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Your WSO Has Dropped Off 2nd Page...

by WillR
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Is it just me or are others getting a heap of these private messages?

I have had about 6 private messages today regarding the one WSO.

ANNOYING!

How do we disable these messages from admin.
#2nd #dropped #page #wso
  • Profile picture of the author Adie
    Not in PM but am receiving tons on my email especially those from thomas lewis and there is no unsubscribe link.
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  • Profile picture of the author JensSteyaert
    It's not just you, i also received a bunch of messages the last days to inform me my Wso's have dropped off a certain page.

    I checked and the "receive messages from administrator" is turned off, so i guess it's not possible to stop these messages.

    Well it's their business, but i think they should add the option to turn them off...
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  • Profile picture of the author laurencewins
    I only received one and found that annoying enough. It's sad that there are so many negative changes since the new owners took control. I don't know why they make such changes when it only frustrates the many members here and may cause some to disappear.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alast
    Coincidentally, I just got my second message soon after reading this message. I dislike it, and hope it can be changed. I don't need to be continuously reminded that my thread is off the first page. Obviously if I was told the first time, and didn't bump it.. then I shouldn't need to be told again, right? Unless it magically appeared on the first page again.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alast
    Oh wow, I just got my third. 2 in 20 minutes.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    I appreciate the notification that I can now bump my ads. Great idea, admin and thank you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nino
    How about the empty notification e-mails? (to some of you... those might go into spam)
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  • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
    Originally Posted by WillR View Post

    Is it just me or are others getting a heap of these private messages?

    I have had about 6 private messages today regarding the one WSO.

    ANNOYING!

    How do we disable these messages from admin.
    Will, I've PM'd the new Admin to point him to this thread to bring this to his attention.

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  • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
    Well, on a different note...

    I miss the icon that tells me I've posted in a particular thread. Consequently, I'll look at the main page and not bother to click on anything. Not having that icon disengages users though I am getting more work done not hanging around the forum as much.
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    • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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      Originally Posted by travlinguy View Post

      Well, on a different note...

      I miss the icon that tells me I've posted in a particular thread. Consequently, I'll look at the main page and not bother to click on anything. Not having that icon disengages users though I am getting more work done not hanging around the forum as much.
      I'm with you there. I cannot for the life of me fathom why they would take away a marker that shows us we're participating in a thread. There's a star if it's not a hot thread, but most of the threads I participate in are hot threads, so that little star icon is pretty useless.

      One of the reasons that I like the email notification ... saves me the hassle of looking for my threads in a whole page of ads to see if it's time to bump them. A real PITA.
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      • Profile picture of the author Zodiax
        Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

        I'm with you there. I cannot for the life of me fathom why they would take away a marker that shows us we're participating in a thread. There's a star if it's not a hot thread, but most of the threads I participate in are hot threads, so that little star icon is pretty useless.

        One of the reasons that I like the email notification ... saves me the hassle of looking for my threads in a whole page of ads to see if it's time to bump them. A real PITA.
        You know, it is a PITA when you don't use ctrl+f

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        • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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          Originally Posted by Zodiax View Post

          You know, it is a PITA when you don't use ctrl+f
          ctrl+ f doesn't cut it when you are scrolling down a list of titles after hitting New Posts and you'd like to be able to easily identify the threads that you are participating in.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lance K
    They cut the listing fee in half so IMO it's natural to expect them to try to recoup some of that revenue through bump fees.

    Anyway, with the increase in affiliate sales and (what seems to me...I have no proof) a drop in organic traffic in the WSO section I'd strongly consider setting all WSO (and maybe even all paid) threads to expire/delete after X days on page 3 or beyond or after X days if I owned the joint. Try paying for a newspaper classified ad one time and having it run forever. Tell your ad rep it's ok because they can just bump it down to the end of the classified section.

    I get that the notification emails/PMs might be a slight annoyance. But if I advertised in the paid sections here I don't think I'd make much fuss without first considering how good I really have it from an advertising standpoint.

    That said, I'm not singling you out, Will. Or anyone else for that matter. Having the option to disable the notifications is not an unreasonable request. But I do understand why they're sending them.
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    • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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      Originally Posted by Lance K View Post

      They cut the listing fee in half so IMO it's natural to expect them to try to recoup some of that revenue through bump fees.

      Anyway, with the increase in affiliate sales and (what seems to me...I have no proof) a drop in organic traffic in the WSO section I'd strongly consider setting all WSO (and maybe even all paid) threads to expire/delete after X days on page 3 or beyond or after X days if I owned the joint. Try paying for a newspaper classified ad one time and having it run forever. Tell your ad rep it's ok because they can just bump it down to the end of the classified section.
      Not quite the same thing. The farther past page 3 it gets, the less attention it gets and that isn't the case with a print ad which stays in the same spot until it's done running. Doing that would just make it more of a pain to re-run the ad at a later date. Have to recreate and wait for approval all over again instead of just bumping it.

