Front End - Back End Offers

by alesh
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Hi, I have a newbie question, what's the sense of make a funnel with front end and back end offers?

With front end you know who can pay for a product, it's only this?

Thanks





#back #end #front #offers
  • Profile picture of the author Carl Donovan
    Because trying to sell a big ticket product to a cold prospect is rough. But if they've already seen the value in what you offer (and even better if they've paid for it and liked it), it gets exponentially easier.
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  • Profile picture of the author beasty513
    You are supposed to get them warmed up to your intial offer
    then, they go through your funnel and climb up the value ladder for more big ticket items.

    The front-end offer should be no more than $10.

    I usually do around $7-$9 with the prouduct value of $20.

    The purpose is to sift through the traffic and seperate the buyes
    from the rest of the pack.

    Much success.
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    • Profile picture of the author alesh
      Front End offer if I have a site can be the value of articles in the site?

      Originally Posted by beasty513 View Post

      The purpose is to sift through the traffic and seperate the buyes
      from the rest of the pack.
      In this sense, it can be for a newsletter problem? Too many subscribers to send offers?
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      • Profile picture of the author Carl Donovan
        Originally Posted by alesh View Post

        Front End offer if I have a site can be the value of articles in the site?
        No. An offer is action. "Enter your email to get this free report". Getting them to the site to find the value is the widest part of the funnel.
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        • Profile picture of the author alesh
          But if you offer the front end of example 27$ to all subscribed users is worse? Progression FE 7$ and BE 27$ make always better results?
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    • Profile picture of the author Sreeni
      yes. Front end should always be a low ticket offer.
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  • Profile picture of the author valmillercorl
    You have to create a successul sales funnel with both FE and BE offers to make money in this business. Do a search here on WF for Kenster - that guy knows what he's talkin' about.

    Good luck!
    Valarie
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  • Profile picture of the author Carl Donovan
    There are no hard and fast rules here. What you offer depends on what your site visitors are looking for. That's why it's best to start with a solid plan and test different options.
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  • Profile picture of the author AuthorityBuilder
    Originally Posted by alesh View Post

    Hi, I have a newbie question, what's the sense of make a funnel with front end and back end offers?

    With front end you know who can pay for a product, it's only this?

    Thanks





    Front end offer is to build a list of potential customers who may have the possibility to buy your back end products. Generally, front end product prices are low, without much profit, in the range of $5 to $7, just to keep up the recurring costs of maintaining the system. Once you have them on your list, you can promote your backend products to them that cost higher and that's where your real business lies.
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  • Profile picture of the author gcbmark20
    Hi,

    1. Big Ticket F.E. offers = MORE TRAFFIC AND LEADS REQUIRED.

    2. Low Ticket F.E. offers = LESS TRAFFIC REQUIRED TO MAKE A SALE.

    There is no right or wrong way to do it just getting your conversions to
    perform the best they can is what I call........"The Holy Grail" of I.M.

    Once you have a HIGH performing funnel/offer that converts well enough
    for you to be able to pay for traffic you then have the option of SCALING UP
    your numbers and directing HUGE amounts of leads and traffic into your set up.

    Yes if you can get your F.E. conversions working then of course it's up to
    you to then work on that back end to increase revenues for your business and
    make as many repeat sales as you can.

    But of course if you're selling BIG Ticket offers then you won't need to make
    as many sales anyway.

    Even then you'll never EXHAUST people's ability to BUY!

    People will always BUY stuff no matter what it is or what it does.

    YOU have to position yourself in front of them and give them what they're
    already looking for.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sarevok
    Gavin definitely knows his stuff about funnels - listen to his words...

    I have to admit that I'm addicted to LOW ticket offers... I buy a lot of solo ads and these work the best for solos...

    And... I love to make the front end DIRT cheap... Like $7-$27...

    Make the second upsell a little higher... And the third upsell REALLY higher...



    As a solo junkie, I love funnels like this:

    $9 => $15 => Something bigger.

    But remember, the only way you'll ever be able to test is by running your OWN numbers.

    My advice? Start a tiny front end, and test everything past that... Because there are so many variables that will determine the "Best" funnel pricing... (Obviously, your FRONT END product is the most important, and is the "Welcome Matt" of your funnel, so make sure it's a ridiculously good deal)... Everything past that is gravy.

    Also look at McDonalds. Often times they'll actually LOSE MONEY selling $.79 cheeseburgers, because they know most people will buy large sodas, fries, and an extra value meal - that's where the profit comes from.



    Stay cool
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  • Profile picture of the author alesh
    Thanks!

    Another question is to evalutate the effective difference between FE product and BE product.

    Do you have a real example, a 7$ FE product if it's already so important, it should have a quality like a BE 27$ product?

    Do you ever buy a BE product that show this "proportion" between FE and BE product?
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  • Profile picture of the author dreamhobbiz
    what sort of backend offers do you recommend? if we create a membership site, what type is the best?
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