Can I get "Think and Grow Rich" as a Free Give away?

by joecool1972 17 replies
Hi all,

I have seen so many people giving away "think and grow rich" by napoleon hill and I wanted to do the same.

I am assuming it is public domain, but not sure.

I wanted to add it as a bonus item to one of my ebooks.

Can anyone advise me as to where I can get it so that I can offer it myself as a bonus download, without breaking any laws on copyright etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author daelx
    I've been looking for this as well....

    I think most people are copying it from Gutenberg or some other source and adding their stuff. I haven't wanted to do this for fear of doing something wrong.

    Is there a legitimate source you can obtain this? I should be public domain, right?
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    • Profile picture of the author Ephrils
      I offer it as a bonus to my Chimp Change report.

      There's tons of copies of the book around. I've seen at least 2 different ones. The one I currently use I think is probably closer to the actual printed book.
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      • Profile picture of the author daelx
        So where did you get your copy? Can we use it as our own?
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        • Profile picture of the author Ephrils
          My copy I got as a free copy a long time ago. I don't even remember where.

          You can use it, I don't care. Everyone should read it anyway
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          • Profile picture of the author joecool1972
            Originally Posted by cosmokid View Post

            Folks, I would strongly advise against doing this!

            This book is not in the public domain.

            It was published in 1937.

            Books published from the year 1912 and earlier are in the public domain.
            Jennifer

            Thanks for that Jennifer,

            If it is breaking the law, even if everyone else is doing it, then I will stay away from it.

            However, to be honest I am still not convinced. I bought public domain riches a while back, and still haven't had time to go through it yet, but I thought there was some other law that came in in the 60's or 70's that might mean that it is o.k. I thought the copyright was the life of the owner plus 70 years, but I thought that only came into effect in the last - I don't know - 40 years or so. And I don't know when Napoleon died.

            You sound a million times more knowledgable on this than me. But I am going to go away and do some more research so I have all my facts straight because offering something like this as a bonus would be awesome for the type of people I target.

            Thanks again jennifer, you have made me realise more research is needed on my part.
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            • Profile picture of the author denoble
              Hey quys,
              I may not be sure whether or not the book is in public domain but the many that I've found online has a free distribution or sharing right
              A quick search online will tell more.See these sites as well http://www.scienceofgettingrich.net,....guterberg.com and lots more
              Hope that helps
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              • Profile picture of the author DallasL
                There does exist a particular copy of Think And Grow Rich that is in the public domain I understand, but it's really hard to find. And the Hill estate will make your life a nightmare if you do try to do anything with it. They are very aggressive about protecting that property.
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                • Profile picture of the author joecool1972
                  Originally Posted by DallasL View Post

                  There does exist a particular copy of Think And Grow Rich that is in the public domain I understand, but it's really hard to find. And the Hill estate will make your life a nightmare if you do try to do anything with it. They are very aggressive about protecting that property.
                  I can appreciate that, so can I use one of the other copies floating around like everyone else does.

                  Or should I rephrase that and say - "how do I go about using one of the other copies floating around legally?" I know there are probably not many lawyers on here but is there copies that I can use and just make sure that it has free distribution or sharing rights like "denoble" mentioned.

                  This is one of those times when everyone in the know shuts up and nobody seems to have the definitive answer.
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                  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Molano
                    The copy I have says it should be passed on to everyone out there and it has no disclaimer and no copyright statements, so I do include it in my e-book and give away a free sample. After all, where I got it a few months ago was a legit site which gave it away free and said to pass it on as well.

                    I think I was lucky enough to get my hands on the public domain copy.

                    Although if I ever get a warning of some sort I'll remove it.

                    You can get it here: www.TheNewbieBlueprint.com it's in the free sample
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          • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
            Originally Posted by cosmokid View Post

            Books published from the year 1912 and earlier are in the public domain.
            Books first published in the United States before January 1, 1923 or earlier are in the public domain.

            Books published between 1923 and 1964 had to have their copyright renewed in order to still be under copyright protection today.

            That's the stuff I'm sure of. What comes below is what I've read online, so don't put too much stock into it!

            From what I've read, the original 1937 edition of Think and Grow Rich is in the public domain, because Napoleon Hill did an updated version in the 1960's and copyrighted that version, and did not renew the copyright on the older version.

            If that's true, then the earlier work would be in the public domain and could be used. However, that's something I'd definitely look into further and confirm before using the work in any way!
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            • Profile picture of the author Daniel Molano
              Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert View Post

              Books first published in the United States before January 1, 1923 or earlier are in the public domain.

              Books published between 1923 and 1964 had to have their copyright renewed in order to still be under copyright protection today.

              That's the stuff I'm sure of. What comes below is what I've read online, so don't put too much stock into it!

              From what I've read, the original 1937 edition of Think and Grow Rich is in the public domain, because Napoleon Hill did an updated version in the 1960's and copyrighted that version, and did not renew the copyright on the older version.

              If that's true, then the earlier work would be in the public domain and could be used. However, that's something I'd definitely look into further and confirm before using the work in any way!
              Yes, I did some research and the 1937 edition IS in the public domain.

              In fact, if you read, it says somewhere that you should give it away to everyone.
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              • Profile picture of the author SeanIM
                Originally Posted by Daniel Molano View Post

                Yes, I did some research and the 1937 edition IS in the public domain.

                In fact, if you read, it says somewhere that you should give it away to everyone.
                Can you share where you found this information that it *is* in the public domain?

                thx

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  • Profile picture of the author bluzman
    Here is a place that has alot of free stuff and I got my copy from them with resale and giveaway rights. http://www.whitedovebooks.co.uk/site-design/privacy.htm#gr8mktg Glad I could help.
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Molano
    There are several sources, but this one should do: Think and Grow Rich: Title Page

    And I quote the website:

    "scanned at sacred-texts.com, July 2006. Proofed and formatted by John Bruno Hare. This text is in the public domain in the United States by the terms of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act because it was published between 1923 and 1964 inclusive, and not renewed at the US Copyright office in a timely fashion. These files may be used for any non-commercial purpose, provided this notice of attribution is left intact in all copies. This electronic edition is not sponsored or endorsed by, or otherwise affiliated with Napoleon Hill, his family and heirs, the Napoleon Hill Foundation, the Ralston Society, or any past or present publishers of this book."
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    • Profile picture of the author joecool1972
      Wow, This is the sort of info I wanted. Thanks everyone.

      Daniel, I bought your blueprint a couple of weeks ago. I know I have the copy of think and grow rich from it. I just haven't had a chance to read it yet.

      I think I will go ahead and use it. I can always pull it if anyone yells at me and has proof that I should not be using it. But so many self improvement sites etc use it I don't think it will be a problem.

      Adios
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