Has anyone studied marketing or bussiness?

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I was just wondering if anyone on this forum actually have studied marketing? Or som bussiness class maybe?

And have you had any help from that education, when building your IM bussiness?
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  • Profile picture of the author Chosen2013
    I haven't studied marketing or business, but I'm sure it would help getting better results with IM.
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    • Profile picture of the author serryjw
      I am no sure why you are asking. Academia gives you a great base of knowledge but IM/technology moves way to fast to be in a education environment. AFTER you graduate keep learning online as FOSU said.
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  • Profile picture of the author fosu
    Since 2006 till now, all studies I have it was done from home.

    Buying tools and software
    Buying course video related IM courses
    assist to Webinar and conference
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    A lot more......

    I am very well equipped with tools and software for my online business, but what I realise is the learning curve for me will never stop....due to the new technology.....You must be up-to-date or your business crash slowly.....

    (i.e If you have a website rank in first page of google, and you earn from this site, and if you are not up to date with what happen in term of contents and Seo, one day Google de-index or ban your site without letting you know, discovering that day you will be very disappointed when you see that month earning).
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  • Profile picture of the author WebPen
    Originally Posted by Edlund88 View Post

    I was just wondering if anyone on this forum actually have studied marketing? Or som bussiness class maybe?

    And have you had any help from that education, when building your IM bussiness?
    I've taken "real" business classes. It can definitely help, but ultimately your success depends on taking action on what you've learned in those classes.

    For example, traditional marketing classes will teach you about market research, changing markets, etc. But if you don't actually find out who your target customer is and what they want, you're gonna struggle.
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  • Profile picture of the author Yadira Barbosa
    I got several brick and mortar business, and study marketing on my own.

    I start a marketing business master degree until I notice my teachers never had a business and I read more marketing material, books and most important: I implement my knowledge on my business and they don't, so I drop the master degree and continue my self education.

    You can learn for yourself but the secret it's implementation, and yes, offline marketing improve your results on internet marketing.
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  • Profile picture of the author discrat
    Originally Posted by Edlund88 View Post

    I was just wondering if anyone on this forum actually have studied marketing? Or som bussiness class maybe?

    And have you had any help from that education, when building your IM bussiness?
    I got a BS in Marketing from UT in 1990.It has helped me dramatically in Internet Marketing. In fact I do not know how in the World I could be as successful online as I am without my Marketing degree.

    I try to be patient with everyone here who has done better than me but I really have to to be honest and let you know I just bite my tongue because I am the one with the Marketing degree. And they are NOT !! I am the one who sat thru hours of Consumer Behavior Classes at Business School. I am the one who got a 3.8 GPA.

    I just cannot figure out how some of these other Warriors are making more money than me since they do not have a Marketing degree ??

    I really think there ought to be a mandated ceiling implemented towards people who do not have a Marketing degree and cap their Earnings in Internet Marketing at a specific level. And give everyone else who has a Marketing Degree a substantial increase in their Earnings.

    Uhmm..kind of sounds like Corporate America
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    • Profile picture of the author MNord
      Originally Posted by discrat View Post

      I try to be patient with everyone here who has done better than me but I really have to to be honest and let you know I just bite my tongue because I am the one with the Marketing degree. And they are NOT !! I am the one who sat thru hours of Consumer Behavior Classes at Business School. I am the one who got a 3.8 GPA.

      I just cannot figure out how some of these other Warriors are making more money than me since they do not have a Marketing degree ??
      This is one of the potential pitfalls of studying marketing at a university. University professors love case studies, theories, statistical analysis etc. But the real world doesn't always conform neatly to academic principles, established models, and statistics.

      Regardless, the classes are taught by "People Who Know." They are Professors, and they have Deep Understanding Of The Truth. And so, their students go out into the world with the what their professors taught them...and then can't figure out why they can't get ahead. And why others are so successful despite "not knowing" about marketing.

      I have no formal marketing degree. I know for a fact there are valuable things I would have learned if I'd studied marketing in college (particularly financial and statistical concepts). And yet I out-earn most marketing MBAs (by a long shot, if salary surveys are to be trusted). The difference, I think, is that I learned by actually doing direct marketing and sales, failing repeatedly (and often spectacularly), and learning through very painful experiences what tends to work and what doesn't.

