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I'm curious about the path that successful people in IM take. Did you have mentors? Learn it all on your own? Fail a bunch of times until you struck gold?

I've dabbled a bit in IM here and there, and have seen marginal success. Nothing to brag about. I bring a lot of technical skills to the table but am not that great at, well, actually MARKETING. Yet. But, I am determined to master it! I'm thinking that I need to find a mentor in order to get better at the marketing side of things.

Can anyone offer some stories about their path to success, or some advice?

Thanks!
#finding #mentor
  • Profile picture of the author rakhwas
    I can give you some advices.

    1. Get a mentor, the feedback he can give you from your stuff make your things more High Quality, and gives you a lot of experience faster.

    2. Keep working like you would die if you didn't, seriously people think that online marketing is some over night scheme, but really its hard work and dedication to success.

    3. Get the right mindset, don't jump around buying different things, stick to one thing until you master it, then move to something else, twist it and combine it.

    Hope you can use the advices :p
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    • Profile picture of the author baliharish
      Originally Posted by rakhwas View Post

      I can give you some advices.

      1. Get a mentor, the feedback he can give you from your stuff make your things more High Quality, and gives you a lot of experience faster.

      2. Keep working like you would die if you didn't, seriously people think that online marketing is some over night scheme, but really its hard work and dedication to success.

      3. Get the right mindset, don't jump around buying different things, stick to one thing until you master it, then move to something else, twist it and combine it.

      Hope you can use the advices :p
      Hello

      I have liked your point number 3. I think i am making this mistake of trying to do or buy many things at the same time and landing up gaining some knowledge of every thing - which seems to be wrong strategy.

      thanks
      harish bali
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  • Profile picture of the author StanHyeck
    Pretty much everything Rakhwas said is exactly how I would answer those same questions.

    About the only thing I would add is that when you get a Mentor you have to remember the person isn't psychic. If they say, "go do X, Y, and Z" they won't know you've done it until you come back and say, "that's done what next."

    Success is YOUR responsibility, not your mentors.
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  • Profile picture of the author DoubleOhDave
    I have mentors - but they don't know it. We are friends on Facebook and I learn a lot from them (I have about 10).. I find the education and support I have got from them surpasses many training courses I have bought! And it doesn't cost $497 for their time. Plus, from time to time they learn something from me, so it swings both ways!
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    • One of my students gave me a testimonial a few weeks back. He is very young talented individual and he leaves a testimony sayin:

      "I can guarantee that he is a real mind driven man and he didn't make any money from me. I didn't join any of his business but he still coach me until I have truly know the lessons to make money online. For me, it's this: there is no secret to make money online. You almost know everything to start your journey but you just need someone to push and mentor you.
      If you need that person, choose Joe."

      Not trying to self promote here but, that is the power of having a mentor. I have a couple of mastermind groups and a mentor, and even a few mentors that I follow on podcasts and even spiritual mentors like going to church.

      We all pretty much know how to chase our dreams and goals but we all need a push on those tough times and someone to look up to

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      • Profile picture of the author baliharish
        Originally Posted by Joseph Villanueva View Post

        One of my students gave me a testimonial a few weeks back. He is very young talented individual and he leaves a testimony sayin:

        "I can guarantee that he is a real mind driven man and he didn't make any money from me. I didn't join any of his business but he still coach me until I have truly know the lessons to make money online. For me, it's this: there is no secret to make money online. You almost know everything to start your journey but you just need someone to push and mentor you.
        If you need that person, choose Joe."

        Not trying to self promote here but, that is the power of having a mentor. I have a couple of mastermind groups and a mentor, and even a few mentors that I follow on podcasts and even spiritual mentors like going to church.

