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Hello.

I am new to the IM world and have been doing a ton of research for the last couple of weeks as well as getting familiar with wordpress, optimizepress, video creation, editing art, etc etc. I have a question for people with experience that maybe can spark a light in my brain.

I read over and over people saying to get into a field you are passionate about and really enjoy. Well I have worked with computers for over 14 years ( I am 29 years old ) and currently a network engineer. I have also done security, mostly offensive pentesting. I worked as a tech for 5 years also so very up to date on software and tricks to improve cpu performance etc..

From what I have seen on click bank and other affiliate marketing it doesn't look like the software and cpu trouble-shooting field is very popular to market. Can anyone help me with some idea's that I can possibly turn this into a profitable niche. Most of the other niches I see that seem to do well is the typical weight loss, fitness etc.

Any help would be great!! thank you
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  • Profile picture of the author ClickBank
    Hi GrindingHard:

    Have you considered the Background Investigations niche for Software & Services? Your background and the product mix for this category may be a good match.

    You can find a portfolio of vendors offering these services in the ClickBank marketplace under Software & Services : Background Investigations.

    ClickBank
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  • I completely disagree with those saying you should get into a field you're passionate about. If you want to do everything yourself, than yes, passion is important, but hey!... you can hire someone with passion about your niche...

    Learn to outsource, and you will enjoy making money in any niche.

    Anyway, since you know a lot about computers and like the subject, it would be a great idea for you to build an amazon review site focussed on CPU's/video cards and that kinda stuff. That are high priced items that comes with nice commissions.

    People always lookup reviews before buying these things. Most of the time people just copy the product name like: "Intel HD ZR2600TURBO Blue" and add "review" to it in google. Those keywords are most of the time, incredibly easy to rank for. Also because there are new products released everyday, it will never get saturated.

    You can find plenty of info about building amazon sites here on WF.

    Hope this helped you!
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  • Profile picture of the author Greg Berry
    Take the exact skills and benefits that your company derives from your labor and market it to other companies in the exact same field for less money.

    "Hey,

    I am ___ and I do ____ for my current company, _____.

    I see that you can use this service because of ________.

    Normal industry rates are $50,000 per year.

    I can solve this issue for you for $1500.

    Would you be willing to chat?

    Boom! You have your first business.

    Once you figure out your sweet spot, create an automated product either teaching others how to freelance in this field or by teaching companies how to protect against whatever it is that you're protecting against. Or both.

    Dive in head first and learn while getting paid.

    Searching clickbank and the warrior forum is like going to a first year law school class asking the students how to win a case vs. Google. They'll all have opinions but none of them will get you any closer to winning the case.

    Do what you know best and build from the foundation already laid.
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    • Profile picture of the author The Niche Man
      Good points to think about. But I see your kinda making a mistake I see a lot of new and even older marketers make.

      They look for a product first and then try to find people in need. When you'll get better results if you look for people with an unfilled, under-served or overlooked need. Then offer a solution based on your skills.

      Consider that too in your action plans
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      • Profile picture of the author megamind22
        Originally Posted by The Niche Man View Post

        Good points to think about. But I see your kinda making a mistake I see a lot of new and even older marketers make.

        They look for a product first and then try to find people in need. When you'll get better results if you look for people with an unfilled, under-served or overlooked need. Then offer a solution based on your skills.

        Consider that too in your action plans
        You couldn't have said it better "The Niche Man"

        Find a problem or an audience in desperate need and give them the solution,

        Plain and simple cause your passion would only limit you to your goal my friend.

        Hope that helps
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  • Profile picture of the author kurtbai
    with your professional background you can create a blog and write about what you know, do some keyword research and see what people are searching for in your area of expertise, target those with big search volume and less competition, when traffic comes, just monetize your blog with Adsense.

