Launching my E-book/Guide, Need Suggestions

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Hello Warrior's I'm new to the forum here and this is actually my first time joining a forum and asking for help, so please forgive me if I missed these questions somewhere on here, or on Google. I am currently working on a guide for a fairly popular online game, I plan to have it readily available on Clickbank within a few months however I have some questions if you guys would be so kind to help me.

If I create a guide on a game, or an existing product, do I have to list it as the "unofficial guide" or do I need to create a catchy product name like "Super Mario Bros Secrets" (I'm not doing a guide on Super Mario) or something? Is it illegal or frowned upon if I were to just list it as the "Super Mario Bros guide?" Only reason I'm asking is because I was walking through Barnes and Noble and noticed every guide for a video game by and independent author was labeled the "Unofficial guide for xxxxx game" Sounds silly, but I just want to make sure I do this correct.

Second, I have plans for a sales page, but I don't want it to look like the average run of the mill squeeze page with arrows and silly sales video's explaining why you have to have my guide. Not knocking anyone that does this, just simply asking is it possible to have a high selling product without all the over-the-top BUY THIS NOW arrows and what not?

Third, while writing my guide in Word, it just looks, let's say, like a high school project (albeit a damn good High School project.) I had plans to pay someone to convert my content into a sweet looking PDF, but is that really all that necessary? Are my standards just too high and most Clickbank E-book's look like they could be well thought out high school projects anyways?

Lastly, any other advice for me? I have been pounding the nail trying to make money online for the past 4 years, and after making a whopping $80.00 through ClickBank, I did the only sensible thing I felt I could do, and that's to quit my garbage $13.00 / hr job to start pursuing this full time, so any advice would be great!
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  • Profile picture of the author Katie Rich
    I'm not an author but can answer two points.

    1/ You do not need anyone to convert the ebook into a PDF (though it does need to be in that sort of format rather than just a word doc) You can do it yourself, it's really simple, just export it as a PDF from word and save as PDF.
    2/ Why not also sell it as a kindle ebook? I know the formatting is different and I'm sure someone here could direct you to a formatter that is free and simple to use.

    That's about the extent of my knowledge on a game guide.
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    • Profile picture of the author dfransen
      Originally Posted by Katie Rich View Post

      I'm not an author but can answer two points.

      1/ You do not need anyone to convert the ebook into a PDF (though it does need to be in that sort of format rather than just a word doc) You can do it yourself, it's really simple, just export it as a PDF from word and save as PDF.
      2/ Why not also sell it as a kindle ebook? I know the formatting is different and I'm sure someone here could direct you to a formatter that is free and simple to use.

      That's about the extent of my knowledge on a game guide.
      I do plan on making it available on the iStore as well as a Kindle E-Book, if the content is great and helpful, does it really matter that someone can tell that I created the entire thing in Word?
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      • Originally Posted by dfransen View Post

        I do plan on making it available on the iStore as well as a Kindle E-Book, if the content is great and helpful, does it really matter that someone can tell that I created the entire thing in Word?
        To quote the bright ones "Content is key."

        As long as it is in a legible format, if what you are writing is what people want to read, you will do well. Some of the most successful published works aren't marketed incredibly well, they just read even better.

        Take your time and create something that you are proud of.
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      • Profile picture of the author Katie Rich
        Originally Posted by dfransen View Post

        I do plan on making it available on the iStore as well as a Kindle E-Book, if the content is great and helpful, does it really matter that someone can tell that I created the entire thing in Word?
        I wasn't questioning how you created it, just how you present it. Kindle has a format all of it's own and a PDF file looks much more professional that a plain word doc.

        Presentation matters no matter how good the content is. I know we are told NOT to judge a book by it's cover, but that's bunkum. All books are judged that way, which is why authors spend money on attractive covers rather than just writing the title across the front of a book.
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  • Profile picture of the author youvana
    I assume the reason why "unofficial" is used is because of trademarks, my knowledge of this subject is zero because I only create my own products. However creating PDF books that look professional is easy and all you need is Openoffice or Google docs where you can create a great looking ebook and export to pdf. With regards to the sales page, it makes sense to go with what works, you might not like those pages but they exist because they convert and have been thoroughly tested.
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    • Profile picture of the author dfransen
      Originally Posted by youvana View Post

      I assume the reason why "unofficial" is used is because of trademarks, my knowledge of this subject is zero because I only create my own products. However creating PDF books that look professional is easy and all you need is Openoffice or Google docs where you can create a great looking ebook and export to pdf. With regards to the sales page, it makes sense to go with what works, you might not like those pages but they exist because they convert and have been thoroughly tested.
      Well said, I suppose if the average consumer was turned off by those sales pages, there wouldn't be so many of them. I want something that looks professional though. Am I setting my requirements higher than they need to be for a single person with next-to-nothing for a budget?

