Question about Article Marketing

by ofesak
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Which one is better way to submit spinned articles?

Way #1. Spin original article 1 time (to get extra one unique article) and submit it to about 10 articles catalogs at one time (when it is still unique).

Way #2. Spin original article 10 times (for each catalog) and submit unique one to each catalog.

Of course, approach 2 is obviously better, but it is more cost-consuming as well. My question is to ask if there are real reasons to do it by way #2, or first approach is still working good for article marketers?
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  • Profile picture of the author Wealthyclark
    Way #3 Don't spin your articles, write high quality articles and others will post them on their blogs/websites. This is a much better option and will give you much better results in terms of backlinks and traffic.

    This might not be what you want to hear but it's the right way to do things if you want long term success.

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    • Profile picture of the author cyberzolo
      Originally Posted by Wealthyclark View Post

      Way #3 Don't spin your articles, write high quality articles and others will post them on their blogs/websites. This is a much better option and will give you much better results in terms of backlinks and traffic.

      This might not be what you want to hear but it's the right way to do things if you want long term success.

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      Hahaha that's the truth. Spinning content produces terrible content plus half the time it doesn't even look like it is written by a human being.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    Don't spin your articles. For what? The content will suck, and how will you build a solid business with poor content? You think folks will click on Adsense ads despite the fact that they hated reading an old spun article that doesn't make sense? Come on yo, don't do it.
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    • Profile picture of the author savidge4
      Come on yo, don't do it? if you are taking about publishing spun content 10 times maybe!

      Write 1 article put it on YOUR Site, Repeat 1000 times a year, THAT is content marketing. And if the whole idea here is to create traffic for AdSense, why bother?

      Originally Posted by Randall Magwood View Post

      Don't spin your articles. For what? The content will suck, and how will you build a solid business with poor content? You think folks will click on Adsense ads despite the fact that they hated reading an old spun article that doesn't make sense? Come on yo, don't do it.
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  • Profile picture of the author ncloud
    I'm new to internet marketing, but this is not the first time I've heard more experienced marketers advise not to spin your articles. I sure would like to know what the problem is with spinning articles. I realize that some article spinners really suck from what I hear and produce crappy articles that don't read well. But, I have also heard of a few spinners that are really good and can produce articles that do read well and can pass copyscape.

    Is there something else I'm missing, because it seems to me that way #2 would be the best way to go. I mean, as long as your articles are well written, read well, and are unique enough to pass copyscape, what's the problem? Is there some other reason why spinning articles is so frowned upon these days? I would think you would save a LOT of time by spinning the articles that you're going to submit to article catalogs, rather than writing brand new articles each time.

    Of course you want to make sure your articles are well written and read well, so that people will post them on their blogs or websites with a link back to yours. But, the other reason for doing article marketing is that each spin you have at these article catalogs has a chance of ranking in the search engines. If you spin your original 1 time and submit the spun version to 10 article catalogs then you only have 1 chance of ranking in the search engines because 9 of the 10 will be seen as duplicate content by Google. But, 10 spins, with 10 different unique versions going to 10 different article catalogs - that would give you 10 chances to rank in the search engines. At least that's my understanding.
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  • Spinning articles is frowned upon because for long term success, it sucks. If you want to stand out in your market and get noticed, write good content yourself, it doesn't take much.
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  • Profile picture of the author ncloud
    But why does spinning articles have to suck? I thought what we were doing with these spinner tools was rewording our sentences and using different synonyms. If our original article was written well, and we worked hard to rewrite/reword each sentence and use different synonyms I would think we could create some more quality articles from it.
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    • Profile picture of the author webmonopoly
      Originally Posted by ncloud View Post

      But why does spinning articles have to suck? I thought what we were doing with these spinner tools was rewording our sentences and using different synonyms. If our original article was written well, and we worked hard to rewrite/reword each sentence and use different synonyms I would think we could create some more quality articles from it.
      Why are you article marketing in the first place???? The whole point of article marketing is to have other webmasters find your article on a directory and want to re-post it on their own high quality website.

