That's not to say that you can't serve multiple markets. You can. Just don't advertise everything to everybody and hope they find something they like.

    I poke a lot of fun at Florida lawyers, but one thing they do get right is targeting their ads to specific groups. They don't pitch personal injury suits to people contemplating divorce or bankruptcy. Nor do they pitch divorce to people in neck braces.

    3. You couldn't afford me.
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  • Profile picture of the author mjsing3r
    I started freelancing less than a year ago, and I pondered the idea of starting out at two cents a word. Ultimately, though, I decided to set my rates a little bit higher. I never had much of a problem finding clients who were willing to pay what I asked.

    I'm still not swamped with assignments, but I'm doing pretty well. After a few weeks of bidding for low-paying jobs on various sites, I finally landed my first private client. They paid me what I was asking for (a little more than three cents a word, or $16 for a 400-500 word article) and have continued to supply me with steady work up until this very day. I wasn't making enough from them to quit my day job, but I was almost there.

    Now I make a pretty decent living doing this stuff. I work primarily with four different clients who provide me with 80% of my work (I still dabble with bidding sites and other writing websites during my downtime). Except for my first client, all of them have been sent to me via referrals from an existing client. I've tried marketing myself as much as possible, but most of my work has basically landed in my lap because I turn in solid work and I'm pleasant to work with. My customers appreciate that and they tell their friends about me.

    I guess what I'm trying to say is that you should charge whatever you think you're worth. If you think you're a talented writer, you should charge more than $10 per article. If not, maybe that rate is appropriate for you.

    One thing to be careful of: a lot of these writers that start out at $10 (or less) per article have a hard time increasing their rates as time goes on. It's just my opinion, but I think there's a big difference between those who buy $5-$10 articles and those who pay $15 or more. Those clients who will pay at least $15 tend to care a lot more about quality and are willing to pay a little extra in order to increase their conversion rates. They're also more willing to stick with you when your rates increase (unlike the $5-$10 crowd, who will more than likely look elsewhere when you start charging more).

    That's just my opinion. I'm sure others will disagree. But if you think you can provide customers with high-quality writing and exceptional service, I'd recommend you start off by charging at least three cents per word. It's a nice, happy medium where you'll still be able to easily find clients but you won't be stuck in the bargain basement cesspool.

    Oh, and as far as getting potential clients to visit your website: I would keep posting on this forum as well as any other relevant forums, be active with social media, send out some "cold e-mails" to anyone you think might be interested in your services, and maybe consider posting a WSO right here on the Warrior Forum. My marketing skills are pretty basic, and I'll admit that I got somewhat lucky in landing my first client, but I think these methods work pretty well for just about anyone.

    I hope this was helpful. Best of luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author alice0987
    I guess this is fine in a situation, wherein the writers are either freshers or have very less experience in the field. Those who are really good at writing or have been writing for long now, would consider this as too less when matched with the proficiency they are providing.

    So yeah I believe if you are looking at great content from some good writers, then you would have to raise the bar a little if not more!
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  • Profile picture of the author James Druman
    Originally Posted by AnniePot View Post

    I strongly suggest you implement this WSO by John Coutts: http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...ml#post8263211 I have no affiliation whatsoever in the WSO, but having earned a living from writing for many years, I can attest to the brilliant information and advice it contains.

    BTW, I would also suggest that you DO NOT ever align yourself with Fiverr writers or yout writing career will be doomed from the start.
    This part about Fivver isn't necessarily true. I've tested $5 per 50 words on Fiverr, which comes to $50 for a 500 word article, and got bites pretty fast. Made some sales too.

    Nothing to retire on, but Fiverr does have some potential.

    I agree with everything else you've said in this thread though.
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  • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
    Just a short post. Two things you can do to stay out of the low end of the pool.

    Connect with Web developers/designers that are working for offline clients. Offer to be their "in house" writer. Offline people often don't know there are writers that work super cheap. There are hundreds of thousands of Web designers out there. You just need a handful. Your selling point is, as their in house writer they become a one stop shop for clients.

