Help/advice Wordpress - newbie 'ere

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I want to follow the advice from here and want to start with a blog but am not clear on the options Wordpress gives you...

From Wordpress:
"There is also a service called WordPress.com which lets you get started with a new and free WordPress-based blog in seconds, but varies in several ways and is less flexible than the WordPress you download and install yourself."

Warriors - What do you recommend, how do I start?
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  • Profile picture of the author jdsonline
    The installation is very easy. Go to wordpress.org/latest to download the latest version of Wordpress and there are specific instructions within to install WP on your server. If you get stuck for some reason, PM me and I'll be glad to help you get set up.
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    • Profile picture of the author tommen
      Originally Posted by HBZSoftware.com View Post

      Don't use WordPress.com for blogs - host it yourself.
      I agree, you should never use the free version.If you do, there is a risk that they shut you down without any warning.It has happened to many people I know.

      Get a domain name (.com) which is has your best keyword in it and hosting from Hostgator.
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  • Profile picture of the author mhuktar
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    • Profile picture of the author Nick Thacker
      Originally Posted by mhuktar View Post

      Just use joomla instead.

      Joomla is an award-winning content management system (CMS), which enables you to build Web sites and powerful online applications.

      It can be used to easily manage every aspect of your website, from adding content and images to updating a product catalogue, processing credit card payments or taking online reservations.
      Joomla is great for managing loads of content, users, and 'news-y' type sites, but it can be a headache to set up correctly and get going. Not to mention the built-in SEO options are few, and components/modules/plugins (extensions) don't always work the way you need them to, if at all.

      That said, I'm a HAPPY Joomla user, but I didn't START that way--I spent countless hours punching things and screaming in agony when something broke. Once I figured it out, it can really fly.

      Wordpress has been a completely different animal. Every theme and plugin I've ever installed has worked great and it's easy as pie to write, manage, and edit posts and add them to categories. SEO is a breeze, and scalability is no problem.

      Hope this helps!
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  • Profile picture of the author Tyrus Antas
    Well, looking at his question I doubt Joomla would be a good option for him. Probably too complex.

    Tyrus
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  • Profile picture of the author Just Lookin
    I agree with Tyrus !!

    Joomla is the bomb, don't get me wrong, it is a very powerful and easy to use solution, I say easy but that is once you have gotten used to it. It can be very daunting at first but with perseverance it is definitely the best content management solution.

    That said from what you want to achieve you are better going with WP, I have only recently started to use it and have found it to be much more versatile than I first thought

    Whichever way you choose to go, I wish you the best of luck...

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    • Profile picture of the author Marc Jager
      Now I'm even MORE confused than to begin with!

      Please don't think me ungreatful, I am very greatful for all the responses.

      Perhaps the fault was with me and my inadequate original post/question.

      I doubt I would have any problem using WordPress.
      I'm proficient at HTML, CSS, using Dreamweaver and Photoshop. I used to design websites. What I don't get is the differences between Wordpress.com and .org and the online vs the downloadable one...

      tommen, of course I'm getting a .com but don't you guys say that you should have a blog aswell?

      I've never used a blog before. I notice some people have a blog like Wordpress and have their domain name in there somewhere.. something like www.wordpress/domain.com, other people seem to have a blog on/within or built into their website so they simply have their .com but it's a blog...

      So what I am asking you guys is, what's the best method?

      If I knew how, I would simply have my www.domain.com be my website and blog in one.

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      • Profile picture of the author bgmacaw
        Originally Posted by Marc Jager View Post

        What I don't get is the differences between Wordpress.com and .org and the online vs the downloadable one...
        WordPress.org is the distribution point for the core WordPress script as well as support and so forth. If you're really wanting to have a blog, this is what you use. Any good Linux based web host will have this as a one-click install.

        WordPress.com is a free blog hosting service. You can't do as much there as you can on your own WordPress blog (example, Javascript in a post or installing plugins) and any commercialization/monetization/advertising is prohibited. It's great for getting a feel for using WordPress or doing a non-commercial personal blog.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nigel Greaves
    Marc,

    The two main differences between having a Wordpress blog on your own domain and having one on Wordpress.com are these:

    On Wordpress.com you can't have affiliate links so while a blog there is great as part of your traffic funnel you can't sell from it.

    Having your own WP blog on your own domain puts you in control, with more flexiblilty and freedom. You control what goes on there.