      I think that getting a marketing degree is a great idea...if you want to work at a place that greatly values a marketing degree. YMMV.
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  • Profile picture of the author jamescanz
    Originally Posted by Edlund88 View Post

    I was just wondering if anyone on this forum actually have studied marketing? Or som bussiness class maybe?

    And have you had any help from that education, when building your IM bussiness?
    Glad you brought this up...

    I remember once I figured out personal training wasn't in the deck of cards for me anymore...

    I kicked myself for not taking any business or marketing classes in college

    The time went by, and I realized it was only for the better...

    Not only did I get to learn from scratch...

    But also learn specifically from those who were doing exactly what I wanted to accomplish

    And heck, I probably wouldn't have put too much focus into studying it in college
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  • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
    Originally Posted by Edlund88 View Post

    I was just wondering if anyone on this forum actually have studied marketing? Or som bussiness class maybe?

    And have you had any help from that education, when building your IM bussiness?
    I have a Bachelor's degree in Marketing and though I learned a lot about marketing principles, I can honestly say I learned way more about marketing by networking and partnering with other marketers and studying marketing from marketers who were already getting the results I wanted.

    I also learned a ton by simply doing it.

    I'm a big believer in education, so even though I've been at this for a long time, I still invest in courses, I still attend seminars. Why? Because I always learn something new.

    After doing this for over 14 years I can say that no one business person knows it all. It's impossible. I look at the all the courses I've invested in, all my notebooks full of notes, all of the businesses I've started and sold and I can tell you with a straight face that I still have a lot to learn.

    The great thing about starting a business online is that you don't need to know everything, you just need to know the right things (i.e. copy writing, increasing conversions, tracking, testing, publicity, promotion, pricing, distribution channels, advertising, etc.).

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    • Profile picture of the author redsjack
      i have an associates degree in general science and a bachelor in Business Administration plus an IAL specialization in international trade & trade laws and i have still much to learn. anyone that says a bachelor makes a world of difference is wrong, i think about 80% of what i learned is not from university but from real life and experienced people. The uni makes you a good employee not a good entrepreneur
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  • Profile picture of the author talfighel
    What you study at school will not be even close the the experience that you will get when you start your online business.

    The best course is to learn from setbacks and taking action.
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  • Profile picture of the author Edlund88
    Alright seems to be a bit of a mix here of people that have studied and people that haven't. I haven't studied anything about business at all, except here on warrior forum

    But i think i would not have had the focus to study it in school. It is better for me personally to do and test it out, instead of just reading about it in school.

    And there are soo much information here on warrior forum anyways..
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  • Profile picture of the author Brent Stangel
    My only formal training is in small business management.
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  • Profile picture of the author marketingdynasty
    I have studied a lot and read many books about business and marketing and gain lots of knowledge from these books and now I am implementing this knowledge to my business and getting good results.
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  • Profile picture of the author nicholasb
    you don't learn to run and market a business in a class room, you lean it by getting out their and doing it. Testing new things and taking advice from other marketers who have made millions of dollars

    Not from some dusty old fart getting 50k a year teaching nothing but theory
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    • Profile picture of the author CratesOfJoy
      Originally Posted by nicholasb View Post

      you don't learn to run and market a business in a class room, you lean it by getting out their and doing it. Testing new things and taking advice from other marketers who have made millions of dollars

      Not from some dusty old fart getting 50k a year teaching nothing but theory
      I love what you said there! This is very true. I am doing this for over 3 months and I can say I have little experience but more than a year 2 studen at a marketing college wing from my city!
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  • Profile picture of the author George Wright
    I started at a brick and mortar college in a program to get an (yes an not a ) MBA.

    After a year I couldn't stand it anymore. It had nothing to do with making money, except for the college that is. My first clue should have been when I overheard my first class instructor say privately (she thought) to the admissions rep. "I need some more warm bodies in here."

    However I'll say this, I worked for a Cemetery selling pre need property, a real estate company/broker and an Insurance company, selling Life and casualty and those companies classes in marketing and selling were very good and have helped me in Internet Marketing.

    To me, and I might get flamed for this, Marketing/Selling (I know, many say they are not the same, to me they are) boils down to just a few things. See more people, See more people and See more people.

