What Are the Desperate Niches?

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Hi Warriors,

As you might know I am a professional writer. Anyway I want to try Angela's method that she explains on her free WSO (great WSO by the way). In there she tells us to use desesperate niches in her tactic.

I can write in any niche as I normally do research so that is no problem to me. However I want to know what are the best niches out there that you can label their customers "desperate". I know that anything that relieves pain or some kind of disease is include on these, let's say, relieve depression for the first and diabetes for the second. But I wanted to know more niches.

I know probably most people will give this post a read and say "yeah right like I would tell you the best niches right out of nowhere". But hey I know there are great people out here in the Warrior Forum so maybe someone is willing to share.

All the Best
James
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  • Profile picture of the author Eric Stanley
    Found this for you:

    * Gamblers in debt
    * People whose home is about to be foreclosed
    * People about to go out of business
    * Students who need money to enroll
    * People who want to get rich quick
    * Parents with children needing legal help
    * Insurance agents, doctors, therapists, who have failed or fear failing there exams
    * Women who can not get pregnant
    * Women scared of husbands having affairs
    * Men who cant get women at all
    * People with illnesses/aches/pains who cant find a solution
    * People who have work drug tests coming up soon
    * Headache relief
    * Backpain relief
    * Toothache relief
    * Women scared of husbands having affairs
    * Parents with children needing legal help
    * Job hunting / career change / resume
    * How to sell your house
    * Debt consolidation
    * Stress management / relief
    * Online traders
    * Impotence
    * Divorce Consultation
    * Obesity
    * Criminal Charges
    * Civil Charges
    * Man breasts seems to be a desperate problem
    * 99 secrets you should know before marriage (boys/girls)
    * People will spend huge sums of money getting sick pets back to health.
    * Anybody who needs a good lawyer.
    * Creating IM products in different languages...
    * Get your ex back or Save your Relationship
    * How to cope/what to do if laid off.
    * How to get a good nights sleep...
    * Salespeople that hate doing cold calls
    * Women that need to get slim quick before a holiday
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    • Profile picture of the author James Seward
      Originally Posted by Eric Stanley View Post

      Found this for you:

      * Gamblers in debt
      * People whose home is about to be foreclosed
      * People about to go out of business
      * Students who need money to enroll
      * People who want to get rich quick
      * Parents with children needing legal help
      * Insurance agents, doctors, therapists, who have failed or fear failing there exams
      * Women who can not get pregnant
      * Women scared of husbands having affairs
      * Men who cant get women at all
      * People with illnesses/aches/pains who cant find a solution
      * People who have work drug tests coming up soon
      * Headache relief
      * Backpain relief
      * Toothache relief
      * Women scared of husbands having affairs
      * Parents with children needing legal help
      * Job hunting / career change / resume
      * How to sell your house
      * Debt consolidation
      * Stress management / relief
      * Online traders
      * Impotence
      * Divorce Consultation
      * Obesity
      * Criminal Charges
      * Civil Charges
      * Man breasts seems to be a desperate problem
      * 99 secrets you should know before marriage (boys/girls)
      * People will spend huge sums of money getting sick pets back to health.
      * Anybody who needs a good lawyer.
      * Creating IM products in different languages...
      * Get your ex back or Save your Relationship
      * How to cope/what to do if laid off.
      * How to get a good nights sleep...
      * Salespeople that hate doing cold calls
      * Women that need to get slim quick before a holiday
      Hey

      Thank you very much! That is a great list and some niches popped out immediatly as I can see them working for what I want. Will look into detail.

      Thanks
      James
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    • Profile picture of the author clarissa25
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      How do you find lists like this??


      Originally Posted by Eric Stanley View Post

      Found this for you:

      * Gamblers in debt
      * People whose home is about to be foreclosed
      * People about to go out of business
      * Students who need money to enroll
      * People who want to get rich quick
      * Parents with children needing legal help
      * Insurance agents, doctors, therapists, who have failed or fear failing there exams
      * Women who can not get pregnant
      * Women scared of husbands having affairs
      * Men who cant get women at all
      * People with illnesses/aches/pains who cant find a solution
      * People who have work drug tests coming up soon
      * Headache relief
      * Backpain relief
      * Toothache relief
      * Women scared of husbands having affairs
      * Parents with children needing legal help
      * Job hunting / career change / resume
      * How to sell your house
      * Debt consolidation
      * Stress management / relief
      * Online traders
      * Impotence
      * Divorce Consultation
      * Obesity
      * Criminal Charges
      * Civil Charges
      * Man breasts seems to be a desperate problem
      * 99 secrets you should know before marriage (boys/girls)
      * People will spend huge sums of money getting sick pets back to health.
      * Anybody who needs a good lawyer.
      * Creating IM products in different languages...
      * Get your ex back or Save your Relationship
      * How to cope/what to do if laid off.
      * How to get a good nights sleep...
      * Salespeople that hate doing cold calls
      * Women that need to get slim quick before a holiday
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      Originally Posted by Eric Stanley View Post

      Found this for you:

      * Gamblers in debt
      * People whose home is about to be foreclosed
      * People about to go out of business
      * Students who need money to enroll
      * People who want to get rich quick
      * Parents with children needing legal help
      * Insurance agents, doctors, therapists, who have failed or fear failing there exams
      * Women who can not get pregnant
      * Women scared of husbands having affairs
      * Men who cant get women at all
      * People with illnesses/aches/pains who cant find a solution
      * People who have work drug tests coming up soon
      * Headache relief
      * Backpain relief
      * Toothache relief
      * Women scared of husbands having affairs
      * Parents with children needing legal help
      * Job hunting / career change / resume
      * How to sell your house
      * Debt consolidation
      * Stress management / relief
      * Online traders
      * Impotence
      * Divorce Consultation
      * Obesity
      * Criminal Charges
      * Civil Charges
      * Man breasts seems to be a desperate problem
      * 99 secrets you should know before marriage (boys/girls)
      * People will spend huge sums of money getting sick pets back to health.
      * Anybody who needs a good lawyer.
      * Creating IM products in different languages...
      * Get your ex back or Save your Relationship
      * How to cope/what to do if laid off.
      * How to get a good nights sleep...
      * Salespeople that hate doing cold calls
      * Women that need to get slim quick before a holiday
      Exactly what i've been looking for. I'm about to ask same question.