        We all pretty much know how to chase our dreams and goals but we all need a push on those tough times and someone to look up to

        Joe
        i think there are people who are generous to help free of cost, as they like sharing lot of their useful experiences in their blog posts. if you do a google search of blooger tips tricks you will find ankit there. i have met him in person few days back, as he belongs to delhi and i am also from delhi. he shares lot of useful tips for blogging and affiliate marketing. well if you are able to find out few more people like him, please share, it will benefit.

        thanks
        harish bali
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        • Profile picture of the author Jason Stewart
          One thing I have been thinking about lately is... What is better? The fast road to success? Or the slow road to success. On one hand having a mentor can prevent you from making mistakes, but on the other hand making mistakes can make you way more successful in the long run if you can learn valuable lessons from them....
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    • Profile picture of the author Derek Felton
      Originally Posted by DoubleOhDave View Post

      I have mentors - but they don't know it. We are friends on Facebook and I learn a lot from them (I have about 10).. I find the education and support I have got from them surpasses many training courses I have bought! And it doesn't cost $497 for their time. Plus, from time to time they learn something from me, so it swings both ways!
      Ah yeah, distance learning! ;-) I utilize it, too... while also trying to contribute to other's learning, too.
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      • Profile picture of the author asiamaria
        Do any of you guys have any recommendations on a mentor?

        Been doing IM a while now and still finding it hard to focus.

        Struggling with the stuff that needs doing to make money now and stuff that I really want to do going forward.

        Also knowing which tasks are the most profitable to work on.

        Would be nice to have an experienced pair of eyes to look at what I'm doing/not doing what skills and resources I have and suggest possible strategies, plans and leverage points to help me.

        Grateful for any input

        MS
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  • Profile picture of the author talfighel
    The best type of marketing out there is the ones that will work for you. That is why you have to test different techniques and sources all the time because while some of these techniques work for one marketer, does not mean it will work for you too.

    You just have to test and test all the time to see what works BEST for you.
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  • Profile picture of the author jamescanz
    Originally Posted by Jason Stewart View Post

    I'm curious about the path that successful people in IM take. Did you have mentors?
    Always always always !

    (having a mentor that is)

    I am a firm believer in always having one.

    I've seen nothing but 'fast movement' because of doing so...

    And I believe most can do the same

    Originally Posted by Jason Stewart View Post

    Can anyone offer some stories about their path to success, or some advice?
    Without giving any specifics...

    I'd say going from 6 months of wasted time and losing out on a lot of money...

    To consistently making "a good mount" of money
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Tandan
    Yes, a mentor is key. But FIRST, establish what niche you want to pursue. Otherwise once you start searching for a coach you'll be very open to every niche that a solid coach operates in. So select an area you want to get involved with, THEN search for mentors specific to that area. Will save you a bunch of time.
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  • Profile picture of the author Frankalex
    Every successful Internet Marketer has had a mentor.

    Always go for a mentor because you will learn way faster then doing it yourself.
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  • Profile picture of the author carcin0genic
    I learn every day so I can continue to serve people at the highest level. I started trying to learn it all on my own.

    Eventually I looked for help form someone who'd been through the ringer and found someone. I used his knowledge and business model to find my own way.

    Figure out what you need to learn next, or ask, andonce you get your answer, go out and apply it.

    Most people gt stuck in learn mode too long. Learn, do , teach. Over and over again. You'll build knowledge, experience, and credibility faster than you might expect. It's all about reverse engineering people who will allow you to

    hope that helps,

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  • Profile picture of the author Lani
    I started by myself, learned the hard way. Few years ago got myself a business partner who has been in internet marketing for very long time. After two years, I am still learning alot from him.

    Mentor or even good skype group with right people will help you to learn faster
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  • Profile picture of the author rawandrew
    If you truly want to succeed online don't get a mentor. Get an apprenticeship.

    I don't believe anybody making big bucks will be willing to be your mentor. The people that do don't teach. Only those that can't do teach. Of course there are a few exceptions, but too few to really mention. Plus the guys that "walk the talk" usually retire from teaching because they make more money doing it.

    Find somebody that is truly successful at what you want to do, do a background check on them to find out if they are "legit" and go work for them. But get a job that requires constant contact with them. You'll learn more by watching them in action and going through the decision process than from 100 mentors. It is far better to see how something is done than to hear about how it is done.

