Newbie looking for advice

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Hey guys brand new to the world of making money online!

Was just really wondering if you guys could point me in any direction to get me started! - perhaps if you know of any systems that have worked for you!

I have recently used google sniper.... didnt work

Currently on PTC making small cents

So anything would help really!

Thanks
Chris
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  • Profile picture of the author Shaneman
    Focus on list building in a niche that is both popular and your interested in.

    Share helpful content with your list and then market related products of your own or other peoples products to your list.

    chrisfarrellmembership.com is a great paid membership website that is excellent for people who are just starting out. Things are explained clearly and step by step there.

    All the best with your online activities.
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    • Profile picture of the author rudi
      Products like Google sniper offer what they claim to be a quick and easy way to cash. Sadly it just doesn't work like that.

      It takes a lot more planning and effort to make a living online. I am not a great believer in all these membership sites that charge between $20 and $500 per month for "insider secrets". The fact is they are in general all the same but reworded and rebranded. I am not saying they are useless, but be careful what you pay for.

      I started out by searching for free training which there is a fair bit around and then joined a mentors coaching program after about a year which admittedly cost me a lot of money. However it was value for money with real world seminars, 1 to 1 coaching and seminars.

      As a newbie, take a look around at some free training, learn about picking a niche, finding keywords, building a website, building links, and most importantly building an email list.

      The list will be your key to long term success.

      Good Luck!
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    • Profile picture of the author xeningti
      Originally Posted by Shaneman View Post

      Focus on list building in a niche that is both popular and your interested in.

      Share helpful content with your list and then market related products of your own or other peoples products to your list.

      chrisfarrellmembership.com is a great paid membership website that is excellent for people who are just starting out. Things are explained clearly and step by step there.

      All the best with your online activities.
      hey thanks for your reply! sorry to be such a noob but is list building like building an email list ?

      thanks
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      • Profile picture of the author Shaneman
        Originally Posted by xeningti View Post

        hey thanks for your reply! sorry to be such a noob but is list building like building an email list ?

        thanks
        Yes, your exactly right. List building and building an email list are the same thing.
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        • Profile picture of the author xeningti
          Originally Posted by Shaneman View Post

          Yes, your exactly right. List building and building an email list are the same thing.
          ah i see right i get you, the only thing is the niches im interested in i dont feel would make much money for example (music).... and the ones that do make money are completely dominated.... thats how im stuck! hmmm
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          • Profile picture of the author Shaneman
            You would need to find the right traffic places where music fans spend their time.

            Maybe become active in some music forums and music facebook groups by being friendly and helpful. Over time these people will begin to know like and trust you, some of these people will end up being on your list.

            You could have your own music blog and every time you post content, you tell the people on your email list to see the content on your music blog and encourage them to comment.

            Then one day survey your list, ask them exactly what music content they are interested in - then you could create your own music membership website based on the survey results.

            This takes time, but it is good to have a long term plan to work towards - then you can take the steps to reach your desired outcome.
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          • Profile picture of the author IanGreenwood
            Originally Posted by xeningti View Post

            ah i see right i get you, the only thing is the niches im interested in i dont feel would make much money for example (music).... and the ones that do make money are completely dominated.... thats how im stuck! hmmm
            I'm surprised that you say the music business wouldn't make you much money? :confused:

            The music business has been hugely profitable for countless millions of people since the days of the Renaissance in the 14th century. And, right now it's a billion dollar business with loads of rabid fans and buyers. Even half decent local bands have a following. Everyone from instrument builders to venue operators to publicity agents to radio stations to music teachers to costume designers to composers to critics to record labels, to producers to recording studios to merchandising companies to...

            and this is all before we get to the performers!

