How How How do you single moms do it?

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When my wife leaves me with the little one I can not spend more than a few seconds looking at the screen without him crawling on me, putting something in my face, touching the keyboard, sticking stuff in the outlet, etc. Just writing that I was interrupted 4 times.

There is no way I could create something, write, or do anything productive with him around. That's just one child.

How do you single Mom's do any marketing at all?
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  • Profile picture of the author eCovers4uGfx
    LOL Scott,

    My wife just read your post & could not stop laughing, I asked what she was laughing at & she reckons when it comes to children only a woman would not be bothered by the child climbing all over them whilst trying to work.

    As for me I remember the day when my eldest daughter now 9 was only 3yrs old & was sitting on daddy's lap eating an ice cream whilst I was trying to get a design out to a client in a hurry, and yes you guessed it, the ice cream fell straight off the top of the cone & onto the keyboard.

    All I could do was laugh & think to myself quietly '' oh this is going to be a doozy to explain to the client why his graphics are going to be late '' LOL

    Kudo's to mums, nothing seems to faze them.

    Regards,
    Chad-eCovers4uGfx
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  • Profile picture of the author DeanJames
    Never underestimate a woman's ability to multi-task and bring home the bacon

    They also make excellent stock traders ( usually a lot better than men on average ).

    Men are still great though. I'm one so I have to say that.
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  • Profile picture of the author deezine
    Dedication, Patience, Control, and Time Management all leading to the ability to multitask.

    For most moms I would gather that they would either conduct business when the little ones are sleeping, or find a toy or something to keep them occupied such as a stuff animal or coloring books.

    Acknowledge them every so often just to let them know that you are paying them some attention.

    We just find a way to make it work.
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    • Profile picture of the author hardwaresyndrome
      Originally Posted by deezine View Post

      Dedication, Patience, Control, and Time Management all leading to the ability to multitask.

      For most moms I would gather that they would either conduct business when the little ones are sleeping, or find a toy or something to keep them occupied such as a stuff animal or coloring books.

      Acknowledge them every so often just to let them know that you are paying them some attention.

      We just find a way to make it work.
      Looks like a good blog topic.
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  • Profile picture of the author findtips
    I was a Mr. Mom for many years and feel your pain. I hate to tell you this but if you try to do both, you'll end up irritable and risk taking it out on the child.


    A few tips for you:
    1. Schedule your work time around his naps.
    2. Play with him often. You don't want to miss out on this. It goes by fast.
    3. When he's close by and you want to still try to get something done, use easier things like quick tweets on twitter or cleaning your office, etc.
    4. Hire a neighborhood babysitter (we used a young teenager) to watch him a few hours of the day in your home. This way, you're still around to keep an eye on things.
    5. If you feel your temperature rising, walk away from the work and give him your attention. This is only fair to him. He needs a good stable father.
    Good luck! And by the way... it does get easier as they get a bit older and more self-sufficient. Mine started helping me with the business. Now, at Christmas time when we get real busy, we actually pay them! Yes, it's legal... we looked it up.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jagged
      Originally Posted by findtips View Post

      I was a Mr. Mom for many years and feel your pain. I hate to tell you this but if you try to do both, you'll end up irritable and risk taking it out on the child.



      A few tips for you:
      1. Schedule your work time around his naps.
      2. Play with him often. You don't want to miss out on this. It goes by fast.
      3. When he's close by and you want to still try to get something done, use easier things like quick tweets on twitter or cleaning your office, etc.
      4. Hire a neighborhood babysitter (we used a young teenager) to watch him a few hours of the day in your home. This way, you're still around to keep an eye on things.
      5. If you feel your temperature rising, walk away from the work and give him your attention. This is only fair to him. He needs a good stable father.
      Good luck! And by the way... it does get easier as they get a bit older and more self-sufficient. Mine started helping me with the business. Now, at Christmas time when we get real busy, we actually pay them! Yes, it's legal... we looked it up.