    I can describe to you in minute details how to assemble a car engine, but if you would go to a mechanic and watched/helped him do it, you will know how to do it a whole lot faster. Plus you will be able to do it on your own.
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  • Profile picture of the author drlelong
    Once you find the right mentor, your whole business will change, and in a few months, you'll be able to look back and see the exact day when everything started to come together for you.

    I highly encourage you to seek out "shadow" mentors who you basically shadow and reverse engineer their success as well as considering finding a mentor who can give you step-by-step assignments.

    Finding both made all the difference for me.
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  • Profile picture of the author foxtrot3
    It won't happen overnight but you have to keep at it.

    I've been fooling around with IM for 5 or 6 years, doing a little of this then a little of that and the most I've made in a month is fifty bucks. So the obvious answer to me is to find something that interests you (CPA, Amazon, whatever) and stick with it until you either see some results or you go nuts. Work at one game plan steadily for at least 6 weeks. Find a mentor if you can.

    I'm currently in the 2nd week of a coaching program called the Quick Start Challenge. So far it's been fun and educational. Too soon to tell if it will produce the desired results, but time will tell.
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    • Profile picture of the author Stephen Williams
      Originally Posted by foxtrot3 View Post

      It won't happen overnight but you have to keep at it.

      I've been fooling around with IM for 5 or 6 years, doing a little of this then a little of that and the most I've made in a month is fifty bucks. So the obvious answer to me is to find something that interests you (CPA, Amazon, whatever) and stick with it until you either see some results or you go nuts. Work at one game plan steadily for at least 6 weeks. Find a mentor if you can.

      I'm currently in the 2nd week of a coaching program called the Quick Start Challenge. So far it's been fun and educational. Too soon to tell if it will produce the desired results, but time will tell.
      That's the problem.

      Most people just "fool around" online for years.

      I wouldn't advise anything else, but creating something of value for free.
      Send traffic to an opt in page and build a list while giving away free value.

      Then once your doing this, getting subscribers
      work on creating a video/audio version of your free
      product that you can sell on the thank you page.

      Now you have a business.

      Then work on creating up-sells and breaking even on your front end.

      Now you have a scale-able business.
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  • Profile picture of the author sprice
    There really is nothing quite like having a mentor. Someone to guide you and motivate you. Whether they know they are your mentor or not.

    It can be a total wake up call at times.
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  • Profile picture of the author JacobS
    The best thing I ever did was to go work for a startup that had less than 10 employees. The owner was a serial entrepreneur who took me under his wing and taught me so much.
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    • Profile picture of the author heavysm
      Save your money, don't buy WSO's and just look around and examine which of the many coaches here on the forum (or elsewhere for that matter) you think you would get the most benefit from.

      If you need some guidance just PM me for a detailed assessment of your situation. I don't mind pointing you toward those who can help you
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  • Profile picture of the author Anoopchawla
    It is possible to make it in IM without a mentor, however by having a mentor you can achieve success much more quickly.

    BTW, the right mentor will help you find what is right for you and guide you how to make money using your particular passion and strength.

    You have been a WF member since 2010 so I believe you already have strengths and expertise that you don't know about it and that can be valuable to others.
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  • Profile picture of the author Marco Moeschter
    I vote for a mentor as well. I tried a lot already while doing IM and I was going in all directions without having a real direction. Than I decided okay I need somebody who did all this as well but did it with success. So I looked for a mentor and to be honest I tried a few guys before I found a real one who walks the walk. I got focused and clear about what my direction is.

    There are a lot so called mentors out there but it is difficult to find the right guy but it's totally worth it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Stewart
    Thank you for all of your responses. I'm leaning toward seeking out a mentor. I've been trying to find successful marketers (not marginally successful, but heavy hitters) and dissect their habits, rather than their methods. I think that this is the secret to success! Find out how and what they do every day.

    I've also gotten a flood of solicitations for mentorship in my email. for some reason they're not ending up in my PM box.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alice12345
    Yeah, mentor is great. But you will need a good altitude and action taker!