      Thanks for the great list.
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  • Profile picture of the author Eric Stanley
    You're very welcome. I would certainly give article marketing a go with the desperate buyer niche. Articles have the appeal of being more authoritative and would serve as a great pre-sell platform.
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    • Profile picture of the author James Seward
      Originally Posted by Eric Stanley View Post

      You're very welcome. I would certainly give article marketing a go with the desperate buyer niche. Articles have the appeal of being more authoritative and would serve as a great pre-sell platform.
      Hey Eric,

      Yeah that was the whole idea as I am a professional writer myself and I am becoming more and more interested in article marketing, I really see it working for me. Will let you know my results!

      Thanks
      James
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      • Profile picture of the author work_at_home_mom
        Hey Eric,

        Thank you for the great list! This is very helpful and gave mee ideas what to write about.
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      • Profile picture of the author Vikuna2009+
        Smokers, "desespearate" quitting ? I am one for sure and for you that read my thread, I'm still struggling but not a cig for 3 days (and yes, my lungs are HURTING).

        This is not a hi-jacking, just an add-on to DESPERATE (as I am), go sell me SOMETHING ! I'm game, TAKE MY $$$
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        • Profile picture of the author Vikuna2009+
          ...and if you add a bonus or 2, make it a cigarette :p, Not... (I AM determined, DONE with the "stuff", good look to you, where do I sign up lol...
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          • Profile picture of the author James Seward
            Originally Posted by Vikuna2009+ View Post

            ...and if you add a bonus or 2, make it a cigarette :p, Not... (I AM determined, DONE with the "stuff", good look to you, where do I sign up lol...
            Just hung in there (that was one funny post :p) YOU CAN DO IT BROTHER!

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        • Profile picture of the author James Seward
          Originally Posted by Vikuna2009+ View Post

          Smokers, "desespearate" quitting ? I am one for sure and for you that read my thread, I'm still struggling but not a cig for 3 days (and yes, my lungs are HURTING).

          This is not a hi-jacking, just an add-on to DESPERATE (as I am), go sell me SOMETHING ! I'm game, TAKE MY $$$
          Hey

          Yeah I remember when my dad "started to stop" smoking. He was just like a old woman, complaining everyday (I am sorry girls ) "oh my lungs hurt"; "oh I can't breath"; "oh I am so cold" and so on... It was actually pretty funny to watch (but not to hear ) Well I guess I can add up that niche to the desesperate buyers And I just got my first customer too

          Thanks So Much
          James
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    • Profile picture of the author James Seward
      Originally Posted by WebsiteBoosterKit.com View Post

      " How To Cope Living with Someone Who Has Alzheimer's - millions have this disease and millions more will and no cure in sight just as yet. just my opnion
      Hi

      Yeah I guess diseases like Alzheimer's and Parkinson's on even Leucemia will always be niches of desesperate buyers just because, as you say, "millions have this disease and millions more will and no cure in sight just as yet".

      Thanks for sharing.

      Best
      James
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  • Profile picture of the author MaryAnnBarlow
    What a great list Eric and very much appreciated... thank you!

    Mary Ann
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  • Profile picture of the author elle56
    That's a great list. I think niches in the finance and health arena are still hot. The challenge is streamlining the niche into long tail keywords. That's why research is very important.
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    • Profile picture of the author Eric Stanley
      Originally Posted by elle56 View Post

      That's a great list. I think niches in the finance and health arena are still hot. The challenge is streamlining the niche into long tail keywords. That's why research is very important.
      Spot on. Going after the long tail keywords for the aforementioned topics/niches is important. Google Keyword Tool is your friend! Get writing!
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      • Profile picture of the author James Seward
        Originally Posted by Eric Stanley View Post

        Spot on. Going after the long tail keywords for the aforementioned topics/niches is important. Google Keyword Tool is your friend! Get writing!
        Hi Eric,

        Yeah long tail keywords are really important to find. I normally use Wordtracker for my keyword research.

        Best
        James
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    • Profile picture of the author James Seward
      Originally Posted by elle56 View Post

      That's a great list. I think niches in the finance and health arena are still hot. The challenge is streamlining the niche into long tail keywords. That's why research is very important.
      Hi Elle,

      Thanks for your message. Health and finance will always be hot niches, along with a few others like dating (it comes to my mind that one). Right now I am only looking for desesperate niches because in that area people tend to be, well, "desperate" and so I have a higher chance to make some money. I am looking for these niches as I am trying to make my first dollar online (apart from selling my services or WSO's, actually my first dollar as an affiliate, that is what I mean). I just want to "see" it works and after that I will dig into other niches. Actually finance is one of my favorite niches to write on (and debt also, i think they go along ). Thanks for sharing.

      Best,
      James
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  • Profile picture of the author Vikuna2009+
    Emphysemia,

    how much is a tank of air selling for these days :confused:? Seriously, my present client got it and she can't even walk 10 feet "ON AIR" without being totally exhausted for the next 5 minutes. THAT is my motivator for quitting smoking. Super-size it, please.
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  • Profile picture of the author Adrian Cooper
    I don't want to moralise, but I personally draw the line at exploiting people's misery.