            I can think of 10 ways to plug into this off the top of my head...
            1. Buy and sell used CD's on eBay.
            2. Copy and sell PDF versions of Public domain sheet music.
            3. Charge local musicians to make short promo videos and put them up an Youtube.
            4. Interview (and record) local musicians talking about how they became professional performers, and sell audios online as a monthly course.
            5. Team up with a local music teacher to video and sell music tuition video courses.
            6. Interview local music teachers and from this create a (ebook) guide for parents looking to get music lessons for their kids.
            7. Team up with local musicians to record and sell backing tracks online.
            8. Run a forum online for musicians looking for bands and bands looking for new members. You could easily start this by publishing an monthly PDF newsletter you send out via email. Make the subscription free but charge a small fee to insert an "wanted" advert.
            9. Offer a service to create a digital "promo" kit (MP3 recordings, promo photos, contact details, bio's, etc) for musicians and produce them on disc for bands etc to send to agents, radio stations, etc.
            10. Offer a service to set up a social media profile for local musicians. Facebook page, twitter account, G+ page, Youtube channel, Flickr account. Offer weekly one to one training on how to generate and upload content and operate the various pages.

            Would any of these actually make any money? Some do already! I know a guy who does VERY well from running number 9 in his local area. And I know of someone (I don't know them personally) who makes a very decent living from home operating number 2. And these are all online or digital based businesses. There are even more offline businesses associated with music.

            The thing is, you don't know how well any of these will do until you try them and give them a go. There are thousands of opportunities out there. Don't be fooled into thinking that making money online is all about selling products like Google Sniper!

            Good luck.
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            • Profile picture of the author websense
              Originally Posted by IanGreenwood View Post


              I can think of 10 ways to plug into this off the top of my head...
              1. Buy and sell used CD's on eBay.
              2. Copy and sell PDF versions of Public domain sheet music.
              3. Charge local musicians to make short promo videos and put them up an Youtube.
              4. Interview (and record) local musicians talking about how they became professional performers, and sell audios online as a monthly course.
              5. Team up with a local music teacher to video and sell music tuition video courses.
              6. Interview local music teachers and from this create a (ebook) guide for parents looking to get music lessons for their kids.
              7. Team up with local musicians to record and sell backing tracks online.
              8. Run a forum online for musicians looking for bands and bands looking for new members. You could easily start this by publishing an monthly PDF newsletter you send out via email. Make the subscription free but charge a small fee to insert an "wanted" advert.
              9. Offer a service to create a digital "promo" kit (MP3 recordings, promo photos, contact details, bio's, etc) for musicians and produce them on disc for bands etc to send to agents, radio stations, etc.
              10. Offer a service to set up a social media profile for local musicians. Facebook page, twitter account, G+ page, Youtube channel, Flickr account. Offer weekly one to one training on how to generate and upload content and operate the various pages.
              I would also add making ringtones. Sell some, give some out free to subscribers, make your own, team up with local musicians to make them, promote them on Youtube, etc. In short, ringtones are nice freebies to bring in visitors, and also do well in sales.
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  • Profile picture of the author ryanbiddulph
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    Build your campaign on creating and connecting. Buy a self hosted Wordpress blog. Network with people from your niche. Make friends; promote their post, comment on their posts, comment on forums like Warrior. Engaging and creating makes all the difference, and will make you stand out from the crowd.
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  • Profile picture of the author gcbmark20
    Hi,

    1. Locate and uncover a PROFITABLE NICHE that has lots of spending BUYERS
    in them all year round, is EVERGREEN and has lots of potential for REPEAT BUYERS
    too.

    2. Set up a FREE gift that you can offer to these people who are actively looking
    for information in your chosen niche.

    3. This could be a report, video, MP3 recording etc.

    4. Invest in an email autoresponder and add your FREE gift to your first
    message in your email message A.R. so that your new leads get their FREE
    gift once they join your list.

    5. Start looking at where your ideal LEAD or potential future customer hangs
    out and start to tell them about YOUR OFFER or SOLUTION and get them
    onto an email list through your FREE gift.

    Now you can build the K.L.T. link with them...

