I don't know my end goal for my website?!!

10 years ago

I'm not sure what you really mean when you say "end goal for my website"?

A good website tends to be a work in progress, with new information being added to attract return visitors etc., So from that perspective, it doesn't really end. Unless you intend to sell the site at some point, and that is called an "exit plan"

If you are referring to ways of monetising the site, then the choice is down to you and what you would prefer. You could create a product to sell, or maybe sell someone else's product.

You could raise revenue through advertising. Or maybe create a membership area. There is no right or wrong way to monetise, although some methods may be more successesful than others.

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DieselFit

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Myles Sinclair

I'm not sure what you really mean when you say "end goal for my website"?

A good website tends to be a work in progress, with new information being added to attract return visitors etc., So from that perspective, it doesn't really end. Unless you sell the site at some point, and that is called an "exit plan"

If you are refering to ways of monetising the site, then the choice is down to you and what you would prefer. You could create a product to sell, or maybe sell someone else's product.

You could raise revenue through advertising. Or maybe create a membership area. There is no right or wrong way to monetise, although some methods may be more successesful than others.

Selling someone else's product...aren't I suppose to know the product and try it out before selling it? I never understood that about click bank, how people can review these products and sell it as if it was a product they have tried?

End goal meaning like a call to action. like something I want them to do when they are on my website or page. I was asked what my end goal was on one of my previous threads for my website.

Thanks for your quick reply though, it was helpful.

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Myles Sinclair

10 years ago

Originally Posted by DieselFit

Selling someone else's product...aren't I suppose to know the product and try it out before selling it? I never understood that about click bank, how people can review these products and sell it as if it was a product they have tried?

Yes, it is good if you can get a copy of what you are selling if it is someone else's product. It depends on what it is though. If there are already lots of good impartial reviews out there by actual customers, then it's probably a safe bet that the product is pretty good.

End goal meaning like a call to action. like something I want them to do when they are on my website or page. I was asked what my end goal was on one of my previous threads for my website.

Thanks for your quick reply though, it was helpful.

OK. "end goal" is not a term I would use. Purpose might be a better word, which I think you've already defined -

I started my website thinking I could motivate and provide people with simple to understand fitness exercises and programs.

I assume the above statement is still valid. It sounds like you are now at a point where you would like to earn money from the site. It's just a matter of deciding what method you want to explore.

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Rhadoo7

10 years ago

From my own experience (also in the Fitness niche) I think that it's better to focus on a very specific topic, and to have a clear vision of your targeted audience.

Instead of focusing on all Fitness related topics and to have all kinds of people on your website, I think it's better to have just a specific type of people...for example: skinny guys looking to gain muscle, or skinny girls looking to get that "bikini fitness model" look, or moms looking to get back in shape, old people that want to gain muscle etc.

Then you will be able to pick products that are designed just for that group of people, and you will easily make sales...

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DieselFit

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Rhadoo7

From my own experience (also in the Fitness niche) I think that it's better to focus on a very specific topic, and to have a clear vision of your targeted audience.

Instead of focusing on all Fitness related topics and to have all kinds of people on your website, I think it's better to have just a specific type of people...for example: skinny guys looking to gain muscle, or skinny girls looking to get that "bikini fitness model" look, or moms looking to get back in shape, old people that want to gain muscle etc.

Then you will be able to pick products that are designed just for that group of people, and you will easily make sales...

For example, office employees who need motivation to keep exercising? I can also target mothers/beginners/people in general who need motivation or reasons to keep exercising?

I used to be very skinnya nd i have a article on how i went from 120 pounds to 190. I can target the skinny niche and also I can target multiple audiences right?

Thanks for your response, it helped a lot!!

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DieselFit

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Myles Sinclair

Yes, it is good if you can get a copy of what you are selling if it is someone else's product. It depends on what it is though. If there are already lots of good impartial reviews out there by actual customers, then it's probably a safe bet that the product is pretty good.

OK. "end goal" is not a term I would use. Purpose might be a better word, which I think you've already defined -

I assume the above statement is still valid. It sounds like you are now at a point where you would like to earn money from the site. It's just a matter of deciding what method you want to explore.