    Sorry if I'm off topic but it seems to me this is the best way to make money from your passion and knowledge.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    Almost any small, obscure niche is profitable. I did say almost. It all has to deal with your marketing... your overall marketing plan. Get a good one. I'm MCP certified, A+, Network+, and CCNA certified. There's money in this niche cuz..
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  • Profile picture of the author GrindingHard
    Thank you all for the advice. I guess it is just taking that venture off into different new things which confuses me. Like for example.. I see mostly people talking about click bank or affiliate marketing so since I am new I am just looking at things in the perspective of I need to sell someone else's product. Then once I see not to many products doing well in that niche I figure it is dry. Then since I am new I see some people say stay away from trying to sell very high priced items since it is harder and can be very difficult to sell for a beginner. I guess I have some thinking to do heh. I am not really looking for a lazy way out either, I sped about 3 hours at work working on this and on he weekends about 9 at night when everyone is sleep. So overall I spend probably 32 hours a week on learning everything. This includes programs for SEO, research, optimize press, niche research, etc. So I guess my final question is successful internet marketers are doing a lot more then click bank or CPA??
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  • Profile picture of the author ViceHood
    Go with something you enjoy or have an interest in. It'll seem like less 'work' in the long run. Good Luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author stevenjacobs
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    You can sell lots of stuff on computer security. You just need to market it right.
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    • Profile picture of the author GrindingHard
      Originally Posted by stevenjacobs View Post

      You can sell lots of stuff on computer security. You just need to market it right.
      Do you know any sites that sell security programs? besides click banks section lol
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  • Profile picture of the author pnglifesolutions
    it's not necessary to stick with your passion. If your objective is to make money from it, go with the money. there's a reason why markets such as health and fitness are so popular.

    I recommend reverse-engineer approach in your niche research. Look for existing products, check out their sales page, pick out the lingo (keywords) and then study the competition.
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    Hi Stuart..Love your website!!! Keep up the great work....
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    Thanks. What post(s) did you like?
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    • Profile picture of the author The Niche Man
      Good niche site to get your juices flowing.
      I call it the ...
      "No More Excuses for Not Finding a Niche Site."
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      • Profile picture of the author Steve B
        One of the reasons so many people struggle to find a business topic to focus on is the fact that they think you "pick a niche" like you would pick an item off the menu at a restaurant. Doing so leaves you with only a broad market that you've chosen to go into but no clue as to how you can be a successful seller in that market.

        I know I have given this advice before, but a true niche is not "weight loss" or "travel" or "fitness." Those are broad markets. There is a difference between those and a niche.

        Niches are voids in a market that you fill with your own product or service. You create a niche when you find an unmet need or problem that you can solve. Do you see the difference? Niches are not markets.

        A niche is a place in a market where you position your business. You create or discover this niche through market research by identifying current demand.

        The key is to get specific and drill down into a market so that you can meet and offer solutions for specifically defined problems.

        When people go online to solve a problem they don't search for "fitness" or "travel." Using the travel example, they are looking for specific things like "discount cruise to the Bahamas" or "top attractions in Branson, Missouri" . . . long tail phrases about particular solutions they want to find.

        So it all begins with finding demand . . . what you are going to offer to meet that demand comes after you have identified specifically what your audience is looking for.

        I hope this will help someone understand that you don't "pick a niche" in the usual sense of the word. You find a demand and then sell into it with your product or affiliate offer.

        The very best to you,

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        • Profile picture of the author kilgore
          Originally Posted by The Niche Man View Post

          you'll get better results if you look for people with an unfilled, under-served or overlooked need. Then offer a solution based on your skills.
          Originally Posted by Steve B View Post

          You create a niche when you find an unmet need or problem that you can solve. Do you see the difference? Niches are not markets.

          A niche is a place in a market where you position your business. You create or discover this niche through market research by identifying current demand.
          I think you two nailed one of the big reasons so many people seem to be struggling here. You don't succeed because you choose niche X, use software Y, and market through affiliate program Z. You succeed because you're meeting the needs of your customers -- and you're meeting these needs better than anybody else.

          So the question isn't really what niche should I enter, but where am I in the best position to add marketable and monetizable value?
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          • Profile picture of the author The Niche Man
            Originally Posted by kilgore View Post

            I think you two nailed one of the big reasons so many people seem to be struggling here. You don't succeed because you choose niche X, use software Y, and market through affiliate program Z. You succeed because you're meeting the needs of your customers -- and you're meeting these needs better than anybody else.

            So the question isn't really what niche should I enter, but where am I in the best position to add marketable and monetizable value?
            I'd guess about one in 100 get what you just said. And even less actually focus their efforts toward finding the answer. If they did they'd meet fair less roadblocks and have far less frustration.
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  • Profile picture of the author mw13
    Piggy backing on the OP question . . . can one monetize traffic where there really aren't a lot destinations for a specific niche with out having a good product/service in mind?