    From my experience, friend can always be your mentor. Find more valuable friend and hey, it does not even cost a penny!
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  • Profile picture of the author Malteaser
    Finding a mentor willing to help you in IM is KEY!!! It is more important than finding an actual product. If you model and get taught from someone who has been there before and who is already making one hell of an income online, you cannot really go wrong
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  • Profile picture of the author Caden
    Hmmm.... I like your way of doing things DoubleohDave. I am going to get mentors that way. Very cool.
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  • Profile picture of the author bmoore62
    One thing I've learned over the past many years of trying to make it online is that you absolutely need a mentor (my opinion). You need somebody to hold you accountable and to learn from someone who has actually been there, done that.

    I've gone from product launch to product launch thinking I could figure it all out on my own, only to end up even more confused than ever.

    I've been in some coaching programs, and I consider myself somewhat experienced in FTP, uploading a WordPress blog, setting up an autoresponder list, etc. But at the end of the day, I'd be thinking, "Okay, how does this all translate into a business? What's missing?" That's always been the frustrating part.

    So I'd go back to the web and buy more and more shiny objects thinking that would be the answer. But it never was. It just made me more confused as to where to start.

    I'm in a program now that's beginning to totally turn that around for me. Once I realized I needed guidance, things started to change. They will for you, too.

    There's no shame in realizing that once in a while you need help. My advice is that a mentor, whether that's a "guru" you trust or just someone to hold you accountable, is the way to go.

    Keep me updated on your progress.

    To your success,
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    • Profile picture of the author LearningChinese
      Originally Posted by bmoore62 View Post


      I've gone from product launch to product launch thinking I could figure it all out on my own, only to end up even more confused than ever.
      ...
      So I'd go back to the web and buy more and more shiny objects thinking that would be the answer. But it never was. It just made me more confused as to where to start.


      Bob
      Ifound that that really resonated with me Bob. I've had a mentor in other aspects but not in online marketing, and I think that's why struggled so much. Painfully so.

      So I agree with everyone here that a mentor is always good and any new endeavor especially when there's a lot of information overload. Of course this begs the question: how can you pick a mentor when you're not sure who to trust!?
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  • Profile picture of the author vikash_kumar
    Found my mentor too....As of now, I am feeling lucky to finding him, as I am finding myself that I am on the right track. He is giving some very valuable insights not only in the field of IM but in the area of life itself.

    I know that in the field of IM or for that matter anywhere else in any endeavor, people only understand the value of a mentor when some results are there for the backing of what he received or able to receive from his mentoring

    I will certainly post my results in very near future. Wish me luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author onpointinfo
    A mentor is invaluable, I have used consultants, coaches, mentors in the past for different things. You either spend the money now for a good mentor or pay the price for not using one ........either way you pay, however, not using one can be a very costly decision as you will make more costly mistakes amounting into the hundreds and $1,000's of dollars.

    If you can afford it, I would recommend using 1 on 1 coaching or email based coaching what ever you can afford to do, if not able to do so then do it as soon as you can in order to avoid costly mistakes and cut down your learning curve time big time.

    I have used both types of coaching 1 on 1 phone based and email based ones too !
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    • Profile picture of the author Devilfish168
      one website check already have..

      sEO check already paid for some doing.but not on monthly basics..

      still can't earn much..


      so my question is...can a mentor continue guide me from here?

      i don't want to change yet promote other things...

      just want to concentrate what I have done...
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  • Profile picture of the author andybeveridge
    Never be afraid to invest in yourself it was the turning point for me. Do make sure your future mentor is working in the areas that interest you though.
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  • Originally Posted by Jason Stewart View Post

    Can anyone offer some stories about their path to success, or some advice?
    IM has a lot of Opportunities today. Infact most of us keep jumping from one opportunity to another without exploring the opportunity in detail. This was a problem with me also earlier and was stuck, spent a lot of money on different courses but was unable to get the best out of anything.

    I was lucky to get a very good mentor and after that my life changed. Keep some of these points in mind before getting any coaching:
    1. What is the coach offering?
    2. How is the support?
    3. Is there any trail offered to check methodology?

