Help me to understand IM traffic

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Hello all,

I have been researching IM for a few months now and have a few websites started. Now I'm having trouble getting targeted traffic to my sites and I think i'm trying to learn to much.... information overload......
I am trying to understand how to effectively get traffic to my site and what is the best ways to do it with low cost... I haven't much cash right now and haven't made anything with IM yet... I'm not giving up I just need some guidance to what i''m trying to learn. I have been reading way to much on different topics and i'm driving myself insane. Part of that is to keep my mind off my divorce... but some of it makes sense and most of it doesn't. I am using click bank on one of my sites. I know there's a lot more i can write here but i'll leave it at that for now.
#traffic #understand
  • Profile picture of the author Sarevok
    Jason don't feel bad. :]

    Traffic is where EVERYONE Fights.

    There's something I always say...

    And that's EVEN if you give away gold bricks... Without traffic nobody will ever see the offer right?

    As far as tactics for getting traffic...

    It looks like you're in the IM niche? One thing you can do is continue to post on the warriorforum.

    It's possible to get a TON of traffic here, as long as you offer high quality content.

    I know from personal experience, that when I help people here, my traffic gets a boost.

    Another thing you might consider is building a following.

    (I see you're into list building) - keep that going.

    It's MUCH EASIER to command a bucketload of traffic if you have a social media following - so build one of your own.

    Build a following EVERYWHERE.

    (I build a following on Twitter, Facebook Group, Skype Group, LinkedIn, heck even Tumblr and WordPress).

    Sorry for this long rant.

    One more tip? - Create content that totally kicks ass.

    I've noticed that my average blog gets shared OVER 30 times.

    That's some of the best traffic I'll ever get - because it comes from real live humans, and it's free.

    (Paid traffic is another discussion, and I believe you asked for FREE traffic methods... So this is my thesis).

    Any more questions feel free to ask, and good luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author JasonLD
    Thanks Sarevok. when you talk about social media? ie facebook, twitter..... Does that mean i should use my existing facebook and twitter? or make a new facebook and twitter account for my niche? also i was asking about low cost traffic along with free traffic. how is fiverr for using peoples services for targeted traffic?
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    • Profile picture of the author Sarevok
      Jason, good questions.

      I used to be one of those guys who had a DIFFERENT account for everything...

      I don't believe this method is sustainable, so now I just have ONE ACCOUNT for everything.

      (meaning ONE facebook, ONE twitter, ONE LinkedIn, ONE tumblr, etc)...

      This might not be the best strategy, but tactically it's VERY easy.

      :]

      (as a nerdy chess player, I'm all about smart tactics - even at the expense of genius strategy)...

      Also, beware of Fiverr traffic, because I think there's a lot of junk on there.

      That being said, I happen to be a tier two seller, and I have sold LEGIT social media bumps on Fiverr with great success.

      (This is NOT self promotion, because I currently am not offering this service)...

      Also remember - everything I have mentioned is just my opinion...

      I tend to be very awkward in my tendencies, so maybe they're not the best for you?

      My advice - figure out what type of strategy makes the most sense for you personally, and have at it... Because at the end of the day it's ALL about your ability to remain consistent... So what I'm trying to tell you is select whichever methodology which will result in your ability to remain consistent... Indefinitely.

      Hope this helps...

      Originally Posted by JasonLD View Post

      Thanks Sarevok. when you talk about social media? ie facebook, twitter..... Does that mean i should use my existing facebook and twitter? or make a new facebook and twitter account for my niche? also i was asking about low cost traffic along with free traffic. how is fiverr for using peoples services for targeted traffic?
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      • Profile picture of the author JasonLD
        Originally Posted by zoltane View Post

        I would recommend list building to create an audience, then you can leverage that traffic and access it any time you want to. You can also try fb or twitter, it doesn't need to be an autoresponder.
        I am trying to do list building but haven't even got 1 subscriber yet and it's been about a month since i put that site up. in my signature is the site for listbuilding. I want to get some kind of income rolling already.. Not to get rich quick either...
        Originally Posted by Sarevok View Post

        Jason, good questions.