    ...KNOW, LIKE & TRUST!

    Once this has been accomplished you can begin to recommend paid products
    and services that can HELP them achieve their goals, wants, needs & desires.

    NOW you MUST keep adding targeted leads and traffic into this funnel every single
    DAY!

    DON'T STOP!

    Before you know it you'll have a massive list that responds to your emails
    every single day and your incomes will grow alongside that trend as long as
    you have built that relationship with them first.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nick Lotter
    Evergreen niches will always have a lot of competition, but there's also always a lot of prospects, so don't let that stop you. Newbies often get a whole bunch of training but fail to get their feet wet because they are worried they can't find the right niche, so they stall at the first hurdle. Just go for it! There's no better way to learn than by taking action.

    Pick an evergreen niche like weight loss, relationships etc, research some common problems people face in that niche, research the solutions, write a short ebook, set up a squeeze page and offer the ebook free to get their email address and build a list. Then keep sending useful information to that list until you've built a good relationship with them. Then send out an email a week promoting an affiliate offer to your list.

    Simple and actionable. Just focus all your efforts on sending traffic to your squeeze page and building your list.

    Check out the all-in-one thread for traffic for tips on getting traffic to your squeeze page.
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    • Profile picture of the author Hawker19
      Originally Posted by Nick Lotter View Post

      Evergreen niches will always have a lot of competition, but there's also always a lot of prospects, so don't let that stop you. Newbies often get a whole bunch of training but fail to get their feet wet because they are worried they can't find the right niche, so they stall at the first hurdle. Just go for it! There's no better way to learn than by taking action.

      Pick an evergreen niche like weight loss, relationships etc, research some common problems people face in that niche, research the solutions, write a short ebook, set up a squeeze page and offer the ebook free to get their email address and build a list. Then keep sending useful information to that list until you've built a good relationship with them. Then send out an email a week promoting an affiliate offer to your list.

      Simple and actionable. Just focus all your efforts on sending traffic to your squeeze page and building your list.

      Check out the all-in-one thread for traffic for tips on getting traffic to your squeeze page.
      Terrific advise thankyou
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  • Profile picture of the author xeningti
    thanks so much for the help guys i kind of want to give affiliate marketing another bash its just the clickbank products are so unprofessional looking.... i don't know if thats what people actually buy! then i could maybe do physical products example... amazon.... im honestly lost! i like computers too if that helps! haha
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  • Profile picture of the author SeoApprentice
    I agreed with Link building is the first step to make real money. Having own product + build list from buyer build strong buyer list. That's where the gem lies.
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  • Profile picture of the author AffEngineer
    Best advice is to continue taking action. There are people making $100,000s with pretty much every method under the affiliate marketing banner. It's just a matter of finding something and sticking to it until you get it working. Try it 100 times before you give up. It's really just relentless action that stops new affiliates from making it.

    Some popular currently trending affiliate ideas are,

    - promoting CPA offers via FB
    - teespring + FB
    - mobile advertising
    - pay per call via google

    Just pick one, read read read, action action action and you'll get there

    Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author xeningti
    you guys are so helpful! honestly what a welcome! truly greatful im having a look at that tutorial and thinking about giving affiliate marketing another bash! thank you so much guys and i wish you the best of luck on your endeavors .

    Im keeping the post open just incase anyone has some ideas they would like to share

    Live the dream! £££
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  • Profile picture of the author AbdullahKaragoz
    The first 4 things you can do are these:

    1. Pick a market; but do a market-research first.

    2. Choose what you'll provide to this market; a service, free content, paid content, ebooks, tips, guides, tools, etc. etc.

    3. Set-up a list-building system: A squeeze page + auto-responder system + emails, etc. etc. you can search online these things and about how to build a "list-building system".

    4. Then drive traffic and market your website/business/service or product or what to call it.

    To drive traffic, you can use social media, you can use PPC/PPV, and there are a lot of methods to use. Some methods are outdated, and even will get your site to be blocked by Google. So use them by carefully.

