Why on earth would you PM me with this?

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I received a PM and I just don't get the nerve of some people.


Hi there, How are you doing?

Would you be keen to review a WSO of mine that I am launching later today? Thanks for your kind consideration!

Regards,

If you want me to do a review for you, you had better give me a weeks notice! Do I have nothing better to do with my time, I do have my own business to run.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve B
    Makes you wonder if the WSO was thrown together at the last minute as well.

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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      It was probably from someone who doesn't know that there's an established method of gathering WSO reviewers, by posting here with "[Reviews Wanted]" at the start of the subject-line?

      I get a couple of those a week, on average.

      Sometimes (but not very often) they even take the trouble to mention what the WSO's actually about, so you can see whether it might be relevant to you.

      (I don't review them, myself, unless I've bought and paid for them, but that's just me).
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  • Profile picture of the author Carl Donovan
    Granted, it is a bit brisk, but you might also see it as flattery. This person clearly admires your wisdom and level of influence. (And, no, I didn't send it!)
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    • Profile picture of the author brutecky
      Originally Posted by Carl Donovan View Post

      Granted, it is a bit brisk, but you might also see it as flattery. This person clearly admires your wisdom and level of influence. (And, no, I didn't send it!)
      Yea I agree. Sure its short notice. But the guy obviously cares about your opinion so you should see it as a complement. If you dont have the time to do it or just dont want to simply decline. Honestly making a thread about it just makes you look like arrogent. This thread does a much better job of making you look bad then it does him.
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    • Profile picture of the author JensSteyaert
      Originally Posted by Carl Donovan View Post

      Granted, it is a bit brisk, but you might also see it as flattery. This person clearly admires your wisdom and level of influence. (And, no, I didn't send it!)
      I agree with this, you can see it as a compliment, it's not as if he is begging you to buy his stuff, he just wants your opinion...

      Just be nice to people, we're here to help eachother out
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  • Profile picture of the author laurencewins
    I get those sometimes as well and I explain how to do it the right way. I NEVER review anything where somebody has approached me in that way.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
    Kewl beans then! I'll send the link right over. You've have to download the package. It's a little big at 15 GB but I will make it worth your while by hitting the Thanks button on your review.

    Thanks so much for your help.

    Mark

    PS This is set to launch today right after dinner time East Coast USA so HURRY!!

    Originally Posted by joseph7384 View Post

    I received a PM and I just don't get the nerve of some people.

    If you want me to do a review for you, you had better give me a weeks notice! Do I have nothing better to do with my time, I do have my own business to run.
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  • Profile picture of the author cyberdenizen
    Gee, I'm really glad I read this thread. I'm going to launch a WSO a few weeks from now and I'm about to look for reviewers for my product. Now I know what not to do. Thanks, guys!
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    • Profile picture of the author joseph7384
      Originally Posted by HelpingYouBeAnExpert View Post

      I hate to break it to you buddy but most people are not considerate or care about your time. I know it's shocking but get used to it.


      I'm going to be 51 years old in a few weeks so I've been on this earth long enough to know that and I really don't think that I need to be schooled on peoples ignorance.

      The reason I posted this was not whining but rather some insight for what not to do and if it can help members such as the one quoted below then it was worth posting.




      Originally Posted by cyberdenizen View Post

      Gee, I'm really glad I read this thread. I'm going to launch a WSO a few weeks from now and I'm about to look for reviewers for my product. Now I know what not to do. Thanks, guys!
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      • Originally Posted by joseph7384 View Post

        I'm going to be 51 years old in a few weeks so I've been on this earth long enough to know that and I really don't think that I need to be schooled on peoples ignorance.

        The reason I posted this was not whining but rather some insight for what not to do and if it can help members such as the one quoted below then it was worth posting.
        I don't think they care about what to do or not to do nor will most listen to you or read your post. It is what it is, that is why they police thousands of stupid laws to force people to do things, most just do stupid things all the time, like I said it is what it is.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brent Stangel
    I agreed to do one about a year ago. I liked the guy so I agreed.