    The last paragraph when relating to Internet Marketing translates to, Tons of buy now buttons out in cyberspace and a way to get them in front of the people.

    Of course you have to have something to sell. (Products and Services)

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    • Profile picture of the author kindsvater
      Originally Posted by George Wright View Post

      I worked for a Cemetery selling pre need property
      Being in SoCal odds are you worked for someone I have represented.


      Originally Posted by nicholasb

      you don't learn to run and market a business in a class room, you lean it by getting out their and doing it. Testing new things and taking advice from other marketers who have made millions of dollars

      Not from some dusty old fart getting 50k a year teaching nothing but theory
      Because that "theory" is just being pulled out of their butt? Or because it was been proven to work?

      There are well worn stats that almost all small businesses fail within a few years. For Internet Marketers without a physical store or product I'd eyeball the failure rate at 99.9%.

      IMHO, the #1 reason for failure is not having sufficient business and marketing skills.

      Too many people here think they can learn all they need for free from a forum - mostly filed with people like them lacking knowledge - or just "doing it" without any background and somehow that will translate into making lots of money.

      Are there exceptions? Sure. Even then, exceptions of "success" often involve small money.

      Many "heroes" of "IM making "tons of money" actually make such a pittance compared to their counterparts with real businesses it is embarrassing.

      If you were not a good student, do not have a business degree and could not survive creating a business without the Internet, what makes you think you will succeed online? This is why so many are chasing $100 from some Craigslist scheme or whatever. It is the bottom of the barrel but all they are qualified to do. Sorry to be a dream crusher but its factual reality.

      Why do you think so many WSOs and IM "ideas" involve chasing low hanging fruit? Example, target keywords with little competition with less than 30,000 searches per month, err 10,000 searches, err 1000 searches, err 100 searches etc. The unstated concept is you don't have the knowledge to compete against real businesses so you have to scrounge around looking for overlooked scraps.

      Check out the "what to do if you're desperate thread" and see how many of those "ideas" are actually workable and how many success stories you will read. It is pretty much zero and zero. And that is supposed to be a gold mine of information.




      I'd wager that dusty old fart teaching with a lesson plan done once and hardly needing any updating, with tenure, retirement savings, leaving work at 2 pm every day, months of vacation time each year, paid sabbaticals, and playing golf on the weekends, makes more money and has more free time than the vast majority of people currently on the forum.

      I wouldn't criticize that person.

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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Meaney
    Yes I've done business classes and it helped with doing basic accounts, how to get funding etc but not much else really.
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  • Profile picture of the author joaquin112
    People have many different opinions about this. Some will even point at Bill Gates and Steve Jobs who dropped out of college. The reality is that the more you study, the better prepared you are. I receive job offers every week because I have a degree in Web Design & Development, but i turn them all down because I'm studying a masters in Internet Marketing and I supplement my education by working 8+ hours per day on my web projects.

    My friends know about my qualifications and I naturally have opportunities that someone who doesn't hold a degree doesn't have. It makes you look professional, and that's very important.
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  • Profile picture of the author sivankindle
    Originally Posted by Edlund88 View Post

    I was just wondering if anyone on this forum actually have studied marketing? Or som bussiness class maybe?

    And have you had any help from that education, when building your IM bussiness?
    What's IM?
    I am new in here
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    • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
      Originally Posted by sivankindle View Post

      What's IM?
      I am new in here
      IM = Internet Marketing

      It's marketing using the the Internet as a medium. However, for some people in this forum they equate IM with the MMO market (Make Money Online), which isn't accurate. But nonetheless, it has that meaning for some people.

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    Had a bachelor's degree in computer science, then jumped over to complete my MBA. Fun times
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  • Profile picture of the author Dain
    They say to become an 'expert' all you need to do is read the top five books in your niche.

    'Expert' is pretty nebulous.

    Readers are leaders.

    Keep learning...
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  • Profile picture of the author parklands
    I've had business over the last 30 years, diversed into many different business, was involved in franchising, looking after 100 units across the country, learnt many things, hands on and made mistakes but learnt from them, now looking to make some money from the internet, I've made a little, but still looking for a constant income, not greedy but circumstances mean its the way I have to go, but I'll get there.
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  • Profile picture of the author SandraLarkin
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    Yes.