        I used to be one of those guys who had a DIFFERENT account for everything...

        I don't believe this method is sustainable, so now I just have ONE ACCOUNT for everything.

        (meaning ONE facebook, ONE twitter, ONE LinkedIn, ONE tumblr, etc)...

        This might not be the best strategy, but tactically it's VERY easy.

        :]

        (as a nerdy chess player, I'm all about smart tactics - even at the expense of genius strategy)...

        Also, beware of Fiverr traffic, because I think there's a lot of junk on there.

        That being said, I happen to be a tier two seller, and I have sold LEGIT social media bumps on Fiverr with great success.

        (This is NOT self promotion, because I currently am not offering this service)...

        Also remember - everything I have mentioned is just my opinion...

        I tend to be very awkward in my tendencies, so maybe they're not the best for you?

        My advice - figure out what type of strategy makes the most sense for you personally, and have at it... Because at the end of the day it's ALL about your ability to remain consistent... So what I'm trying to tell you is select whichever methodology which will result in your ability to remain consistent... Indefinitely.

        Hope this helps...
        as far as a strategy goes, I need to understand what i'm doing before i can pick a strategy and i'm not having much luck right now. do you use your personal facebook and twitter? what do you do? promote on it? i'm confused with using the social media for IM.. or AM.
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  • Profile picture of the author K Meier
    Sorry to hear about your divorce.

    Internet Marketing and places like Warrior Forum can be a vicious cycle for starters. I think I spent over $5000 in useless products over the years. Each time I get sucked into that NEW SUPER POWERFUL METHOD THAT GENERATED $15,000 PER MONTH. It sounds good in theory, you sign up, you try it out, you suddenly realize you have to invest so much time and money than originally thought. You keep reading up on how this can work, you get too much information and end up having and information overload and by that stage you find yourself again on the Warrior Forum looking at other methods that advertise themselves as the next super hit. And then it starts all over.

    Problem is, you gotta stick with something that can actually create you some sort of business and stay away from the get rich quick schemes, they never EVER work, and if they do, it's only for the original creator of that product. Once he sells off the information, it will become saturated immediately.

    If you tell us a bit more about how exactly you are trying to create your online business, some might give you more specific help.
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    • Profile picture of the author zoltane
      I would recommend list building to create an audience, then you can leverage that traffic and access it any time you want to. You can also try fb or twitter, it doesn't need to be an autoresponder.
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    • Profile picture of the author Devilfish168
      Originally Posted by K Meier View Post

      Sorry to hear about your divorce.

      Internet Marketing and places like Warrior Forum can be a vicious cycle for starters. I think I spent over $5000 in useless products over the years. Each time I get sucked into that NEW SUPER POWERFUL METHOD THAT GENERATED $15,000 PER MONTH. It sounds good in theory, you sign up, you try it out, you suddenly realize you have to invest so much time and money than originally thought. You keep reading up on how this can work, you get too much information and end up having and information overload and by that stage you find yourself again on the Warrior Forum looking at other methods that advertise themselves as the next super hit. And then it starts all over.

      Problem is, you gotta stick with something that can actually create you some sort of business and stay away from the get rich quick schemes, they never EVER work, and if they do, it's only for the original creator of that product. Once he sells off the information, it will become saturated immediately.

      If you tell us a bit more about how exactly you are trying to create your online business, some might give you more specific help.
      gee i also like that..brought some useless tools etc..but haven't reach 5K .

      so already earn back your 5K ?
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    • Profile picture of the author JasonLD
      Originally Posted by K Meier View Post

      Sorry to hear about your divorce.