    All my services are to pro-actively help people.

    I know these "desperate people" may need help, but is someone in this "misery niche" solely to make money out of a persons desperation really the person to provide it?

    These people need experienced, qualified help, not an eBook.
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    • Profile picture of the author Harry Behrens
      Originally Posted by apc01 View Post

      I don't want to moralise, but I personally draw the line at exploiting people's misery.

      All my services are to pro-actively help people.

      I know these "desperate people" may need help, but is someone in it solely for IM really the person to provide it?
      I agree... I say this as somebody who does look for and go after "desperate" niches a whole lot... one has to keep in mind there are degrees. There's the "college girl with a cold sore on her lip" kind of desperate, and then there's the "parent of a child with leukemia" kind of desperate. The first is fine and actually pretty profitable, the second one is on the other side of a line I'm personally just not going to cross.

      Besides, there's plenty of "desperation" out there that you'd never need to go after really life-or-death or miserable situations... for example if some guy is the only one of his WoW guild who doesn't have an epic mount, well I'm sure he suffers because of it, but I'm just fine with selling him a make-gold-fast guide
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      • Profile picture of the author James Seward
        Originally Posted by hmbehrens View Post

        I agree... I say this as somebody who does look for and go after "desperate" niches a whole lot... one has to keep in mind there are degrees. There's the "college girl with a cold sore on her lip" kind of desperate, and then there's the "parent of a child with leukemia" kind of desperate. The first is fine and actually pretty profitable, the second one is on the other side of a line I'm personally just not going to cross.

        Besides, there's plenty of "desperation" out there that you'd never need to go after really life-or-death or miserable situations... for example if some guy is the only one of his WoW guild who doesn't have an epic mount, well I'm sure he suffers because of it, but I'm just fine with selling him a make-gold-fast guide
        Hi,

        Well yeah there are many kind of "desesperate" people. I see no harm in trying to explore these niches because you are giving them a solution, trying to solve theirs problems. Isn't that what we are supposed to do, regardless of the niche? I mean do you think all (or any) guide that involves betting on something, poker guides or other guides directly related to gambling work? And what about weight loss guides, that anyone considers a good niche to work on, do all the ebooks or training guides, videos, whatever, solve the person's problem? And acne ebooks, do kids really get an acne-free face because of an ebook? I don't think so...

        And I could go on and on with examples. What you do provide is information, and that is what people are looking for. They want to know more about gambling tacticts, more about how to lose weight and more on how to fight acne, as they want to know more about leukemia or alzheimer's... It is just the way it is. The only difference is they look much more than any other niche because they are desesperate. In a way all niches can have desesperate buyers but some have more than others! WoW guides can be sold to "desesperate" players that just want to get their character as quickly as possible to the maximum guide. Panic attacks guides can be sold to anyone that want to learn more about them.

        Thank you for your message, I think that some people follow those rules because that is just the way it is. However this is how I see things. :rolleyes:

        Best
        James
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  • Profile picture of the author Harry Behrens
    Good thoughts, James. Like I said my reasons for not going into terminal-illness niches are personal, no need to go into them... but my point was that there are plenty of very desperate niches that aren't necessarily in that category. For example I would happily go into (actually, have already gone into to be exact ) all the niches you mention in your post except for the two illnesses.

    Regardless, you definitely have the right perspective as to finding prospects for your business. Also, if you have not read the ebook "Desperate Buyers Only" yet, I recommend it (no affiliation), you're sure to find a lot of what's in it useful.
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  • Profile picture of the author MrCruzin
    that list you posted is actually really nice.

    Here is some advice.
    when looking at it don't go with what you are seeing but see what you can do outside this list.

    use it to brainstorm your own ideas. Watch out for saturation.
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  • Profile picture of the author lozz1960
    So many great ideas. Thanks for the list
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  • Profile picture of the author Eric Stanley
    Glad to see everyone's putting the ideas to good use! There are plenty more niches like the ones I posted above to get crackin' on!
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  • Profile picture of the author James Seward
    Yeah Eric everyone seemed to love the list you posted! Thanks again

    Would you like to add a few more niches to the list?

    Thanks
    James
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  • Profile picture of the author Eric Stanley
    James, no problem. I will post an updated list soon!
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      Originally Posted by Eric Stanley View Post

      James, no problem. I will post an updated list soon!
      Awesome, I'll be watching out for that for sure
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  • Profile picture of the author Adrian Cooper
    I find it really worrying that people think they can become "instant experts" - or not even that if the book is ghost written - to prey on the needs of these desperate, miserable, suicidal people.

    I am in the self-improvement area, and 75% of my time is spent helping numerous people without expectation of reward, often taking hours, and 25% on my IM business which positively provide help to people who seek it.

    I mean, take "People with illnesses/aches/pains who cant find a solution". How can someone motivated only by selling a $37 eBook relieve them of their pain?

    I displaced two vertebra about 30 years ago and trapped the sciatic nerve which moves from time to time - that's real pain, and if I didn't know better and bought an eBook promising me instant relief, I would be very upset with the person who sold it to me - or sue them for misrepresentation.

    And this one really got to me:

    "People will spend huge sums of money getting sick pets back to health"

    I love animals and have pets and know how people feel if their beloved pet is sick. Are you seriously going to tell me that you would make a quick buck from these people to provide a few minutes of hope until they realised they got scammed to add to their misery?

    Such a person would be sub-human in my world.

