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So, I've done a lot of research and for promoting clickbank products the process I'm seeing that works is:
Find a good quality product
build a review site
write articles
find niche-related forums
build seo/keyword-rich content & publish it on my site & on ezines
Yahoo answers answering
traffic: using impression keyword-rich ads to get traffic

the question is... lots of people make it out to be so simple to do all this stuff but it does take time. I mean, my question really boils down to:
how can you make a full-time income relatively easy doing this? I suppose you can automate some of it. I mean there must be lots of niches that really are more evergreen (health, wealth, etc.)

For those who are successful and have sold lots of clickbank products: is the method above a sound one and:
1.) how much time do you take once you've picked an offer to making a sale?

I'm just trying to put together a process so I can either outsource or figure out the best use of my time. Right now I'm taking action and doing these things on a "try and see what happens" and then modify my efforts.
#clickbank #promotion
  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Oh dear: I feel a long post coming on.

    Originally Posted by doctorgringo View Post

    how can you make a full-time income relatively easy doing this?
    Preferably by understanding the key concepts clearly before you start.

    Most people don't, and that's why the failure-rate among ClickBank affiliates is enormously high.

    It's not that people "don't take enough action": it's that they copy things that don't work, and set off in the wrong directions.

    If you set off in the wrong direction, it doesn't make any difference how much "action" you take.

    Originally Posted by doctorgringo View Post

    build a review site
    Bad idea, here, Doc. It can be made to work, but it's a really low-probability idea that completely misses the point of "what makes most people buy ClickBank products, most of the time", and its probability is gradually getting lower all the time, too. Not a good direction at all.

    Originally Posted by doctorgringo View Post

    build seo/keyword-rich content
    Nope. SEO/keyword-rich content is a dreadful idea, for ClickBank affiliates. Ultra-low-probability approach, for a large variety of reasons, starting with the two big ones explained in this post.

    Originally Posted by doctorgringo View Post

    & publish it on my site & on ezines
    You're confused between "ezines" and "article directories", aren't you? (Ezines aren't websites - they're sent out by email to their subscribers. You were thinking of the site called "Ezine Articles", perhaps? That isn't an ezine. It's a repository of content for ezine publishers to syndicate in their ezines).

    Nobody who understands how article marketing works wants to attract potential customers to their site via an article directory, for all the reasons explained in this post (and post #2 of that same thread explains all you need to know about how article directories do work, and it will help you to read that one, too, and to follow its links - there's a whole little "course on content marketing" there).

    Originally Posted by doctorgringo View Post

    Yahoo answers answering
    It can work, but it has a big learning-curve. Most people try to use it the wrong way and get into trouble with it.

    Originally Posted by doctorgringo View Post

    traffic: using impression keyword-rich ads to get traffic
    No ... again, very poor approach. That can attract only the worst-quality traffic: the people who view fewest pages, opt in least and buy anything by far the least. (And are being bombarded daily with promotional emails by all your competitors, too). The people depending on this kind of traffic are the ones who imagine that an open-rate as low as about 15% for your outgoing marketing emails is "normal in this business" and that "most ClickBank sales pages convert targeted traffic at about 0.75 - 1.0%".

    (Those are both widespread but ill-informed beliefs.)

    Originally Posted by doctorgringo View Post

    lots of people make it out to be so simple to do all this stuff
    Those are sometimes the ones who never made any money doing it, but find it's relatively easy to make money by selling "ClickBank guidebooks", "coaching"/"mentoring"/"teaching" services and so on, because there's a huge market full of struggling ClickBank newbies looking for "systems to follow".

    Originally Posted by doctorgringo View Post

    my question really boils down to: how can you make a full-time income relatively easy doing this?
    I didn't find it "relatively easy".

    For me, it was hard work and a long learning-curve.

    I earned almost nothing for 3-4 months (that story's here, if you want it), but persisted and eventually made about $3,000 in my 5th month, and that had grown to $10,000+ per month after another year. And I had some skills before I started (just writing skills, but those are actually very useful for being a ClickBank affiliate), and I was very lucky, too.

    So it can be done, but I wouldn't say "relatively easily".

    Originally Posted by doctorgringo View Post

    here must be lots of niches that really are more evergreen (health, wealth, etc.)
    There are, and those are niches to avoid, for ClickBank newbies.

    That's "size of the pie" thinking. That doesn't work, for most people, most of the time. Key concept: all that matters to you is the size of "your slice of the pie", because that's the only one you can eat/pay into the bank. That's explained in the four other posts linked to inside this post.

    Don't for a moment imagine that you can cut a bigger slice out of a bigger pie. The opposite is true: it's a struggle just to get close to a big pie, because of all the crowds around it (most of them being people with more experience than yourself), let alone to get your knife and fork into it at all.

    Originally Posted by doctorgringo View Post

    For those who are successful and have sold lots of clickbank products: is the method above a sound one
    No. It's one that typifies why most people fail (you wanted honesty, right?)

    Originally Posted by doctorgringo View Post

    and:
    1.) how much time do you take once you've picked an offer to making a sale?
    Please excuse me, I don't quite understand the question. Are you asking how much time elapses in-between my selection of a product to promote and my making my first sale of that product? (If so, it varies a lot but I don't know with any accuracy - sorry: it's not a useful parameter to me or one I've ever really thought about . What matters to me is whether I sell 30 copies of it, or 600 copies or 2,000 copies.).