Wow thanks for the answers Myles! I would like to earn money but it doens't feel like I have retained the audiences who are visiting my site. I am probably not producing enough content on a regular basis. I posted my latest one a few days ago, and before that it's been around a month or two.

I should probably focus on my purpose as you said, and keep producing based on that.

Thanks, it has helped me find my starting point again!

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Myles Sinclair

10 years ago

Originally Posted by DieselFit

"......I would like to earn money but it doesn't feel like I have retained the audiences who are visiting my site. I am probably not producing enough content on a regular basis....."

You're welcome. Glad to be of help.

I had a quick look at your site. It looks like visitors can create an account, but there is no explanation as to what that will do for them. At some point you might want to look at that.

A good way to keep in touch with visitors and get them coming back is to invite them to join your mailing list. Maybe offer them a free report in exchange for their email address. Then you will be able to notify them when new posts and articles appear on the site, Plus you'll be able to send special offers from time to time, and make some sales.

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oWEN tEBB

10 years ago

I understand what I mean. Short term goals should be getting traffic to your site and have great content. HIf your doing that, how much success have you had? Long term goals would be to have multiple website all linked together with the niche you are targeting.

There plenty ways to make it work. Got a link to the website so i can look around and give better advice

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DieselFit

10 years ago

Originally Posted by oWEN tEBB

I understand what I mean. Short term goals should be getting traffic to your site and have great content. HIf your doing that, how much success have you had? Long term goals would be to have multiple website all linked together with the niche you are targeting.

There plenty ways to make it work. Got a link to the website so i can look around and give better advice

I've been getting anywhere from 3 sessions to 11 sessions per day. My website is linked ona blogging site where I have a massive authority on. So most of my visitors are from there. Mulitple websites? So I can't have this one website for fitness over all, then having mulitple niches on it on different pages?

My site is in my signature, but if you cant see it, here it is, Home - FitFrek - Upgrade Your Health and Fitness

Thank you so much for your answer!!

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McKattry

10 years ago

Originally Posted by DieselFit

I've been getting anywhere from 3 sessions to 11 sessions per day. My website is linked ona blogging site where I have a massive authority on. So most of my visitors are from there. Mulitple websites? So I can't have this one website for fitness over all, then having mulitple niches on it on different pages?

My site is in my signature, but if you cant see it, here it is, Home - FitFrek - Upgrade Your Health and Fitness

Thank you so much for your answer!!

If you want your site to start ranking, you need to focus. If you want multiple subjects, unless you don't care about SEO, it's probably best to have multiple sites. It's OK to have different subjects on the same blog so long as they're related like, shampoo, and hairbrushes, for instance. Get much broader though, and your SEO task becomes much more difficult, not to mention your readers might be put off by too broad an array of subjects.

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savidge4 10 years ago

Ok folks... I get the concept of niching down. But you have to understand that you don't have to ALWAYS do that. As a point I will tell you across my 20+ web properties with kinda the exception of 1 I NEVER niche down. I do the opposite, I shoot into categories. As examples I have a soccer website. By no means a niche, because I could focus my site content into at least 5 niches. I have a Halloween website. Again I could focus this down to separate sites. I have a 4k Ultra High Def site, again I could focus this down. The ONLY semi niched site I have is 4k Ultra High Def TV's. However, even that site touches on FAR more than just TV's!

Probably the BIG difference between what you all that are niched are doing and what the OP should be doing is this... YOU have a specific product. The OP on the other hand can get his hands in to many niches and maintain his relevance to his audience. Truth be told over the long hall the OP could be far more successful than if he was niched down.

I saw 6 pack abs mentioned.. sure that is a niche market - absolutely. Look at the guys page again. look at the photos does he have 6 pack abs? Well yes he does. he has defined legs to.. should he start another site for that? He doesn't have much of a neck because he has developed those muscles should he build another site? He probably eats right should he build another site for that? do I need to keep going here?

This guy has the potential to sell what MOST of you can not. THE WHOLE DEAL. This guy is a marketers dream #1 he has a story, #2 its a known fact that deep down he has the motivation and drive to stick with it. #3 he has the potential to not get 1 product to market but DOZENS! #4 In terms of product, he can sell those DOZENS of products not to separate lists, but to the exact same list OVER and OVER and OVER.