    I can tell you "what goes around comes around" - and it really does - with immutable certainty.

    So what should you do.

    What are you passionate about?

    What are your hobbies?

    What are sports do you play?

    What dramatic events have you overcome in your life that you could share with others?

    These are the questions you should ask, because not only will a business like this thrive and expand to become something big, you are actually making people's lives genuinely happier and providing a genuine service.

    Please think about it - you have no idea of the consequences you could bring upon others and also upon yourself.

    I know what I have said will be unpopular, but I always tell it like it is, like it or not.
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    • Profile picture of the author jbsmith
      You are assuming that people are packaging information that is of no value, I don't think that should be the intent of anyone seriously looking at information publishing.

      Your level of success in ANY business will be in relation to the value you add to someone's life - if that value is a set of instructions for overcoming an illness that is well researched or based on experience, then why not target that audience?

      I operate in 4 different niche markets and every product is either the result of personal experience or has been thoroughly researched by myself or as part of the ghostwriting project - in fact I hired one ghostwriter for a project because he had more experience with the topic than I did - a great find.

      Publishing information that doesn't help is wrong...but getting paid for information that is solid, there's nothing wrong with that.

      Jeff

      Originally Posted by apc01 View Post

      I find it really worrying that people think they can become "instant experts" - or not even that if the book is ghost written - to prey on the needs of these desperate, miserable, suicidal people.

      I am in the self-improvement area, and 75% of my time is spent helping numerous people without expectation of reward, often taking hours, and 25% on my IM business which positively provide help to people who seek it.

      I mean, take "People with illnesses/aches/pains who cant find a solution". How can someone motivated only by selling a $37 eBook relieve them of their pain?

      I displaced two vertebra about 30 years ago and trapped the sciatic nerve which moves from time to time - that's real pain, and if I didn't know better and bought an eBook promising me instant relief, I would be very upset with the person who sold it to me - or sue them for misrepresentation.

      And this one really got to me:

      "People will spend huge sums of money getting sick pets back to health"

      I love animals and have pets and know how people feel if their beloved pet is sick. Are you seriously going to tell me that you would make a quick buck from these people to provide a few minutes of hope until they realised they got scammed to add to their misery?

      Such a person would be sub-human in my world.

      I can tell you "what goes around comes around" - and it really does - with immutable certainty.

      So what should you do.

      What are you passionate about?

      What are your hobbies?

      What are sports do you play?

      What dramatic events have you overcome in your life that you could share with others?

      These are the questions you should ask, because not only will a business like this thrive and expand to become something big, you are actually making people's lives genuinely happier and providing a genuine service.

      Please think about it - you have no idea of the consequences you could bring upon others and also upon yourself.

      I know what I have said will be unpopular, but I always tell it like it is, like it or not.
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      • Profile picture of the author James Seward
        Originally Posted by jbsmith View Post

        You are assuming that people are packaging information that is of no value, I don't think that should be the intent of anyone seriously looking at information publishing.

        Your level of success in ANY business will be in relation to the value you add to someone's life - if that value is a set of instructions for overcoming an illness that is well researched or based on experience, then why not target that audience?

        I operate in 4 different niche markets and every product is either the result of personal experience or has been thoroughly researched by myself or as part of the ghostwriting project - in fact I hired one ghostwriter for a project because he had more experience with the topic than I did - a great find.

        Publishing information that doesn't help is wrong...but getting paid for information that is solid, there's nothing wrong with that.

        Jeff
        Hi Jeff,

        I really liked your post, I agree with it, specially the last part:

        "Publishing information that doesn't help is wrong...but getting paid for information that is solid, there's nothing wrong with that."

        This is what I really wanted to say and make clear. Many thanks for your contribution.

        Best
        James
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      • Profile picture of the author Adrian Cooper
        Originally Posted by jbsmith View Post

        You are assuming that people are packaging information that is of no value, I don't think that should be the intent of anyone seriously looking at information publishing.
        Jeff
        The point is Jeff unless the maker of the eBook has considerable experience in the area then the book will have little or no value.

        How can someone with no experience in these specific areas or a ghost writer motivated only by money produce anything of real value?

        Any research will have come from Google anyway, and the reader can do that for themselves.

        People need real, experienced, qualified solutions to their serious issues.
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    • Profile picture of the author James Seward
      Originally Posted by apc01 View Post

      I find it really worrying that people think they can become "instant experts" - or not even that if the book is ghost written - to prey on the needs of these desperate, miserable, suicidal people.

      I am in the self-improvement area, and 75% of my time is spent helping numerous people without expectation of reward, often taking hours, and 25% on my IM business which positively provide help to people who seek it.

      I mean, take "People with illnesses/aches/pains who cant find a solution". How can someone motivated only by selling a $37 eBook relieve them of their pain?

      I displaced two vertebra about 30 years ago and trapped the sciatic nerve which moves from time to time - that's real pain, and if I didn't know better and bought an eBook promising me instant relief, I would be very upset with the person who sold it to me - or sue them for misrepresentation.

      And this one really got to me:

      "People will spend huge sums of money getting sick pets back to health"

      I love animals and have pets and know how people feel if their beloved pet is sick. Are you seriously going to tell me that you would make a quick buck from these people to provide a few minutes of hope until they realised they got scammed to add to their misery?

      Such a person would be sub-human in my world.

      I can tell you "what goes around comes around" - and it really does - with immutable certainty.

      So what should you do.

      What are you passionate about?

      What are your hobbies?

      What are sports do you play?

      What dramatic events have you overcome in your life that you could share with others?

      These are the questions you should ask, because not only will a business like this thrive and expand to become something big, you are actually making people's lives genuinely happier and providing a genuine service.