    5. Learn more, build your business.
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  • Profile picture of the author Malteaser
    So watch out on do not start reaching out to every new shiny object out there. Pick a program and stick with it! This is what I will suggest to you for any program you decide to move forward with:

    1) Listen to 30 mins of successful mindset training to keep you going - u will struggle until you find success
    2) Find a mentor that will help you and take you by the hand and show you what you need to do in order to become successful
    3) Find a program/ some sort of marketing method that you resonate with in order to pour all the passion and energy you have in your work
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  • Profile picture of the author workoutstuff1
    Could you PM me what your goals are for your niche. I can probably give you some specific ideas without giving away your niche.
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  • Profile picture of the author onpointinfo
    You have received a lot of good advice, I will share a couple too !

    1) Build a site that you can capture leads from

    2) Seo your website

    3) Build a list / sales funnel leading to high end products / and keep selling to that list

    4) Decide on your primary way to get traffic to your site
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  • Profile picture of the author dmsumar
    Start blogging. Get a good auto responder like Pure leverage and start creating an email list. (you can PM me if you would like more info on Pure leverage and what they offer).
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  • Profile picture of the author Nuke07
    You can start offering your services in which you're skilled
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  • Profile picture of the author cyberzolo
    Try selling wholesale products on eBay. You cab make an easy $300-$500 a month from it.
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  • Profile picture of the author bmoore62
    My advice for any person just getting started (I hate to say "newbie; it sounds so condescending) is to get mentoring. If you're just starting out, you probably have no idea where to turn. When I started, I just bought product after product but had no real direction. I didn't get an focus until I found someone who has been where I want to be and is doing the things I want to do.

    I don't want to throw out any names, as different styles fit different people. Just do some research and find someone you feel comfortable with and someone who fits your budget. I could say go into affiliate marketing, but if you don't have the experience, you have no idea where to turn. I could say create your own products, but if you don't know how to do that, you're continuing to flounder.

    Just do your due diligence. I'm sure there are those who will disagree, but I can state from experience that once I actually got into a coaching program, I started seeing results. Don't try to go it alone. That's my best advice.
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    • Profile picture of the author jahm
      Originally Posted by bmoore62 View Post

      My advice for any person just getting started (I hate to say "newbie; it sounds so condescending) is to get mentoring. If you're just starting out, you probably have no idea where to turn. When I started, I just bought product after product but had no real direction. I didn't get an focus until I found someone who has been where I want to be and is doing the things I want to do.

      I don't want to throw out any names, as different styles fit different people. Just do some research and find someone you feel comfortable with and someone who fits your budget. I could say go into affiliate marketing, but if you don't have the experience, you have no idea where to turn. I could say create your own products, but if you don't know how to do that, you're continuing to flounder.

      Just do your due diligence. I'm sure there are those who will disagree, but I can state from experience that once I actually got into a coaching program, I started seeing results. Don't try to go it alone. That's my best advice.

      Hi Thanks for all the good info. Are there any names of any good coaching programs you recommend? Cheers Hector
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      • Profile picture of the author muckbusters
        Xeningti, Chris Farrell as Shaneman has stated on here or James Francis are both good honourable coaches. Chris Farrell is from the U.K. but lives in the U.S. and James Francis is based in the U.K. If you cannot afford a coach right now, just get yourself a blog and an autoresponder ( aweber has some good videos for starting a list) and go onto forums and add posts to help people. This way you will get known and liked and people will join your list.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jakie
      Originally Posted by bmoore62 View Post

      My advice for any person just getting started (I hate to say "newbie; it sounds so condescending) is to get mentoring. If you're just starting out, you probably have no idea where to turn. When I started, I just bought product after product but had no real direction. I didn't get an focus until I found someone who has been where I want to be and is doing the things I want to do.

