It's all about the money ain't it?

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Scuse me... pardon me... comin thru... thank you very much and now please allow me to be steppin up on this here soap box for just a moment...

Am I the only dadburn person who is sick and tired of all the lies and misrepresentations that folk in the IM biz tell each other? It's like we is all piranha in one big tank and all we do is feed off each other!

Guess how many times I been seein folks in this here forum askin for help on how to get themselves a pot full of money and if you look at their signature it says, "Follow me to the big pot of money!" I said GUESS, dadburnit!!! Well, there is a lot of em!

Folks, ole Thad is gonna tell you a great big secret but I do not want you tellin anyone else about it. This here is just between you and ole Thad! Shhhhh... the secret is that there is a big ole world out there just full of folks that is ready to buy stuff and they don't give an whiddlysniff about internet marketeering!

Them folks want to buy shoes and clothes and toys and fishin stuff like dynamite and jewelry and all sorts of thangs! Why are you wastin your time on sellin to each other?

You need to grow you some legs on your little piranha body and walk on over to the pond next door. Well, actually, I guess you would call it an ocean since it is so big! THAT is where you is gonna find you lots of fish to sell to!

This here reminds me of when my good friend Cletus went huntin with his good friend Homer. They was sittin round the fire when Cletus stood up and said, "Well, any folks round here ready to go do some huntin?" Wellsir, ole Homer jumped up and said, "I'm game!" and so Cletus shot him!

Mr. Rudyard Kipling once said, ""We're all islands shouting lies to each other across seas of misunderstanding."

Take from ole Thad's message what you want to take but just keep it in mind!

Ya'll come on back here, ya hear?
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  • Profile picture of the author KenJ
    You are so right Thaddaeus T. Hogg. I wish, however, I could write with your flair and character.
    I love the niches that other people do not ever consider or look at. It means that I have a lot less competition.

    Thanks

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  • Profile picture of the author Greg Ray
    Too funny, Thad!

    I'm laughing too hard to try and sell something now

    This is the very first thing I tell coaching clients - that there's lot's of 'ponds' to fish in - everyone doesn't need to be focused on the 'Big IM Lake'.

    Keep those words of wisdom comin'!
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  • Profile picture of the author sparrow
    Am I the only dadburn person who is sick and tired of all the lies and misrepresentations that folk in the IM biz tell each other? It's like we is all piranha in one big tank and all we do is feed off each other!
    Me too!

    Lots and Lots of misrepresentations going on out there darn digital incest

    Ed
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    • Profile picture of the author Andre Slater
      lol great writing...

      Your either a buyer or a seller and people buy what they want, not so much what they need. If your not selling someone else is.
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  • Profile picture of the author mrgoe
    IM is a niche like any other niches, and although I do agree with you, what you say there can be said in any other niches about info products. So you are a great fisherman, why sell lies to other fishermen when you could sell clothes ? Does that sound right ? because if you change the fishing niche with IM it`s basically exactly what you just said.
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    • Profile picture of the author Steve B
      Thad,

      Nice post and even nicer prose. I'm curious, are you selling a lot of products? Do you speak from consistent personal experience as a successful salesman?

      Because I have to tell you, your experience is not what I have experienced.

      Originally Posted by Thaddaeus T. Hogg View Post

      . . . the secret is that there is a big ole world out there just full of folks that is ready to buy stuff and they don't give an whiddlysniff about internet marketeering!
      You seem to be saying anyone without skill in selling should be able to make a killing by peddling physical products online outside the IM niche. I have not found that to be the case at all.

      Great sellers, in my experience, get that way because of the systems they set up with specific selling strategies, traffic generating plans, compelling copy, and a good secure payment system.

      Certainly, anyone can learn these things. Heck, some people stumble upon them and see success. Some do it by trial and error. Others learn via a mentor. Still others work at it for many years before they finally figure things out. All these successful sellers are doing the same things right.

      They may not call themselves internet marketers and may not claim to know anything about internet marketing . . . but . . . regardless of what you call it, if they are selling things and making a good profit they are doing internet marketing.

      I have found that buyers (consumers) are more discriminating than ever these days. With so many buyer choices and options online, most sellers don't have a clue about marketing and it shows in their results.