      Please think about it - you have no idea of the consequences you could bring upon others and also upon yourself.

      I know what I have said will be unpopular, but I always tell it like it is, like it or not.
      Hi,

      Of course you won't be unpopular! That is your opinion and you should stick to it and no one can call you a fool! Anyway I get your point and I totally understand what you are saying.

      As I said in an earlier post we are just providing information, that is what we do. We provide information in the form of ebooks, reports, articles, videos, podcasts, whatever. People want information and they pay for it, and we try to resolve a problem. Most of the times one ebook won't solve the problem but it might help the person. Let's talk about self-improvement as I do have some websites selling ebooks in that niche and currently it is my number two niche in terms of workload and focus. Anyway people get information about self improvement because they want to become better persons, they want to be more motivated, they want to be more successfull, learn to be more organized, manage their time more efficiently and so on. Will my ebook solve all their problems? Absolutely NOT! But it can help, it can provide some information to the person and help them develop a plan to whatever he is trying to achive, pick a few tips here pick a few tips there and make their own plan.

      As for desesperate niches, the same rule applies. People will always demand more and more information about a specific topic. What do you do when you want to know more about something?

      I strongly recommend you to read my eralier post as I talk about the same issues that you discuss in your message. Thanks for sharing your point of view, you actually added something to the discussion.

      All the Best
      James
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      • Profile picture of the author Adrian Cooper
        Originally Posted by James Seward View Post

        Hi,

        Of course you won't be unpopular! That is your opinion and you should stick to it and no one can call you a fool! Anyway I get your point and I totally understand what you are saying.

        As I said in an earlier post we are just providing information, that is what we do. We provide information in the form of ebooks, reports, articles, videos, podcasts, whatever. People want information and they pay for it, and we try to resolve a problem. Most of the times one ebook won't solve the problem but it might help the person. Let's talk about self-improvement as I do have some websites selling ebooks in that niche and currently it is my number two niche in terms of workload and focus. Anyway people get information about self improvement because they want to become better persons, they want to be more motivated, they want to be more successfull, learn to be more organized, manage their time more efficiently and so on. Will my ebook solve all their problems? Absolutely NOT! But it can help, it can provide some information to the person and help them develop a plan to whatever he is trying to achive, pick a few tips here pick a few tips there and make their own plan.

        As for desesperate niches, the same rule applies. People will always demand more and more information about a specific topic. What do you do when you want to know more about something?

        I strongly recommend you to read my eralier post as I talk about the same issues that you discuss in your message. Thanks for sharing your point of view, you actually added something to the discussion.

        All the Best
        James
        But James - ask yourself this - how are you qualified to help someone in that area?

        You are messing with peoples lives - literally.

        I receive many emails from people who are seriously at the end of their motivation to continue - some suicidal. It sometimes takes days of communication to help them to see the positives so they can move forward.

        These people are seriously disturbed and will do anything to change things around at any cost - even, as is often the case, they have no money.

        I don't need telling what to do because I have been doing it far longer than most of you, but always, always in the most positive way.

        I also write all my own material, straight from my Mind, based upon my own life experiences.

        You should never, ever write about something you do not have direct experience with and can offer something new and valuable, especially when you are dealing with the lives of real people.

        Consider this - and I am serious - your eBook may be their last hope before they kill themselves. How would that make you feel? Thing is though you would never know - all you would know is the 37 bucks you extracted from them before they took their own life.

        Seriously - many of these "desperate niches" are like that.

        Pet owners, such as myself, care deeply about our pets, and would do anything for them at any cost if necessary. Exploiting people with a sick pet is reprehensible.

        So what is the positive approach?

        How to keep your pet in the best of health.

        There - not so difficult is it, and that would provide a valuable eBook that could bring lots of happiness to people who love their pets.

        But only if you you are an expert in this area or knows someone personally who is who will cooperate with you.

        Here is a tip for you.

        If you wish to produce an eBook like this - say keeping your dog in perfect health - go find a local expert at the local breeders or dog clubs or whatever, tell them you want to help others to keep a healthy dog, and just interview them and find out as much as you can.

        Such people will talk for hours and be overjoyed at helping others to keep their much loved dog healthy. Take a voice recorder with you to record the interview so you can play it back as you write your eBook. You could even offer them a percentage of the profits.

        Then write a real, qualified and above all valuable eBook entitled:

        Dog Health Secrets of a Championship Winning Breeder

        I just made that up - but you see what I mean.

        You may well become so interested in the niche that you become involved and an expert in your own right, so you can take it further - a membership site perhaps.

        Again - this is the positive and fulfiling approach that can and will help lots of people.

        Or - how to keep your girl/boy friend satisfied - and I don't mean in the way you think

        Always look to improve the quality of life, not to exploit misery.

        Above all - only write from your own personal experience.

        Almost all successful IM businesses are based on a single niche in which the owner is an expert in some way.

        Everyone has some ability or experience to share with others.

        Example:

        Margie Garrison is a lady in her 70's living in Florida who suffered from chronic arthritis which is a very debilitating disease.

        So she researched and found a solution,and then shared it with others.

        She has made, even in her 70's now - she was 43 when she found the cure but only published it years later when the Internet made it possible - many millions of dollars from this one sales letter and eBook:

        Cure your Arthritis

        That is not an aff link.

        You see that is what it is all about.

        One solution you can share from experience, one business.

        If you put your Heart and Soul in to a single website with the single objective of helping others based upon your own experience, or at least an expert you can liaise with, you will succeed beyond your wildest dreams.

        Much better that you are the expert with the passion, because it will be reflected in your eBook and sales letter, and your customers wll pick up on that and trust you enough to buy the eBook.

