Aweber Help - Trying To Stop Double Opt In

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Ok I need some help because I am really confused here. I was reading it is better to have single opt in for your squeeze page so that's what I tried to do.

When I log in to my aweber account and I go to:

List Options > List Settings >Require Opt In Web Forms I have it turned to off.

I went back to my squeeze page, entered my email, and I got taken to the custom URL that I put in, great. Then I looked at subscriber list and saw my email but says "Conformation Pending" which I thought I turned off. Sure enough I got an email asking me to opt in?

Am misunderstanding something here? I thought that is exactly what I turned off.
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  • Profile picture of the author Teravel
    When I log in to my aweber account and I go to:

    List Options > List Settings >Require Opt In Web Forms I have it turned to off.
    I know it's silly... But, did you click Save Form at the bottom after clicking the Off button?

    Also, did you wait 5-10 minutes before checking your form. Sometimes it takes a few minutes for things to change over.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Antoniazzi
    Yeah I did. I guess I'm just trying to figure out how do I get this to happen:

    1. Person signs up on squeeze page with their email
    2. They are taken directly to the offer
    3. My first follow up message sends

    And then thats it, is that possible?
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  • Profile picture of the author joseph7384
    Once you select double opt-in, you cannot change to single opt-in.
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    • Profile picture of the author Teravel
      Originally Posted by joseph7384 View Post

      Once you select double opt-in, you cannot change to single opt-in.
      This is just nonsense. Aweber has no such rule. Not only do they not have that rule, they start all campaigns as Double Opt-In...

      Here's how you change from Double to Single Opt-In...

      1. Log In at Aweber
      2. Click the List Options tab, then List Settings
      3. Click Confirmed Opt-Ins
      4. Scroll down and click the ON|OFF button till the Off Box is RED
      5. Click Save Settings at the bottom of the page.
      6. Wait 5-10 minutes before testing.
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      • Profile picture of the author joseph7384
        Originally Posted by Teravel View Post

        This is just nonsense. Aweber has no such rule. Not only do they not have that rule, they start all campaigns as Double Opt-In...

        You are dead wrong! you cannot change a double optin list back to a single optin list once that list has it's first subscriber.

        Of course if you create a new list you can choose the single opt-in.
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        • Profile picture of the author nicheblogger75
          Originally Posted by joseph7384 View Post

          You are dead wrong! you cannot change a double optin list back to a single optin list once that list has it's first subscriber.

          Of course if you create a new list you can choose the single opt-in.
          That's simply not true. I have switched double opt-in lists to single opt-in many times, even after they have several subscribers.

          However, when testing I have experienced the same problem as the OP. I have found that it can take several minutes to several hours for the change to take effect.
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          • Profile picture of the author tigertale
            I can see on Other People's screen shots exactly where the ON/OFF Button is.

            But there is no ON/OFF button in the same location in my "Confirmed Opt-In" settings page.
            I tried three browsers.

            Any suggestions????
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            • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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              Originally Posted by tigertale View Post

              I can see on Other People's screen shots exactly where the ON/OFF Button is.

              But there is no ON/OFF button in the same location in my "Confirmed Opt-In" settings page.
              I tried three browsers.

              Any suggestions????
              Unfortunately this thread, just like most forum threads on this subject, includes some misinformation and some missing-the-point among the responses.

              The reality is that you need to address your concerns to Aweber's support team, rather than asking Warriors for our opinions. As you can see from the above, what tends to happen when you do that, about this kind of issue, is that people tend to reply on the mistaken assumption that their own experience of the matter being asked about is also necessarily going to apply to everyone else, too.

              Some Aweber customers can switch freely from opt-in confirmation to single opt-in; others can't because that choice isn't available to them at account-level, so it doesn't appear as a selectable option at list-level. There are actually several different possible reasons for this, but this isn't a very good or appropriate place to discuss or explain them, and it probably isn't very helpful to anyone to try to do so, either. The simple fact is that you need Aweber's help, as it applies to your individual account.
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    • Profile picture of the author Brendon Zahrndt
      Originally Posted by joseph7384 View Post

      Once you select double opt-in, you cannot change to single opt-in.
      Uhh.......
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    • Profile picture of the author absolutelee
      Originally Posted by joseph7384 View Post

      Once you select double opt-in, you cannot change to single opt-in.
      That's the right answer. You'll have to create a new list and make it single opt in from the get go.
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      • Profile picture of the author joseph7384
        Originally Posted by absolutelee View Post

        That's the right answer. You'll have to create a new list and make it single opt in from the get go.

        I know from my experience in using Aweber, but then you have those who think that they know everything.
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      • Profile picture of the author Alex Antoniazzi
        Originally Posted by absolutelee View Post

        That's the right answer. You'll have to create a new list and make it single opt in from the get go.
        Then why after I changed my list with subscribers on it to off, they are now able to sign up with single opt in? Maybe it use to be like that and they changed it because my single opt in is working just fine now.
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        • Profile picture of the author Teravel
          Originally Posted by Alexbrightdog View Post

          Then why after I changed my list with subscribers on it to off, they are now able to sign up with single opt in?
          This thread is a perfect example of how incorrect assumptions start and spread. One person says it can't be done, and everyone jumps on board. Even after it's been proven otherwise.