      Sounds like the makings for a product for the "single dads niche" lol
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      • Profile picture of the author ken_p
        Originally Posted by Jagged View Post

        Sounds like the makings for a product for the "single dads niche" lol

        i could totally see that.:p
        i guess, women are more patient with men, thats why they could tolerate all of this multi tasking.
        i dont think i will survive in it though.
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      • Profile picture of the author pgesystems
        Originally Posted by Jagged View Post

        Sounds like the makings for a product for the "single dads niche" lol
        LOL... that's one JV I'd jump on :p
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    • Profile picture of the author hardwaresyndrome
      Originally Posted by findtips View Post

      I was a Mr. Mom for many years and feel your pain. I hate to tell you this but if you try to do both, you'll end up irritable and risk taking it out on the child.


      A few tips for you:
      1. Schedule your work time around his naps.
      2. Play with him often. You don't want to miss out on this. It goes by fast.
      3. When he's close by and you want to still try to get something done, use easier things like quick tweets on twitter or cleaning your office, etc.
      4. Hire a neighborhood babysitter (we used a young teenager) to watch him a few hours of the day in your home. This way, you're still around to keep an eye on things.
      5. If you feel your temperature rising, walk away from the work and give him your attention. This is only fair to him. He needs a good stable father.
      Good luck! And by the way... it does get easier as they get a bit older and more self-sufficient. Mine started helping me with the business. Now, at Christmas time when we get real busy, we actually pay them! Yes, it's legal... we looked it up.
      And here is another one... thanks for the idea! On the serious note, it is correct that you make the most of your work while they are asleep. They are quiet and you can concentrate on whatever it is that you are doing. Hope this helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kim Davis
    I have been a single mom since my son was 2, he is now 15. I so don't miss the days of him pawing at me all the time. The older they get the better. I am liking this teenage stage. I get so much more time to myself now. It's much better when you get to go the bathroom alone.
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    • Profile picture of the author LynnM
      Originally Posted by Kim Davis View Post

      I am liking this teenage stage. I get so much more time to myself now. It's much better when you get to go the bathroom alone.
      I can't get into the bathroom for my 13-year old daughter hogging it!
      As to the original question - we manage because we have to.
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      • Profile picture of the author jasonl70
        Originally Posted by apc01 View Post

        Get the kid one of those toy electronic laptops that they can play kiddies games on - then they think they are doing the same as you.

        Only issue with that is, by the time they get to about 7, they want a real one

        And believe me these kids can really use PC's even at that age - better than adults in most cases.
        lol.. I forgot about that one! I gave my son one of my extra keyboards whenever he wanted to play on my computer, and that worked for about a year or so By the time he was 5, I got him his own pc.. when he was 6 or 7(first grade) he was makng his own powerpoint slide shows! He just turned 11 a few months ago, and has his own blog.
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        • Profile picture of the author MikeHumphreys
          I'll share a bit of my story and maybe it will give you some ideas that you can use working from home too.

          My kids are 3 and 1 and I've run my own business from home since before they were born.

          My wife has the solid job in corporate America with health insurance, etc. and I was the self-employed solo massage therapist (then) so when it came time to deciding who had to be the stay-at-home parent... well, let's just say I learned how to change a diaper faster than a NASCAR pit crew can change a tire.

          I made it a point initially to only work when my daughter (now 3) was sleeping/napping. That meant a lot of late nights working to meet copywriting deadlines. Once my business had some consistent cashflow, I hired a college student to watch my daughter during the day so I could get work done. At first it was only 5-6 hours a week but a few years later, it's now 20-25 hours/week of babysitting care so I can get work done during the day (mostly) and less 20-21 hour work/parenting days.

          Ran a WSO when my daughter was only a few months old... took the monies from the WSO and paid for part of the basement to be converted into an enclosed play area that my kids still use to this day. In return for paying for that home renovation, my wife agreed to give up her unused craft room so I'd have my own office to work from. More importantly, it has a door which I use to keep the kids out of my office when necessary or when we're expecting company (my office usually looks like a bomb went off).

          I bought a laptop when my daughter was 7 months old... took her about 2 weeks to grab the internet cord and pull it off the table while crawling around. That was 6 weeks in the shop and a fast reminder on why I need to set up a wireless network in the house pronto.

          My daughter quickly learned how to play with toys with dad sitting in the same room with her. Both of my kids when they were infants loved hanging out in an exer-saucer for 15-20 minutes at a time... just enough time to check email fast and knock out a quick reply if needed.

