Affordable IM coaches/mentors?

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Can anyone recommend a few affordable coaches/mentors? I can't afford a mentor who's going to charge me the price of a new car... and it seems like all the WSO coaches are big ticket guys.

I would just like access to a membership site, perhaps access to my mentor via skype or email when I have questions, something under $30 a month?
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  • Profile picture of the author DubDubDubDot
    IM is a broad term. You'll need to be more specific in what you are looking to do.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jassen
    No offense, but I doubt you're going to find an IM coach that is actually successful themselves that will coach you for only $30/mo, especially with direct access to them. The reason that successful coaches are expensive is because the value of our time is quite high.

    Instead of looking for a coach, I'd encourage you to spend hours upon hours delving through the WarriorForum, particularly the sub-threads, which often tend to have a lot more actionable value than here in the general IM forum. In the sub-threads, you'll find active members that share their entire business models -- find those and learn from them.

    Lose yourself in the endless threads on WF, it's one of the best free educations you'll ever get.
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    • Profile picture of the author LarryHaywood
      Originally Posted by Jassen View Post

      No offense, but I doubt you're going to find an IM coach that is actually successful themselves that will coach you for only $30/mo, especially with direct access to them. The reason that successful coaches are expensive is because the value of our time is quite high.
      Hi Jassen, I must take objection to this advice. Your doubts are not warranted. Let me explain why...

      You may doubt that you can get coaching for around $30 month with direct access to your coach/mentor/sponsor (however you want say it) but you CAN! Why would someone do this? It's simple really...

      Because if the system is setup properly, then by the coach helping that one particular person and many others at the same time, they will earn residual income off the efforts of the said student. This is why someone would and do offer coaching for their services.

      Originally Posted by Jassen View Post

      Instead of looking for a coach, I'd encourage you to spend hours upon hours delving through the WarriorForum, particularly the sub-threads, which often tend to have a lot more actionable value than here in the general IM forum. In the sub-threads, you'll find active members that share their entire business models -- find those and learn from them.

      Lose yourself in the endless threads on WF, it's one of the best free educations you'll ever get.
      This is a terrible waste of time and a good way to get a newbie to quickly become overwhelmed with too much information and paralysis. IMHO
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  • Profile picture of the author lotsofsnow
    Originally Posted by CAmarketing View Post

    Can anyone recommend a few affordable coaches/mentors? I can't afford a mentor who's going to charge me the price of a new car... and it seems like all the WSO coaches are big ticket guys.

    I would just like access to a membership site, perhaps access to my mentor via skype or email when I have questions, something under $30 a month?
    You will get what you pay for.

    For $30 you can't even hire a mechanic for 1/2 hour to fix your car.

    So, what do you expect to get for that?

    Realistically you should calculate that somebody who knows what they are doing makes anywhere from $250 to $1,000 per hour.

    Just do your math and you will find that it is not a lot of money. And that is with the work they are actually doing.

    You most likely do not want to be mentored by somebody that make minimum wage, right?

    Why should somebody invest their time into coaching you for less than they are making in their regular business?
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    • Profile picture of the author heavysm
      I used to think that coaching for $100 - 500 was ideal since that was my budget years ago.

      Now I don't mind spending $3000+ to break into new industries to learn stuff that makes others $10,000+ monthly and beyond.

      It also doesn't completely make sense for highly successful marketers to provide coaching for peanuts compared to what they're making.

      You want a pricing level that reflects the quality of the teaching that you're getting. Even at $5000+ the coaching should be excellent as long as the support and guidance are there. Tangible results and constant guidance are needed to really make it happen for you.

      Back in early 2009 I was part of one of the vaguest and scammiest programs there was and it cost me a pretty heft amount to be part of it.

      I don't regret being part of it because it was part of a process that led me to be where i am now.

      The worst mindset to have in this situation is to think that all coaches are scams. That's obviously not true. But finding coaches who will grind with you and work with you until you make it can be a little hard to find.

      I seriously recommend saving at least $3000 - 4000 before you jump in with any mentor. Some might charge more than that but that's at least a good amount to start with to ensure a decent $3,000ish monthly income with the proper effort.

      If you need some guidance reach out and PM me. I have a list of people i have researched that you can look into.
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  • Profile picture of the author WillR
    You get what you pay for. Why on earth would anyone making decent money sell their personal time to you for a measly $30/month... and why would you expect them to? That shows me you are not very serious about this and thus I would not want to mentor someone like you.