    OMG! In my wildest hallucination I couldn't of come up with one positive thing to say. If I would have posted a review it would of killed his WSO before it even got started.

    Since then I just ignore requests.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
      I've been in that boat too. I just wish there was an easy way to help the person needing the review while also protecting the soon to be "victims".

      Mark

      Originally Posted by Brent Stangel View Post

      I agreed to do one about a year ago. I liked the guy so I agreed.

      OMG! In my wildest hallucination I couldn't of come up with one positive thing to say. If I would have posted a review it would of killed his WSO before it even got started.

      Since then I just ignore requests.
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  • Profile picture of the author laurencewins
    The last few products I have agreed to review have been so full of errors and bold, incorrect statements that I couldn't write the review or it would have also killed sales, as Brent also found.
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    "Stupid is as stupid does" -- Forrest Gump
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      I agree with all of you. It's honestly easier just "not to do them". I just reply telling people - perfectly honestly - that "with apologies, I only ever review WSO's when I've bought, paid for and used the product". I think people don't take it personally and aren't offended.

      (There are some habitual WSO reviewers who seem to do nothing but review huge numbers of WSO's in exchange for free copies, and don't otherwise post. I just don't know whether a glowing review from them is an asset or a liability!).
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  • Originally Posted by joseph7384 View Post

    I received a PM and I just don't get the nerve of some people.





    If you want me to do a review for you, you had better give me a weeks notice! Do I have nothing better to do with my time, I do have my own business to run.
    I hate to break it to you buddy but most people are not considerate or care about your time. I know it's shocking but get used to it.
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  • Profile picture of the author cyberzolo
    Proabaly a low quality WSO put together at the last minute hoping to get tons of sales
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  • Profile picture of the author Brent Stangel
    The reason I posted this was not whining but rather some insight for what not to do
    Like create garbage "products" and then try to get people to endorse them? Like that?
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    • Profile picture of the author joseph7384
      Originally Posted by Brent Stangel View Post

      Like create garbage "products" and then try to get people to endorse them? Like that?

      Exactly, I will not endorse most of the crap out there. A product has to be above and beyond my expectations to get any endorsement from me.

      Most of the yahoo's who endorse WSO'S don't even try them themselves.
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    Originally Posted by joseph7384 View Post

    I received a PM and I just don't get the nerve of some people.





    If you want me to do a review for you, you had better give me a weeks notice! Do I have nothing better to do with my time, I do have my own business to run.
    Or you could just politely say... "thanks, but I won't have time
    to do it today. I appreciate you thinking of me."

    Seriously... what's the point of all the drama?
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    • Profile picture of the author joseph7384
      Originally Posted by Tsnyder View Post

      Or you could just politely say... "thanks, but I won't have time
      to do it today. I appreciate you thinking of me."

      Seriously... what's the point of all the drama?
      Who said anything about drama, you must have just read the OP and skip the replies.
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      • Profile picture of the author Tsnyder
        Originally Posted by joseph7384 View Post

        Who said anything about drama, you must have just read the OP and skip the replies.
        Well... let's think for a moment... I'm responding to the OP, not the replies.

        The OP is full of drama. Hence, my response. Take it or leave it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
    Aside from time, inconvenience, etc. I've often wondered why people that know a product is worse than useless won't speak up about it.

    I understand we aren't the police sent to protect the forum or the people that don't do their due diligence but then why do we report spam? Why do we care about the rules and speak up about them?

    Why do we help others by giving them advice all day long to help them solve problems, build a business, get out of debt, save their family or whatever but we don't dare open our mouth and say "this product is a waste of your money (in whatever format or language would be the best) - please don't buy it"?

    I've heard before and in this thread that we don't do it because we don't want to hurt the sellers. Well why stop there? Why not let the spammers run rampant with their junk - they have families to feed too and they are sellers of something.