          They've gotten used to hearing dad play marketing audios in the background while playing blocks with them. You'd be surprised how much of it you retain even if you are only treating it as "background music". And some of the bad marketing stuff... well, let's just say you won't be disappointed that you didn't give them your full attention.

          Everyday I have my kids from 7-9 a.m. until the babysitter shows up... I do some light email but spend 90% of the time making them breakfast and playing with them. When they get up from their afternoon naps, I have them for a few more hours until my wife gets home from work. Then I volunteer to go cook dinner while she watches/plays/wrestles with the kids.

          They're in bed by 7-8 p.m. and my wife usually by 9ish (she's up at 4 a.m. to be at work by 6 a.m.) and the rest of the night is usually mine to schedule however I want.

          Long days? Sure. Sometimes 19-20 hours/day still. I make it a point to overestimate the time I need to do things simply to plan for the unexpected like the babysitter calling out sick.

          Despite the long days, I'm really enjoying spending the time with my kids and being self-employed too. It's time and memories that I'll treasure forever.

          Take care,

          Mike
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          • Profile picture of the author Jillian Slack
            It's also beneficial for your kids to see you working and learn from what you are doing.

            When they're young, of course they need your attention. Can't leave them alone for a second or they could get into some danger.

            But, as they get a little older, it's good for your kids to see that you are working and understand how to respect that fact. They need to learn that when you are on the phone, it's time to be quiet and only bother you if there's an emergency.

            Plus they see you setting goals, working toward them, and then setting new goals.
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  • Profile picture of the author rimam1
    I have a 2 year old and he goes NUTS over electronics, so it's impossible to work with him around. I guess they grow out of it though, so all is not lost. I just have to wait a few more years ;-)
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  • I was not self-employed when my son was young so I can't even imagine what it's like! Even now that he's almost 12 there are days where I lose my mind with the constant barrage of questions!

    Hats off to all moms & dads trying to work with little ones around!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author elle56
    My kids are in middle school so no more little ones climbing all over me when I'm working. The situation now is definitely a lot better than it was 5 or 6 years ago.

    I still have to schedule my work because I need to help them out with homeworks, projects and all. Plus, kids their age need a lot of guidance. I allocate quality time for bonding. Either I work early in the morning or late at night when kids are asleep. I don't think I'll be able to concentrate when I'm busy with mommy duties.
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  • Profile picture of the author jasonl70
    I've been raising my son by myself since he was 3 months old (he's now 11). And when I say by myself, I mean by myself - his mom is a total dead beat, and never had him for weekends or anything. The last time I even heard from her was the day before his 5th bday, and that was only so she could tell me she had 'forgotten' to forward all of my son's bday party invitations to her family - so no one was going to come to it. She never showed up herself, either.

    The only work from home I could ever do for years was when my son was sleeping. Otherwise, I gave him 100% of my time. Heck, besides cooking, everthing else waited until he was asleep. I felt so bad about him having to spend his days at day care while I was at work, that I tried to spend as much time as possible with him. To this day I can count on my fingers how many times I've left him with a babysitter - and have fingers left over LOL.

    I figure I was in a perpetual state of exhaustion for about 4 years

    ahh - enough soul baring and venting
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    • Profile picture of the author Adrian Cooper
      Originally Posted by jasonl70 View Post

      I've been raising my son by myself since he was 3 months old (he's now 11). And when I say by myself, I mean by myself - his mom is a total dead beat, and never had him for weekends or anything. The last time I even heard from her was the day before his 5th bday, and that was only so she could tell me she had 'forgotten' to forward all of my son's bday party invitations to her family - so no one was going to come to it. She never showed up herself, either.

      The only work from home I could ever do for years was when my son was sleeping. Otherwise, I gave him 100% of my time. Heck, besides cooking, everthing else waited until he was asleep. I felt so bad about him having to spend his days at day care while I was at work, that I tried to spend as much time as possible with him. To this day I can count on my fingers how many times I've left him with a babysitter - and have fingers left over LOL.

      I figure I was in a perpetual state of exhaustion for about 4 years

      ahh - enough soul baring and venting
      My respects to you Jason.

      I think you have to be in that situation to even begin to understand what it means.

      My wife almost never had the children or ever contributed financially. She loved the kids of course and is very intelligent - member of MENSA and all that - just no cut out for raising kids I guess.