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    • Profile picture of the author Walter Cyclid
      Originally Posted by mrgoe View Post

      IM is a niche like any other niches, and although I do agree with you, what you say there can be said in any other niches about info products. So you are a great fisherman, why sell lies to other fishermen when you could sell clothes ? Does that sound right ? because if you change the fishing niche with IM it`s basically exactly what you just said.
      HUH??? That makes absolutely no sense at all. IMers lie all the time, both to each other and to their customers and potential customers. Fisherman don't sell lies. IMers do. You are comparing apples and oranges.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chri5123
    Awesome post!

    The Internet is just a medium of communication.

    There is no "Internet Marketing" so to speak - more "marketing using the Internet" - the markets and the "marketing" stay pretty much the same both online and off.

    A lot of people that do well at selling online come from a sales background, although you don't need too - it helps.
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Originally Posted by Thaddaeus T. Hogg View Post

      This here reminds me of when my good friend Cletus went huntin with his good friend Homer. They was sittin round the fire when Cletus stood up and said, "Well, any folks round here ready to go do some huntin?" Wellsir, ole Homer jumped up and said, "I'm game!" and so Cletus shot him!
      I was in the ER that night after one of my "fishin' lures" almost blew my hand clean off, and I heard the doc say that ol' Homer might have made it if Cletus hadn't a field dressed him before bringin' him in...

      Good post, Mr. Mayor.
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      • You seem to be saying anyone without skill in selling should be able to make a killing by peddling physical products online outside the IM niche. I have not found that to be the case at all.
        Well young fellar, let me ask you... would you go fishin without any bait? Nope! Would you play quarterback on an NFL team without studyin the playbook? Nope! Would you sip moonshine if it didn't have any rattlesnake venom in it? Nope! You see, if you don't know what your doin in the "make money online" niche then you might as well be fishin without a hook cause the results will be the same!

        Ole Myhatme Ghandi once said, "Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever."

        I was in the ER that night after one of my "fishin' lures" almost blew my hand clean off, and I heard the doc say that ol' Homer might have made it if Cletus hadn't a field dressed him before bringin' him in...

        Good post, Mr. Mayor.
        John, you old badger bait! I am beginnin to start thankin that you have a hillbilly ancestor hidin in the woodpile somewhere down the line! You had best be gettin on back to the holler where you belong!

        Thanks to all of you folks for your comments and ya'll take care!
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        • How about we let the blind lead the blind and you an' me go have a couple of beers?
          Wellsir, I don't be knowin bout you but Ole Thad ain't blind!"
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          • Profile picture of the author Chri5123
            Originally Posted by Thaddaeus T. Hogg View Post

            Wellsir, I don't be knowin bout you but Ole Thad ain't blind!"
            Thad, I don't whether this is marketing or NLP but I cannot read your posts without putting on my very best hillbilly accent.
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            • my very best hillbilly accent.
              Let me get this here straight... you are a hillbilly and you climbed somethin?!?!?!
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              • Profile picture of the author JavaMocha
                Originally Posted by Thaddaeus T. Hogg View Post

                Let me get this here straight... you are a hillbilly and you climbed somethin?!?!?!
                ...I don't think I've laughed so hard in a while.

                Oh, right... Heeelllooo World of Warriors!

                Although I do agree for the most part, people need to focus on those outside of the IM niche.

                However, there still needs to be a good influence within the IM niche to teach those people how to bait properly cus I saw a couple young bucks out by the ocean tossin in rocks think'n they'd catch some big fish...

                Oh darn, the hillbilly got me.
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  • Profile picture of the author Charmed Life
    Absolutely brilliant post!!!

    I completely agree with you; there are way too many people selling "make money on-line" products, who haven't got a clue how to make money on-line. How about we let the blind lead the blind and you an' me go have a couple of beers?
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  • Profile picture of the author Mack
    Yeeeeehaw!

    Well said, Thaddaeus. The ocean is quite nice.
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    • Profile picture of the author Wealthyclark
      It's been this way since the beginning and it's not going to change any time soon. People start out with good intentions, I think. When things don't work out the way they expected, they begin to notice a pattern and they learn to do to others what was just done to them. Lie, steal and cheat. It's the easy way out but it's also the road to destruction.
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    • Cletus shot that dude huh? LOL.
      Yep, he shore shot him alright! Didn't kill him though... Cletus never was much of a shot when it came to rifles! Now shot's of moonshine? Cain't no folks touch Ole Cletus there... well, ceptin myself!
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  • Profile picture of the author cyberzolo
    It is all about the moolah lol
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  • Profile picture of the author clever7
    Some marketers are really dangerous.