    Originally Posted by doctorgringo View Post

    I'm just trying to put together a process so I can either outsource
    Good luck with that. It took me over 3 years' nearly-full-time experience before I was ready to start doing that (with hindsight, I could and perhaps should have started doing it after only half of that time, but I didn't know how to, because outsourcing successfully can be a very difficult skill to learn).

    Originally Posted by doctorgringo View Post

    Right now I'm taking action and doing these things on a "try and see what happens" and then modify my efforts.
    It's one approach.

    It was more or less my approach when I started, and that was why I didn't earn anything for a few months.

    It's a perfectly valid approach, though, but ultimately it relies on "getting lucky at some point" and discovering something that works well.

    Here's the thing, though: with ClickBank there are plenty of things that "work well" (albeit that there are also hundreds of things that don't!), but all of them have a few "basic features in common". They're kind of "the commonalities of successful approaches to ClickBank affiliateship", if you want a long-winded label for them. And it makes a lot of sense to start off by understanding those first. I mean really, really understanding them in detail. Absolutely no criticism implied, Doc (nobody was born knowing how to do this stuff!), but at the moment you understand none of them and are floundering badly, just like I was when I started. So, I advise you to stop this "taking action" that you're doing at the moment, and spend a few days looking at those commonalities of the successful methods, learning them, trying to deveop an understanding of them and the marketing realities that they're based on, asking questions about them, and all that kind of stuff. "Education instead of action", you might call it? They're right here: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post7110523

    PS - here's the TL;DR version: "forget and ignore what you're doing now and start here".

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  • Profile picture of the author doctorgringo
    Thanks so much, Lexy. If what you're saying is true... there is a lot of bs stuff being thrown around on here... or maybe I just didn't "get" the concepts when I looked at all those WSO's in the war room. I'm glad you gave me an idea about the successful methods and I'm going to implement them.

    I mean, I'm working at this and won't quit until I get it right... I just enjoy this type of stuff (even if I'm floundering right now). I want to learn and the only reason I thought I had a good plan is because that's what 99% of people on here say to do... but that's also why 99% of people fail I'm guessing?

    So, I will get back to the basics using your method. I mean I can understand high gravity means high affiliates and competition and that makes sense. The lower gravity is more of a "open field" concept but the product sorting is the most important aspect along with writing and providing valuable articles/information to the people who join your list. This is what I think anyway. I hope it's okay if I borrow your method to sort through products.

    Thanks,
    Doc
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      • Profile picture of the author Steve Zones
        yes. it takes time to test whether a clickbank product works or not and scaling it up.
        i always test a clickbank product by creating a video and upload in youtube and see the views or responses.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brent Stangel
    there is a lot of bs stuff being thrown around on here...
    I'll comment...that would be an understatement. (:
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    • Profile picture of the author doctorgringo
      I mean the reality for me is I just want to learn... I don't care how long it takes, or how much I screw up, but the fact is that it's hard to get a good handle on things when some of the things you're being fed by others are false. I know I did Kindle writing and it worked out relatively well.

      I mean, I guess that's the nature of the beast. I may just start researching and looking at what successful affiliates do and do that and also make my own products.
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  • Profile picture of the author RyanIM
    Youtube is a good place to get traffic for promoting clickbank products.
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      What Alexa has outlined for you, Doc, considerably outclasses any WSO you can find on the subject. A fundamental marketing principle used by the most successful affiliates is to build a list of buyers. Once a prospect makes that first purchase from you (no matter how nominal), subsequent promotions tend to result in progressively higher conversion rates.

      You just might be interested to know that Clickbank vendors most assuredly are building lists from the traffic and customers sent to them by affiliates. The same goes for other affiliate programs such as Amazon, CJ, Shareasale, Linkshare, GAN, etc. Despite all the hype, "secret" methods, programs, and systems being touted around here by so-called "gurus" and other misguided marketers, this is a proven marketing concept.

      Consider focusing your marketing efforts within broad networks or groups of people such as within associations, professions and specific demographics. This can span hundreds of highly profitable niches, and marketing to them is a matter of matching relevant products to an engaging funnel system. Developing an affinity within specific groups of people who share a commonality of interests can open up a broad spectrum of lucrative niches and opportunities for referrals and cross-sales.

      For example, I targeted specific demographics in which I was able to develop an affinity and establish relationships. These included medical professionals, legal specialists, accountants, mechanical/electrical/aerospace engineers, managers in business/industry, academia faculty/researchers, trade associations, churches, civic groups, etc. People are multi-dimensional, and have a wide variety of interests which can often be monetized with effective list segmentation.
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  • Profile picture of the author doctorgringo
    Thank you so much for responding. I am going to follow Alexa's advice and go over how to implement yours, myob, and I really appreciate everyone contributing to help me get over this hump!
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  • Profile picture of the author faisalmaximus
    My earning through clickbank is around $250 per month, not very big but not too small. I spent only 2 days to setup everything, and recurring earning of $250 is coming towards my account every month.

    I always give priority to the Gravity option to select any product, then I move for it.

    Thank you
    Faisal
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