      I don't blame her - without her I would not have been blessed with my children for the last 18 years, 14 of them by myself.

      I was totally alone as well. No relations nearby, no true friends, so it was myself and the kids.

      My greatest blessing of all was being with my three sons at home 24*7, raising them, watching them grow and become very high achieving, perfectly adjusted young men.

      My second son, 17 years, competes internationally and has the potential to make the Olympic Games, my youngest son, just finished his examinations is a straight A* student.

      Would not have it any other way and would do it all over again - after a break of course
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      • Profile picture of the author jasonl70
        Originally Posted by apc01 View Post

        Would not have it any other way and would do it all over again - after a break of course
        I agree 100%

        I got into IM/MMO because of my son... I couldn't stand not being able to spend time with him (summmers really killed me). I had to pull him out of a lot of activites when I worked for a large consulting company that decided we would all work 10 hour days and saturdays That's when I said no more, and within a year I walked away from a 6 figure job / career.
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    • Profile picture of the author findtips
      Originally Posted by jasonl70 View Post

      The only work from home I could ever do for years was when my son was sleeping. Otherwise, I gave him 100% of my time. Heck, besides cooking, everthing else waited until he was asleep. I felt so bad about him having to spend his days at day care while I was at work, that I tried to spend as much time as possible with him. To this day I can count on my fingers how many times I've left him with a babysitter - and have fingers left over LOL.

      I figure I was in a perpetual state of exhaustion for about 4 years
      Jason, that's just awesome! He's lucky to have you. It seems so many people neglect their children for their own selfish interests. They'll often use the "work" excuse, justifying it as putting food in their mouth and a roof over their head but so often they're not being honest with themselves. The years go by so fast and we've got to be good parents for them. Give them the attention they need. Play with them, hang out with them, love them unconditionally and live by example.

      Anyway, great post. You're a great role model.
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  • Profile picture of the author Adrian Cooper
    Originally Posted by Scott Ames View Post

    When my wife leaves me with the little one I can not spend more than a few seconds looking at the screen without him crawling on me, putting something in my face, touching the keyboard, sticking stuff in the outlet, etc. Just writing that I was interrupted 4 times.

    There is no way I could create something, write, or do anything productive with him around. That's just one child.

    How do you single Mom's do any marketing at all?
    I have raised my three sons alone as a single father for the last 14 years while running my IM businesses.

    Believe me, if you think one boy is a handful, three boys interacting with each other is like many orders of magnitude more of a handful

    When I was divorced, my youngest son was just 18 months.

    Be totally dedicated to your children first and then, and only then your IM.

    Life is as difficult as you make it.

    After my divorce everyone was throwing their hands in the air saying "there is no way a man can raise children", "what will he do", how will he earn money" and so on, but their reactions are the result of their own socio-economic programming and limited thinking.

    At no time did I think of this as a "problem" but rather as an opportunity and mission of Love.

    I take not only each day as it comes but each moment as it comes, never dwelling on the past or worrying about a non-existent future.

    My three sons are now teenagers aged 18, 17 and 16, everyone thinks they are wonderful, model kids, high achievers, and all now starting their first IM businesses.

    All I want is for them to be happy and free, and I know the IM route will bring that.

    I feel privileged to have been in this position, and would do it all over again.

    Just enjoy every moment as it comes.
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    • Profile picture of the author jasonl70
      Originally Posted by apc01 View Post

      everyone was throwing their hands in the air saying "there is no way a man can raise children"
      that one always rubs me.. I still get insulting questions like "how do you guys eat? do you actually cook?", "you guys probably eat a lot of pizza", "I bet you go through a lot of frozen food" and stuff like that. People also assume that a single dad for some reason doesn't establish boundaries for their childrens behavior, etc. - like your home is nothing more then a frat house or some den of mass chaos

      I even once had a daycare suspect me of kidnapping my son! And every year for the past 6 years the school has sent someone around from the courts to verify that my son actually lives with me!

      lol - I forgot I said I was done venting
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    • Profile picture of the author debra
      Originally Posted by jasonl70 View Post

      I've been raising my son by myself since he was 3 months old (he's now 11). And when I say by myself, I mean by myself - his mom is a total dead beat, and never had him for weekends or anything. The last time I even heard from her was the day before his 5th bday, and that was only so she could tell me she had 'forgotten' to forward all of my son's bday party invitations to her family - so no one was going to come to it. She never showed up herself, either.