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  • Profile picture of the author M3C
    There's a very significant number of WSO's on this forum being provided by people who've never made a penny out side of WSO's they sell. Many haven't even made a penny from the technique in the WSO, they just regurgitate or plagurise , an often, now defunct technique.

    The WF is unfortunately full of newbies desperate to make money and swallow the BS hook line and sinker.

    That anybody still believes somebody proclaiming to make $20k a month is really wasting their time selling a $20 WSO is a truly sad state of affairs.

    Most of the so called marketers on this forum could barely afford to move out of moms..

    -- mini rant over.

    Good post OP, by the way.
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  • Profile picture of the author ErinWalsh
    Thaddeus you crack me up, but you have a good point. You stand a better chance of getting sales if you are selling things people already want, or they need.
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  • Profile picture of the author Romina82
    I was on the bandwagon when I started out...then after sometime you learn to distinguish the people that are there to help from the ones that are there to rob you out or scam you.
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  • Profile picture of the author pknerd
    As Seth Godin wrote: All marketers are Liars
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    • Originally Posted by pknerd View Post

      As Seth Godin wrote: All marketers are Liars
      That is a lie. I know few care about the truth but I know this statement is 100% a lie!
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      • Profile picture of the author pknerd
        Originally Posted by HelpingYouBeAnExpert View Post

        That is a lie. I know few care about the truth but I know this statement is 100% a lie!
        This is name of his Book. A must read
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        • Profile picture of the author gsinfovision
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          In IM big Piranhas sell dental products to baby piranhas so they grow sharp teeth super fast and become big Piranhas and repeat the same stuff... So, I guess its all fair in love and war (I mean Piranha war).
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  • Profile picture of the author GuruGazette
    I mainly lurk these days cause I'm too busy playing in the ocean. Love threads like this though
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    • Profile picture of the author Devid Farah
      Sell what's ALREADY selling, just offer DIFFERENT solutions!

      Sometimes i really dont get why some people waste their time to find the most obscure niches when there are markets that have already been shown to convert like crazy!

      Btw great post Thaddaeus.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jeannie Crabtree
        Thad could tell you some ways, but here is one if you have a wordpress blog. install prettylink plug in.

        Tip: Next time, you probably need to post your question as your own post, in the proper section.

        Originally Posted by nau098 View Post

        Hi,

        Is there any method to track traffic which is coming through affiliate links?
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        • Originally Posted by Jeannie Crabtree View Post

          Thad could tell you some ways, but here is one if you have a wordpress blog. install prettylink plug in.

          Tip: Next time, you probably need to post your question as your own post, in the proper section.
          Jeannie, my mostest friendly and helpful friend, I ain't seen you around there here parts very much either! As for ole Thad, I been spendin a lot of time up at the still... I mean coffee pot. I been brewin up some mighty potent... ummm... coffee! Mine is caffeine free but it does have a touch of rattlesnake venom in it!

          It shore is good seein you again and I hope you can drop by the holler and sit a spell on ole Thad's front porch!
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeannie Crabtree
    Good advice Thaddaeus. Havn't seen you post in a while. Glad to see you come out of the woods once in a while and set us straight.

    Now don't start in on my sig file... I am trying to help everybody, not just the IMers. LOL.
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  • Profile picture of the author manolo2
    All marketers are liars I don't know that I agree with that
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  • Profile picture of the author David Mcalorum
    There are lots of people out there who completely misrepresent their offers
    and promise the moon and stars. Most, are working full time jobs and don't do
    this for a living.

    That's one side of the story.

    Two sides of the coin usually exist.
    (At least it is my personal philosophy)

    And for the dark side, there is also another side too.
    There is actually LEGIT people out there with LEGIT
    opportunities that actually work.

    With that being said, not every opportunity is a good fit for
    the people being pitched. As everyone has a different skill set,
    and everyone has a certain work ethic.

    But, if you can find something that you feel good about,
    STICK WITH IT and GO HARD, there should be no reason why
    you too, can't be successful.

    I think you are only limited by your own mind.
    Anything is possible. I just think most people settle
    with living a life of mediocrity.
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  • Profile picture of the author RowenaFanning
    You make a good point, but I learnt that where there is a shortcut to be taken, someone will try and take it. I too am tired of people trying to get the gist of what it took me years and a lot of reading to know.
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  • Profile picture of the author sarah23
    Lovely words Thad
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