      Internet Marketing and places like Warrior Forum can be a vicious cycle for starters. I think I spent over $5000 in useless products over the years. Each time I get sucked into that NEW SUPER POWERFUL METHOD THAT GENERATED $15,000 PER MONTH. It sounds good in theory, you sign up, you try it out, you suddenly realize you have to invest so much time and money than originally thought. You keep reading up on how this can work, you get too much information and end up having and information overload and by that stage you find yourself again on the Warrior Forum looking at other methods that advertise themselves as the next super hit. And then it starts all over.

      Problem is, you gotta stick with something that can actually create you some sort of business and stay away from the get rich quick schemes, they never EVER work, and if they do, it's only for the original creator of that product. Once he sells off the information, it will become saturated immediately.

      If you tell us a bit more about how exactly you are trying to create your online business, some might give you more specific help.
      Thanks for your apologies on my divorce....It's not easy going through something like this, especially when it's not your choice..
      onto the subject at hand..... I have the list building site that is in my sig. no success yet.... I also have another site that i just got up and running. It's an auto blog with click bank products. not sure if i'm allowed to put the link here... but if you want to check it out it's amsupertips.com. I hope i'm not breaking any rules here by putting my website link in. I just want you guys to check it out and let me know what you think of it or if i should change anything? i'm using cb goliath plugin. any advice or suggestions on anything will be greatly appreciated!
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    • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
      Originally Posted by K Meier View Post

      Sorry to hear about your divorce.

      Internet Marketing and places like Warrior Forum can be a vicious cycle for starters. I think I spent over $5000 in useless products over the years. Each time I get sucked into that NEW SUPER POWERFUL METHOD THAT GENERATED $15,000 PER MONTH. It sounds good in theory, you sign up, you try it out, you suddenly realize you have to invest so much time and money than originally thought. You keep reading up on how this can work, you get too much information and end up having and information overload and by that stage you find yourself again on the Warrior Forum looking at other methods that advertise themselves as the next super hit. And then it starts all over.

      Problem is, you gotta stick with something that can actually create you some sort of business and stay away from the get rich quick schemes, they never EVER work, and if they do, it's only for the original creator of that product. Once he sells off the information, it will become saturated immediately.

      If you tell us a bit more about how exactly you are trying to create your online business, some might give you more specific help.
      I have to ask, how is it you get "sucked in" to anything? Then you say, "you suddenly realize you have to invest so much time and money than originally thought." If you want good things, it's going to take time and some money to get them.

      I'm not going to mention any one ad specifically but the banners I see here make me laugh. Many of them promise stuff they couldn't ever deliver. The sooner you get your bullshit force field activated the better off you'll be.

      You say you've spent over $5000 on useless products. Okay. Why? Doesn't there come a light bulb moment when that little voice inside you says, ENOUGH!

      I know several people who've spent less than $100 to get started and are now earning $10,000 a month. BUT, it doesn't happen overnight.

      Here's a tip. Pick a market you like. Something you enjoy doing. A hobby maybe. The gurus will chant about keywords and keyword research and finding a desperate market and the hottest profitable niche and all the rest of their baloney. That stuff is fine for an individual who has learned how to make money.

      But for most people, getting started means you NEED to pick something you know and like. Why? Because you're going to be up close and personal with it for a while and if it's something you're doing based only on profit and not something you at least like, you're going to drop out when the next shiny object comes flashing by. Why? Because you find the "hot & profitable" niche boring. You hate having to sit down to do it and find dozens of ways to flake out like Facebook or any number of other distractions. That won't happen if you're doing something you're passionate about.

      Take it from someone who has been there.
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  • Profile picture of the author Stuart Walker
    Instead of promoting to your own (quite limited) social media groups and other audiences or waiting until they are slowly built up over years you should be 'hacking' into other peoples audiences.

    One of the best things any marketer can do is to network like mad with other in the niche and any influential people.

    Get interacting on social media, chatting on email, blog commenting, participating in forums of those who have a big following already.

    Get known to them. Share their stuff. Help them. Do something cool for them for free. Ego bait them. Send them a guest post. Comment on their posts with REALLY in-depth comments that break down their posts. Do something controversial to get their attention. Link to them. Interview them.