    You should be prepared to pay thousands if you want a proper mentor. You'll get back what you put in. Until you put your butt on the line you'll never make any decent progress. At $30/month I bet you'd take little to no action on the content given to you because you have nothing on the line... nothing to lose.

    Sorry if I sound harsh but I've just seen way too many people go through the same thing before. You have to treat this like a real business and that means investing in yourself and your future. Expecting a mentor for $30 is not taking things seriously.

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  • Profile picture of the author EzamMarjan
    I recommend Quick Start Challenge 2.0 coaching which I'm in right now. It cost less than $50 for a 4 weeks coaching session. Can find details in my signature/blog below.
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    • Profile picture of the author Darren Dillman
      It all depends on exactly what you are looking for in a coach/mentor.

      One on One, personal coaching you probably won't get for less than $5k especially with email and skype access to them.

      If you're looking for a coaching type product to point you in the right direction and preferably get you bringing some money in the near future (30-90 days) then Quick Start Challenge is a good choice. I talk about it on my blog as well.

      The thing is that a lot of people don't understand is that most people don't have 5k to drop without much thought. If you are not in a position to lay out that kind of money then a low cost coaching product or membership can get you earning some money so you feel more comfortable spending more on high end coaching with the same person.

      Even if you are certain the coaching you are about to purchase is from a quality coach it can still be quite a leap for some.

      And yes the time of a quality coach is the biggest thing that causes the price to rise. Because, there is no way they could help everyone personally if 30 a month was the price. The price rises to keep their profits up while still having manageable groups of students.

      Chris Farrell has a good membership for 37 a month I believe. He has a lot of content on there and forum and things but to get one on one time with him you are still looking at the high ticket price.

      For a streamlined approach in 4 or 5 weeks of "do this, then this, then that" in easy to understand and easy to digest and implement chunks then Quick Start may be for you as I mentioned above.
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  • Profile picture of the author LarryHaywood
    There is so much misinformation in this thread it's not even funny. It's very sad actually, especially coming from many members I see and have seen around here for years. Are you guys just out of the loop or what?
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    • Profile picture of the author heavysm
      Originally Posted by LarryHaywood View Post

      There is so much misinformation in this thread it's not even funny. It's very sad actually, especially coming from many members I see and have seen around here for years. Are you guys just out of the loop or what?
      Well care to elaborate on what you mean rather than giving vague criticism?

      I'm assuming a lot of newbies will be looking at this thread so elaborating for their sake might be worth the effort.

      Edit: Well I just read your thread about this and a few things need clarification. Not all people who succeed need coaches and I suppose you would group these people as the "lucky ones".

      What you seem to be most against are these coaches who charge several grand to join their programs. While I agree that you don't necessarily need to link arms with these coaches to succeed it's hard to argue with the results many of them have with their students. I'm not saying that the success of the students justifies the coaching fee, just hear me out.

      I take a very particular view of the payment for these programs, and I hope others at least understand my point here. The first coaching program i took up years ago was a disaster for me. I wasted about $3000 on coaching, which back then was a ton for me to give up, but it was the fact that i had to come up with it creatively and through some very out-of-the-box methods that most people don't think about.

      The point is, I didn't let not having that money initially stop me from joining; I did whatever it took to get the money together because I knew if i needed to the same in the future I could repeat the same process.

      That's more into the mentality of those who succeed, even when things look like absolute crap in your life that fire in you to succeed doesn't go out. Rather it grows stronger and drives your want and will to push onward. There's really no stopping you, and that's the mentality that creates amazing results when applied through your actions in life.

      If i stopped my pursuit of an online income because of that coaching program back in 2009 I might agree with you saying that coaches who charge exorbitant fees for their services are ridiculous and people need to wake up. But there's an angle here that you have side stepped.

      The very act of getting that fee together shows the fire that's needed to seriously succeed in business. If you really seriously want it that fee is nothing compared to the reward and that's what I think is missing from your point of view. Assessing the fact that the barrier to entry into these higher level coaching programs might be necessary in separating the mega serious action takers from those who let life conquer them rather than them conquering life.