This guy is a walking Brand and has no clue.

To those of you that are niched in.... think of this for a second. Imagine having a site up at the Category level. then as you have right now 4 or 5 Niche specific sites. All of those sites could feed up to the Category site. So you are in essence moving 4 or 5 products at a time. The truth is within that Category all 4 or 5 niches can be cross sold to.

Running 4, 5, or 6 sites with similar content can be a pain in the apple pie. So image having the same reach across 4 or 5 niches from a central site. It can be done! it takes a bit of work up front but like I said the back end pay off can be huge! Need examples? CNN, ESPN, any newspaper, Walmart, the Gap.. pick one, they all are targeting multiple niches and are very successful!

Hope that Helps!
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wordpressmania

10 years ago

How old is your website? How many article are there? Are this article human readable and genunine? If you have many gnunune article you have non thing to loose. Keep working and eventually you will be able to make some money. But I don't think there something like end goal for a website. Surely you can adopt your website when you think it will make more revenue. But now the first priority is adding content.

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DieselFit

10 years ago

Originally Posted by wordpressmania

How old is your website? How many article are there? Are this article human readable and genunine? If you have many gnunune article you have non thing to loose. Keep working and eventually you will be able to make some money. But I don't think there something like end goal for a website. Surely you can adopt your website when you think it will make more revenue. But now the first priority is adding content.

Thank you for your response. I appreciate it, and yes it's human readable, I've written them myself. There must be at least 10 articles now. I didn't count them but ya they are geniune although I did make sure the reader dind't have to go to multiple soruces for info. Like for pull ups (Exercise) i would explain it from top to bottom, how you can get started and how you can progress.

So now I should just keep a reason for readers to keep coming back for more info, just like a regular blogger would on a blogging platform? Kind of like a newpaper that generates news everyday ?

It's actually around 6 months old. I have some traffic from organic searchs on google but are not enough to even brag about. So it's a good tihng that my site is ranking on google, just not for highly demanded keywords.

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onpointinfo

10 years ago

You are in a HOT Evergreen Niche FITNESS

1) You are too broad, narrow it down. to specific area like biceps, six packs, etccc

2) Write down a list of sub topics within the fitness niche

3) Research the demand for each of those niches offline go to barnes nobles magazine rack

4) Research the demand for each of those niches online use a FREE SEO KEYWORD RESEARCH TOOL to help you do the research on each of those sub niches and gauge the demand online for each of those niches, if you do not know how to do SEO, SEO Keyword Research, read some ebooks on seo, join a forum, pay a seo coach, join a seo paid training online program, ask someone that teaches seo if you can work as an intern for him/her to learn the basics of SEO hands on as opposed to reading, google free seo training

5) Then go to clickbank and see what products are selling in those niches and how well they are doing

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DieselFit

10 years ago

Originally Posted by onpointinfo

You are in a HOT Evergreen Niche FITNESS

1) You are too broad, narrow it down. to specific area like biceps, six packs, etccc

2) Write down a list of sub topics within the fitness niche

3) Research the demand for each of those niches offline go to barnes nobles magazine rack

4) Research the demand for each of those niches online use a FREE SEO KEYWORD RESEARCH TOOL to help you do the research on each of those sub niches and gauge the demand online for each of those niches, if you do not know how to do SEO, SEO Keyword Research, read some ebooks on seo, join a forum, pay a seo coach, join a seo paid training online program, ask someone that teaches seo if you can work as an intern for him/her to learn the basics of SEO hands on as opposed to reading, google free seo training

5) Then go to clickbank and see what products are selling in those niches and how well they are doing

Ah I see! I do know I am in a hot territory that is never ending, which is something I'm confused and frustrated about too. I read your steps, so for example if I picked the niche of "mindsets" you know, mastering the inner self for the best results in exercise, wouldn't I have to check the competition for this topic? because I do see there's a lot, for example the mind to muscle topic is all over google, i believe around 25 billion results. I assume this would be too competitive and I would have to do something different/unique right?

Thanks for your help Onpointinfo

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savidge4

10 years ago

Reading some of your answers to the questions asked of you. Your site is 6 months old.. you have 10 articles written? You "Should" be pumping out 2 to 3 articles a week.