    If that doesn't appeal to you then get yourself a copy of Writer's Digest Writer's Market. That's where I got my first gig paying $.10/word gig. If you're on a budget you don't need the most current edition as much of it doesn't change. You can get the 2014 Kindle Ed. for ten bucks. It's loaded with publishers looking for decent writers.

    Do anything you need to to to stay clear of writing for small money.
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    • Profile picture of the author DConny1
      Disclaimer: I've never been paid to write.


      But here's a thought: Would it be wise to offer your services for FREE initially, in exchange for repeat business and referrals? Say you approach a site/brand and offer 2-3 600 word articles, with the conditions that they will pay you xxxx for further work (as well as referrals to their friends), if they find that you provide high quality value.

      Anyone care to chime in? ^
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      • Profile picture of the author PhilippaWrites
        Originally Posted by DConny1 View Post

        Disclaimer: I've never been paid to write.


        But here's a thought: Would it be wise to offer your services for FREE initially, in exchange for repeat business and referrals? Say you approach a site/brand and offer 2-3 600 word articles, with the conditions that they will pay you xxxx for further work (as well as referrals to their friends), if they find that you provide high quality value.

        Anyone care to chime in? ^
        I would advise against. Often, people who want freebies are reluctant to pay later. Don't let others undervalue what you do, and charge decent prices for what you are offering.

        The prices suggested in the first post are far too low for a decent writer, imho. Don't try to compete in the fiverr / elance fight-for-the-bottom mess. Show that you can provide top quality work and command prices that match.
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      • Profile picture of the author BradVert2013
        Originally Posted by DConny1 View Post

        Disclaimer: I've never been paid to write.


        But here's a thought: Would it be wise to offer your services for FREE initially, in exchange for repeat business and referrals? Say you approach a site/brand and offer 2-3 600 word articles, with the conditions that they will pay you xxxx for further work (as well as referrals to their friends), if they find that you provide high quality value.

        Anyone care to chime in? ^
        The kind of clients that will take those free articles will be very reluctant to pay for anything in the future. Further, why would anyone give their services away for free? I've never heard of a plumber, electrician, auto mechanic, etc give away their services for free in order to get repeat business and referrals.

        A writing service is no different than any other service. Just because you can get it cheaper elsewhere doesn't mean you also need to offer cheap prices. Yes, I can go to McDonald's and get a full meal for less than $10. But sometimes I want better, higher quality food. So I'll go to a nicer restaurant for a steak dinner that might cost $50 or more.

        You CAN be in the latter category equivalent to a fancy restaurant and charge a premium price, as long as you're offering a quality product. People WILL pay for it.
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
    I went back and read the opening post again, and I think most of us missed something.

    It look like the OP wants to be the middleman, buying articles from his "team of writers" and selling them on. Nothing wrong with that in itself, but I see problems ahead.

    Out of every $10 article, some goes to the writer, some to the OP as profit and some to marketing. Let's allow 20% for marketing and a 50/50 split of the remainder with the writer.

    That means that the OP has to sell $4 articles for $10. That could be a hard row to hoe.
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  • Profile picture of the author laurencewins
    Adding to John's comment, why would you want to run an article writing service if you don't even have a successful business of your own? You would need to check all quality going out as it's still YOUR name on the work. Also you have to share your income. Why do that when you can keep all you earn?
    I am a writer. I have had people ask to write for me and I have always refused. I have a certain standard and, whatever that is, it's mine...nobody else's so I can be confident in selling my services because I KNOW what I write.
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  • Profile picture of the author talfighel
    Your prices are OK but there are other people like you who offer for cheaper prices.

    Look at some of the prices on Elance and compare them with yours.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sam Zachuth
    As long as you have good examples, you can make a good living on places like freelancer and odesk. Forums like this one are great too! Your prices seem reasonable, but you would need examples for anyone here to be sure. No harm in sharing them here, it may line up some customers for you if you ever start a thread here!

    good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author jessicah
    Yes, the prices are reasonable, but you should make it worth. Write some high quality articles for that prices
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeffery Moss
    If you are a seriously talented writer, don't demean your own talent by listing your services on Fiverr. Find a very popular site specializing in written articles that allows you to set your own prices.
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  • Profile picture of the author uand
    The prices are reasonable, but it depends on the quality of writing. If your English isn't very good and you don't have much knowledge of SEO, then you are going to struggle as you will be competing against the bottom end of the scale. Take a look at sites like fiverr and you will find hundreds of writers prepared to work for a lot less than that, who already have established profiles.