      As for cutting the listing fee in half, I'll venture it guess that with the increased amount of WSOs being created and bumped due to the lower cost, that they make more than they did at $40. It seems Paul may have said something like that some time ago, although I can't be certain.
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    • Profile picture of the author WillR
      Originally Posted by Lance K View Post

      I get that the notification emails/PMs might be a slight annoyance. But if I advertised in the paid sections here I don't think I'd make much fuss without first considering how good I really have it from an advertising standpoint.
      1 notification is one thing. But as I said there is bug and as such I had 3 separate notification for the one WSO yesterday within about 10 minutes. Add that to the mix when you have 15+ WSO's and that is when things are ultra annoying.

      But I'd prefer no notifications anyway and this should be an option. So hopefully they will appear in this thread and tell us how we can disable those notifications.
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      • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
        Suzanne,
        As for cutting the listing fee in half, I'll venture it guess that with the increased amount of WSOs being created and bumped due to the lower cost, that they make more than they did at $40. It seems Paul may have said something like that some time ago, although I can't be certain.
        Nope. I may have speculated, but I don't have any info on the topic, so I wouldn't make any concrete statements on it.

        I'd be surprised to find I said anything more than it was a possibility.


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  • Profile picture of the author Brent Stangel
    I've got you all beat.

    I received a WSO notice though I don't have any WSOs posted.

    When I checked the WSO thread in question, it was actually an APD thread.

    They definitely have some work to do.

    I cannot for the life of me fathom why they would take away a marker that shows us we're participating in a thread.
    I would think it would be a five second fix. As Travlinguy mentioned, I don't even bother looking any more.
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    • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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      Originally Posted by Brent Stangel View Post

      I've got you all beat.

      I received a WSO notice though I don't have any WSOs posted.

      When I checked the WSO thread in question, it was actually an APD thread.

      They definitely have some work to do.

      I would think it would be a five second fix. As Travlinguy mentioned, I don't even bother looking any more.
      The APD and all the subforums under WSO are getting the notifications because their main category is WSO. Mine is Complete Sites for Sale, which is also under WSO, and like I said, were it not for the notification, finding my threads would be tedious.
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  • Profile picture of the author ForumGuru
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    Yeah...I am getting dropped off the first page and dropped off of the second page PMs.
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  • Profile picture of the author RonGold
    Could this be it? Is Warrior Forum finally going down?

    Please don't, and I do agree these PM's are incredibly annoying.

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      Originally Posted by RonGold View Post

      Could this be it? Is Warrior Forum finally going down?

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  • Profile picture of the author gluckspilz
    Received 4 emails a few days ago in regards to my wso.. Not cool. The email where my WSo is on 3rd page makes sense but the rest are just annoying,
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  • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
    Personally I don't have to be reminded that my WSO is available to be bumped because it's a part of my business to know that. I don't think notifications are helpful at all and just another time sink in my day if I had to read/delete them.

    This is sort of like a catch 22 right.

    Forum notifies all the vendors they can bump = falling off the first page quicker = more revenue for the forum = less exposure for the advertiser.
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    • Profile picture of the author WillR
      Originally Posted by Rus Sells View Post

      Personally I don't have to be reminded that my WSO is available to be bumped because it's a part of my business to know that. I don't think notifications are helpful at all and just another time sink in my day if I had to read/delete them.

      This is sort of like a catch 22 right.

      Forum notifies all the vendors they can bump = falling off the first page quicker = more revenue for the forum = less exposure for the advertiser.
      Rus,

      I thought the exact same thing when I saw those notifications. They may say they are trying to 'help' us by sending those notifications but infact all they do is serve to remind more people to bump their offers and thus mean we all get less exposure of our WSO's. So yes, they are definitely not in our favor, they only serve to make the forum more money.

      Still surprised Alistair hasn't shown in this thread yet.
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      • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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        Originally Posted by WillR View Post

        Rus,

        I thought the exact same thing when I saw those notifications. They may say they are trying to 'help' us by sending those notifications but infact all they do is serve to remind more people to bump their offers and thus mean we all get less exposure of our WSO's. So yes, they are definitely not in our favor, they only serve to make the forum more money.

        Still surprised Alistair hasn't shown in this thread yet.
        By we all get less exposure, you mean you get less exposure? The ones who are reminded to bump their WSO will get more exposure if they bump it rather than less exposure. At any rate, since the price is now a mere $20, I'm sure everyone gets at least $20 worth of exposure.

        I understand if YOU don't want the notifications, but some of us are happy to have the notifications, so turning them off individually, if that's possible, should be the way to go.
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        • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
          Actually no I don't mean "I" get less exposure because I haven't released or bumped any of my past WSO's for many months now.

          Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

          By we all get less exposure, you mean you get less exposure? The ones who are reminded to bump their WSO will get more exposure if they bump it rather than less exposure. At any rate, since the price is now a mere $20, I'm sure everyone gets at least $20 worth of exposure.