      It's an angle of evaluating the prospect to ensure that they're the type of person you want to work with. Some may disagree that a ridiculous fee doesn't need to be charged in order to evaluate their efforts, but thus far it's been the best way to gauge who is most serious about changing their lives for the better.
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      • Profile picture of the author LarryHaywood
        Originally Posted by heavysm View Post

        Well care to elaborate on what you mean rather than giving vague criticism?

        I'm assuming a lot of newbies will be looking at this thread so elaborating for their sake might be worth the effort.

        Edit: Well I just read your thread about this and a few things need clarification. Not all people who succeed need coaches and I suppose you would group these people as the "lucky ones".

        What you seem to be most against are these coaches who charge several grand to join their programs. While I agree that you don't necessarily need to link arms with these coaches to succeed it's hard to argue with the results many of them have with their students. I'm not saying that the success of the students justifies the coaching fee, just hear me out.

        I take a very particular view of the payment for these programs, and I hope others at least understand my point here. The first coaching program i took up years ago was a disaster for me. I wasted about $3000 on coaching, which back then was a ton for me to give up, but it was the fact that i had to come up with it creatively and through some very out-of-the-box methods that most people don't think about.

        The point is, I didn't let not having that money initially stop me from joining; I did whatever it took to get the money together because I knew if i needed to the same in the future I could repeat the same process.

        That's more into the mentality of those who succeed, even when things look like absolute crap in your life that fire in you to succeed doesn't go out. Rather it grows stronger and drives your want and will to push onward. There's really no stopping you, and that's the mentality that creates amazing results when applied through your actions in life.

        If i stopped my pursuit of an online income because of that coaching program back in 2009 I might agree with you saying that coaches who charge exorbitant fees for their services are ridiculous and people need to wake up. But there's an angle here that you have side stepped.

        The very act of getting that fee together shows the fire that's needed to seriously succeed in business. If you really seriously want it that fee is nothing compared to the reward and that's what I think is missing from your point of view. Assessing the fact that the barrier to entry into these higher level coaching programs might be necessary in separating the mega serious action takers from those who let life conquer them rather than them conquering life.

        It's an angle of evaluating the prospect to ensure that they're the type of person you want to work with. Some may disagree that a ridiculous fee doesn't need to be charged in order to evaluate their efforts, but thus far it's been the best way to gauge who is most serious about changing their lives for the better.
        I'm not sure how much I can elaborate as I got warned for my posting the other thread which was removed, and had another reply in another thread removed. But, I can say there is a better system in place of evaluating new prospects where they are not required to spend that kind of money to make sure they are serious about this business. It's actually a free 7 day trial method with video training and then you can see who the serious action takers are right away.

        And yes, I do consider the ones who truly are successful in this business without any true coaching or mentoring to be "lucky". Don't get me wrong, that doesn't mean they didn't put in a lot of time, money, hard work and effort to reach that, but what are the statistics? Something like 95% of all IMers fail?

        Sorry to hear you lost 3K on your first try with a coach. That's truly sad.
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      • Profile picture of the author LarryHaywood
        Originally Posted by heavysm View Post

        Well care to elaborate on what you mean rather than giving vague criticism?

        I'm assuming a lot of newbies will be looking at this thread so elaborating for their sake might be worth the effort.

        Edit: Well I just read your thread about this and a few things need clarification. Not all people who succeed need coaches and I suppose you would group these people as the "lucky ones".
        I found my other thread Heavysm, this is what I meant by being lucky..

        "Maybe not all, but when you are misinformed right off the bat as a newbie, you are either going to get extremely lucky or you are doomed. Period."
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  • Profile picture of the author Sarevok
    There's a million variables really.

    I mean what if I wanted a Baseball coach.

    I guarantee you I could find a coach in the next 2 minutes for dirt cheap. (Or even free).

    Maybe he's some retired umpire at a local community college or something who could give me a few pointers.

    Or if I was truly ambitious I could pay an Ex-Yankee (or maybe Triple A player) (OR COACH for that matter) to show me a few things. Sure - they would cost a lot more... But the prestige would be superior.

    Now here's the two million dollar question: Could an Ex-Yankee player teach me how to swing a bat more than some college player? That's a topic of conjecture.

    Me? I'm a "discount" kind of guy, I'd rather pay someone $20 to teach me how to swing a bat than pay some fancy rich ex-MLB player to teach me.

    (Also remember this - some retired AAA Umpire can probably teach me more in person than a book could ever teach me)...