Your primary source of traffic ( 3 to 11 users a day ) comes from a Forum you are an authority on... How did you become an authority there? what are you sharing there that you are not on your blog?

You have to realize you have by default set yourself in a very good place ( I am not so sure you understand that ) go and look at your homepage right now. What do you see? 2 images and the message "Skinny to Muscular... here is my story!" OK now click on your that image to YOUR story. You wrote the story you know what it says... look at the second comment at the bottom from "MuslimahTresses" That is YOUR direction! That is your motivation.

So how did you get from Skinny to muscular? what were the steps? what were the exersice's? did you take supplements?

The story is great... now start writing about the process. what did you do the first week? what was your routine on a DAILY basis?

Just writing what your routines are now, for the week broken down day by day is 7 articles in itself.

How do you make money from this? Again if you took vitamins or supplements find an affiliate program that sells those items so you can.

Have you thought about doing short videos that you can show proper technique for each exersice?

Your traffic comes down to you getting more content on your site. The more detailed you are with the process the more likely people are going to share your site with others! Think less about motivating ( Because YOU did it, is probably motivation enough ) and more about the process from Skinny to Muscular - SHARE THAT!

You still want to motivate, but write articles to the effect of dealing with the days you think you don't have time ( offer a short routine ) or you just don't feel like it etc.

You simply just need to write more, you are on the right path!

Hope that Helps!

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DieselFit

10 years ago

Originally Posted by savidge4

Reading some of your answers to the questions asked of you. Your site is 6 months old.. you have 10 articles written? You "Should" be pumping out 2 to 3 articles a week.

Your primary source of traffic ( 3 to 11 users a day ) comes from a Forum you are an authority on... How did you become an authority there? what are you sharing there that you are not on your blog?

You have to realize you have by default set yourself in a very good place ( I am not so sure you understand that ) go and look at your homepage right now. What do you see? 2 images and the message "Skinny to Muscular... here is my story!" OK now click on your that image to YOUR story. You wrote the story you know what it says... look at the second comment at the bottom from "MuslimahTresses" That is YOUR direction! That is your motivation.

So how did you get from Skinny to muscular? what were the steps? what were the exersice's? did you take supplements?

The story is great... now start writing about the process. what did you do the first week? what was your routine on a DAILY basis?

Just writing what your routines are now, for the week broken down day by day is 7 articles in itself.

How do you make money from this? Again if you took vitamins or supplements find an affiliate program that sells those items so you can.

Have you thought about doing short videos that you can show proper technique for each exersice?

Your traffic comes down to you getting more content on your site. The more detailed you are with the process the more likely people are going to share your site with others! Think less about motivating ( Because YOU did it, is probably motivation enough ) and more about the process from Skinny to Muscular - SHARE THAT!

You still want to motivate, but write articles to the effect of dealing with the days you think you don't have time ( offer a short routine ) or you just don't feel like it etc.

You simply just need to write more, you are on the right path!

Hope that Helps!

Right! That is the big picture i have missed, you're right about that. I've read everything you said top to bottom. My story on skinny to muscular...I realize that I probably won't be increasing my traffic through organic searches since this is a very broad niche as I would think. I think there are about 17 million results just on the keywords skinny to muscular.

Or am I just focusing here on great content that will generate word of mouth and backlinking?

I've basically got to create a mindmap starting from my story" skinny to muscular" and from there I can generate topics of my process and eventually develop hundreds of articles of my journey. Like what I did wrong or right, what I had to eat, what mindset I had, why I started, and each of these can probably link to each other (interlinking).

Videos...I've done videos on exercises in general and it did not do so well. I only did well when I basically jsut flexed my muscles in front of the camera. that generated hundreds sometimes up to 6 thousand views on youtube.

Oh and it's actually a blog that I have authority on. I share everything but people love my health stuff which really gets them going and I get a few people hooked by coming back ot me with a report on their progress sometimes. I've basically produced 1800 articles on random topics for the past 10 months. While my site relaly got no attention...but You're right, I should be sharing the same topics on my site...

You have no idea how much I appreciated your long thought out response. Thank you for helping me and thanks for checking out my website.