    Over time you will build relationships with people (it takes less time than you might think tbh) and they will return the favor and share your stuff or link to you...

    ..BUT only IF your content / offer / whatever you are offering is REALLY good.

    No matter what you do if your stuff is garbage they won't tarnish their reputation by sharing low quality content with their audience.

    So firstly you need top notch content then secondly get networking like mad.

    It's all well and good trying to build your own audience up naturally but that takes a lot of time. Tap into other peoples in the mean while.

    Also make sure you are where your target audience is online - blogs, forums, social media hubs or wherever they hang out and get your ads and / or content in front of them in whatever way you can (without spamming of course).

    Being a valued member in the forum and posting insightful posts and topics works well. Sharing content in freebie or download sections too.

    Blog commenting when relevant works well too if you're one of the first to comment and leave solid replies with a link to something similar / opposing on your site - use Google Alerts and feedreader to stay up to date.

    Interacting in big facebook groups works well and sharing your content from time to time.

    Tweeting big names on Twitter to tell them you've written about them, linked to them or written a post they'd like can work great again IF you have solid content - I regularly get some of the biggest names re-tweeting my stuff by doing just this.

    Mention authorities and influential people in all your posts - quote them, reference them, link to similar topics, ask them a Q and include the answer, round up their opinion on a particular topic and post about it.

    Syndicate and share your content wherever you can - other blogs, Scoop It groups, Reddit, Inbound.org, InsideIM, Kingged, Digg etc etc.

    Can do really well with these techniques.
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  • Profile picture of the author Stuart Walker
    Thanks for your apologies on my divorce....It's not easy going through something like this, especially when it's not your choice..
    onto the subject at hand..... I have the list building site that is in my sig. no success yet.... I also have another site that i just got up and running. It's an auto blog with click bank products. not sure if i'm allowed to put the link here... but if you want to check it out it's amsupertips.com. I hope i'm not breaking any rules here by putting my website link in. I just want you guys to check it out and let me know what you think of it or if i should change anything? i'm using cb goliath plugin. any advice or suggestions on anything will be greatly appreciated!
    So if I'm getting this right...you've got a site about list building but you don't actually have any success about list building and here you are posting in WF, which is presumably your target audience, telling us you've no idea what you are doing?

    Do you see where you might be going wrong here?

    Create sites on things you know and are passionate about or something that causes you a great pain / problem and other people suffer from too - like unwanted divorce for example!

    You'll have more success.

    Autoblogs are junk. People want HIGH QUALITY blog content not auto-generated nonsense.

    You'll need to re-evaluate your whole plan here. You're way off tangent.
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    • Profile picture of the author JasonLD
      Originally Posted by Stuart Walker View Post

      So if I'm getting this right...you've got a site about list building but you don't actually have any success about list building and here you are posting in WF, which is presumably your target audience, telling us you've no idea what you are doing?

      Do you see where you might be going wrong here?

      Create sites on things you know and are passionate about or something that causes you a great pain / problem and other people suffer from too - like unwanted divorce for example!

      You'll have more success.

      Autoblogs are junk. People want HIGH QUALITY blog content not auto-generated nonsense.

      You'll need to re-evaluate your whole plan here. You're way off tangent.
      I may have though so.. I'm just trying to be in it while learning. i'm confused on traffic topics. the list building i understand about but it's frustrating trying to get traffic. I'm fairly new to this..thanks for your advice though. i appreciate it. If autoblogs are junk why do i read of so many affiliate marketers using them? just curious.
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      • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
        Originally Posted by JasonLD View Post

        I may have though so.. I'm just trying to be in it while learning. i'm confused on traffic topics. the list building i understand about but it's frustrating trying to get traffic. I'm fairly new to this..thanks for your advice though. i appreciate it. If autoblogs are junk why do i read of so many affiliate marketers using them? just curious.
        Okay, before looking for new options let's patch the holes in the boat. I notice your sig is gone. Maybe a mod removed it or maybe you did as you shouldn't have anything in your sig that can be considered self promotional when related to your OP.