      I don't want to throw out any names, as different styles fit different people. Just do some research and find someone you feel comfortable with and someone who fits your budget. I could say go into affiliate marketing, but if you don't have the experience, you have no idea where to turn. I could say create your own products, but if you don't know how to do that, you're continuing to flounder.

      Just do your due diligence. I'm sure there are those who will disagree, but I can state from experience that once I actually got into a coaching program, I started seeing results. Don't try to go it alone. That's my best advice.
      Hi, I'm looking for a coaching or mentoring program (as mentioned in your post) but do not personally know of any. I saw some names on the forum but not familiar with any of them. Is there a coaching program that has helped you be successful online?
      Thanks,
      Jakie
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  • Profile picture of the author mikeu1
    If possible get a coach that will lead you step by step and show you exactly what to do and when to do it. get someone that you can trust.
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  • Profile picture of the author cherrytom
    Hi Chris!
    Bob and Mike above are spot-on!
    All newbies should start off with a mentor!
    Unfortunately, a lot of us don't realize this until years down the road, by which time we've spend a lot of time, energy and money trying to make it on our own.
    I'm a typical example! I dread to think of how many years I wasted and of how much money I spent, trying on my own, without any success.
    A few weeks ago I finally realized that the ONLY way I would succeed was to find a mentor. A mentor won't coach you for free, but whatever you pay will be pennies compared to the shed-loads of cash you'll be making before very long!
    And Hector, if you PM me I'll tell you who my mentor is, and a short list of others that I know of.
    Keep smiling!
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  • Profile picture of the author ryanbiddulph
    Woohoo! Welcome to the crew.

    Spend 2-3 hours daily reading these forums, taking notes on the forums, and putting the notes into action. Treat this gig like college, or better yet, a job, where you show up, study, take notes, learn a new skill, then you see success.

    All the best!
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  • Profile picture of the author Jimmy Chen
    Chris,

    Two words.

    Traffic + Conversion.

    Master these and you'll be on your way to make money in online marketing.

    I would suggest ebay for a start.
    Personally, it's the easiest way to make your first $1.
    That's because you don't have to worry about Traffic.
    Almost the data on what to sell is available instantly.
    The downside is you have to deal with physical products
    from the inventory to shipping.

    If you want to get into information marketing,
    you could start off with Adsense.
    At this stage, you got to know how to get traffic
    to your sites. Google will handle the conversion for you.

    Once you get more experience in both traffic and conversion,
    then you could get into more advance stuff like affiliate marketing
    or even creating your own products

    Hope it helps...

    All the best buddy!
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  • Profile picture of the author sagittarius
    If you want to quickly make money online, there are lots of options. You can join PPD sites with CPA, although it'll gain you a few cents to a few dollars per lead. However, if you want to build a business, you can start small by promoting other people's products. You can spend less by investing on a hosting plan (a post from 2freehosting has been posted here, for a free hosting plan) and a domain (search for coupons to get one cheap).

    You can blog or build a site around something that you think interests you. Or to be sure that your topic is viable, do an effective niche research on a product and start promoting. It's not easy money so you've just got to be very patient. Build your own brand, be an authority of the niche you're in.
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  • Profile picture of the author JtxTop
    If I'm not wrong, Sniper is an old product that relies on SEO, SEO is much tougher now, a lot harder to make it work..
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    Can you scale up about your cents income? Maybe you need more traffic or buzz so your system can grow up.
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  • Profile picture of the author stews
    What's your interest and passion? and is it marketable. What are you interested in? Physical or digital product? Do you want an online store? Do you want to sell on amazon, Ebay, etc? Do you want to blog? If your just getting started and not sure of what path to take you may want to start with affiliate marketing. Take some time and do a little research with clickbank.com offerings. Doesn't cost anything. Good Luck!.
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  • Profile picture of the author rwhite10
    Start building a social media presence on Facebook, Twitter and Google+ for the niche you have chosen. Start blogging and writing quality content which will give your readers value.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nightengale
    Clarity is a HUGE part of IM success. I hope this post brings some clarity. It's so simple when you know it -- and darn difficult when you don't! I owe my mentors a world of thanks for bringing this clarity.