    Let me know if you need any help
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  • Profile picture of the author Trey Morgan
    I believe getting a mentor is a great idea. Choosing a mentor allows you to learn a specific style of marketing without any contradiction. When you don't have a mentor you tend to learn from many different people and sources who all may have a different style or marketing strategy.
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  • Profile picture of the author JCorp
    Originally Posted by Jason Stewart View Post

    I'm curious about the path that successful people in IM take. Did you have mentors? Learn it all on your own? Fail a bunch of times until you struck gold?

    I've dabbled a bit in IM here and there, and have seen marginal success. Nothing to brag about. I bring a lot of technical skills to the table but am not that great at, well, actually MARKETING. Yet. But, I am determined to master it! I'm thinking that I need to find a mentor in order to get better at the marketing side of things.

    Can anyone offer some stories about their path to success, or some advice?

    Thanks!

    You're on the right track my friend. When I first got going in business in '04, I struggled for many months. I bought courses and thought I could do it on my own. Many people can because they either grew up with the self-starter mentallity/attitude or they developed it.... but I didn't have either.

    So I struggled. After many months of going full time with no results to speak of, I knew that I had to get more "personalized help", even if it was just email access to someone successful in my field. I got that person. Email only mentoring. Within weeks, I had made my first profits. I'll say that I knew the methods, I knew the strategies and I had the knowledge, but I just needed that confidence of a mentor and the guidance that they can provide. That's really where the value of a mentor or coach comes in.

    So my advice... get as much knowledge as you can about the specific subject you're interested in. And if you're a self-starter, just do it. Get the wheels turning and then maybe you can hire someone to help take you to the next level.

    If you're not that self-starter, then look for a mentor or coach. The right one will be worth a lot to you down the road.
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  • Profile picture of the author Eyonathan
    Mentors definitely play a role in your success. They show you and teach you exactly what you need to do, however, whether you do it or not, it's all up to you.

    Mentors teach you what to do, but you are the one who will be working. How hard you work plays much bigger role in your success. I'm a little guilty myself, because my mentor is probably one of the best I've seen but I slack off a lot. My progress isn't as fast as my other peers.
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  • I dabbled in IM off and on over the years but just couldn't get the grasp of it. Seemed too complicated for me.

    I'm now getting back into ebay because I enjoy it and I have a friend who I view as my mentor because of his guidance and words of advice that have been very helpful to me
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  • Profile picture of the author onpointinfo
    When I came online ... I struggled with SEO back 6 years ago, and SEO was hot back then, since it was easier back then to rank your website on the search engines doing SEO to your website, it is harder now to rank your website now, but can be done just takes more time, and go for long tail keywords, also known as the low hanging fruit, or the less competitive ones to rank for in the 1st 3 pages of google.

    I hired me a SEO coach, and never looked back, and he cleared up for me the areas I was struggling with, then I hired other people in other areas I was weak at.

    Each time I spent money, I saved time and money, thereafter !

    Look for coaches on warrior forum... they are right here, and see who praises them with testimonials or bad mouths them, the prospective coach that gets good testimonials now are a potential coach and the one that got a lot of bad comments then this is a no brainer on what to do, skip to the next one !
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  • Profile picture of the author C G
    My path was simple but not easy.

    I made the mistake of trying to figure everything out by myself. This lead to tons of failures.

    I became successful when i hired a coach and followed his action plan.

    The process is as follows:
    - Hire a popular coach
    - Follow exactly what he tells you to do
    - Take massive action
    - Once you profit and get use to IM.. You can start creating

    Cheers,

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  • Profile picture of the author malik4u7861
    I suggest he Omar martin is the best Mentor on online marketing
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  • Profile picture of the author Sam Zachuth
    A few things about success in business:
    • One succeeds mainly through perseverance.
    • Dabblers do not make money, you need to pick something and move with it.
    • Marketing is the key to success, but only once you have built something (at least half) worth marketing. You can't sell something you aren't marketing to a large audience, no matter if it is good or junk.
    • A mentor is not needed, but critical thinking skills are. (sadly uncommon in today's world)
    • Having a mentor will afford you a lot of "free info", in a better way than reading 1000 ebooks on the topics, but will not be as satisfying to some.
    Take it from someone who learned everything himself and the hard way, it is tough! If you aren't ready to think dynamically and jump in face first alone, then get a mentor.



