by Mrnace
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How do you pick which one?

should cost be an issue, obviously, going for cheapness usually means the person isn't as good as you'd want. but on the other end you don't want to over pay.

I have literally posted a job for a software developer about 5mins ago.

What do you look out for?
#advice #outsourcing
  • Profile picture of the author blueclcl
    I would look for good ( Real ) reviews/ testimonials, and also try to speak to them on skype to answer my questions.

    I would also be careful with cheap offers that seem to good to be true.
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  • Profile picture of the author JamesW3
    Treat it like you were about to hire an employee. Ask for their resume, read reviews/case studies/testimonials, hold an interview etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mrnace
    yeah, I'll go through reviews and check their previous work, thats standard.

    Is there anything else?
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    • Profile picture of the author CynthiaC
      Don't pile on the work right away. Do "test" projects with more than one candidate.

      I like to hire at least 10 for the same job at a time. The 80-20 rule dictates 2 will be ok, 1 will be great!

      Getting a bunch to work on small tasks at once will save you many headaches in the long run.

      Also when you put up your "help wanted" post, include an instruction somewhere in the middle of an activity they need to do in their response to you. This makes sure they read the post.

      Something like "when you reply to this ad, put Mike Rules in the subject line."

      That way you only open the ones that put "Mike Rules"

      Be patient with your training, there are some brilliant people out there that only need to be trained properly.

      Respect their religious holidays and be sure to bonus good work.
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  • Profile picture of the author hostdare
    I am looking the rating of that person in particular site,its reviews
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  • Profile picture of the author magiclouie
    Giving them trial tasks and hiring them on probation is ideal. It can be irksome, but when you do find a gem it's all worth it.

    Talking to them personally on skype or any VOIP tool is the way to go as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brent Stangel
    Do "test" projects with more than one candidate.
    This is great advice. Even if you find a good one, don't stop looking. In my experience, the talented people who start out on Fiverr and the like don't stay there long.

    Good VAs are like the wind - they come and go quickly.
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    • Profile picture of the author unclederek
      Here are two proven methods that have worked for me....

      1. Tell a candidate that you want to screen share with them and see projects they are working on, and have them give you a quick tour of their drawing board...

      i.e. software developers - look to see their IDE and debugger in action
      i.e. graphic designers - look to see their PSD file open with the layers
      etc...

      This way you immediately eliminate the 'middle men' & 'project managers' that are getting in the way of you working with the source.


      2. Explain to your candidate that you are interviewing many prospects for the position... And you are currently seeing who can put together_____(what ever you are looking to get done) in under 24 hours... The best candidates will be chosen for a long-term contract with your firm...

      This will eliminate all the pikers and hacks that will waste your time. Someone who is an A player probably already has 10 examples of what you need and they'll fire it over within minutes- and thats the person you want!!!


      PS... Tons of positive reviews are not necessarily as ironclad as you might think... I would not just base your decision off this... You have tons of these 'middle men' who are working the system finding the herds of gullible business professionals buying into the hype-machine...

      Actions have and always will speak louder than words.

      Good Luck,

      Derek
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      • Profile picture of the author LearningChinese
        Originally Posted by unclederek View Post

        Here are two proven methods that have worked for me....

        1. Tell a candidate that you want to screen share with them and see projects they are working on, and have them give you a quick tour of their drawing board...

        i.e. software developers - look to see their IDE and debugger in action
        i.e. graphic designers - look to see their PSD file open with the layers
        etc...

        This way you immediately eliminate the 'middle men' & 'project managers' that are getting in the way of you working with the source.

        k
        This is a brilliant piece of advice something that I should've thought of but I didn't. Thank you for it! Nothing can mess something up quite like re-outsourcing can.
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  • Profile picture of the author tristatemedia
    the only way you will control you employees is through feedback. no one wants a bad feedback.. never hire anyone driectly with a freelance site acting as a middle man.
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  • Profile picture of the author dvduval
    some of the more talented people are also sizing you up. They may not mind working for a reasonable rate but they may be looking for someone that will provide them very clear and organized instructions. That way they are assured they can complete the project and get paid.if it looks like you put only a few minutes of thought into your project this might be a red flag to some of the better developers so make sure you take the time to write I clear plan with the little details that are needed or else she may find you don't get bids from some of the more talented developers.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mrnace
    Awesome, some great advice.

    the test projects thing seems interesting, and so does having detailed instructions.

    When it comes to having the details, even the smallest, if you have very little knowledge of the work you are outsourcing, the extra bit of detail can be difficult.
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  • Profile picture of the author OpenAccessBPO
    Picking the right candidate from outsourcing might be crucial. Make sure you interview the candidate personally and ask for their portfolio. After you checked their portfolio it is helpful to put them in 1-2 weeks of trial so you can be sure that can they provide you quality works.
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  • Profile picture of the author tristatemedia
    go with 100% or close to it feedback....they might be more expensive but you can control them because they do not want to lose the feedback.
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    also remember that cost is negiotable, if they ask for 10 per hour, send them message and tell them you will hire them if they lowered their rates. they always do.
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  • Profile picture of the author PLR Basket
    Get them on Skype. See if the two of you vibe together.
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