Autoresponders that are not internet marketing friendly

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Am I correct in saying that both Mailchimp and Mad Mimi are not internet marketing friendly autoresponders?

In their terms and conditions they say that they don't allow emails in the make money online or work from home niches. They also don't like blatant affiliate marketing.

Now the problem here of course is knowing where the line is:

1. Where is the line that blatant affiliate marketing starts - is it at their discretion?

2. Where is the line that make money online or work from home emails start? For example, would they permit a wordpress plug-in for pop-ups or something like that.

It's hard to know what is allowed by these two. The thing is, I like mailchimp and mad mimi - so should I risk starting my lists with these autoresponders?

If not, then what autoresponders should I choose, ideally one that is internet marketing friendly and with a high deliverability rate; is it just aweber or getresponse that I have to choose between?

I know imnica is cheaper but there are question marks over its deliverability and then there is listwire which is free but the interface maybe is not so user-friendly and there are issues with lists being used by the company itself.

Apologies for another autoresponder thread by the way - but I am focusing on the specifics of internet marketer friendly autoresponders
#autoresponders #friendly #internet #marketing
  • Profile picture of the author valmillercorl
    They don't tell you the line - Mailchimp cut me off with no warning and I hadn't done anything that was make money online at all! And they never told me why - there was nothing I could do. I don't know about Mad mimi but I use GetReposne - go where the internet marketers go - otherwise you take a huge risk.

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  • Profile picture of the author Trent Pill
    I would also second GetResponse. Although I have never used them many people also say Aweber is good.
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  • Profile picture of the author salegurus
    Mailchimp has it in their TOS that IM is not welcomed.
    Also there is an all in one here: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...te-thread.html
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    • Profile picture of the author Max Anderson
      Have heard terrible things about mail chimp, too!

      Better stay away!
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      • I started with MailChamp then I move on to Aweber and finally Get Response. My opinion is GetResponse is the most affiliate friendly.
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        • Profile picture of the author Max Anderson
          Originally Posted by Worldvoiceequality View Post

          I started with MailChamp then I move on to Aweber and finally Get Response. My opinion is GetResponse is the most affiliate friendly.
          I use Getresponse myself, however I would recommend aweber to most people since it is more user friendly.
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  • Profile picture of the author FreddieMixell
    I think the problem is MailChimp has a free option which has allowed tons of spammers to get there start with email marketing.

    If you're a paying customer I think MailChimp is more lenient, at least in my experience.
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  • Profile picture of the author roger123
    Getresponse and aweber are definitely the email marketing tools of choice for me
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    • Profile picture of the author Nathan251
      Is it true that GetResponse makes double opt-ins obligatory?

      If so this would hit conversion rates and less clicks would turn into subscribers
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      • Profile picture of the author jasonvthomas
        Originally Posted by Nathan251 View Post

        Is it true that GetResponse makes double opt-ins obligatory?

        If so this would hit conversion rates and less clicks would turn into subscribers

        Double optin is not necessarry in Getresponse, but in Aweber it is as far as i believe.

        But i sincerely advice you to choose the double optins or you'll be building a very unresponsive list.
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        • Profile picture of the author David Whitfield
          Originally Posted by jasonvthomas View Post

          Double optin is not necessarry in Getresponse, but in Aweber it is as far as i believe.

          But i sincerely advice you to choose the double optins or you'll be building a very unresponsive list.
          Many people are now setting AWEBER accounts up with single optins.. Seems to be normal and within the process of setting your list, you control is it is double or single optin.

          One technique to consider is to filter your list or segment it according to responsiveness, so that you send more info to those opening your mails.
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  • Profile picture of the author Malteaser
    Nathan, I was actually writing a blog post about autoresponders today and one of the most valuable things you should learn is this... your list is your ATM machine (LITERALLY!) so invest in a good tool (that costs money I'm afraid) and build your list with that. GetResponse and AWeber are by far the best and you get some cool tools with them. I personally use AWeber and cannot complain
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  • Profile picture of the author luvtrees
    Mailchimp doesn't want to you to use your list for anything remotely IM. I had loaded a set of newsletters on there, and one of them contained a word that they didn't like, "mortgage". They told me I needed to backup my list and move somewhere else. The newsletters were all informational too. This was years ago when they were a new service, I'm sure they are probably even more strict now.

    Aweber seems to be fine with anything.
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    • Profile picture of the author heavysm
      I'm guessing that madmimi is just cautious ambivalent depending on your spam complaints. If you have low complaints then they don't care, but if those complaints rise you better bet on them either warning you or temporarily shutting you down.

      Don't think about using them for lists of over 50k though. You will be severely limited on how often you can send out since their servers aren't that strong. I believe you can send out maximum of 10 full broadcasts per month to lists of 50k+.

      Most big marketers send at least once per day if not more, so Madmimi is more for those marketers who can afford less aggressive email broadcasts.
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  • Profile picture of the author johnnsmith
    I am currently using a new email marketing software GarudaIM, which is quite easy to operate and having a good working autoresponder feature.
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  • Profile picture of the author rakhwas
    I would say that Aweber get a lot of the mails to the Leads spam box.
    Get Response is the by far best solution, of my opinion
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  • Profile picture of the author DoubleOhDave
    MailPoet's a pretty good free option if you set up your SMTP properly...
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