        If you choose to exploit misery, you will cause more misery, perhaps worse, and bring it upon yourself - and believe me - you will.

        That is what everyone should take away from this thread.
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        • Profile picture of the author Harry Behrens
          Originally Posted by apc01 View Post

          Here is a tip for you.

          If you wish to produce an eBook like this - say keeping your dog in perfect health - go find a local expert at the local breeders or dog clubs or whatever, tell them you want to help others to keep a healthy dog, and just interview them and find out as much as you can.

          Such people will talk for hours and be overjoyed at helping others to keep their much loved dog healthy. Take a voice recorder with you to record the interview so you can play it back as you write your eBook. You could even offer them a percentage of the profits.

          Then write a real, qualified and above all valuable eBook entitled:

          Dog Health Secrets of a Championship Winning Breeder
          This is, of course, what I (and, I'm pretty sure, most people) have been assuming would be done from the very beginning of the thread. The point here is to find those topics or niches where you can go and do that

          As for the whole misery and suicide thing, wow, I can only point you over here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black-and-white_fallacy

          The informal fallacy of false dilemma (also called false dichotomy, the either-or fallacy) involves a situation in which only two alternatives are considered, when in fact there are other options. Closely related are failing to consider a range of options and the tendency to think in extremes, called black-and-white thinking. Strictly speaking, the prefix "di" in "dilemma" means "two". When a list of more than two choices is offered, but there are other choices not mentioned, then the fallacy is called the fallacy of false choice, or the fallacy of exhaustive hypotheses.
          "Suzy is desperate to buy my book" does not immediately turn into "Suzy will kill herself if my book doesn't fix her life." Like has been said numerous times already in the thread, there is a whole range of issues in the world, and you can easily leverage the concept of desperation in the buyer without ever going anywhere close to situations of real misery or suicide.
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          • Profile picture of the author Adrian Cooper
            Originally Posted by hmbehrens View Post

            This is, of course, what I (and, I'm pretty sure, most people) have been assuming would be done from the very beginning of the thread. The point here is to find those topics or niches where you can go and do that
            Well that is correct.

            All I am saying is that there are niches, such as the ones mentioned, where people will purchase out of desperation - which after all is the topic of the thread - and no one should take advantage of people in that way from a moral and ethical perspective.

            Of course that is my own view because my main objective in life is to help people either because they come to me and ask or help, or for all the positive reasons.

            If you believe these desperate people are fair game to make a buck, then of course that is your opinion, and you - have to live with the consequences. An observation, not meant to scare you.

            But consider this - your eBook might be their last hope - what will they do if it does not live up to the sales letter? These are questions that everyone should ask themselves.

            As for the content itself - if you have to "go find a niche" then you are not an expert in that niche - it is as simple as that.

            You are looking for a niche to "make money online" not to help people.

            The helping people should be the primary motive, and if you succeed then the money will come - trust me it will.

            Every truly successful IM business, without exception has one factor in common - they are passionate and knowledgeable about their products. Most of these IM businesses make millions of dollars per year and increasing.

            But at the same time, following on from the point you made which is completely valid I would say this:

            If you intend to make a product in a niche you know nothing about, you must find someone who does. If you hire someone on eLance they will usually be people who specialise in writing - not the niche itself.

            So my suggestion is go find the experts in your area, through the clubs etc who are experts, arrange to meet with them, take a voice recorder and a list of questions, interview them and right there is your knowledge.

            These people can talk all day about their passion, and have lots of knowledge you can pass on to your own customers.

            I hope everyone sees where I am coming from now.

            But whether you do or not at least understand that I come from 33 years in business, 21 years in the Internet and 12 years in IM - I only want to help Warriors - if you don't want to be helped then fine, but don't have a go at me just because you can't agree.
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    • Profile picture of the author SteveJohnson
      Originally Posted by apc01 View Post

      I find it really worrying that people think they can become "instant experts" - or not even that if the book is ghost written - to prey on the needs of these desperate, miserable, suicidal people.
      Who said everyone who is desperate or miserable is suicidal?

      I am in the self-improvement area, and 75% of my time is spent helping numerous people without expectation of reward, often taking hours, and 25% on my IM business which positively provide help to people who seek it.
      You mean desperate, miserable people who want to improve their lives? Surely you're not talking about those people.

      I mean, take "People with illnesses/aches/pains who cant find a solution". How can someone motivated only by selling a $37 eBook relieve them of their pain?
      Because maybe that's not all his motivation is? Who are you to make that judgment? Did you know that there are natural treatments for toenail fungus that doctors won't tell you about because they think you should take drugs? A person very close to me cured a very bad case within 6 months with some simple items and daily attention. Maybe someone who doesn't want to take drugs would like to know about this solution? It's not really common knowledge...

      I displaced two vertebra about 30 years ago and trapped the sciatic nerve which moves from time to time - that's real pain, and if I didn't know better and bought an eBook promising me instant relief, I would be very upset with the person who sold it to me - or sue them for misrepresentation.
      There are 1,346 books on "back pain" on Amazon, a couple of them classed as best sellers. Lucky whoever wrote them didn't pay attention to your advice. Someone who was helped might not have been helped.

      And this one really got to me:

      "People will spend huge sums of money getting sick pets back to health"

      I love animals and have pets and know how people feel if their beloved pet is sick. Are you seriously going to tell me that you would make a quick buck from these people to provide a few minutes of hope until they realised they got scammed to add to their misery?