      You don't stand a chance if your submitting crap, these website owners will jump right over your spun article.

      Im fairly confused as to why you would spin your articles at all. How does a spun article benefit you? If your trying to build backlinks this is the worst thing you could do.
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  • You're right, these spinning tools reword your sentences using synonyms, but what happens is it turns your article to mush. If you can write just one article on a subject, then why not write more articles yourself?

    The articles that have been SPUN will never really work IF you want your content to sell. Times are changing, content marketing is the way forward, consumers are looking for TRUST and authority, and if you can supply a regular stream of good quality content that helps and informs these consumers, you'll become a major player in whatever market you wish to target.

    Creating spun articles of an original article won't cut it...not now, not ever. NOT ANY MORE.

    That's my take on this anyway, I'm sure others will agree and disagree. My advice to you is to start writing your own content that helps, teaches and informs your readers, that's what you should be aiming for with Article/Content/Inbound marketing.

    As the famous Zig Ziglar once said:

    “If You Help Enough People Get What They Want, They Will In Turn Help You Get Everything You Want"
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  • Profile picture of the author webmonopoly
    Way #3 (only way that will do you any good), Don't spin. Post your article to your site first, then repost the same, unspun article to high quality directories.
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    • Profile picture of the author ofesak
      Originally Posted by webmonopoly View Post

      Way #3 (only way that will do you any good), Don't spin. Post your article to your site first, then repost the same, unspun article to high quality directories.
      But, do you understand that it will be a duplicated content on that all directories? And high-quality directories can ban you for that.

      To my opinion this is best idea, which ncloud says. Is it not true?
      But, 10 spins, with 10 different unique versions going to 10 different article catalogs - that would give you 10 chances to rank in the search engines. At least that's my understanding.
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      • Profile picture of the author ofesak
        Quote (below) from this link I found:
        Top Article Directories with High PageRank and Traffic for 2014

        I no longer submit the same article to more than one article directory; instead, I submit original, non-duplicate content to each "Google favorite" article directory, each with a unique resource box. Yes, this takes a lot of time, but the results prove that it is worth it.
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      • Profile picture of the author webmonopoly
        Originally Posted by ofesak View Post

        But, do you understand that it will be a duplicated content on that all directories? And high-quality directories can ban you for that.

        To my opinion this is best idea, which ncloud says. Is it not true?
        Buddy, not sure where your getting your info. Spinning content is useless. The only way to get ahead these days is with quality content.

        And having the same article on multiple directories is not duplicated content, its called syndicated. Duplicate content only stands when you have the same content more then once on the same website.

        That's all I'm going to say, I'll let you make your decision. I hope you continue spinning your content and others follow you, that way my content will continue to stand out and outrank all yours.
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      • Profile picture of the author Wealthyclark
        [QUOTE=ofesak;9094975]But, do you understand that it will be a duplicated content on that all directories? And high-quality directories can ban you for that.QUOTE]

        Well, why not post unique content to them exclusively. If these directories are of high quality as you say, you will surly reap great rewards by having your one naturally written article posted there.

        The real key is to provide value, by spinning your articles you are publishing the same content multiple times. The only difference is the wording, now how is that providing value? It's not!

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  • Profile picture of the author gsinfovision
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    Originally Posted by ofesak View Post

    Which one is better way to submit spinned articles?

    Way #1. Spin original article 1 time (to get extra one unique article) and submit it to about 10 articles catalogs at one time (when it is still unique).

    Way #2. Spin original article 10 times (for each catalog) and submit unique one to each catalog.

    Of course, approach 2 is obviously better, but it is more cost-consuming as well. My question is to ask if there are real reasons to do it by way #2, or first approach is still working good for article marketers?
    Haven't you heard of the monster whose name starts with a "G"?

    Don't spin your articles - write them.

