A Rather Daring Question to Ask

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This question I want to ask the forum is rather sensitive in nature and I will try to word this as softly as I can. I have another domain in which I own... because of the name of the domain, I can take this site in either of two directions. It would make sense as a site dedicated to mobile phones and mobile services...or as an adult membership site.
What I would like to know is which of these do you believe is more profitable and will bring more traffic and business? Please let me know your experiences and thoughts on this matter.

Thank you
Tim R
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  • Profile picture of the author jonnoryan
    I would have to agree. Making money from the Adult industry would be the last resort for me. I would do it if I had too but as I said it would be the last resort.
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  • Profile picture of the author a1journo
    Too much competition in the adult industry... although it might be good fun
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    • Profile picture of the author Eric Lorence
      Nothing daring about adult marketing, compared to some of the "PC" marketing tactics shilled around...

      Do a search for some adult webmaster forums, you'll learn a lot.

      Not as "easy" as one may think tho.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steven Carl Kelly
    I did it once, a long time ago. A long, long time ago. It's not for me.
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  • Profile picture of the author mikey1090
    High risk = high return?

    Going for some sort of porn or adult site will be tough. There is a lot of money being pumped into that industry so unless you find some unexploited micro niches where you could easily gain traffic it will be tough.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Drinkwater
    What does your core tell you? Picture both sites... see them both making money,,,, which looks bigger in your mind? Which one is in colour? Which one resonates with you most? Which one is you? Do that one.
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  • Profile picture of the author Will Edwards
    mobidick.com ????

    (lol)
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  • Profile picture of the author jessewrites
    This is a no-brainer for me personally because of the moral implications, but with that aside I guess it depends on the profitabillity potential of your mobile phone idea. What direction were you thinking of going with it, if you headed that direction?
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeff Henshaw
      because of the name of the domain, I can take this site in either of two directions. It would make sense as a site dedicated to mobile phones and mobile services...or as an adult membership site.
      What I would like to know is which of these do you believe is more profitable and will bring more traffic and business?
      You have had some good advice here and some "moral" advice.

      You need to research both of your chosen large markets in more detail. Then make an informed decision.

      The Adult market usually, but not exclusively, uses the 'Membership Site' principle and this is required by law in most countries. Telecomms tend to utilise an affiliate type model of one off payments for referrals, or residual income payments.

      Membership sites, adult, dating, gambling (or even Internet marketing) normally have members with a finite life. That is they will leave after a while - but others (new members) will subscribe.

      Telecomms, such as mobiles (cell phones) can generate residual income. Which is good. Remember though that customers are on finite (even if renewable) contracts. You must however, keep pace with ever changing technology, keep your site up to date daily, be up on the latest tariffs and so on. It is a constantly changing and very competitive market.

      "Adult" on the other hand changes little. Put aside the technology and the same thing that appeals to visitors to your site (sex, dating or gambling), will have appealed to the earliest civilizations in the world and will probably still appeal to generations in the future.

      The choice is yours, but if you select the latter, (Adult) your mainstream advertising opportunities will be limited and you need to be very very careful that you are not indirectly exploiting vulnerable people, when you choose the programs or people that you work with.

      Just my thoughts,

      Jeff.
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  • Profile picture of the author artwebster
    I fail to understand this question of morality.

    From what I read above, many people who have a need and drive to seek out 'adult' material would be denied access.

    The simple fact is that 'adult' material exists, it is created by adults for adults (I exclude activities that cause death or maiming) and is often of great therapeutic value.

    Walking around some of the local areas where prostitutes regularly display their wares it is apparent that there is no shortage of libidinous men who could well resort to alternative sources of relief if prostitutes were not available.

    'Adult' sites do serve a purpose, especially in the more mature members of society, and can be of great social benefit.

    If you are an average adult and have an actively sexual partnership, what sort of double standards are you operating where you feel 'adult' content is immoral. Do you always have sex in the dark or with your eyes closed?
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Taylor
    Adult sites suck.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jay Greathouse
      for 8 years I taught classes about running an online business at a community college and had to deal with questions in this area every quarter, from reading the research of others:

      the biggest online spending demographic is 17-35 year old single males; there is the most disposable income and the greatest inclination to spend it

      this demographic uses their computers for, in this order:
      1. porn
      2. games

      no contest where the largest online market is, that is, where the most money changes hands

      WordTracker offers (or at least did offer, now that I think about I haven't seen one in a while) two different daily digests of searched key words, the clean list and the real list, even on the clean list you will find a few of the 'unclean' words; I've read that up to 20% of all web searches are for porn.

      the competition is there because the money is there

      the porn people were the first to monetize the Internet, back when it was dial up bulletin boards they were making money, they were the first to use autoresponders, they pioneered many of the marketing strategies now used every day by legit marketers

      these facts are responsible in large part for Google being the way they are, for example ranking pages with 300-500 words of text higher, because so many porn vendors spoof site key words that 17-35 year old males search for other than porn or games, like skateboarding or motocross

      that is the simple answer to your question, I leave it to you to struggle with the other ones
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    • Profile picture of the author Daniel Scott
      Originally Posted by Michael Taylor View Post

      Adult sites suck.
      Coming from a guy who uses a WoW-based sig on a marketing forum? Not a compelling argument, my friend...

      Now, to the OP:

      I'm assuming by "adult", you mean "porn". There are, of course, other avenues - infoproducts RE: sex, selling toys/accessories/birth control, etc etc...

      Now, I've never tried to be IN the porn "niche", so these are just theories. Take them with a grain of salt. However...

      I imagine with the advent of stuff like YouPorn.com and RedTube.com, spending at porn sites would be way, way down... considering no one could ever watch all the stuff on those sites.

      My thinking is that in the future, to survive in porn you'll need to have something really unique... Which, for most people, I assume means to focus on individual fetishes... and micro-fetishes... much like an "average" internet marketer would drill through niches and micro-niches.

      Now, being an affiliate in porn would, I assume, require a LOT of traffic due to the aforementioned issues with visitors being almost totally (not quite totally though) freebie seekers... you're competing against so much free stuff it's almost unbearable.

      I don't know much about the cell phone market... so I'll withold comments on that.

      Either niche is going to be a really tough nut to crack... but porn is probably the more difficult of the two. Sure, potentially big payoff... but let's just say I don't think it's something most marketers (myself included) could pull off.

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  • Profile picture of the author J Bold
    Ringtones are pretty hot as well, so "stiff" competition in both markets, ha ha.
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  • Profile picture of the author Smokey_Joe
    I'm just curious: what's the domain name in the end? Because mobile phones and adult - I've run out of guesses
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  • Profile picture of the author crystalq
    Build an eBay or Amazon store and sell cell phones.
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