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If there's any piece of advice I can give anyone starting out, it would be to get a coach.

Just be sure to do your research to know the person you'll be working with is legit and know's their stuff.

All the best.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nightengale
    This is great advice. I have a business coach and learned SO MUCH from her!

    However, I don't agree that you need to hire a business coach if you're just starting out.

    Most Warriors complain of not having any money and wanting to use completely free methods to build a business. This is a toxic mindset that keeps them stuck. (You can't expect to build an actual business using completely free methods, much less a PROFITABLE business.)

    But that's another story...

    One on one coaching is typically very expensive. It's usually more cost effective to join a group coaching program. I've done both.

    When starting out, it's usually much less expensive to purchase some sort of information product or training program with some coaching attached to it. This usually takes the form of Q&A calls or webinars.

    However, there are solutions out there in all price ranges. So keep your eyes peeled. And if you can find a good program with some type of coaching attached to it, go for it! Being able to ask questions and get feedback is so valuable!

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    • Profile picture of the author MaxForKing
      Originally Posted by Nightengale View Post

      One on one coaching is typically very expensive. It's usually more cost effective to join a group coaching program.
      I feel that's the best when starting out
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    • Profile picture of the author Marco Moeschter
      Originally Posted by Nightengale View Post

      But that's another story...

      One on one coaching is typically very expensive. It's usually more cost effective to join a group coaching program. I've done both.

      I agree with you on that point! On on one can be expensive therefore can Mastermind groups be a really good and less expensive alternative. I'm a member of such a awesome group which is helping everybody in there a lot. It's almost like a one on one coaching.
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      • Profile picture of the author Q-Writers
        Can you be kind enough to share more about your group and how anyone else can be a part of such a group?
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    • Profile picture of the author Mrdiehard
      Coaches will help for sure, however there should be a stablish relationship already if you want it to work.

      Here's what you gotta do when starting out.
      Know how to host a website, without a website, no business.
      Know how to get traffic to that website (qualified traffic)
      know Your outcome for that website? is it to instruct, to sell, to generate good will, to get leads.
      develop a relationship with your audience? by asking them how you can help....

      But before you start that...
      know your purpose first...
      know your audience..

      These two will make your other efforts much more focus, then just driving traffic and hoping people will buy.
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  • Profile picture of the author LarryHaywood
    You can actually learn a lot by networking on social media sites and connecting with people more successful than what you may be starting out. I know I have personally learned a lot just by connecting with others and talking to them. Many experienced marketers will give you guidance and tips for free. And I've also seen plenty of people complain about high priced coaching programs that for whatever reason failed to deliver. Of course, no coach can guarantee your success as it's really up to the person and what they do with the information they learn.
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      Coaching is only going to help you when you have some kind of plan or at least idea of what it is you want to do.

      If you get a coach and he asks you, what is it you're trying to do and your response is "I want to make money online" any coach worth his salt will tell you he can't help you.

      I want to make money online is useless. There are a gazillion ways to do it and unless you at least have some idea of how you want to go about it, no coach can help you.

      So BEFORE you even think about getting a coach, write down some sort of goal that is more specific than "I want to make money online." The more specific you are, the better the coach will be able to help you.

      Even something like "I want to get into niche marketing" will at least give the coach a starting point. From there, he can teach you how to research niches to tell if they are viable or not. Then, once you've found one, he can walk you through the process of product creation and/or product choice (if you want to go the affiliate route) and how to put all the pieces together to form an actual business.

      But "I want to make money online" will leave both you and the coach frustrated because there is nothing there to work with.

      My 2 cents for whatever they're worth.
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      • Profile picture of the author ganeshrajn
        Coaching programs are very expensive. Most of them charge you around 500$ and way up plus another 500$ to set up n implement a method. But their experience counts, it will give you a jump start. How many people can afford it if they are already struggling to make some cash thru IM?
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      • Profile picture of the author MaxForKing
        True that.
        Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

        Coaching is only going to help you when you have some kind of plan or at least idea of what it is you want to do.
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  • Profile picture of the author mw13
    I have been exploring the coaching route, but that's just as complicated as trying to figure out what to start with in IM. There are so many coaches out there and most I have found are program based versus just 1 on 1 access to someone will to help mentor. I have a plan to execute I just need some opinion on things. Any suggestions on coaches please share.
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    • Profile picture of the author MaxForKing
      Originally Posted by mw13 View Post

      Any suggestions on coaches please share.
      If you look at Brent's imcoachdirectory.com then you might find a good coach
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      • Profile picture of the author John Taylor
        Originally Posted by MaxForKing View Post

        If you look at Brent's imcoachdirectory.com then you might find a good coach
        All that proves is that someone has paid $297 to be listed in the directory.

        To "find a good coach" you must do the research not just look up entries
        on a paid directory.