      Such a person would be sub-human in my world.
      I had a mini-weenie dog for almost 15 years. When he was 10, he developed back problems. Vets wanted to operate, fuse his spine. Went to 6 of them, spent almost $1,000 on diagnoses, muscle relaxants, blah blah. Complained about the $$$ to my chiropracter one day who said "Bring him in." Did that, 4 treatments later he was running around like he was 3 again.

      Wish someone had offered me that information, I'd have bought it in a heartbeat. Now, I tell everyone I know who has an animal with back problems to talk to my chiro. He's developed a pretty thriving animal treatment sideline over the years. Shoot - he even works on horses.

      I can tell you "what goes around comes around" - and it really does - with immutable certainty.
      Yeah, it does. If the information you have helps someone, it's one tick mark in the universe's scoresheet.

      What are you passionate about?
      Helping people with their back pain, helping people get off anti-depressants, helping people with pets who are sick.

      What dramatic events have you overcome in your life that you could share with others?
      A close relative suffered from chronic depression for years, controlled by anti-depressant drugs whose side-effects were, in her words, "almost as bad as the depression." She found a way, through lifestyle changes and other methods, to control her depression without drugs. You saying no one should know about it because what she did might not work for everyone?

      These are the questions you should ask, because not only will a business like this thrive and expand to become something big, you are actually making people's lives genuinely happier and providing a genuine service.

      Please think about it - you have no idea of the consequences you could bring upon others and also upon yourself.
      Yeah, do think about it - because the information you're hoarding or know how to find could help vast numbers of people. But only if you find some way to let people know you have it.

      I know what I have said will be unpopular, but I always tell it like it is, like it or not.
      Bah. You're being a naysayer, telling it like what you believe it to be, based on your own values and motivations - which appear to be skewed toward skepticism and fear of snake-oil.

      Nothing in the world wrong with having your opinion. But if all of the sellers of information in recorded history were to have taken the same sort of advice, we'd likely still be living in mud huts.
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      • Profile picture of the author Adrian Cooper
        Originally Posted by SteveJohnson View Post

        Who said everyone who is desperate or miserable is suicidal?
        They may not always be suicidal, but desperation and misery go hand in hand.

        I deal with people like this all the time as part of what I do.

        There are 1,346 books on "back pain" on Amazon, a couple of them classed as best sellers. Lucky whoever wrote them didn't pay attention to your advice. Someone who was helped might not have been helped.
        That does not necessarily mean they were effective - just good sales letter and plenty of affiliates.

        That said, if they were written by people with back pain and found a solution, then that is excellent. In fact can you please give me the titles

        Bah. You're being a naysayer, telling it like what you believe it to be, based on your own values and motivations - which appear to be skewed toward skepticism and fear of snake-oil.
        Values and motivations has zero to do with it.

        75% of my time is spent helping people who ask for it and need it, the other 25% on positive IM.

        My comments are based on my experience of the people these "desperate" eBooks are aimed at. Trust me - by the time you have dealt with a few suicidal people who had no one else to turn to, because no one else cared, then you would appreciate what I am saying.

        I think that any book that genuinely helps people are great. But what is being discussed here is finding groups of desperate people to cobble together an eBook without any experience - or have it ghost written by someone without any experience - and touting it as a "solution" to their misery. Now that is not acceptable to any normal human being.

        It is simple - if you have something profound to share -and most people do - then write an eBook and make it your primary niche, in the process building a big IM business and genuinely helping others - it is a win-win situation.

        Why cannot people see that?

        Nothing in the world wrong with having your opinion. But if all of the sellers of information in recorded history were to have taken the same sort of advice, we'd likely still be living in mud huts.
        No - we are not talking about people writing information generally, this thread is about how to profit from misery with no qualified knowledge with which to base that "solution" - big difference. People like that should be living in mud huts.
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    Healthy, Wealthy and Sexy.
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    • Profile picture of the author James Seward
      Originally Posted by BlueSquares View Post

      Healthy, Wealthy and Sexy.
      Hey,

      Yeah I call it the HWS moeny formula: Health, Wealth and Sex! Can't go wrong with those niches.

      Thanks for sharing.

      Best
      James
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    • Profile picture of the author Adrian Cooper
      Originally Posted by James Strong View Post

      Good niche - men who can't get laid.

      I doubt you can sue someone over this.
      Actually you can.

      Anyone who writes a sales letter claiming a solution that canot deliver in the eBook can get sued for misrepresentation and psychological damage.
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  • Profile picture of the author seobro
    Eric said "Get your ex back or Save your Relationship"

    This is an excellent niche - getting back your girlfriend. Which you probably lost due to the fact that you have to work overtime every single day.
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    • Profile picture of the author James Seward
      Originally Posted by seobro View Post

      Eric said "Get your ex back or Save your Relationship"

      This is an excellent niche - getting back your girlfriend. Which you probably lost due to the fact that you have to work overtime every single day.
      Hey,

      Well yeah! I know my wife isn't happy with me spending so much time staring at my computer! How can you explain her that you are building a million dollar business? :p

      Thanks for sharing!

      Best
      James
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  • Profile picture of the author BrianE
    health and finance areas are very competitive "niches"
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    • Profile picture of the author James Seward
      Originally Posted by BrianE View Post

      health and finance areas are very competitive "niches"
      Hi Brian,

      Health and Finance are definetely competite niches but if you manage to go "nichier" it actually might work for you. Because to be honest the money is on the most competite niches. You just have to trim it down to a smaller niche.

      Thanks for your post.

      Best
      James
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  • Profile picture of the author nick1123
    Instead of trying to make a list of desperate niches perhaps you should step back and try to identify what kinds of people are motivated. Try to determine what makes them motivated.

    If you do this you will be to generate a very long list of these desperate niches.