        Either way, I clicked on it before it was gone and it needs work. First, it looks good so you've got that going for you. But long gone are the days where you can just toss out a single line of text and expect many people to sign up.

        You need four of five COMPELLING reasons in the form of bullets if you want to get people to sign up. Every warrior that clicks your sig link and doesn't sign up for your magic dust represents a wasted "traffic" opportunity. You can do much better than what you're doing. Pull five benefits from your report or whatever you're offering and stick them on the optin page. If you need help look at a bunch of sigs from here or generic Web optin pages for ideas. Your conversions WILL improve. Good luck.
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        • Profile picture of the author JasonLD
          Originally Posted by travlinguy View Post

          Okay, before looking for new options let's patch the holes in the boat. I notice your sig is gone. Maybe a mod removed it or maybe you did as you shouldn't have anything in your sig that can be considered self promotional when related to your OP.

          Either way, I clicked on it before it was gone and it needs work. First, it looks good so you've got that going for you. But long gone are the days where you can just toss out a single line of text and expect many people to sign up.

          You need four of five COMPELLING reasons in the form of bullets if you want to get people to sign up. Every warrior that clicks your sig link and doesn't sign up for your magic dust represents a wasted "traffic" opportunity. You can do much better than what you're doing. Pull five benefits from your report or whatever you're offering and stick them on the optin page. If you need help look at a bunch of sigs from here or generic Web optin pages for ideas. Your conversions WILL improve. Good luck.
          I took the sig out myself.. Thank you for the advice. And I'm not supposed to have a sig like that? So what kind of sig can I link? A blog site? What kind of site? Or none all together
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          • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
            Originally Posted by JasonLD View Post

            I took the sig out myself.. Thank you for the advice. And I'm not supposed to have a sig like that? So what kind of sig can I link? A blog site? What kind of site? Or none all together
            You can have a sig. Just be careful when you start a thread that your sig link isn't directly related to your post as the mods (and members) might see it as self promo. It didn't appear to be, just sayin'
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            • Profile picture of the author JasonLD
              Originally Posted by travlinguy View Post

              You can have a sig. Just be careful when you start a thread that your sig link isn't directly related to your post as the mods (and members) might see it as self promo. It didn't appear to be, just sayin'
              So if I have a sig with list building link I can't make a thread on list building? Even if I have questions about it that I can't find in a search?
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              • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
                Originally Posted by JasonLD View Post

                So if I have a sig with list building link I can't make a thread on list building? Even if I have questions about it that I can't find in a search?
                No, you can start a thread on list building. Just don't have an optin link in your sig. Disable your sig for that thread only. Spend some time going through the rules. Lots of people don't and soon find they've lost a valuable privilege out of nothing more than ignorance.
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        • Profile picture of the author JasonLD
          Originally Posted by travlinguy View Post

          Okay, before looking for new options let's patch the holes in the boat. I notice your sig is gone. Maybe a mod removed it or maybe you did as you shouldn't have anything in your sig that can be considered self promotional when related to your OP.

          Either way, I clicked on it before it was gone and it needs work. First, it looks good so you've got that going for you. But long gone are the days where you can just toss out a single line of text and expect many people to sign up.

          You need four of five COMPELLING reasons in the form of bullets if you want to get people to sign up. Every warrior that clicks your sig link and doesn't sign up for your magic dust represents a wasted "traffic" opportunity. You can do much better than what you're doing. Pull five benefits from your report or whatever you're offering and stick them on the optin page. If you need help look at a bunch of sigs from here or generic Web optin pages for ideas. Your conversions WILL improve. Good luck.
          what if I promoted my list building site through a blog and had a link to it then. would i be able to keep the squeeze page like it is because i would have already mentioned some of the stuff they would be getting for free in the download
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          • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
            Originally Posted by JasonLD View Post

            what if I promoted my list building site through a blog and had a link to it then. would i be able to keep the squeeze page like it is because i would have already mentioned some of the stuff they would be getting for free in the download
            No. People are going to come to it in a variety of ways and don't assume everyone that clicks from the blog has read enough, or any of it for that matter. You can do what you want but the BIGGEST mistake I see coming from new marketers is not providing people with enough info.