    Conclusion:
    Just my random, chaotic $.02 rant, but I'm sure there's some good wisdom/logic in there somewhere.

    Now look - a few of you might send me hatemail saying this advice is really bad...

    But just remember there's always a million ways to slice the cake.

    PS: I just know the haters are going to tag me for this, so I wanted to be 100% fair in my brainstorming session here.

    It's kind of like the big universities.

    Harvard VS. BU.

    The Harvard kids think they're smarter.

    But they're really not. In my opinion it's all about prestige.

    (The Harvard kids will probably end up with more money... But they're not smarter haha. It's all about the prestige).

    The Underdog Victory:
    I tied a chess player who was a Harvard graduate student at the time, in front of his boss. (True story).

    His fancy education and mentors couldn't topple my hard work and dedication, and study to the game of chess.



    So, you can learn on your own... Or with anyone that you choose.

    //endchaos
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    • Profile picture of the author Gobala Krishnan
      I am developing my own coaching program as well, with membership site and coaching via Skype.

      But as the others mention here, the membership site only option will be cheap and members get access to some videos, but no personal interaction via Skype.

      The Skype / in person coaching option will be much more expensive since it requires my time and commitment..

      Actually, I think in most cases you will not really NEED a coach unless you've already got your online business up and running and just want to get to the next level. That's the "twilight zone" where no ebook or membership site can help you get through..
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    • Profile picture of the author LarryHaywood
      Originally Posted by Sarevok View Post

      There's a million variables really.

      I mean what if I wanted a Baseball coach.

      I guarantee you I could find a coach in the next 2 minutes for dirt cheap. (Or even free).

      Maybe he's some retired umpire at a local community college or something who could give me a few pointers.

      Or if I was truly ambitious I could pay an Ex-Yankee (or maybe Triple A player) (OR COACH for that matter) to show me a few things. Sure - they would cost a lot more... But the prestige would be superior.

      Now here's the two million dollar question: Could an Ex-Yankee player teach me how to swing a bat more than some college player? That's a topic of conjecture.

      Me? I'm a "discount" kind of guy, I'd rather pay someone $20 to teach me how to swing a bat than pay some fancy rich ex-MLB player to teach me.

      (Also remember this - some retired AAA Umpire can probably teach me more in person than a book could ever teach me)...

      Conclusion:
      Just my random, chaotic $.02 rant, but I'm sure there's some good wisdom/logic in there somewhere.

      Now look - a few of you might send me hatemail saying this advice is really bad...

      But just remember there's always a million ways to slice the cake.

      PS: I just know the haters are going to tag me for this, so I wanted to be 100% fair in my brainstorming session here.

      It's kind of like the big universities.

      Harvard VS. BU.

      The Harvard kids think they're smarter.

      But they're really not. In my opinion it's all about prestige.

      (The Harvard kids will probably end up with more money... But they're not smarter haha. It's all about the prestige).

      The Underdog Victory:
      I tied a chess player who was a Harvard graduate student at the time, in front of his boss. (True story).

      His fancy education couldn't topple my hard work and dedication, and study to the game of chess.



      So, you can learn on your own... Or with anyone that you choose.

      //endchaos
      Sarevok,

      That is exactly spot on the money! You explained this better than I was trying to do and if you receive any hate over this, they should be ashamed of themselves. Period. Nicely done bro.
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  • Profile picture of the author bwh1
    All above are valid points and you should define "coaching" with the word WHAT.

    If you look out for an overall coach, I can recommend to look at TheIMSystem from Kenster. He's also a Warrior, search for it.

    I joined this a few weeks ago and can say that the 300 bucks are well worth it. Lot's of actionable stuff and a good lead to build a business online.

    You anyhow have to put in the action, no difference here.

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  • I'm going to start one soon one flat fee, no monthly nothing plus if you don't make profit all money back, something like that. Just need to figure out the details, I'll make it a WSO when it's ready. The key I see is people don't take action so I need have step 1 do this, step 2 do this, step 3 do this etc.. otherwise the coaching will not help the students.
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  • Profile picture of the author talfighel
    What is really bad in my view is that most "coaches" out there that I have come across over the years do not do one thing to help their students have lots of success.

    They don't teach them on what EXACTLY they are doing right now that creates that massive success for them.

    Many of these coaches teach, for example, marketing techniques that don't really work in today's world. (such as article marketing in the work at home and make money online niche).
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