    IM is actually pretty simple: you can sell only one of two things:

    1. Products
    2. Services

    That's it!

    And selling products or services online happens in the same basic way for everyone, no matter what they're selling:

    Traffic > Opt-in page > Autoresponder series (or e-zine) > Sales page

    That's it! It's just that simple. (We IMers tend to overcomplicate things.)

    But no matter what your niche is, or whether you're selling a product or a service, do you know what your business model is?

    A business model is the framework or skeleton of your business. Essentially there are three types of online business models:

    1. Membership-based model

    A membership-based business model allows you to build a community of people (your members) who are as passionate about your subject as you are. Your membership fees can be monthly or annual, but either way, you're building recurring, passive income.

    There are a lot of resources and information out there to help you build a membership-based business if you're interested in doing this.

    2. Product-based model

    Selling products allows you to maximize your time and effort by selling items over and over again. This can be hard goods or it can be information products. Information marketing is it's own business model under the product-based model. Information marketing allows you to take your brain to the bank by creating a product ONCE based on what you know and selling it over and over again.

    Affiliate marketing falls under both models. You can choose to market either products or services as an affiliate.

    3. Service-based model

    Selling services can be great for 1) generating quick cash (as in the case of article writing or video producing) and 2) establishing your expertise and getting testimonials.

    However, in the long run, your goal should be to offer services at a PREMIUM. The biggest advantage of IM is LEVERAGE. You're able to leverage your time, money and expertise exponentially online. We all have just 24 hours each day. Time to get ruthless about what you expect for those hours you spend in IM each day. Expect more of yourself and more from your business friends, clients, partners, etc.

    What results are you getting for those hours you spend online each day? Ultimately, your services should be at the bottom of your funnel and cost the most since they involve your time and personal attention. (We all have a limited amount of time each day.)

    The fun (and confusion) comes in with all of the endless mix-and-match possibilities of the above models. If you're just starting or still struggling to make money, keep it simple:

    Pick just ONE!

    1. Pick ONE niche. (Something you're interested in and know something about.)

    2. Pick ONE target market for your product or service. (Who will buy what you're offering? The more specific you are, the more you narrow it down, the more successful you'll be.)

    3. Pick ONE business model.

    Now that you're clear about what business you're in, FOCUS! (And stop buying any info not related to your niche and target market, period!)

    F -- Follow
    O -- One
    C -- Course
    U -- Until
    S -- Successful


    And remember: build a list, Build a List, BUILD A LIST!

    In IM, it's easy to put the cart before the horse. Take a deep breath, step back and consider what type of business you REALLY want. Don't worry about getting traffic or buying that expensive traffic product until you know 1) what your business model is, 2) what niche you're in and 3) WHO your target market is!

    Successful business people will tell you that MARKETING is more than half the effort that's needed for success anyway. So pick a niche, target market and business model. Then spend most of your time and effort marketing it.

    If you DON'T have a solid plan or system, THAT'S when it's hard. A good system will shave YEARS (and save you big $$$) off of your learning curve

    That's why I recommend investing in at least one good, comprehensive IM course (or mentor who will give you such a system) instead of jumping from one $37 e-book to the next. A lot of people here complain about not being able to make any money. But neither are they willing to invest in their business. (Buying a random bunch of $37 e-books doesn't count.)

    The best thing I ever did was invest in a comprehensive IM course aimed at REAL business owners, not just other IM wannabes. Yes it was $1500. (It's no longer available.) But it was truly some of the best A-Z IM info I ever bought. Everything else I've learned (from the $37 e-books) since has simply been plugged into this system.