    For example I found a very specific niche that gets 175k searches a month but there aren't really that many sites out there about the topic to the point page 2 on google reflects very small sites in general. So I know people are searching this area but in terms of monetizing there aren't a bunch of products or services I could deliver that are that specific to this group.
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    • Profile picture of the author Steve B
      mw13,

      What you're describing is a goldmine ("there aren't really that many sites out there about the topic") . . . lots of searches and few sites in response to the searches.

      Now what you need to determine is
      1. Why aren't there more sites meeting the demand? (Could be that this isn't a money niche - maybe the demand is from those without money, like the poor, or possibly those who are serial freebie seekers.)
      2. What specific problems or desires is this audience looking for? (You could do some quick targeted paid advertising to get your answers)
      3. Why aren't there more products/services being sold into this market?
      4. What would it take for me to create, license, or outsource a product of my own to meet the demand that is here?
      All these questions are answered with market research. Your research doesn't have to be fancy, long and drawn out, or especially scholarly. But if you don't do it you'll have no clue where the potential profit in this niche lies and how you can access it.

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      • Profile picture of the author mw13
        Thanks Steve B. You post a lot of helpful stuff for us newbies? Are you avail for mentoring?
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  • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
    You don't necessarily need Clickbank or any affiliate network. Not at first, anyway.

    Think back over the years since you've been dealing with computers. What kind of problems/issues/concerns, etc., do average people have? Take a few days to think about it. Carry a mini recorder or note pad with you and jot down the ideas as they come. There's gotta be a ton of stuff.

    Computer maintenance. How to do certain things work with certain operating systems. Identify a needy demographic and help them. Seniors need help with almost everything at first. Seasoned users want to go to the next level, etc.

    Business is simple. Find people that truly need something and can afford to pay for it and then give them that something.

    Look at the title of this thread. Do you know how often this topic comes up? It comes up ALL THE TIME. And there's only one or two people on this forum serving this market, which is the, "what the hell should I sell?" market. And the answer IS NOT, start by identifying a bunch of keywords, etc... That's putting the cart before the horse.

    There are hundreds of under-served markets out there. Just pay attention to what people are looking for.
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  • Profile picture of the author Omarkenawy
    In terms of finding hot and profitable niche ideas, I usually go to Clickbank and Amazon. On occasion, I will also use Google to review possible affiliate networks in greater depth.
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  • Profile picture of the author Assignmentwriter
    Use keywords tools to get niche ideas read this post The Definitive Guide to Keyword Research
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  • Profile picture of the author AuthorityBuilder
    Originally Posted by GrindingHard View Post

    Hello.

    I am new to the IM world and have been doing a ton of research for the last couple of weeks as well as getting familiar with wordpress, optimizepress, video creation, editing art, etc etc. I have a question for people with experience that maybe can spark a light in my brain.

    I read over and over people saying to get into a field you are passionate about and really enjoy. Well I have worked with computers for over 14 years ( I am 29 years old ) and currently a network engineer. I have also done security, mostly offensive pentesting. I worked as a tech for 5 years also so very up to date on software and tricks to improve cpu performance etc..

    From what I have seen on click bank and other affiliate marketing it doesn't look like the software and cpu trouble-shooting field is very popular to market. Can anyone help me with some idea's that I can possibly turn this into a profitable niche. Most of the other niches I see that seem to do well is the typical weight loss, fitness etc.

    Any help would be great!! thank you
    Weight Loss and Fitness niches in general have become saturated. Software and specially CPU troubleshooting is good niche, especially if you have interest in the niche. Monetizing options are great as you can create free and Premium tutorials on CPU troubleshooting and earn passively.
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  • Profile picture of the author DavidAllenNeron
    You're absolutely right, the Health / Fitness niche is huge, and if you have a bit of money to play around with you can definitely tap into it.

    -Find something that seems to be popular at the moment.
    -Find a popular mainstream publication that also currently mentions it, like a magazine or a book.
    -Use their topics / headlines to base your "Freebie" after, get someone to make the freebie (outsourced to freelancer.com or something similar or even the WarriorForum)
    -Outsource (or create) your "funnel" lead capture / squeeze page to give away said freebie (that actually helps your niche market)
    -Outsource creation of eBook, Video Series, or some kind of substantial product you can sell on the back end when someone joins your list via your freebie giveaway.
    -Make another 2-3 options and split test, see which performs better)
    -Find affiliate offers that may convert better
    -Use facebook advertising or some sort of paid advertising to drive traffic to your squeeze page... Maybe even try solo ads, safe-swap.com is pretty good.
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