    But, if you at all have to spin them for whatever purposes, why not do HTML spinning. The text would read excellent, but the Keywords won't rank. But then, spun text wouldn't help you with your rankings much, so why not give your readers something good to read and spin using an HTML spinner - just my 2 cents.
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    • Profile picture of the author Steve B
      ofesak, ncloud, gsinfovision,

      Spinning articles is never the answer, regardless of how you do it, HTML or otherwise.

      Do the article directories want spun articles? No. Never.

      Do the search engines want spun articles? No. Never.

      Do your readers want spun articles? No. Never.

      Do you want spun articles attributed to and pointing back to you? No. Never.

      Spinning merely gives your articles quantity - and always lower quality. In essence, it allows you to spread more garbage around the net. Is that desirable for a business person? Never. Quality always trumps quantity - always!

      One original high quality article is worth 100 crappy spun articles.

      You don't understand duplicate content. Put your original high quality content on your web site, attributed to you and get it indexed. Then every time this same content pops up on other sites in your niche (whether by syndication or otherwise) feel happy that you are getting additional exposure.

      There is a myth about Google not indexing (even penalizing) duplicate content. Google doesn't want to see duplicate content on the same site.

      Try this: Google "instruction and advice for the young bride"

      It's a hilarious article published in 1894. You'll find it indexed by Google thousands of times all across the net - the exact same article.

      So the point of all this is simply that spinning content is not in anyone's best interest and it will hurt your business in both the short- and long-term. Having your own original high quality content popping up all over the Internet - even the same exact content - is great!

      Just don't spin. Ever!

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  • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
    Spinning articles is a bad idea because even people without much education see spun articles as inferior. People looking for information don't waste their time wading through mucky content. Business success is about providing quality through every step of customer interaction. When you lead with something inferior most people ignore you because they realize you're more about you than them.

    I'd really like to have someone who thinks spinning articles is a smart strategy show me a few really successful marketers that have made their success doing it. You can't. Even back when Google allowed this to happen wholesale there were only a few people getting over with spinning. Those days are long gone.

    I've been here going on six years. I can't remember a single WSO or any other offer that featured article spinning as the magic dust. That's because it's a bad strategy. If you think spinning articles is a good marketing method, knock yourself out. Then come back and tell us how you were successful doing it. I won't hold my breath.
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  • Profile picture of the author Wax
    Originally Posted by ofesak View Post

    Which one is better way to submit spinned articles?

    Way #1. Spin original article 1 time (to get extra one unique article) and submit it to about 10 articles catalogs at one time (when it is still unique).

    Way #2. Spin original article 10 times (for each catalog) and submit unique one to each catalog.

    Of course, approach 2 is obviously better, but it is more cost-consuming as well. My question is to ask if there are real reasons to do it by way #2, or first approach is still working good for article marketers?

    If you're spinning articles, you're always going to want to spend time on each one.

    The best tactic for article submission is to spin one really well, and then generate a lot of them, and finally, manually sort through each one. Find the ones that make the most sense and submit those.

    Another option is to write or pay someone to write each and every article, but we all know that can be incredibly time consuming // expensive.
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  • Profile picture of the author richard79
    If I'm struggling to think about what to write, I will sometimes use PLR, BUT only to get an idea for the article I want to write.

    I then make a list of 'bullet' points using the PLR article as a guide and then completely rewrite the article from scratch in my own words and style by using my bullet list as a guide.

    I posted about this on my blog
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      Marketers who fully understand the real power of real Article Marketing have actually been doing exceptionally well in driving massive floods of highly convertible traffic.

      It has never been a viable marketing model to game the search engines by spinning articles (ie submitting massive quantities of semi-coherent text to article directories). This dysfunctional method, widely termed "article marketing", is not about articles and certainly is not marketing.

      The time-proven method for generating direct response traffic has simply been to write real articles, intended for real people, and submit them to real publications.