    Currently there's a virus affecting Wordpress.com so don't even go there at the present time. Here's a thread with more information:

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ect-virus.html


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  • Profile picture of the author JL Melvin
    The best option is to install Wordpress on your own server through your hosting provider. It's more flexible, plus gives you control over the content.

    You have a lot more options with Plug-in's too with your own install of WP.

    If your hosting provider has Fantastico, the WP install is just a few clicks a way.

    Jeff
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  • Profile picture of the author new2ebiz
    ...other people seem to have a blog on/within or built into their website so they simply have their .com but it's a blog...

    Use your domainname.com. Unless you're using an strange hosting company - within your cpanel or control panel there will be a quick blog set up option. It's under Fantastico with some, 'scripts and software' with other companies. It's hard to say because I don't know which hosting company you're using.
    My take it's better to be in control of where your blog is and what you can do with it, than to depend on another site and whether they stay around or not.
    If you need help installing, google wordpress install video or something like that and you'll find plenty to watch.
    Good luck.
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    • Profile picture of the author Marc Jager
      JL Melvin and new2ebiz - Thanks I just did that by experimenting with the C-Panel of my host (3iX.org) on my personal website!

      So from my personal website www.marcjager.com, I ended up with marcjager.com

      So is this what all ye Warriors advise should be done if you want to start a blog to get a 'list' to begin 'making money'?

      So say i want to begin on my merry IM way, i want to start a health and lifestyle blog, build a subscribership, sell affiliate products etc etc, I register a domain.com then build a blog out of it (say domain.com/blog) and go from there?
      If so, do you use the base website, the domain.com? What do you use it for?
      Do you use the blog for articles and the site for selling products or what?

      Sorry for firing a million questions, I'm excited
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      • Profile picture of the author Julian Lockhart
        I have seen every variation under the sun when it comes to where you put a blog on a site.

        From my point of view blogs don't need to be separate from the rest of a site because visitors don't care what its called or where its located just as long as the content is relevant and of high quality.

        I like using WP for the whole website and using readily available plug-ins and themes to customize it.

        flexibility2 looks very good. Check it out.

        Good Luck.
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        • Profile picture of the author Marc Jager
          Originally Posted by Julian Lockhart View Post

          I have seen every variation under the sun when it comes to where you put a blog on a site.

          From my point of view blogs don't need to be separate from the rest of a site because visitors don't care what its called or where its located just as long as the content is relevant and of high quality.

          I like using WP for the whole website and using readily available plug-ins and themes to customize it.

          flexibility2 looks very good. Check it out.

          Good Luck.
          Thanks. That makes the most sense to me.
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      • Profile picture of the author new2ebiz
        .....If so, do you use the base website, the domain.com? What do you use it for?
        Do you use the blog for articles and the site for selling products or what?...

        Like Julian said there are many ways to do this.
        You mentioned one; using yoursite.com for a lead product with a yoursite.com/healthnews as the blog (the blog can be named a longtail keyword in your niche instead of blog). Subdirectories can be other products you sell.

        Many people have used name.com/blogname as a way to have their name.com site indexed faster. They use it for announcements, tips, social networking, membership sites, interaction with their potential customers and much more. The main site pages can be a lead product sale's page or give away product to build a list, etc. Don't have too many options on the home page or customers will be confused. A salesperson told me one time that giving a customer too many choices usually means they don't decide, they leave.

        Other people simply install the blog at name.com and use plugins to make the site work more like the old fashioned html sites.

        Part of the choice will depend on your targeted customer group and how much interaction they are use to and desire. My targeted demographic group is still getting use to blogs so I use the main page strategy with the blog in a subdirectory for indexing and tidbits of useful information.
        I've even seen some themes created by Warriors that have a salepage look.

        In a longwinded way I'm saying, look at your targeted market and ask yourself what are they use too and what do they want. I get the feeling from what you've said and your picture you might be dealing with a younger age group than I so they are very used to social networking, etc.
        The key is offering great content, short or long posts and articles, that answers the wants of your audience. The short posts on your blog could always lead to longer articles on your 'site'.
        One more tip: don't try too many traffic generation strategies at once. Focus on one that suits your customer base and expand as you learn what works for you and them.

        Good luck
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  • Profile picture of the author new2ebiz
    Hi Marc:
    I just read a post by Erick Louviere ,from 5-20-09 I think, that addresses how to build a list, inside a discussion about not being a newbie anymore. It gave me a laugh but also made some good points.
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    • Profile picture of the author Marc Jager
      Sound advice new2ebiz, thanks!
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