          I understand if YOU don't want the notifications, but some of us are happy to have the notifications, so turning them off individually, if that's possible, should be the way to go.
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          • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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            Originally Posted by Rus Sells View Post

            Actually no I don't mean "I" get less exposure because I haven't released or bumped any of my past WSO's for many months now.
            .. and actually, "I" didn't quote or respond to "your" post. "I" quoted and responded to Will's post.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mrdiehard
    I'm Kind of new here someone recomended me to do WSO's thought the email were the way it was suppost to be...
    but now i see it wasn't...

    and there is also no warning when your wso gets transfer to another subcategory, this happen to me to day.
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  • Profile picture of the author vikash_kumar
    I have received more than 10 PM's (If I remember correctly) in last 2 days, I replied back to two of those messages requesting to correct the bug. However, No answer....
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  • Profile picture of the author Global Content Services
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    Originally Posted by WillR View Post

    Is it just me or are others getting a heap of these private messages?

    I have had about 6 private messages today regarding the one WSO.

    ANNOYING!

    How do we disable these messages from admin.
    I also got several messages (saying the same thing) last week. I also want to know how to fix this error. Don't want to keep getting the same message(s) in my inbox a week after bumping my thread.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alaister
      Hi everyone,

      We're looking into this right now and figuring out why some of you a receiving these PMs so frequently.

      I'll keep you guys in the loop with what we find and how we implement a fix.

      thanks
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      • Profile picture of the author vikash_kumar
        Hi Aliaister,
        Thanks for your response!
        It's a good feature for many of us, though we need to have a way to control the frequency of these messages.

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        Originally Posted by Alaister View Post

        Hi everyone,

        We're looking into this right now and figuring out why some of you a receiving these PMs so frequently.

        I'll keep you guys in the loop with what we find and how we implement a fix.

        thanks
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      • Profile picture of the author brutecky
        Originally Posted by Alaister View Post

        Hi everyone,

        We're looking into this right now and figuring out why some of you a receiving these PMs so frequently.

        I'll keep you guys in the loop with what we find and how we implement a fix.

        thanks
        How about you remove the messages all together? The WSO section got plenty of bumps and posts for a long time without ever having these things. Instead of bugging people to bump how about you spend your time making this an awesome forum full of people so we all want to bump / make posts in the WSO section. That is put your effort into making the forum even better, not into begging people to pay you again.
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  • Profile picture of the author Marco Moeschter
    Getting three messages in 10 minutes can be kind of annoying but I personally welcome that I get a notice that my WSO dropped from the 1,2,3 page. Makes it easier for me to see how it is doing and when to bump. I guess in the next weeks the new owners will make all those processes more smooth.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alaister
      Originally Posted by Marco Moeschter View Post

      Getting three messages in 10 minutes can be kind of annoying but I personally welcome that I get a notice that my WSO dropped from the 1,2,3 page. Makes it easier for me to see how it is doing and when to bump. I guess in the next weeks the new owners will make all those processes more smooth.
      Yeh I can understand that the frequency of these messages can be very annoying. We'll fix this shortly.
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    I wish we had the option to turn this notification (and the subsequent emails).
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  • Profile picture of the author CyberAlien
    Good thing you posted this thread in the main forum, the suggestions forum has become a graveyard - threads just go there to die.

    It took staff 3 days to respond here, you would have been waiting for weeks if you'd posted in the right forum
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  • Profile picture of the author Gavin Stephenson
    It would be good if there was scheduled bumps...

    Set and forget!

    Example:

    Let's say I wanted my bump my WSO every tuesday and thursday at 2pm EST for example and my thread is off the second page it would automatically bump my wso without me having to do it manually.

    I'd rather have that, than getting notifications.

    I understand WarriorPlus has auto bump but scheduled bumps would be a great addition to the forum warrior forum and warrior+
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    I think I only get it once per WSO
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  • Profile picture of the author waterotter
    How about you remove the messages all together?
    You can do that yourself by going to your User CP and uncheck "Receive Email from Administrators".
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    • Profile picture of the author WillR
      Originally Posted by waterotter View Post

      You can do that yourself by going to your User CP and uncheck "Receive Email from Administrators".
      As far as I am aware, emails and private messages are two different things.
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      • Profile picture of the author millionairesandie
        Originally Posted by travlinguy View Post

        I miss the icon that tells me I've posted in a particular thread. Consequently, I'll look at the main page and not bother to click on anything. Not having that icon disengages users though I am getting more work done not hanging around the forum as much.
        Yes and the arrow that wold take you to your last read post.
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        • Profile picture of the author Alaister
          Originally Posted by WillR View Post

          Thanks Alaister. Also we need some way to turn these notifications off as it is too much for those of us with a lot of WSO's. Please let us know how we can do that.

          Thanks.
          Originally Posted by brutecky View Post

          How about you remove the messages all together? The WSO section got plenty of bumps and posts for a long time without ever having these things. Instead of bugging people to bump how about you spend your time making this an awesome forum full of people so we all want to bump / make posts in the WSO section. That is put your effort into making the forum even better, not into begging people to pay you again.
          Originally Posted by WillR View Post

          As far as I am aware, emails and private messages are two different things.

          We've made a change and you can now disable these messages in your "User Control Panel" by unticking "Receive Email from Administrators".

          The frequency should also be fixed.
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