      Here's an example: Zygor Guides has a solid landing page but it doesn't seem overbearing, I guess I would be more apt to purchase a guide from this page.

      Now we look at Hayden Hawke's Secret Gold Guide sales page, it looks, kind of scammer-ish. As an IM would you rather promote the first or the second? Can I expect about the same amount of sales by replicating either or? If you are a CB product creator does it even matter? Or is the first just a better website because they have had more success and dumped thousands of dollars into creating a website like that?
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      • Profile picture of the author Ghoster
        Originally Posted by dfransen View Post

        Well said, I suppose if the average consumer was turned off by those sales pages, there wouldn't be so many of them. I want something that looks professional though. Am I setting my requirements higher than they need to be for a single person with next-to-nothing for a budget?

        Here's an example: Zygor Guides has a solid landing page but it doesn't seem overbearing, I guess I would be more apt to purchase a guide from this page.

        Now we look at Hayden Hawke's Secret Gold Guide sales page, it looks, kind of scammer-ish. As an IM would you rather promote the first or the second? Can I expect about the same amount of sales by replicating either or? If you are a CB product creator does it even matter? Or is the first just a better website because they have had more success and dumped thousands of dollars into creating a website like that?
        You could get that done on Odesk for a decent price. Of course by "decent," I mean in the xxx's.

        Note their disclaimer: This site and the products and services offered on this site are not associated, affiliated, endorsed, or sponsored by Activision | Blizzard or ZeniMax Media Inc., nor have they been reviewed, tested or certified by Activision | Blizzard or ZeniMax Media Inc..

        I don't think this would actually protect them if any of those companies decided to take action against them.

        As far as which page affiliates would promote, I can tell you that affiliates will promote anything that's selling.

        You need to be able to get your own sales before anyone will promote you. You are going to be using YouTube marketing with this, right?


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        • Profile picture of the author dfransen
          Originally Posted by Ghoster View Post

          You could get that done on Odesk for a decent price. Of course by "decent," I mean in the xxx's.

          Note their disclaimer: This site and the products and services offered on this site are not associated, affiliated, endorsed, or sponsored by Activision | Blizzard or ZeniMax Media Inc., nor have they been reviewed, tested or certified by Activision | Blizzard or ZeniMax Media Inc..

          I don't think this would actually protect them if any of those companies decided to take action against them.

          As far as which page affiliates would promote, I can tell you that affiliates will promote anything that's selling.

          You need to be able to get your own sales before anyone will promote you. You are going to be using YouTube marketing with this, right?


          Yessir, I have about 6-7 different marketing outlets I am going to break into, YouTube being one of them.
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  • Profile picture of the author garmahis
    You can hire someone on Odesk or Elance and create a well designed and polished version for all platforms - including Kindle, iBooks and PDF. It will cost you less than $100.

    Good proofreader/editor is also highly recommended. Most complains are usually from customers finding multiple grammar or logical errors.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ghoster
    You can't use trademarks and you can't use copyrighted images. This means that, per your example, having the words "Super Marios Bros." in your title is risky.

    Note that this includes images of the game itself, and Nentendo is notoriously snappy about this. They recently claimed a bunch of YouTube content as their own because the videos contained images of their games. Now they get a % of the revenue before the video creator sees any of it.

    You can't claim fair use on anything since this is a publication for profit, so you need to be very careful.

    Basically, you're risking being sued. If you are selling online, you are probably ok unless it becomes huge.

    I would definitely use "unofficial."