    Often buyers will expect a lot and want to pay very little. I would start by setting up a website, which has links to pdf samples of your work, along with links to where they are published. You could write a blog yourself on the site, which will also demonstrate the quality ofyour writing. I would advise against giving out free samples, as often buyers try to get free content. They will use the sample and you will never hear from them again.
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    • Profile picture of the author Resource9
      The quality of the post is extremely important. People should like what they read and you will get the desired benefits. Its not the length of the article that matters, it is the quality that matters the most.
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  • Profile picture of the author dayus444
    Originally Posted by Stefanthekid View Post

    I want to start a website where I offer SEO articles for cheap prices. For example:
    400 word Articles= 10$
    1000 Word Articles= 20$
    2000 Word Articles = 35$

    The questions that I have for you are:
    1.) Do you believe these prices are reasonable? If not place your suggestion
    2.) How would I go about having people come to my website to ask for articles?
    3.) Would any of you want to join my team of writers?

    Please be as descriptive and detailed as possible in order to help me. Thank you in advance!
    I think it's not about the price but the quality of the artcles you write. Try to write a couple of free articles for some clients, so as to get some positive reviews and feedback, then you can continue from there. Good luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeffery Moss
    If you can provide solid examples of your writing quality to back up why you should be earning so much per article, then you are more likely to attract a high end client who does not mind paying so much.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
    I don't have a problem with higher prices for quality articles. But, where I see an issue is with buyers who have no clue what to do with a quality article. Uneducated content buyers, which seem to be plentiful, tend to group a $10 article with a $40 article and freak out at the price because they have no clue what to do with a $40 article or how to use and monetize it.

    That being said, if I where to get into the article writing business I would concentrate on [of course] building a list of prospects and the way in which I would do that is to write a high quality report educating people on how to use high quality articles to increase their business, etc.

    In the report I would also explain why cheap articles are actually hurting their business, etc, etc, etc...
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  • Profile picture of the author HighTechOcean
    I think you rate is high. In starting, You should work with normal rate.

    If you have website then do SEO and SMM i will definitely help you.

    After getting an experience you can increase your rate.

    Good Luck...
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  • Profile picture of the author Adie
    Depending on your target market, your price can be higher or cheaper. A $10 article is still competitive but if your competition is fiverr writers, this is a bit high. You need to find good paying customers.
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  • Profile picture of the author LegendaryGuy1
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    The prices are reasonable in some peoples eyes but you have to understand that many people can get these articles done for $5 compared to your $20-$35 articles. Unless you believe that your articles are of the highest quality, I recommend lowering the prices.

    However, I have found a better way to receive more than $100 each per client. Instead of writing website articles and blog posts, why don't you write kindle books for people or even sales letters. These are expensive and most of your clients will want to work with high cost workers because they need quality work done.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sarevok
    This is such a mighty topic of conjecture. (I love those!)

    Little secret: I've been ghostwriting for quite some time, and have had generated literally many dozens of elated clients. (And accompanying testimonials). - Now you might think "Many dozen... That's IT!!??" - Well, I prefer to work with a handful of clients who aren't henpecking curmudgeons, as opposed to a massive array who are just that.



    Often times I'll take work for less than what I'm worth, one time a client literally gave me twice as much cash for my work; because it totally kicked ass. (Yes, I'm confident mentioning that my content totally kicks ass. And no, I'm not accepting any clients haha).

    But, don't take my advice, I'm seriously a hippie tech nerd who often tells clients "Pay whatever you can". (You might think this is crazy... But over the years... I've helped people with IT stuff, told them to pay whatever they can, and they end up giving me 10x what I would have asked lol... Then again I honestly think that IT work has a higher perceived value than writing in many instances).

    No real story lesson here. Just one dude contributing a chaotic (and contrarian) two cents.
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