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savidge4

10 years ago

Here is a little trick for you. 3 times a day for the rest of your life go and find blogs that are related to your topic. post "REPLIES" on each site again 3 times a day. you don't even have to place your site address in the response. MOST sites require a email and name, and have a space available for a URL. By placing your URL you are basically creating a backlink. that turns into over 1000 backlinks a year, at the expense of maybe 10 minutes a day!

The more you write, the more "Organic" traffic you will get. It wont specifically be "Skinny to Muscle" that pulls them in. but the diversity and quality of the topics you will cover will bring in your target audience. Just write and watch. It may take sometime, but it will happen!

So you have videos already? If they are still up, place the link on the video description to your site. and then write a article for each one ( same topic ) and post the video on your site ( linked from youtube ) - Try and do this once every other day, until you have all of your videos cross linked ( btw this is also another form of back linking )

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DieselFit

10 years ago

Originally Posted by savidge4

Here is a little trick for you. 3 times a day for the rest of your life go and find blogs that are related to your topic. post "REPLIES" on each site again 3 times a day. you don't even have to place your site address in the response. MOST sites require a email and name, and have a space available for a URL. By placing your URL you are basically creating a backlink. that turns into over 1000 backlinks a year, at the expense of maybe 10 minutes a day!

The more you write, the more "Organic" traffic you will get. It wont specifically be "Skinny to Muscle" that pulls them in. but the diversity and quality of the topics you will cover will bring in your target audience. Just write and watch. It may take sometime, but it will happen!

So you have videos already? If they are still up, place the link on the video description to your site. and then write a article for each one ( same topic ) and post the video on your site ( linked from youtube ) - Try and do this once every other day, until you have all of your videos cross linked ( btw this is also another form of back linking )

Wow I thought about the whole backlinking thing but never thought that interacting with other blogs would count as a SEO technique! I've found lists of what blogs must do "answer questions on yahoo answers, post blogs on delciious, find other blogs in my niche and post useful comments" stuff like that.

So you're saying if I work on my story and write articles about skinny to muscular, it will be the quality and details that brings in the audiences? Okay so it won't be speifically skinny to muscle that will rank, but rather the processes that might rank. I see!

My market segment should be focused on those who are skinny or want to gain muscle in general if I am right.

Again thanks for your help. I get more excited as I know what my purpose is for my site!

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savidge4

10 years ago

Dieselfit,

I believe I think a bit different in some ways than most here. They tell you to stay dead on topic, write about your niche!!!!

The reality is, you are in the health niche. YOUR story specifically is how you went from Skinny to Muscular. but again, you have something most people in the health niche don't have, and that's the STORY... and the EXPIRIENCE. You are competing with a bunch of people that are selling product that is not theirs because that is where the money is at.

The content you will write, as compared to what they write will be night and day. When you are writing about the foods you ate you are not going to be writing "The 10 best foods to eat to bulk up" you could do a post on a single day food planner like when you first started out. write another one on what you eat now. Just writing a single days worth, to give them an example is helping them out. When you start to develop traffic, you can then think in terms of creating a PDF of a weeks worth of meals, and sell that plan for $5.00 all day long and feel proud about it!

Success is many little things done well. The transformation that you made of yourself didn't come in one day, it didn't come from one exercise. It came from dedication and perseverance. This is no different. Success is not coming tomorrow, but you push forward, success is not going to be there next week but you push forward. Success WILL come, because you push. Because you write every day, because you share YOUR truth!

Hope that Helps!

Originally Posted by DieselFit

Wow I thought about the whole backlinking thing but never thought that interacting with other blogs would count as a SEO technique! I've found lists of what blogs must do "answer questions on yahoo answers, post blogs on delciious, find other blogs in my niche and post useful comments" stuff like that.

So you're saying if I work on my story and write articles about skinny to muscular, it will be the quality and details that brings in the audiences? Okay so it won't be speifically skinny to muscle that will rank, but rather the processes that might rank. I see!

My market segment should be focused on those who are skinny or want to gain muscle in general if I am right.

Again thanks for your help. I get more excited as I know what my purpose is for my site!

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DieselFit

10 years ago

Originally Posted by savidge4

Dieselfit,

I believe I think a bit different in some ways than most here. They tell you to stay dead on topic, write about your niche!!!!