    I actually offered my own mentoring in this forum somewhere last month. No real serious takers, just dabblers and lamebrains. No good mentor will coach someone not worth their time, dabblers or quitters. Just keep that in mind, as the time investment is like a money investment. A good mentor understands there must be "quid pro quo".


    The offer still stands, for anyone who is serious about their success and whom is willing to offer what they have in return for the guidance. Feel free to hit me up if you want help with marketing and building a business.


    -Sam





    Originally Posted by Jason Stewart View Post

    I'm curious about the path that successful people in IM take. Did you have mentors? Learn it all on your own? Fail a bunch of times until you struck gold?

    I've dabbled a bit in IM here and there, and have seen marginal success. Nothing to brag about. I bring a lot of technical skills to the table but am not that great at, well, actually MARKETING. Yet. But, I am determined to master it! I'm thinking that I need to find a mentor in order to get better at the marketing side of things.

    Can anyone offer some stories about their path to success, or some advice?

    Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author chrishall89
    Hi! I'm Chris and I am an affiliate of The Six Figure Mentors. If you are looking for a mentor that will help you to learn more about Internet Marketing, then check out our site (https://connect.thesixfigurementors....id=chrishall89)

    Yes, you need to register and pay for a mentor that will teach you lots of interesting things about Internet Marketing but I'm not forcing you to pay right away. You can check it out first and think of it.

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  • Profile picture of the author Entreventurer
    Originally Posted by Jason Stewart View Post

    I'm curious about the path that successful people in IM take. Did you have mentors?
    ...
    Yes, I have one. Probably the best one so far. He is very young, but already famous and exceptionally knowledgeable. I'd even say he is the real "no fake" guru. And the best part is you don't have to pay him a dime for mentoring. His name is Mr. G.
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  • Profile picture of the author mikeu1
    finding a mentor is the best thing to do it will short cut you to a much faster success and make your life 100 times easier.
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  • Profile picture of the author DURABLEOILCOM
    I mentor anyone in the US and Canada.
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  • Profile picture of the author AffEngineer
    Honestly, for me it was just relentless, stubborn action. Just never give up. I know it sounds cliche but it's true. If you keep trying, keep building campaign, niche sites, videos or whatever method you choose to make money, it's only a matter of time until you get good enough to break through. I would suggest getting a coach or signing up to a good paid forum so you can get feedback on your endeavors. That will definitely hasten your path to success.
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    • Profile picture of the author arny660
      I think that finding, and working with, a really good mentor is vitially important in your quest to succeed online.

      Yes, you can do it alone, but it would probably take much, much longer to succeed, and it would probably cost you a lot more money in the long run. It may seem expensive initially, but you will almost certainly save money (and time).

      A word of caution, however, shop around and do tons of research before parting with your hard-earned cash. Like everything in life, you get good ones and bad ones. Read as many reviews about them as you can, and also make sure that you could work with them. The person you are looking at may be a really good mentor, but if you are not compatible with them, they will be of very little use to you.

      A mentor that I use, and would highly recommend, is John Thornhill. I would suggest you check him out. You will find nothing but great reports about him.

      Also, here is an article that you may want to have a look at:
      Should You Get A Mentor? | Arny McCleary
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    • Profile picture of the author Crowsnest
      I totally agree that a mentor in the right niche, with good experience, can save you so much time. Why struggle making mistake after mistake yourself (as I did), when an experienced mentor can guide down a path of what works.
      Before I found some guidance through the Quick Start Challenge, I was suffering from the dreaded "information overload", which I think is so easy to due to the shear volume of advice/information/tips/strategies etc.
      I realise that it's not easy finding a mentor, as you need someone who you can really relate to.
      Good luck in your search.
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    • Profile picture of the author AnnaPaterson
      i also agree with rakhwas and other users. you definitely need someone to guid you, but you also need to know what you want to do and look around at war others are doing, you will learn a lot about the market.
      stept by step you are going to master the things
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  • Profile picture of the author Nuno
    I'm a certified Professor, have all the knowledge and experience to be a full-time mentor, but even so I decided to create partnerships instead. Why?
    Because some people need the extra support when teaching and motivating aren't enough. It's time consuming but well worth it after things are flowing.
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    I have 15+ years of experience & millions of visitors (I'm also a warrior since 2002)!
    NunoAlex.com explains how I can help.
    I'm looking for a limited number of serious partners.
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  • Profile picture of the author naidyphoon
    A mentor can accelerate your growth exponentially, as they have the benefit of hindsight. Make sure when choosing a mentor you look for two things :