      The only work from home I could ever do for years was when my son was sleeping. Otherwise, I gave him 100% of my time. Heck, besides cooking, everthing else waited until he was asleep. I felt so bad about him having to spend his days at day care while I was at work, that I tried to spend as much time as possible with him. To this day I can count on my fingers how many times I've left him with a babysitter - and have fingers left over LOL.

      I figure I was in a perpetual state of exhaustion for about 4 years

      ahh - enough soul baring and venting
      Wow...Jason...with all due respect to you.

      I've always thought of certian men as being dead beats...after reading your story, I guess that street can run both ways. I can't really imagine a mother being that way, I guess it's because it certainly is not in my character.

      Kudos

      Originally Posted by apc01 View Post

      I have raised my three sons alone as a single father for the last 14 years while running my IM businesses.

      Believe me, if you think one boy is a handful, three boys interacting with each other is like many orders of magnitude more of a handful

      When I was divorced, my youngest son was just 18 months.

      Be totally dedicated to your children first and then, and only then your IM.

      Life is as difficult as you make it.

      After my divorce everyone was throwing their hands in the air saying "there is no way a man can raise children", "what will he do", how will he earn money" and so on, but their reactions are the result of their own socio-economic programming and limited thinking.

      At no time did I think of this as a "problem" but rather as an opportunity and mission of Love.

      I take not only each day as it comes but each moment as it comes, never dwelling on the past or worrying about a non-existent future.

      My three sons are now teenagers aged 18, 17 and 16, everyone thinks they are wonderful, model kids, high achievers, and all now starting their first IM businesses.

      All I want is for them to be happy and free, and I know the IM route will bring that.

      I feel privileged to have been in this position, and would do it all over again.

      Just enjoy every moment as it comes.
      Try 10 of those buggers. lol

      8 boys and 2 girls.

      And...yep...I can bark military orders that would make bootcamp look like a walk in the park. Just ask the neighbors...LOL

      And...lovin every bit of it.
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      • Profile picture of the author GuruGazette
        Originally Posted by debra View Post

        And...yep...I can bark military orders that would make bootcamp look like a walk in the park. Just ask the neighbors...LOL

        And...lovin every bit of it.
        Military orders LOL! I'd forgotten that part! I did the exact same Regiment/routine, discipline... played major roles in keeping chaos at bay. I now have three of my four in the military and have been told bootcamp "feels almost like home" LOL

        10... good grief. My hat's off to you
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  • Profile picture of the author TelegramSam
    Hey guys,

    Deep respect to both of you (jasonl70 and apc01) for being able to do this.

    Seriously, I know how difficult this is. If you don't have kids, when you do, you will soon see how tough it can be at times. (But very rewarding).

    When my wife needs a break sometimes like a whole day off, I get to see just how tough it really is and there is no way I could get any work done on those days.

    I really love doing it actually - don't tell my wife though :-)

    Sam
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  • Profile picture of the author Adrian Cooper
    Just Love Life.

    Love your Children, Love your IM, Love the Freedom it brings, Live my the Moment and Follow your Passions.
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  • Profile picture of the author Shannon Tani
    This is an awesome thread!!

    I popped in thinking that I'd have a lot to say and instead have been reminded of some of the ways in which you may need to rearrange your priorities. Thanks!!

    As others have said, one of the biggest keys is time management. You need to know what you need to get done so that you don't waste time in the few minutes that you do have to work. Additionally, you have to simply accept that you may not be able to get to everything on your to-do list or that things may take longer than they would if you didn't have children.

    Again, I'd like to thank everyone who has contributed for doing so. This reminder has come at the perfect time for me.

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  • Profile picture of the author Sylvia Meier
    Kudos to single parents, it is a tough road to go, especially with multiple children.

    As a mom to 5 I know how fun it is to work with a toddler or two on my lap, a child needing this or that and everything else.

    I've taken at times to working on my laptop beside the stove while waiting for dinner to cook, or working during nap times, or after bed times and any other moment I could. Things get better as they get older, and now that most of mine are in some form of schooling at least part of the day it gets easier. But I still strive to spend time each day doing something special with them, afterall, they are only young for so long and the whole reason I chose this route was so I wouldn't miss all the things growing up, and even though at times it is impossible to work, I wouldn't have it any other way. Life and childhood are too short.

