Quantity over Quality , Are You That Guy?

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But it's a numbers game...
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LOL - Now that's what I call timing.

FWIW - I typed my other comment before yours so it wasn't aimed at you

Haha - ok

In reality - there's almost always a benefit to more quantity in most IM related and promotional activities, it's the creation of content and product where poor quality screws you, so you can make an arguement for both - depending on what you want to prove.

I absolutely agree with you, McDonald , if you produce a lot of quality value to your customers that could result in some major success.

Who could ever go wrong with quantity times quality?

This is a great analogy and I'm curious of the debates that could follow from a result of it.

Your hamburger and fries restaurant in Queens doesn't compete with my hamburger and fries restaurant in Brooklyn.

But your How to cure acne information site will certainly be competing with tens of thousands of other How to cure acne information sites on the Internet.

Tyrus

This Is Only My Opinion. Everyone should always run their business the same they should run their lives happily and without joy in your business I don't see how you could ever succeed in the end.

So I must continue to disagree with you Matt , I do not believe it's a separate issue. I believe our business and life are one and the same, with disbelief you can turn your business a legacy.

Again, this is only my opinion, and I have been wrong in the past. And if you sincerely think I'm wrong in the subject Please immediately inform me.
Clint

I disagree with this almost completely.

Many people go for quantity because they're using tools that make quantity simple - but quality is low.

Just because you send 10 million spam emails and get $100 in sales, doesn't mean that it was a good model. If you could send 1000 high quality, well targeted emails and make $1000 instead you'd be stupid to just spam the hell out of people "because it makes money".

This is the real point behind all these quality vs quantity discussions.

Most people realise that higher quality almost always means better results, whether it's making food, writing copy or creating products.

And most people understand leveraging tools to be more effective with some promotional activities, but the right answer for where to focus is different for each person/niche.

If you have nothing online and are making money you could argue that spending a few days writing seed articles to put into an automated article writer is time well spent if you get 2 million articles out of it to throw up and run Adsense with.

But if you need to have 100 million pages online and indexed at any one time in order to make $1000 a month, you could find yourself a slave to your model and working everyday just to keep your crap articles in the search engines and making money.

If you spent a little longer and wrote a useful ebook, a free report, some emails and created a membership site which after a few months was making $1000 a month - and only took you 3 hours a month to maintain - you might say the quality had performed much better than quantity.

It all depends on what you're doing.

For some people they have the best of both worlds - creating great quality (content and products) and supporting it with high quantity (links and promotional activities).

ANdy

lmao

I think I've seen some of your sites

I'm pretty sure you are from my city!

Out of curiosity, I must ask you if this has personally worked for you. It is my suspicion that it has not worked it is only a theory you have produced.

I've tested quantity over quality,and it has failed for me. The thing that has turned me into a success is quality value I distribute.

I must be confused on the destination of "loser" or are you telling me that it has the same definition as winner?

This is only my opinion please correct me quickly if I am indeed mistaking
Clint

Hi Kevin,

This is the crux of the matter really.

Many of us in this forum make our money outside the IM niche and while I do test all of the 'automation' tools I find (yes, I used 'bomb' scripts, TE, RP, NM, CM, and all of the other systems that came out for throwing up millions of keyword based web pages) over the last 10 years, so I've made good money from that type of method.

However, after a time all of those systems results dwindled and they were based on "it's a numbers game" and keeping on creating faster than the search engines can penalise you.

For some people that's a game they want to play - for most people, it's so tenuous and variable that it doesn't consitute the 'right' way for them to build a successful business.

Now, there's a difference here between making money and building a business and a lot of newbies miss this.

You can make money selling drugs or guns, and you could even apply a lot of marketing psychology to your 'business', and you certainly would have a market of hungry buyers (especially with the munchies) - but it's still not what most people would call the best way to create a business because of the ethics involved.

For many people starting a business online - initially it's all about the money, and this is why a lot of people get involved in systems for doing things on a massive scale quickly and easily.
For some people it actually makes enough money for it to have been worthwhile.

However, for a lot of people starting out online - they're not looking for a quick fix 'anything goes' solution - they're actually trying to build a business they can be proud of, that will pay for their home and put their kids through college.
They want to create something they're happy to talk about and tell others what they do.

Something that fulfills them.

Something that inspires them.

Something that gives them some of the juice of life.

Something that gets them out of bed in the morning looking forward to the day.

Making money doesn't give you all of that.

It's true that making money is great and I've had days when I've danced down the street and bought strangers dinner because I've just had a great day in that respect - but for me it's also about HOW I made it.

Life isn't a destination - it's a journey and making money is just a small part of where the good stuff is.

So, yes - there are times when quantity is a huge advantage and replicating success is great - especially if it's quick and easy.

I don't think anyone would argue that point.

But the issue at hand here isn't really about that - it's about whether when you start out you set your goals so low that (using your restaurant analogy) you don't check your local market for fresh produce - you just buy frozen processed food which slowly poisons your customers but they don't complain and you still make money.

Not everyone wants to be a great chef, but most people want to create a life with meaning that gives them as many benefits as possible - money being just one of those.

Andy

You defend black Hat, by referring to traffic generation methods such as PPC , but something you must realize this, quality content that contributes great value will always contain its own source of traffic.

In Black hat, you will always be chasing customers, But if you deliver quality, Customers will always chase you no matter what changes. when you deliver quality. It will not matter, if things change, because the people they see your quality and will always promote your business online or off-line with whatever the new thing is.

Black Hat/ Quantity= you must find your customers and the newest method to drive traffic

White Hat/ Quality= customers driving traffic with the newest methods

This is only my opinion, and I have absolutely been wrong in the past. If you feel that you have a different opinion, although you cannot refuse mine feel free to share.

Interesting statements. Let me ask you why do brick-and-mortars succeed?

Because they constantly place ads in the newspaper? Because they advertise on TV? Maybe to some degree, but that can change too. Ad prices can get too high to be profitable. Effectiveness of the campaigns can fail. Whatever...life changes offline too. It's silly to think it doesn't.

BUT seriously - long-term businesses online and off are built on repeat business and word-of-mouth. That doesn't change because you're on the Internet...unless you're not putting forth any quality.

One's business shouldn't shrivel up because a traffic source dies. Maybe that's the downfall of quantity over quality?

Alice

There seems to be a lot of good solid defense for the quality over quantity. Although quantity does have its points To prove.

This is a great example Dan and how quality conkers quantity.

This is me showing appreciation for your input. Hope you accept
Clint

my point exactly Easy .

I guess it all boils down to how you want to feel about your busines sand yourself. Do you want to know you produced a lot of junk that made you a lot of money. Or do you want to leave a legacy of delivering high top notch quality value that adds others' lives and securing your family's financial freedom.

This is just my opinion, although it is right. You will always hold the right to disagree, and if you do now is your chance to step up and say something.
Clint