            Pardon my bluntness but when I saw your page I knew you didn't know much about building a list simply by the bare bones presentation. If you're going to bother trying to make money online then do it right. Otherwise you'll join the leagues of people who say, "I tried and tried but I couldn't cut it." The majority of those people were working models that don't work, like not making a compelling case for __________. Fill in the blank.
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  • Profile picture of the author JasonLD
    As far as niches go.. It doesn't matter what niche I pick I still have to learn how to market it and all the other good stuff about seo optimization and promoting and all. That's what I'm unclear on. When you say good content, that means writing useful posts and adding keywords? What does the long tail key word refer to?
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  • Profile picture of the author Trey Morgan
    If you're strapped for cash you need to become a Guerilla Marketer. Get on related forums and start offering advice to people. Start making videos on Youtube, start writing articles and distributing them to article directories.

    Get on Facebook and Twitter and build your presence. Getting traffic is about getting people to know who you are and getting people to check out your website. You can even make business cards and hand them out to people that you think would be interested in your business.

    If somebody put a gun to your head and said you have to ethically drive 100 targeted visitors to your site in the next 24 hours what would you do. I'm 100% sure that you would think of something.

    Create a daily traffic schedule and follow it religiously.
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  • Profile picture of the author AmericanMuscleTA
    Originally Posted by JasonLD View Post

    Hello all,

    I have been researching IM for a few months now and have a few websites started. Now I'm having trouble getting targeted traffic to my sites and I think i'm trying to learn to much.... information overload......
    I am trying to understand how to effectively get traffic to my site and what is the best ways to do it with low cost... I haven't much cash right now and haven't made anything with IM yet... I'm not giving up I just need some guidance to what i''m trying to learn. I have been reading way to much on different topics and i'm driving myself insane. Part of that is to keep my mind off my divorce... but some of it makes sense and most of it doesn't. I am using click bank on one of my sites. I know there's a lot more i can write here but i'll leave it at that for now.
    Jason,

    I'm just like you... I'm currently going through a divorce and it ain't easy.

    It all started in August and the first few months were horrible. Then I decided it was time to grow and grow my internet business. Soaking up all the information I could to get my mind off things.

    It's been a few months now and I haven't looked back. I started making sales in March and my traffic has been going up ever since.

    You need to go where the money is. If you're marketing to pet owners then you need to find where the pet owners hang out.

    Best of luck with everything, Jason!
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  • Profile picture of the author greenowl123
    Yes, traffic is the Holy Grail of IM... without it, nothing else is possible.

    This All-in-one thread on traffic has lots of good advice from different people (me being one of them)

    Good luck with your divorce. I "been there and done that and got the t-shirt" and it was tough... but it can get a lot better after some time passes, and most probably will... it did for me. Hang tough !
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    • Profile picture of the author JasonLD
      Originally Posted by greenowl123 View Post

      Yes, traffic is the Holy Grail of IM... without it, nothing else is possible.

      This All-in-one thread on traffic has lots of good advice from different people (me being one of them)

      Good luck with your divorce. I "been there and done that and got the t-shirt" and it was tough... but it can get a lot better after some time passes, and most probably will... it did for me. Hang tough !
      What do you mean by "got the t-shirt"? It is the toughest thing i've ever faced in my life. Not to mention even tougher considering the events that culminated.. As time passes it will get easier, I have to reinvent my whole being now... That's what I think I should do. On the bright side I would not be on this forum right now if that didn't happen to me. I'm taking steps to better myself. I will succeed!
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