    Below is the list of keywords that highly motivated people include in their searches:
    buy
    sell
    learn
    remedy
    cheap
    low
    make
    discount
    find
    stop
    quit
    fast
    care
    tips
    get rid
    how to

    Try to find people who were using these terms in their searches.

    For those who are interested I've covered this a little more detail on my blog:
    How to use the right trigger words for targeted traffic
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    • Profile picture of the author James Seward
      Originally Posted by nick1123 View Post

      Instead of trying to make a list of desperate niches perhaps you should step back and try to identify what kinds of people are motivated. Try to determine what makes them motivated.

      If you do this you will be to generate a very long list of these desperate niches.

      Below is the list of keywords that highly motivated people include in their searches:
      buy
      sell
      learn
      remedy
      cheap
      low
      make
      discount
      find
      stop
      quit
      fast
      care
      tips
      get rid
      how to

      Try to find people who were using these terms in their searches.

      For those who are interested I've covered this a little more detail on my blog:
      How to use the right trigger words for targeted traffic
      Hi,

      Thanks for sharing. I normally use those words to find some hot niches that I didn't even think of in the first place. So I know it DOES work.

      Best
      James
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    • Profile picture of the author Adrian Cooper
      Originally Posted by nick1123 View Post

      Instead of trying to make a list of desperate niches perhaps you should step back and try to identify what kinds of people are motivated. Try to determine what makes them motivated.

      If you do this you will be to generate a very long list of these desperate niches.

      Below is the list of keywords that highly motivated people include in their searches:
      buy
      sell
      learn
      remedy
      cheap
      low
      make
      discount
      find
      stop
      quit
      fast
      care
      tips
      get rid
      how to

      Try to find people who were using these terms in their searches.

      For those who are interested I've covered this a little more detail on my blog:
      How to use the right trigger words for targeted traffic
      I have thanked you for this Nick because yours if the right approach.

      How to quit smoking for example is perfectly valid, because it is an issue the person has brought upon themselves and needs help to fee themselves of.

      But again - never cobble together a bunch of info from Google - only right the book if you have quit smoking successfully yourself.

      You are wanting to help people who are wishing to improve themselves.

      Always encourage aspirations, never exploit misery.

      As I said before - because so many people get my newsletters - hundreds of thousands of readers each week - I receive many emails from people in big trouble in one way or the other, and I always devote as much of my time as possible to help them until their issues are resolved.

      Also - when I get emails from people in poor countries desperate for information to improve themselves and help their families, I always send the books for free, and usually all my books.
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  • Profile picture of the author Peter Ramos
    I would consider any desperate niche to be the following:

    Anything that includes for beginners...

    "Type any word here" for beginners



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    • Profile picture of the author James Seward
      Originally Posted by Peter Ramos View Post

      I would consider any desperate niche to be the following:

      Anything that includes for beginners...

      "Type any word here" for beginners



      Peter
      Hi Peter,

      Yeah I definetely agree. Any niche works with newbies because they really want to get their hand on information as fast as possible.

      Thanks for sharing, I didn't think of this in the first place.

      Best
      James
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    • Profile picture of the author Adrian Cooper
      Originally Posted by Peter Ramos View Post

      I would consider any desperate niche to be the following:

      Anything that includes for beginners...

      "Type any word here" for beginners
      Peter
      That is not the same as misery.

      Never exploit misery of any description. It will bite you and you would deserve it.
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  • Profile picture of the author JeffKing58
    The good niches are the ones you see every day right in front of you. I'm talking about the most "competitive" ones. They are competitive for a reason. Because people are making a ton of money in them.
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  • Profile picture of the author joelraitt
    This is true, you do want to follow the money, have you looked on clickbank yet? Under the marketplace tab? That will list a lot of niches and show you how much they are selling. Search for ones with high gravity. Also, get accepted into CPA networks and browse what they have to offer. That should get the juices going.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve L
    "different strokes, for different folks"... "variety is the spice of life" sometimes people are just looking for different opinions on various subjects, also... no book will satisfy 100% of it's readers, you can't please everybody.

    you don't need to know more than everybody else on a certain topic in order to write about it, you just need to know more than most people.
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  • Profile picture of the author Eric Stanley
    I will be posting a few more niches really soon. I came across a great list of recession based niches for everyone.
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  • Profile picture of the author freakonaleash
    people with bad credit and some financial issues
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  • Profile picture of the author cimbah
    Having a father who just died of leukemia in January, some ideas on this thread really turn my stomach.
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  • Profile picture of the author Clark
    Any merchandise regarding Michael Jackson.

    All sold out in my neck of the woods... nothin', no albums, T-Shirts, nothin'.

    Fanatics (Fans) were desperate to get their hands on anything they could/can find.

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    I recently bought an $80/a membership to a website that grants access to UFC Pre-Sale tickets. Then I proceeded to pay $750 for the tickets

    There was no time to cherry pick seats either otherwise, they'll get snapped up quick by the other rabid fanatics with the same mindset as me. I honestly DID NOT CARE about the cost... I was desperate to get those tickets secured 'cause I was going to the event no matter what... even if I had to pay double from scalpers.

    Add cost of Hotel, travel, food, BEER etc and I spent a few grand in a couple days without batting an eyelash at the cost to me. I was after the experience of being there and also the rush that the sport gives me... no regrets at all... had a great time living life which, to me is...PRICELESS.

    Guilty Pleasures / Healthy Addictions is where you'll find frivolous buyers like me

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  • Profile picture of the author jaiganeshv.com
    Based on the trends and google results you could find more and more such longtail keywords..
    I'm just preparing a list for myself..

    Thank you.
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