          Everyone who said "It cant be done", please log into your Aweber account and TRY IT.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Antoniazzi
    Why does it say turn off / on then?
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  • Profile picture of the author joseph7384
    I don't make the rules, they do.
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  • Profile picture of the author stevenjacobs
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    single optin is something very important when building a list
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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Antoniazzi
    Thanks guys, I didn't realize about the waiting. I was literally going back and forth between on and off and testing under like a minute time, now that I waited its working.

    So to confirm, you CAN Change the opt in option
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    • Profile picture of the author criniit
      Originally Posted by Alexbrightdog View Post

      Thanks guys, I didn't realize about the waiting. I was literally going back and forth between on and off and testing under like a minute time, now that I waited its working.

      So to confirm, you CAN Change the opt in option
      Keep in mind too that if you have it set to single optin and you are testing it, you are probably opting into the form several times in a short amount of time. Aweber will see this as a bunch of optins coming in from the same IP address and will switch it over to double optin (they call it throttling) for an hour or so to "protect your account" from being spammed.

      Just give it an hour or so and it will go back to single optin.
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    • Profile picture of the author Viper64
      Originally Posted by Alexbrightdog View Post

      Thanks guys, I didn't realize about the waiting. I was literally going back and forth between on and off and testing under like a minute time, now that I waited its working.

      So to confirm, you CAN Change the opt in option
      Not now since you've opted into that list.. As joseph7384 said, you'll have to create a new one, turn it off.. wait.. then test.. Once you have a subscriber on the list, you can't change it.
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      • Profile picture of the author Alex Antoniazzi
        Originally Posted by Viper64 View Post

        Not now since you've opted into that list.. As joseph7384 said, you'll have to create a new one, turn it off.. wait.. then test.. Once you have a subscriber on the list, you can't change it.
        Well I had subscribers and changed it and its working just fine now...just had to put in the new code.
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        • Profile picture of the author Teravel
          Originally Posted by Alexbrightdog View Post

          now that I waited its working.
          So to confirm, you CAN Change the opt in option
          Great to hear that you sorted things out.

          Originally Posted by Viper64 View Post

          Not now since you've opted into that list.. As joseph7384 said, you'll have to create a new one, turn it off.. wait.. then test.. Once you have a subscriber on the list, you can't change it.
          Viper, please pay more attention before you post. You quoted the OP saying the issue was resolved, and then you added that he couldn't do what had already been done.

          Originally Posted by dreamhobbiz View Post

          but isn't double optin better than single optin?
          Not always. Sometimes you just want to get a bunch of interested people on your list as quickly as you can, knowing that later on you will be able to peak their interest with quality content. This doesn't take a double opt-in to do, and having a double opt-in would result in less people signing up.

          Originally Posted by tristatemedia View Post

          i only use get response because they allow single optin.
          All of the email responder services I have used allow Single opt-in. Aweber is one of them.
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  • Profile picture of the author dreamhobbiz
    but isn't double optin better than single optin?
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  • Profile picture of the author wDigital
    This has happened to me a few times while I am testing a squeeze page myself and opting in many times from my IP address, it is just a security measure from aWeber, real optins should be fine going forward. It has never been an issue for me.

    All the best
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  • Profile picture of the author JaysonH
    Originally Posted by Alexbrightdog View Post

    Ok I need some help because I am really confused here. I was reading it is better to have single opt in for your squeeze page so that's what I tried to do.

    When I log in to my aweber account and I go to:

    List Options > List Settings >Require Opt In Web Forms I have it turned to off.

    I went back to my squeeze page, entered my email, and I got taken to the custom URL that I put in, great. Then I looked at subscriber list and saw my email but says "Conformation Pending" which I thought I turned off. Sure enough I got an email asking me to opt in?

    Am misunderstanding something here? I thought that is exactly what I turned off.
    This happens when aweber sees multiple requests from the same IP address. I had this problem when testing my aweber forms.

    Have a friend fill it out and see if that works. If not, I have one other idea.

    EDIT: Sorry, just scrolled down to the bottom and see you got it working!
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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Antoniazzi
    I think it depends on your niche. For me I am doing dog training so I think single works better.
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  • Profile picture of the author Self Made
    "
    Confirmed Opt-In is a process used to ensure that only people who want to receive your emails are subscribed to your list.
    It works by sending new subscribers an initial message asking them to confirm that they want to receive your email. Subscribers confirm by clicking on a link in the email.
    If you prefer, you can disable Confirmed Opt-In for people who sign up using a web form that you create and place on your site.
    However, we strongly encourage you to use Confirmed Opt-In for your web forms.
    Why You Should Use Confirmed Opt-In
    "
    That is the message you get when turning it off!

    Thanks I never knew about this just did it my self.
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  • Profile picture of the author kencalhn
    i've only used double optin for 15 years, because otherwise competitors could maliciously subscribe leads and cause spam complaints/fines
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    • Profile picture of the author tigertale
      I tried creating a new list and I cannot find where there is an ON/OFF on the Confirmed Opt-in Setting.

      I want single opt-ins for the purchasers because some are not too savvy about opting-in in my niche.
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  • Profile picture of the author tigertale
    I just sent them an email.

    But the screenshot was from their own knowledge base. ugh.
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