    1.) They've achieved results that you wish to emulate.

    2.) The methods that they teach are the methods that they use themselves.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nightengale
    I'm a DIY kind of person and my recommendation is always 1) buy a comprehensive IM course first and then, if necessary, 2) hire a coach. (I've done both and spent a pretty penny doing it.)

    Too many Warriors resist spending any money and try to squeak by with $17 e-books. The problem is that they just want to buy a single $17 e-book and make millions from what they learn. But no $17 e-book is going to teach you all you need to know.

    Also, e-books tend to focus on a single tactic or method, not the big picture, a comprehensive plan for making money online. Thus, Warriors get lost in the weeds, can't see the forest for the trees and end up shelling a bunch of money ($17 e-books one after the other add up!) and are more confused than ever.

    There are all different levels of "mentoring" at all different price points:

    1. Book -- $20-$40 (Don't laugh. A book is often an excellent mentor with fantastic recommendations for further resources.)

    2. Report/CD -- $20-$97

    3. Course -- $97 -- $5,000

    4. Workshop/Seminar -- $100 -- $10,000

    5. Mentoring/Coaching (group and 1-on-1) -- $500 -- infinity

    These numbers are general, but designed to show you where they fit on the ladder.

    Decide what niche you want to pursue. Then start with Google and do a search. See what the best books are. Who are the experts in the field? Who's published a course on the subject? Buy them. If you like it, consider their coaching program, if they offer it.

    Big tip: you will get a lot more out of coaching/mentoring if you have the foundation of a homestudy course or two under your belt. Coaching can be expensive and often, you can learn a lot more info from a course than you could directly from a coach because you simply can't afford all of the time it would take to feed you all of that info. So buy a course first to get the foundation and then hire a coach to answer questions, help you refine your biz etc.

    It's the financially smart way to do it. And often, you can "get lucky": you'll buy a homestudy course with some coaching attached (like in the form of group Q&A calls). This is an AWESOME hybrid solution.

    I understand feeling overwhelmed and the desire for a mentor to guide you. I've done it all: bought books, courses ($1500 - $3000), gone to workshops and seminars ($1,000+) and have an AWESOME business coach ($12.5k).

    Hope this helps!

    Michelle
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  • Profile picture of the author flyingdutch
    Let me throw in my 2cts.

    I only started recently in IM . Just about 5-6 months ago. As always when I enter a new field, I start with.. studying. That's what I did the first 2 months. It became quickly clear that IM is a vast topic and that I had to pick 1 or 2 things to get started, amongst the dozens of things you can do. (affiliate marketing, website, building a list, creating your own product(s), writing ebooks, WSO's , Ebay, Amazon affiliate, etc.etc.). My approach in life has always been (with reasonable success every time): Do something, but do it good. If you start with 10 things at the same time it will not work. So I picked Ebooks, because I like writing. Published my first title 1st of April followed by 3 other titles. Sales are ok. At least, in line with my expectations. Made it even into the hot releases on Amazon (That's not a big deal for those that may be wondering)

    Have 10 titles lined up.

    At the same time, I will HAVE to tackle the marketing side of it. Again, studied first the subject with blogs, forums, books. And when I read most of this I realized that I'm already way ahead of the competition. Notice that I'm a strong believer in the 80/20 rule. 80% of your results will be made with 20% of your actions.