The reality is, you are in the health niche. YOUR story specifically is how you went from Skinny to Muscular. but again, you have something most people in the health niche don't have, and that's the STORY... and the EXPIRIENCE. You are competing with a bunch of people that are selling product that is not theirs because that is where the money is at.

The content you will write, as compared to what they write will be night and day. When you are writing about the foods you ate you are not going to be writing "The 10 best foods to eat to bulk up" you could do a post on a single day food planner like when you first started out. write another one on what you eat now. Just writing a single days worth, to give them an example is helping them out. When you start to develop traffic, you can then think in terms of creating a PDF of a weeks worth of meals, and sell that plan for $5.00 all day long and feel proud about it!

Success is many little things done well. The transformation that you made of yourself didn't come in one day, it didn't come from one exercise. It came from dedication and perseverance. This is no different. Success is not coming tomorrow, but you push forward, success is not going to be there next week but you push forward. Success WILL come, because you push. Because you write every day, because you share YOUR truth!

Hope that Helps!

Wow. I must have read this at least 5 times now. My question is, don't I have to worry about my niche being too broad? "Skinny to muscular" aims at men ranging from 18 to 28 years old as I'm told. I mean I could write absolutely amazing blogs on a great website but if there's no target audience, then there's really nothing, isn't that true?? Don't I need to really narrow it down? !

Thanks again!!

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mrozlat

10 years ago

Originally Posted by DieselFit

Hey guys!

The end goal of my website is undoubtedly unknown. I started my website thinking I could motivate and provide people with simple to understand fitness exercises and programs.

I did Google my concern and found that my options are "sales, donation, or subscription". Those are apparently my choices for my end goal.

I do have content and that has been my priority since I started my site. But now I am truly lost and don't know where to begin again because I'm basically spinning in the world wide web of information about SEO and all that.

I'm new at this, perhaps someone out here can help me get back on the right track.

What are my options for my end goal?

What steps am I suppose to take to ensure that I am in the "right" niche? (can I pick motivation for fitness or should I pick something more broad?)

Is a website suppose to pick only one niche or can different pages have different niches?

Thank you and seriously, thanks for your time. I know I do ask too much but I'm lost as a penguin in a forest!

there's no right or wrong answer... you should really be asking yourself these questions

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DURABLEOILCOM

10 years ago

Your Niche is Fitness.

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DieselFit 10 years ago

Originally Posted by DURABLEOILCOM

Your Niche is Fitness.

Fitness is a fairly large niche. I'm fairly certain I can't target all of fitness, including cycling, runners, swimmers, weight trainers, strength lifters, etc.

Thanks for your help though
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jbprich

10 years ago

To answer your 2 different questions

1. Are you planning on having a membership site or are you just selling a product like a video course or an ebook. I would suggest you forget the donation issue. Donations are for people who feel that there product is not worth selling straight up. It should not even be in your mind. Donations are weak and not reliable or scalable so forget donations. This now brings it down to weather it is going to be a membership site i.e or the sale of a product.

A membership site requires a lot of updates and are you prepared to do that?
If you just want to sell a product then you do not need to update it as much. you will only need to update the look of the site not the product you are selling.

2. To answer your second question make your niche a bit narrower not broad.
Never put different niches on the same website. If you can specialize in a particular way you will do better.

Make sure you do research to see if people are willing to buy for that narrower niche. If people are buying from the narrower niche then you are onto a winner.

If you have the skills to create an exercise information product then turn it into a sales product not a membership site. Check to see if there are membership sites for your niche if their are then join to see how it works. If not then maybe there is not a call for it.

To summarize maybe you should make your information product simple and just sell it as is. And always keep your niche narrow and Never mix niches together it only confuses things, and you will not make any money.
Use the sales button not the subscription. Subscription is designed for membership sites.
I will finish with this do your research to see if people want what you offer and sell that.

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DieselFit

10 years ago

Originally Posted by jbprich

To answer your 2 different questions

1. Are you planning on having a membership site or are you just selling a product like a video course or an ebook. I would suggest you forget the donation issue. Donations are for people who feel that there product is not worth selling straight up. It should not even be in your mind. Donations are weak and not reliable or scalable so forget donations. This now brings it down to weather it is going to be a membership site i.e or the sale of a product.