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  • Profile picture of the author tristatemedia
    if you add all the wso's and money you will spend on this forum. it is alot cheaper..............alot cheaper to get a coach.
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    as far as learning from free info, i do not trust anything that is free
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  • Profile picture of the author Romina82
    Personally as a beginner I agree that group coaching helps to keep you not only on track, but also helps you build a mindset of accountability, which is what keeps you going sometimes, especially when setbacks occur.

    Before even beginning though it's important to have a clear goal and target in mind of what you want to do and where you want to end up at the end of your journey. Unless you specify those, you cannot plan your journey to reach your success.
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  • Profile picture of the author talfighel
    There are many great coaches online but the problem is not them. The problem is with the students.

    One of my mentors, which I found through this forum back in 2006, told me the importance of this:

    It takes money to make money.

    Most students and newbies fail because they don't want to spend any money and want everything for free.
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  • Profile picture of the author gcbmark20
    Having a coach can help you to avoid all the pitfalls that come with running
    an online business and using a business model that you are working with.

    Time is just as important as money and if a coach can help to get you to a stage
    where you are ready to take things to the next level and you are now capable of
    working the business on your own then that is money well spent indeed.

    I've had customers come back to me after buying my trainings many weeks
    or even months afterwards and ask me for coaching because they have jumped
    from product or method to the next and have become overwhelmed by all
    the information they have in their heads.

    Having a coach there to PUSH you and make you responsible for taking your
    business to where it needs to go is just as important as the main business
    model or strategy itself.
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  • Originally Posted by MaxForKing View Post

    If there's any piece of advice I can give anyone starting out, it would be to get a coach.

    Just be sure to do your research to know the person you'll be working with is legit and know's their stuff.

    All the best.
    That is great advice but 99% will rather go bust then pay for coaching and that is the truth!
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  • Profile picture of the author ptcrefko
    A good Coach/Mentor never promote/Market hemselves. They want to be low profiled. My honest opinion.
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  • To be honest having a coach or not it is really all about your core belief and mindset.

    A coach cannot do the learning and doing for you.

    I advice strongly to stay away from coaches unless you are a 110% ready to stay up late night to build your list, push through frustrations when you have invested lots money in your business and have no returns, learn skills you are not comfortable with, talking with people, helping others, writing blog posts, creating products and not get disappointed from people who don't support your vision.

    A coach is only there to motivate you, show you what worked for them and keep you away from their past mistakes.
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  • Profile picture of the author PPC-Coach
    Lots of opinions on here. Some are the typical responses and it really depends if you're for or against coaches. Some bad apples give the good ones a bad name. Online it's tough to find a good one because there's so much hype!

    The old boys club is very powerful online and if you're not with them or against them, you're in big big trouble.

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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    The title of this thread should have been:

    "You Need PAID Coaching. Not FREE Coaching"
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  • Profile picture of the author jgant
    Make sure your coach actually makes money online in a method similar to your business model.

    If all they do is make money in the MMO niche and you're in something totally different, avoid them. I don't think a coach needs to be in the same niche because who would want to coach a competitor, but at least look for someone who has succeeded in a non-MMO niche using a similar model to your plan.

    If you're kicking tires at this point, dropping a few grand on a coach to find out if their model is something you want to do is very risky. I've done that to the tune of thousands. Once you know with certainty how you wish to go about your online biz, find someone who has experience in the same arena, including generating revenue and traffic with the same model.

    That said, I also hired a coach for several consulting sessions and it was the foundation to generating a lot of money - methods I continue using. When I hired him, I had a reasonable plan in place and he tweaked what I was doing which was a huge help.

    Ensure your coach actually makes the amount of money you would love to earn using the methods they teach (i.e. not their coaching revenue). I've nearly hired people who talk a good talk and then find out they make very little money.

    On the flip side, I hired a guy who was really cool - he provided a ton of evidence that he was making bank with a similar model to me... and he stepped me in the right direction.

    I also one time hired a guy who did group coaching. It was expensive and a total waste of time. I had to sit 2 to 4 hours on a conference call as he assisted people. One-on-one is best because it saves you time and you get the attention you need with specific suggestions.

    If I were to hire a coach again, I'd seek out someone who doesn't make coaching their business. Instead, they run a business similar to what I do. I'd ask to schedule a few 1 hour Skype consultations and be willing to pay a high hourly rate. These people don't make their livelihood coaching and don't waste your time with groups. However, if their successful, expect to pay a lot per hour. The upside is it should only take a few sessions on an as-needed basis to get you going in the right direction.
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  • Profile picture of the author David Mcalorum
    One of the biggest things I found from getting coaching
    was being held accountable. After I had that in place,
    everything else just clicked and I started to see massive
    success.

    Its also certainly more interactive than just a pdf or video.
    Also, the coach can offer certain other incentives such
    as access to his own personal network of affiliates, he
    can mail his own list for you and he can also help edit
    your current marketing campaigns.

    You would need to do the proper research on your coach
    of course and make sure they are credible.
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