    Back to the mentor. When I have published my first 10 titles, what would a mentor still going to learn me?

    Another important point: I think I can say that I'm a very honest person. Maybe to honest for this business. Take book reviews. There are oodles of tricks to boost your book reviews. Review swaps, promising goodies for positive reviews, writing to professional reviewers or even buying book reviews. I'm not into all of that.

    Similar for my website. I have no "backlinking strategy" in place because the whole concept of backlinks was to reward sites that got natural ones. So I refrain from any tactic, grey or blackhat, to boost visitors or sales or whatever. Yes, I realize that that's a severe handicap to get to the top on this business, but at my age, "getting to the top" is not on the top of my concerns.

    So what is a mentor going to teach me? How to build backlinks? How to buy reviews? how to do guest blogging and what have you? I know how this all works (I even write about it in my books, always with the disclaimer that you should/can use these strategies on your own risk), but what will a mentor learn me?

    Next question: How do you find a mentor? And I mean, someone who really EXCELS in his subject?

    Next question: How are these people generally rewarded? A stake of the profits (if any). No cure no pay? Hourly rate? Fixed price?

    My next venture (after my Ebooks business), might be to dig deeper into my list building activities. Yes, I know, having a list of 10.000 subscribers would have helped my Ebooks business, but I can only tackle one thing at the time. That's on the planning from September onwards. For the moment, people are just dripping in on my list. I have nothing to sell apart from my books.

    To resume: My vision is to first master your subject at a 60-70% level. And from what I've seen, this is not rocket science we're talking about. It just takes time and we all have only 24 hours in a day. Than, if that sorts of flies, you can maybe think of putting in higher gear through a mentor.

    Or maybe I'm completely wrong?? still learning....
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  • Profile picture of the author squidface
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    i have to seriously question anyone actually offering mentoring. I know "but I love to teach/help, etc. But the fact is it doesn't add up. If they are so good then spend more time on their businesses as apposed to teaching others. Unless, of course, that is their business.
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  • Yes i agree with all of you about mentoring. My advise is go with reference.

    If someone has got benefited from mentoring, then ask them for their mentor and get coached. It would help.

    Earlier i also had similar problem and had wasted a lot of money on different courses and coaching. But when i got the right mentor, my life changed. Today i make living online before of the coaching.
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    • Profile picture of the author bdpop
      Finding a mentor is crucial. But finding the right mentor is the trick. Sometimes it just doesn't fit. For me personally, I look for someone who can both kick me in the a#* when I need it but also pat me on the back when appropriate. There are many who are good at the former....

      On the other hand, as several others have pointed out, in the end it is all up to you. You cannot expect any mentor, no matter how comfortable you may feel with him or her, to do things for you. If you are going to succeed you must be willing to take action.

      It's just easier to do that when you know it's ok to make mistakes and that someone is going to help you learn from them.
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      • Profile picture of the author aunttee
        Originally Posted by bdpop View Post

        Finding a mentor is crucial. But finding the right mentor is the trick. Sometimes it just doesn't fit.
        Excellent point!
        I have seen several warriors I'd like to approach for mentoring (for them to mentor me) but not sure if that's appropriate; if they aren't actively pursuing guru status they might just think I'm weird

        And with a number of published books doing well, and websites trickling in a little income, not sure if I need a mentor or perhaps that swift kick. But I'd still like to have a mentor. Maybe I should go talk to the mirror.
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  • Profile picture of the author mcolumb
    Well, still someone can recommend a good mentor that offers coaching now?
    Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author trump7
    Yes finding a mentor is a good thinking but I think you are already joined the right place to learn about internet marketing i.e. warrior forum. You can discuss all you have in mind with the experience mentors here and learn a lot from them.
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  • Profile picture of the author SteveSRS
    never pay for a coach / mentor who himself/herself doesn't have a huge and good reputation.

    The #1 asset you buy when taking on a coach is the ability to connect to his network.
    The knowledge, accountability are always available for much cheaper. They are 'just' an extra you get.

    Also I'd highly recommend to take on a coach not to far away from you the more you can meet up in person the value will exponentially increase.
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