    Mark
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    • Profile picture of the author brutecky
      Originally Posted by Mark Singletary View Post

      Aside from time, inconvenience, etc. I've often wondered why people that know a product is worse than useless won't speak up about it.
      Ill tell you why. Because affiliates dont make any money by telling the truth. They make money by convincing people to buy stuff.
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      • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
        Originally Posted by brutecky View Post

        Ill tell you why. Because affiliates dont make any money by telling the truth. They make money by convincing people to buy stuff.
        Which is why affiliates should be required to identify themselves as such, with penalties for both the affiliates and vendors who turn a blind eye to affiliate shenanigans.
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    • Profile picture of the author knishida
      Originally Posted by Mark Singletary View Post

      Aside from time, inconvenience, etc. I've often wondered why people that know a product is worse than useless won't speak up about it.

      I understand we aren't the police sent to protect the forum or the people that don't do their due diligence but then why do we report spam? Why do we care about the rules and speak up about them?

      Why do we help others by giving them advice all day long to help them solve problems, build a business, get out of debt, save their family or whatever but we don't dare open our mouth and say "this product is a waste of your money (in whatever format or language would be the best) - please don't buy it"?

      I've heard before and in this thread that we don't do it because we don't want to hurt the sellers. Well why stop there? Why not let the spammers run rampant with their junk - they have families to feed too and they are sellers of something.

      Mark
      Great thoughts, Mark. I think honest, constructive reviews are the gold standard.

      I personally love Amazon as a model for how reviews can be used in a constructive and helpful manner. I like to take in both the good AND the bad reviews and form my own opinion. Sometimes when there are nothing but positive reviews that don't really say anything, I feel like they are meaningless.
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  • Profile picture of the author LimitlessTraffic
    The last product I reviewed was a few months ago and I had to PM the vendor asking him NOT to sell it because it wasn't ready. Not to mention the information was just one YouTube away. So, instead of appreciation, I was hit back with some pretty foul languages.. Lesson learnt!

    Never review a product that you feel suss about. It's really that sad. Honest reviews just hurts some people and they don't appreciate your help.
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    • Profile picture of the author cyberdenizen
      Originally Posted by Brent Stangel View Post

      Like create garbage "products" and then try to get people to endorse them? Like that?
      Already knew that nobody should ever do that.

      However, I learned these:

      1) How to gather reviews properly (Post a thread in the "Wanted Members Looking to Hire You" section.);

      2) Product owners should ask for reviews well ahead of time because IM'ers are busy people. (Don't ask people to review your product on the very day you launch it.); and

      3) People who don't do product reviews.

      By the way, I once wrote an unsolicited product review. I bought one of Tiffany Lambert's products and followed her instructions. Thanks to that, I was able to pay my back rent. I felt that I had to return the favor.
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    • Profile picture of the author knishida
      Originally Posted by LimitlessTraffic View Post

      The last product I reviewed was a few months ago and I had to PM the vendor asking him NOT to sell it because it wasn't ready. Not to mention the information was just one YouTube away. So, instead of appreciation, I was hit back with some pretty foul languages.. Lesson learnt!

      Never review a product that you feel suss about. It's really that sad. Honest reviews just hurts some people and they don't appreciate your help.
      Kudos to you for PMing the vendor to give feedback! I might not like negative feedback, but if my product wasn't ready for market, then that's EXACTLY the feedback I need. Sorry to hear you got bashed in return for trying to help. Such a bummer!
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  • Profile picture of the author Adie
    I just ignore PMs like this. Sometimes it's a shame that some older members are doing this crap.
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Evans
    Originally Posted by joseph7384 View Post

    Do I have nothing better to do with my time
    The establishment of this thread would certainly pose that question...
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  • Profile picture of the author Katie Rich
    Originally Posted by joseph7384 View Post

    I received a PM and I just don't get the nerve of some people.

    If you want me to do a review for you, you had better give me a weeks notice!
    I agree the notice is ridiculous, but there have been many posts here stating that a WSO with a respected Warrior review is going to attract more buyers than one reviewed by a few three post wonders.

    Looks like you are one of the former. Be flattered and just say sorry, too short notice.
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  • Profile picture of the author evakent256
    A weeks notice, wow. You must pretty important, huh?
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