Is this a Solo Ad Scam?

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Hey Warriors!

I need your help... A few days ago I bought a 500 clicks solo ad from a vendor I won't mention here (a first time buy for me with this vendor). The vendor was very responsive and was replying to all the emails prior to the transaction.

On the day that the solo went out I got 99 clicks (401 missing) and around 45-50 opt-ins (which is a normal opt-in percentage for my squeeze page).

The first thing that was a bit weird was that ALL of the opt-in were from New York, Chicago, Miami, Atlanta and a couple more cities... I'm buying many solo ads recently and I know that this Never Happens!

Is this vendor sending me some kind of bot traffic that opt-ins on my page?

The other thing is that I've send the vendor a couple of emails asking about this weird pattern and the rest of the clicks and there's no response until now...

The vendor has a payment gateway set up with 2Checkout.com and I paid with PayPal- if the rest of the clicks won't be delivered should I file a report in the Resolution Centre with PayPal?

Thanks for your help!

Art
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  • Profile picture of the author GordonOliver
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    How responsive are these so called subscribers? You can actually do a quick stat check from Aweber.
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  • Profile picture of the author GordonOliver
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    Yes, under stats exported to CSV. Do you get clicks from these subscribers?
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  • Profile picture of the author Brendon Zahrndt
    Art you received 50 subscribers, which is average for this funnel, yet no OTO sales?

    What are your average conversions at that stage?

    That right there tells me something is up.

    What that something is remains to be seen, I suppose..
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  • Profile picture of the author Gavin Stephenson
    If he/she isn't responding then it looks like you need to get your money back.

    You bough 500 but only got 99.

    Plus share who this person is so others can avoid buying from this person.
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  • Profile picture of the author steelbuzz
    Might not be a scam but an under delivery.
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  • Profile picture of the author JensSteyaert
    Perhaps the seller will send more clicks on a later date, that's possible. But then he could at least contact you with more info.

    That's why i always advice to buy small packages if you don't know the seller, and keep data about clicks, conversions and delivery time. It will save you headaches when you buy a large package in the future.
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  • Profile picture of the author NK
    You can try to pretend you're a new potential client and try to contact him for more information. See if you get any response. If you do, then he's probably avoiding you. If not, maybe he's just not around at the moment.
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  • Profile picture of the author steelbuzz
    Maybe he expected 500 clicks on your ad but only got 100 and doesn't know what to do?

    Not sure.....

    Maybe you should reveal his username and the thread so we're aware of it and we could do a group mediation and decide what to do thereafter.
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  • Profile picture of the author artflair
    I'll try to contact the vendor from another email, that's a good idea!
    I typically start with a 100 but with this vendor 500 is a minimum... I'm buying thousands of clicks recently so I just bought it.
    This vendor has packages of thousands of clicks so the delivery shouldn't be a problem.
    I don't want to reveal the name yet - I hope that this is only temporary and everything will go well...
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  • Profile picture of the author jamescanz
    Originally Posted by artflair View Post

    I need your help... A few days ago I bought a 500 clicks solo ad from a vendor I won't mention here (a first time buy for me with this vendor).
    A little 'pro' tip for ya Art...

    Always always always buy 100 clicks from someone if it's your 1st time buying from them

    Not only does it help you from getting scammed out of more money...

    But even if the solo seller is reliable and has jaw-dropping testimonials...

    Sometimes their traffic just isn't a match for your offer

    (it happens sometimes)

    However, once you have a winner...

    Feel free to buy the bigger packages after the 'test run'
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  • Profile picture of the author artflair
    Yeah, I know James...
    This was actually the first time I did something like this!
    I was in a 'solo ad buying mode' and just went for it without even thinking.
    Lesson learned!
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  • Profile picture of the author briankoz
    First, there's a decent chunk of solo ad sellers that are fake / very low quality clicks. There's lots of bots out there to do this kind of stuff, and I've even seen sellers with people leaving great reviews that use these bots.

    The problem is that most people don't have an easy way of telling this stuff. This is why it's super important to have a low priced OTO offer be the first thing your opt-ins see (followed by the higher priced offers). By low priced I mean like $7 or so.

    As for testing out offers, yes, 100 clicks is an okay test for opt-ins, but not an okay test for sales. You could get 30 to 50 opt-ins and no sales and that doesn't mean that it's crappy. You need at least 100 to 200 subscribers usually to get a rough idea of that (and ideally more).

    From running SoloAdMarketplace.com for awhile, I can tell you that of all the vendors that apply to be verified (where we track opt-ins, sales, IP's, etc.), only a handful pass the inspection process, so we've seen pretty much every trick in the book in terms of fake sign-ups and the like, and it's a lot more common than you might think. That's also why even on the verified guys we have guarantees in place if you can prove that they weren't legit clicks or opt-ins.

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    • Profile picture of the author artflair
      Originally Posted by briankoz View Post

      First, there's a decent chunk of solo ad sellers that are fake / very low quality clicks. There's lots of bots out there to do this kind of stuff, and I've even seen sellers with people leaving great reviews that use these bots.

      The problem is that most people don't have an easy way of telling this stuff. This is why it's super important to have a low priced OTO offer be the first thing your opt-ins see (followed by the higher priced offers). By low priced I mean like $7 or so.

      As for testing out offers, yes, 100 clicks is an okay test for opt-ins, but not an okay test for sales. You could get 30 to 50 opt-ins and no sales and that doesn't mean that it's crappy. You need at least 100 to 200 subscribers usually to get a rough idea of that (and ideally more).

      From running SoloAdMarketplace.com for awhile, I can tell you that of all the vendors that apply to be verified (where we track opt-ins, sales, IP's, etc.), only a handful pass the inspection process, so we've seen pretty much every trick in the book in terms of fake sign-ups and the like, and it's a lot more common than you might think. That's also why even on the verified guys we have guarantees in place if you can prove that they weren't legit clicks or opt-ins.

      - Brian
      Thank you Brian, that's very helpful!
      Art
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