    It's OK to output directly from Word, but of course it's better to pay someone to create a nice looking PDF via InDesign if you can afford it. It won't necessarily help with initial sales, but it can help you build a brand and can generate repeat sales.
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    • Profile picture of the author dfransen
      Originally Posted by Ghoster View Post

      You can't use trademarks and you can't use copyrighted images. Note that is includes images of the game itself, and Nentendo is notoriously snappy about this. They recently claimed a bunch of YouTube content as their own because the videos contained images of their games. Now they get a % of the revenue before the video creator sees any of it.
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      You can't claim fair use on anything since this is a publication for profit, so you need to be very careful.

      Basically, you're risking being sued. If you are selling online, you are probably ok unless it becomes huge.

      I would definitely use "unofficial."

      It's OK to output directly from Word, but of course it's better to pay someone to create a nice looking PDF via InDesign if you can afford it. It won't necessarily help with initial sales, but it can help you build a brand and can generate repeat sales.
      My fear is being sued, kind of sucks because I want to create a product that is informative and ultimately helps the game, but I also want to get paid for it. Word has it that video game companies don't care as much since it gets the word out about the video game, but I'm looking to avoid a situation where they come after me just because I make a significant profit off of it, after all theres youtube videos, gaming websites, all of which use content from games and pictures from games, in order to even stand a chance, it seems I almost have to.
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  • Profile picture of the author Marco Moeschter
    You don't have to have a sales page with all the hype if you can tell a good story. A story which gets the attention of your readers and which makes them curious to know more about it. If you can do that then all the hype isn't necessary.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ghoster
    It is true that video game publishers like the exposure that they get from Let's Plays and guides. On the other hand, they can excercise their rights at any time. It's a risk. Bummer, I know.

    Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think they would send you a cease & desist before actually going after you. Unless you make millions from it you are probably small fry to them.
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    • Profile picture of the author dfransen
      Originally Posted by Ghoster View Post

      It is true that video game publishers like the exposure that they get from Let's Plays and guides. On the other hand, they can excercise their rights at any time. It's a risk. Bummer, I know.

      Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think they would send you a cease & desist before actually going after you. Unless you make millions from it you are probably small fry to them.
      I was also wondering the same, maybe it depends how much money the company can get out of it Last thing I want to do is just promote the heck out of my guide and if somehow, someway it hits it big in my niche, I don't want to be looking over my back, worrying about being sued when I should be enjoying my hard work.
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  • Profile picture of the author webcosmo
    Just download Calibre, you can easily convert it to epub , mobi or whatever e-book mobile format you need. No need to pay anyone.
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  • Profile picture of the author knishida
    I'm guessing that this target market knows what they want and don't have to be overly sold on it. I would just focus on identifying the problems your book will solve. As long as you don't price it too high, I imagine it will be a no brainer sale. Different from the IM market, I think.

    The example you cite, Zygor, is excellent at tapping into the frustrations and desires of the average gamer:
    * Never get lost again
    * Don't think. Just play.
    * Become an unstoppable leveling machine, etc

    Kim
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  • Profile picture of the author LimitlessTraffic
    Before I have any input, I would like to mention that I have not yet tapped into the gaming niche.

    But I imagine that it is very similar to any other niches out there. First thing first, you need to know your target audience.

    Yes, there are many overly hypey sales pages out there that works BUT needless to say, it doesn't work for all niches. It really depends on your audience and how they interpret what you have to offer. The main purpose is to point out their pain and offer them a solution (your guide).

    Now, as for the presentation for your eBook. May I suggest you invest in a little more $$ for good looking designs and graphics. Although the info you give might have really good content but you want to position yourself as a professional - an authority, straight off the bat. I can't stress enough how important it is, quality always trumps. Of course, I wouldn't go overboard with it but it's a lot better than just plain ol' text.

    Lastly, make sure you speak your audience's language. Since you play the game yourself, you probably won't have much to worry but it really helps build your positioning and authority if you write it the common lingo. Help your audience understand your guide easier and it also makes it really easy to read.

    Hope that helps
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  • Profile picture of the author mrclean0325
    Some points to bring up.

    1. Whether names, images, and even original works using content owned by someone else; using them without express permission or paying licensing fee will get you sued. Like Getty Images, they will just send you a bill for what they feel is fair fees. This can reach high 6 figures depending on the "used" contents amount and length of time publicized. It is a pain, but you really should at least get permission or pay the licensing fees or run the risk of getting a nice letter saying you owe them. Remember, they own the game, the name, all the images, and content and using them without their permission is risky any way you slice it. I know too many people who have been slammed with suits like this and they have no defense - they stole the property and had to pay the piper.