    My two best recommendations for phenomenal IM training programs are Ali Brown's Elevate program (ElevateBizTraining.com) and Jeff Walker's Product Launch Formula (ProductLaunchFormula.com)

    Get a solid plan or system and then work the plan!

    Hope this helps!

    Michelle
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  • Profile picture of the author naidyphoon
    Okay xeningti first off congratulations. Why? Because you've only purchased one product. Most people purchase product after product without taking action and they end up in this buying frenzy. It's good that you asked for advice and my suggestion would be to get a mentor that have achieved the results that you wish to emulate - if you can afford it that is.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ehsan Shujan
      Hi xeningti,

      I am pretty sure you have got your answer from all the previous posts. I myself have learned a lot from the answers too.

      I have tried a few things to earn money from online & managed to earn decent amount. But, everything i did earlier was just random. So, as per my mentor's suggestion i am working hard to prepare all necessary stuffs for building a list. I believe in my mentor cause he is one of the best in this biz.

      So, i would suggest you to start building a list. Don't waste your time & energy on other stuffs. Put your energy on list building. i wish you success
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  • Profile picture of the author Justin Ford
    Hello, I hope you are fine. I want to suggest you about blogging and affiliate marketing. Because i think blogger and affiliate marketer will earn more and more money every month. If you choose blogging then you can earn huge money from here with a great shearing information. And if you choose Affiliate marketing Business then you can earn Ton of money from here. I believe most time affiliate marketing business, Because i have great experience about it and i got great result from affiliate marketing business. So that i will advice you about Affiliate business.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nightengale
    Clarity is a HUGE part of IM success. I hope this post brings some clarity. It's so simple when you know it -- and darn difficult when you don't! I owe my mentors a world of thanks for bringing this clarity.

    IM is actually pretty simple: you can sell only one of two things:

    1. Products
    2. Services

    That's it!

    And selling products or services online happens in the same basic way for everyone, no matter what they're selling:

    Traffic > Opt-in page > Autoresponder series (or e-zine) > Sales page

    That's it! It's just that simple. (We IMers tend to overcomplicate things.)

    But no matter what your niche is, or whether you're selling a product or a service, do you know what your business model is?

    A business model is the framework or skeleton of your business. Essentially there are three types of online business models:

    1. Membership-based model

    A membership-based business model allows you to build a community of people (your members) who are as passionate about your subject as you are. Your membership fees can be monthly or annual, but either way, you're building recurring, passive income.

    There are a lot of resources and information out there to help you build a membership-based business if you're interested in doing this.

    2. Product-based model

    Selling products allows you to maximize your time and effort by selling items over and over again. This can be hard goods or it can be information products. Information marketing is it's own business model under the product-based model. Information marketing allows you to take your brain to the bank by creating a product ONCE based on what you know and selling it over and over again.

    Affiliate marketing falls under both models. You can choose to market either products or services as an affiliate.

    3. Service-based model

    Selling services can be great for 1) generating quick cash (as in the case of article writing or video producing) and 2) establishing your expertise and getting testimonials.

    However, in the long run, your goal should be to offer services at a PREMIUM. The biggest advantage of IM is LEVERAGE. You're able to leverage your time, money and expertise exponentially online. We all have just 24 hours each day. Time to get ruthless about what you expect for those hours you spend in IM each day. Expect more of yourself and more from your business friends, clients, partners, etc.

    What results are you getting for those hours you spend online each day? Ultimately, your services should be at the bottom of your funnel and cost the most since they involve your time and personal attention. (We all have a limited amount of time each day.)

    The fun (and confusion) comes in with all of the endless mix-and-match possibilities of the above models. If you're just starting or still struggling to make money, keep it simple:

    Pick just ONE!

    1. Pick ONE niche. (Something you're interested in and know something about.)

    2. Pick ONE target market for your product or service. (Who will buy what you're offering? The more specific you are, the more you narrow it down, the more successful you'll be.)