      Those who have fallen for the mania of Google ranking by polluting the internet with keyword-laden garbage have quite often failed miserably. An excellent classic that has become increasingly more relevant and timely with Google's ongoing algorithm changes is Turn Words Into Traffic, by Jim and Dallas Edwards.
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      • Profile picture of the author alexapamten
        You can't spin the articles otherwise your website reputation will be ruined. First of all, rather than an article you can concentrate on your own website's blog, but if you don't have then you can write interesting and unique content for every article post.
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        • Profile picture of the author vickybabe
          I dare you to send one of these articles to a high value blog for a guest post and see what reaction you get

          Moral of the story: DON'T spin articles

          Nuff said
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  • Profile picture of the author Rob Maggs
    It's all about how you tackle it, you can use an automated spinner but the content will always be below standard...or if you are clever about it you you can create an article and manually rewrite with spintax...sure it will take a while (I use Dragon Naturally speaking) but if you spend a little time you can have a load of quality unique articles that Google will love.

    My 2 cents...if you're gonna spin do it manual...
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  • Profile picture of the author Marketeranas
    Do not ever go for spinning articles ! It can give you results for a limited time but if you are looking for a continuous business only write original article by yourself !
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  • Profile picture of the author bighostchennai
    ..Google penalize for more than 40% of content appears duplicate, you can change upto 150 words in 500 words just rephrasing.. then it would be 100% readable articles, it will have good chance of traffic generation through it..as you know spinners mostly make article scrappy and meaningless..

    There are some service who do auto posting of spinned article at very cheap rate or even for free, you can go for them; in my case it generated good amount of traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kevin242
    As tempting as it is, don't bother spinning articles, but make them 100% unique legitimate content. Treat each article you create as gold. It is better to spend an hour creating one quality article with backlinks and value to attract more clients.
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  • Profile picture of the author NicoleBeckett
    Originally Posted by ofesak View Post

    Which one is better way to submit spinned articles?
    The best way to submit these articles is actually a 3-step process:

    1. Print out spun article

    2. Toss in toilet

    3. Flush


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  • Profile picture of the author TheArticlePros
    Originally Posted by ofesak View Post

    Of course, approach 2 is obviously better, but it is more cost-consuming as well. My question is to ask if there are real reasons to do it by way #2, or first approach is still working good for article marketers?
    You have two things always that you can barter or trade: Time & money. You work hard in any business endeavour to build up a third thing: Reputation.
    • Spending time, working hard, creating high quality content (articles/movies/images/etc.) will pay off with building up your reputation, which in turn will bring in more money for you long-term.
    • Spending money smartly by hiring content creators and producers who are good at their craft, and then having a dedicated plan to distribute the items to have their best effect, will in turn create more time for you by bringing in more money.
    • Spending little time and little money, which is what your OP sounds like you want to do, may possibly bring in money quickly, but will destroy your reputation, causing you to waste more time and money to rebuild it.

    TLDR version:
    • Time + Hard Work = Good Money, More Time, Good Rep
    • Money + Smart Work = More Money + More Time + Good Rep
    • Get Rich Quick = No Rep, Wasted Money, Wasted Time

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  • Profile picture of the author QWE
    Originally Posted by ofesak View Post

    Which one is better way to submit spinned articles?

    Way #1. Spin original article 1 time (to get extra one unique article) and submit it to about 10 articles catalogs at one time (when it is still unique).

    Way #2. Spin original article 10 times (for each catalog) and submit unique one to each catalog.

    Of course, approach 2 is obviously better, but it is more cost-consuming as well. My question is to ask if there are real reasons to do it by way #2, or first approach is still working good for article marketers?
    Spinning leaves footprint. Google has warned against spinning. We have tested the ranking effects of spun articles vs. unique articles. The overall rankings improved once we removed spinning.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dex88
    I have been doing article spinning as well before and I have found like most people here have already confirmed it is really not as effected as freshly written articles. Anyway, if any of you needs some help with your articles, just leave me a message.
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  • Profile picture of the author SeoHoist
    I would suggest writing original article upto 700 words. Add image as well as video related to niche and then you can rewrite whole content and resubmit to 10 directories or categories.
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