    Of course, I have also blown timeframes out of the water because of children doing this or that, I've lost some clients for things I couldn't avoid, but they are a large part of my life.

    Set a schedule, do your best to stick with it, if you can't...don't sweat it. I mean the whole reason for earning money is to support your children and live, so don't stress if sometimes life doesn't go as planned. It's not supposed to.

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  • Profile picture of the author summerm
    * Put the kid in the bathtub with a couple inches of water and a dribbling tap, and work next to him on the bathroom floor. You can probably get a solid uninterrupted hour of work out of this. (if you zone out when you work and the kid doesn't hold his breath when his head submerges, teach him to do that, first! this could take a few weeks)
    * Try working while standing. put your laptop on a shelf/banister. Often a toddler will tolerate a parent standing at a computer, even when he doesn't tolerate your sitting while working.
    * In a pinch, park him in front of a toddler TV program.
    * Put him in a preschool program for several hours a week.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ross Kenny
      I know exactly what you're saying.

      If you'd seen my house earlier. Both my kids sat under my computer table
      looking up at me watching me work.. Crazy.. They're 1 and 2 years old..!!

      They constantly jump up at me..

      The best thing to do is to work whilst they sleep and spend the waking time playing with them. Don't let the internet take over your life as I'm sure you already have heard the saying "They grow up too fast".

      Maybe look at outsourcing some of your tasks and only concentrate on the ones you can get done in the spare few hours you get at night..

      Get the kids in nursery!! Works for me.. You'll be amazed at how much work you can get done when you have 100% concentration on your projects...
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    • Profile picture of the author Adrian Cooper
      Originally Posted by summerm View Post

      * Put the kid in the bathtub with a couple inches of water and a dribbling tap, and work next to him on the bathroom floor. You can probably get a solid uninterrupted hour of work out of this. (if you zone out when you work and the kid doesn't hold his breath when his head submerges, teach him to do that, first! this could take a few weeks)
      * Try working while standing. put your laptop on a shelf/banister. Often a toddler will tolerate a parent standing at a computer, even when he doesn't tolerate your sitting while working.
      * In a pinch, park him in front of a toddler TV program.
      * Put him in a preschool program for several hours a week.
      Get the kid one of those toy electronic laptops that they can play kiddies games on - then they think they are doing the same as you.

      Only issue with that is, by the time they get to about 7, they want a real one

      And believe me these kids can really use PC's even at that age - better than adults in most cases.

      When my eldest son was 10, he used to teach the teachers how to work their PC's, fixed them if they broke, and managed the school network if the computer dealer could not make it.

      My house looks like NASA these days with all the stuff we have between us
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  • Profile picture of the author simplei
    hehehe. i have a 2 yr old son, i dont know how my wife survive a day with our kid. he is all over the whole house as well as his toys, everytime we spend time together without his mom. but when i come for home after the day job, my wife and my son and the house are all in place and everything. yeah, i dont know how my wife d it. althought she not single mom.
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  • Profile picture of the author thomashoi
    Thanks for all the excellent tips from the moms! I'm a stay at home dad and too have problems taking care of my 7 month old daughter. Basically she screams for attention when
    she woke up.

    I can only work on my laptop during the time when she's asleep.

    But then, she's the motivation that I can continue with my Internet marketing business.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sylvia Meier
    Debra...10!!! As in 10 kiddos? I thought my bunch was big...yours is double. Kudos to you...not only for raising them...but having them...yikes...

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  • Profile picture of the author Fernando Veloso
    I know exactly what you mean Scott. My youngest is a similar "ready to attack" child. My advice is: enjoy those moments with your kid and forget computers for a while.

    Just enjoy it.
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  • Profile picture of the author GuruGazette
    From what I can see here, other parents already know my "secret" tip: Stop sleeping

    Seriously, when I got divorced I had 4 kids under the age of 11. I worked a full time job while starting my business, and I literally slept 2-3 hours a day/night for the entire first year. Combined with time management - that year forced me to get organized to the point of even writing the kids bath time on my schedule book - is what pulled me through.
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