    3. Pick ONE business model.

    Now that you're clear about what business you're in, FOCUS! (And stop buying any info not related to your niche and target market, period!)

    F -- Follow
    O -- One
    C -- Course
    U -- Until
    S -- Successful


    And remember: build a list, Build a List, BUILD A LIST!

    In IM, it's easy to put the cart before the horse. Take a deep breath, step back and consider what type of business you REALLY want. Don't worry about getting traffic or buying that expensive traffic product until you know 1) what your business model is, 2) what niche you're in and 3) WHO your target market is!

    Successful business people will tell you that MARKETING is more than half the effort that's needed for success anyway. So pick a niche, target market and business model. Then spend most of your time and effort marketing it.

    If you DON'T have a solid plan or system, THAT'S when it's hard. A good system will shave YEARS (and save you big $$$) off of your learning curve

    That's why I recommend investing in at least one good, comprehensive IM course (or mentor who will give you such a system) instead of jumping from one $37 e-book to the next. A lot of people here complain about not being able to make any money. But neither are they willing to invest in their business. (Buying a random bunch of $37 e-books doesn't count.)

    The best thing I ever did was invest in a comprehensive IM course aimed at REAL business owners, not just other IM wannabes. Yes it was $1500. (It's no longer available.) But it was truly some of the best A-Z IM info I ever bought. Everything else I've learned (from the $37 e-books) since has simply been plugged into this system.

    My two best recommendations for phenomenal IM training programs are Ali Brown's Elevate program (ElevateBizTraining.com) and Jeff Walker's Product Launch Formula (ProductLaunchFormula.com)

    Get a solid plan or system and then work the plan!

    Hope this helps!

    Michelle
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  • Profile picture of the author elusian
    One thing that you said struck me. You said that you are not impressed with the current click bank products in the music niche. Why not create one yourself? If you give better value than what is currently out there, you can dominate.

    Creating an ebook is easy.
    Getting a cover made can be outsourced cheaply.
    The majority of what it would cost would be to hire a good copywriter.

    You can then go to website owners that are in the music niche and offer them a nice commission to talk about and promote your product on their sites and to their lists.

    I agree that productlaunchformula.com is a good place to start for training in this area.

    Also feel free to PM me if you need some guidance. Creating products is one of my passions. I would be happy to offer some guidance, if you like.
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  • Profile picture of the author Javisito
    Originally Posted by xeningti View Post

    Hey guys brand new to the world of making money online!

    Was just really wondering if you guys could point me in any direction to get me started! - perhaps if you know of any systems that have worked for you!

    I have recently used google sniper.... didnt work

    Currently on PTC making small cents

    So anything would help really!

    Thanks
    Chris
    Pick a niche, build a list and monetize that list.

    What you want to do first thing after you chosen a niche is to create your own product. Now a lot of people don't agree with me about making your own product but think about it promoting something you have made helps you to build authority because you are promoting your name.

    When it is done you want to create a website to sell it on and a way to capture emails and start building your list.

    PM me if you want help to get started.
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  • Profile picture of the author sr.20
    If you are getting started you want to be building a list, the basic system works like this ( traffic - landing page - thankyou page - CPA offer ( optional )

    Focus on one technique and get some results ( document your results with video or screen shots ) then you want to create a product to teach others how you did it.

    This will build you a buyers list and you continue to grow and learn

    I highly advise you get a mentor, this will save you time and money in the long run
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  • Profile picture of the author osamaye360
    Originally Posted by xeningti View Post

    Hey guys brand new to the world of making money online!

    Was just really wondering if you guys could point me in any direction to get me started! - perhaps if you know of any systems that have worked for you!

    I have recently used google sniper.... didnt work

    Currently on PTC making small cents

    So anything would help really!

    Thanks
    Chris
    My advice to you is to start on List building on any niche you are comfortable with. Do this together with any other business model you like.
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