    2. The gaming niche is SUPER competitive and have you looked to see if there is similar works to what you are planning already online for free? Game guides are pretty much a dime a dozen and few games have the longevity to keep people interested to actually buy something. Most game guides are bought when they buy the game. Unless it is a MMO, then it has to be very different than the hundred other "gold guides" out there. It needs to be flashier and just better than others out there.

    3. The trick in games (and most other markets to make money without spending a fortune) is to be "known" to your market. Even using a pen name or gamer handle. Gamers are a sharp and untrusting bunch. If you already have a presence, in a large community you will have a start. If you are unknown - it is a tough row to hoe. It can be overcome with spending a lot on publicizing the book, but it sounds like you won't have those funds available.

    4. I had to read your last paragraph a few times to make sure I read it right. You have definitely put yourself in a bad position. I would have at least wait to quit the job until I had a solid, steady income coming in. Unless you have a lot of savings to fall back on, it is not fun. I have done the same before and found out the hard way. Though you can pay your Visa with your Mastercard...if you have a limit left.
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    • Profile picture of the author dfransen
      Originally Posted by mrclean0325 View Post

      Some points to bring up.

      1. Whether names, images, and even original works using content owned by someone else; using them without express permission or paying licensing fee will get you sued. Like Getty Images, they will just send you a bill for what they feel is fair fees. This can reach high 6 figures depending on the "used" contents amount and length of time publicized. It is a pain, but you really should at least get permission or pay the licensing fees or run the risk of getting a nice letter saying you owe them. Remember, they own the game, the name, all the images, and content and using them without their permission is risky any way you slice it. I know too many people who have been slammed with suits like this and they have no defense - they stole the property and had to pay the piper.

      2. The gaming niche is SUPER competitive and have you looked to see if there is similar works to what you are planning already online for free? Game guides are pretty much a dime a dozen and few games have the longevity to keep people interested to actually buy something. Most game guides are bought when they buy the game. Unless it is a MMO, then it has to be very different than the hundred other "gold guides" out there. It needs to be flashier and just better than others out there.

      3. The trick in games (and most other markets to make money without spending a fortune) is to be "known" to your market. Even using a pen name or gamer handle. Gamers are a sharp and untrusting bunch. If you already have a presence, in a large community you will have a start. If you are unknown - it is a tough row to hoe. It can be overcome with spending a lot on publicizing the book, but it sounds like you won't have those funds available.

      4. I had to read your last paragraph a few times to make sure I read it right. You have definitely put yourself in a bad position. I would have at least wait to quit the job until I had a solid, steady income coming in. Unless you have a lot of savings to fall back on, it is not fun. I have done the same before and found out the hard way. Though you can pay your Visa with your Mastercard...if you have a limit left.
      I suppose maybe a lawyer may be my best option to consult for this one, if it ever came to that. If they enforced something like that, they would also have to enforce it across the board for every Youtube video out there that has there video game in it, seems counter-productive from a gaming company.
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  • Profile picture of the author mrclean0325
    You are also assuming they have not gotten permission or paid a licensing fee. You are also assuming the game companies won't take action against people who use their content without licensing or permission.

    Even with the "unofficial" guides, if you look very carefully at the fine print at the front of the book (some have it at the end) will be something like, "Photos, content, blah, and blah used with permission from XXX" or "licensed by XXX" or both for multiple parties. Since there are many parts to a game, and many "owners" of the content, it sometimes gets confusing who owns what.

    Companies are very funny about someone they don't know putting their name on something. Knowing the difference between a copyright and a trademark is helpful also.

    The one thing most should do, and don't, is consult a lawyer to make sure they don't get sued.

    Here are some links that may help show you the landscape a bit:

    'I almost got sued for knitting a Firefly hat': The legal risks of pop-culture fan art | TechHive

    $8k in Image Copyright Infringement Penalties: Bloggers, Beware!

    The Messy World of Fan Art and Copyright - Plagiarism Today

    Many in IM play it fast and loose and hope they don't get caught. It is all fun and games until someone loses their house and everything they own.
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