    You learn different types of things. It barely translates to the IM world, but it helps a bit. Not worth it at all if your only endeavor is in IM.
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    • Profile picture of the author serryjw
      SANDRA...I think getting a degree is very worth it EVEN if IM is in your future. You can learn good writing skills, basics in photography & videography...AND MOST DISCIPLINE.
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      • Profile picture of the author sivankindle
        Originally Posted by Dain View Post

        They say to become an 'expert' all you need to do is read the top five books in your niche.

        'Expert' is pretty nebulous.

        Readers are leaders.

        Keep learning...
        True

        Originally Posted by serryjw View Post

        SANDRA...I think getting a degree is very worth it EVEN if IM is in your future. You can learn good writing skills, basics in photography & videography...AND MOST DISCIPLINE.
        Do you think any degree will help you in IM? for example biochemistery and food sceience?
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        • Profile picture of the author serryjw
          Sounds like you're are not sure of your career direction? Maybe one of the sciences? Get your degree in what you think will make you happy. You can always add IM classes in the future as an elective. IM technology is moving so fast that you can pick up programs on WF in the future.
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          • Profile picture of the author sivankindle
            Originally Posted by serryjw View Post

            Sounds like you're are not sure of your career direction? Maybe one of the sciences? Get your degree in what you think will make you happy. You can always add IM classes in the future as an elective. IM technology is moving so fast that you can pick up programs on WF in the future.
            What did you learn?
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  • Profile picture of the author Christian Swift
    I have never actually studied marketing or business. I have been on one course to do with Internet Marketing, and the rest is self-learnt through trial and error.

    I find that in any business, there are those who do all the learning to learn how to do something, and those who find it out themselves the hard way. I am the latter lol!

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  • Profile picture of the author MeganRichardson
    According to my point of view, the marketing is the best way to interact with the customers and their needs. It is the process which maintains the relationship between market and customers. It completely depends on four factors, which are known as 4Ps.By using these points a customer may easily attract to the marketing system.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    I've taken an e-commerce class. We had to build a website for a local small business owner of our choice. Didn't learn much about marketing.... a little about seo... but mostly just web design.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ean Stark
    I've read several books and taken several courses that cost upwards $1k ,and from my experience, my knowledge has paid off - big time.

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    • Profile picture of the author sivankindle
      Originally Posted by Ean Stark View Post

      I've read several books and taken several courses that cost upwards $1k ,and from my experience, my knowledge has paid off - big time.

      Ean
      Which books did you read?
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  • Profile picture of the author desmoines
    Originally Posted by Edlund88 View Post

    I was just wondering if anyone on this forum actually have studied marketing? Or som bussiness class maybe?

    And have you had any help from that education, when building your IM bussiness?

    my sister-in-law has a PhD in marketing, and she loves it
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  • Profile picture of the author Syed Raza
    YES ! you can do online marketing without any special training

    but still there are a lot of sides in this IM World That would take you behind the person who learned IM world ! And i think you dont want to be at behind :/ And YES ! you should NOT Because having infront is always better

    best of luck ! and pelase learn about this IM world This is really a life changing field !
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  • Profile picture of the author MarketMaster13
    I'm planning to take it a course soon and that does include a section about promoting an IM business.
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  • Profile picture of the author JamesW3
    If you are not auto-didactic, have a mentor, and good connections....just go to school. Without those three, and not going to school, your success rate is small. And when you get to school make sure you pick up a mentor or two and network as much as possible.

    I have a degree in Business.

    Good luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author JamesW3
    Oh and the best course you will probably take there doesn't have to do with marketing...but accounting/law. It will teach you how to setup and manage your business/write contracts.
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  • Profile picture of the author wesleywinter
    The only training I have in IM is what I have learned from taking action online. I am currently getting my associates in business also.
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  • Profile picture of the author wajahath
    Yes, I took Business administration and Marketing, degree teaches us the basic stuff and makes us sophisticated but the I learnt more from trial & errors and by reading books. Books such as Think and grow rick, rich dad poor dad, fooled by randomness, outliers, you can win , how to influence people and make friends and predictably irrational... these are some of my favorite books. I also learnt that attitude is way more important than other things in life. It helps to bounce back when you up against the tides.
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