A membership site requires a lot of updates and are you prepared to do that?
If you just want to sell a product then you do not need to update it as much. you will only need to update the look of the site not the product you are selling.

2. To answer your second question make your niche a bit narrower not broad.
Never put different niches on the same website. If you can specialize in a particular way you will do better.

Make sure you do research to see if people are willing to buy for that narrower niche. If people are buying from the narrower niche then you are onto a winner.

If you have the skills to create an exercise information product then turn it into a sales product not a membership site. Check to see if there are membership sites for your niche if their are then join to see how it works. If not then maybe there is not a call for it.

To summarize maybe you should make your information product simple and just sell it as is. And always keep your niche narrow and Never mix niches together it only confuses things, and you will not make any money.
Use the sales button not the subscription. Subscription is designed for membership sites.
I will finish with this do your research to see if people want what you offer and sell that.

About having multiple niches...what would separate a niche from a subniche? For example, one website like bodybuilding.com is a fitness niche, but talks about all kinds of things in fitness.

If I picked something like the niche for gaining muscle for skinny folks, then I would be able to go from anywhere in supplements, to nutrition, to exercises and techniques. Would gaining muscle for skinny folks be the niche and the rest of the topics just fall under this niche as topics?

As for selling... ya it would probably be products and ebooks. Like I could do affilate marketing and also ebooks possibly in the future.

Thanks for your suggestions and help!

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ecoverartist

10 years ago

"Fitness" is not a niche. "Six pack abs for men" is a niche. So if you have a general fitness site, you'll be getting general traffic. If, however, you have a specific style of fitness (which it sounds like you do), then hanging out on bodybuilding sites isn't really going to get you the audience you're looking for.

It sounds like your target audience are people who are just starting out...they may be struggling with their weight and have had success off and on the diet train. There are ALL KINDS of forums around this topic... 3fatchicks is one I can think of off the top of my head. Posting there probably won't get you backlinks (most forums are no-follow) but it will help you build relationships with your audience and help you build credibility in your topic area.

Good luck!

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DieselFit

10 years ago

Originally Posted by ecoverartist

"Fitness" is not a niche. "Six pack abs for men" is a niche. So if you have a general fitness site, you'll be getting general traffic. If, however, you have a specific style of fitness (which it sounds like you do), then hanging out on bodybuilding sites isn't really going to get you the audience you're looking for.

It sounds like your target audience are people who are just starting out...they may be struggling with their weight and have had success off and on the diet train. There are ALL KINDS of forums around this topic... 3fatchicks is one I can think of off the top of my head. Posting there probably won't get you backlinks (most forums are no-follow) but it will help you build relationships with your audience and help you build credibility in your topic area.

Good luck!

This was quite helpful! I understand fitness is not a niche, it's very broad. Has lots of niches and tons of topics. I love helping people who are just starting out, that's my passion cause I was once there. But I was told that "skinny to muscular" is too broad of a niche. That there's too many people cause this niche targets men who are 18 (or younger) to 28 years old. That's a big market I believe. Should I be worried and narrow down?? I've been very fustarted with this very thing of picking a niche! Thanks a lot

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savidge4 10 years ago

I think I would worry less about "Picking a niche" and let your niche pick you. just write about your story. The products that you may develop are going to naturally come from the products you have used, and the systems you are using.

Probably the world over what 16+ year old guy is not wanting to build mass or at least look better? You have an audience, there is no question about that. You have a following in someone elses blog. so the question is why not your own?

You have to remember that you are a living example that your process works. and that it can work for others. again that is the process you need to share from start to finish, 1 post at a time!
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ErinWalsh

10 years ago

Write down the main topic of your site, which I'm assuming is Health? (I wasn't sure because I didn't know if your sig link was your site nor not?)

Then, under the topics of health you have women's or men's health, which can be further divided into sexual health, and that could be further dividing into natural versus prescription drugs. However, this is just an example.

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ErinWalsh

10 years ago

Write down the main topic of your site, which I'm assuming is Health? (I wasn't sure because I didn't know if your sig link was your site nor not?)

Then, under the topics of health you have women's or men's health, which can be further divided into sexual health, and that could be further dividing into natural versus prescription drugs. However, this is just an example.

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