why your not making money

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Hello, I've been a member for two years now and I've been in your shoes. I am now doing $10k to $20k+ monthly without much effort and it grows every month and has for a long time now. After just getting married, having a baby on the way and having just bought my first house: all from making money online. I decided I wanted to share some things you won't hear anywhere else. I wish people had told me 2 years ago.

If you really want to make it in this industry read the following.


You, the newbie and how you think.

You have a website, you have back-links, you have organic traffic.

You have clicks on your paid ads, you have clicks to your offers.

You have a brand, but only your ego gets off to it but does your customers.

You sit and decide, Google AdSense or CPA offers, will I get banned?

You think, what do you they think, what do you think warriors: this vs that?

You ask in a new thread if it's possible to do something the minute you have an idea that'll actually work. Is this for your personal ego to be a wana-bee business owner or CEO?


You ask questions that have no substance to sound important or like you know something.

Where this thinking leads.

You are so enamored in the things you've done, you've learned and you've created that you've grown your ego to a point of being stuck. You see yourself as an Internet marketer, a business owner or a CEO baller. You feel like a hotshot for having generated free traffic or have gotten clicks or a single conversion on an offer.

You sit on a website talking to other people creating safe relationships with strangers instead of actually working on the ideas you have, instead, you post them in new threads.

You buy symptoms of successful websites like: back links, coaching offers that teach things that are outdated and other garbage to make yourself feel like somebody, without actually having to do anything.

You still wonder why you don't make any money.


Get over yourself.
It's not about making millions, making thousands monthly and being a baller or a guru.

It's about hard work and acting on the ideas you have.

It's about not asking questions and experimenting you.

It's about losing money, getting back up and learning from mistakes.

It's about taking risks.

It's about constant change.

It's about your attitude.

It's about the internal dialogue/speak in your own head.



It's about acting on ideas and not looking for acceptance of it. Your drive should be to make money, not to have other people tell you your idea is good.

It doesn't work, give it up.

You spend weeks on things that don't back out.

You spend money on the same things that didn't work before.

You make a game out of something that should be calculated and simple.

You waste the most valuable tool of all time.


You don't have the resources

Stop chasing things you cannot afford to do.

Stop looking for funding or JV partners.

Stop wasting what you have on things that didn't work before.

If everything works and your not making money, do something else.

Get over yourself and your ego. It's about making money. Take what you've learned and go take the lesson and turn it into money this time.






I've lost thousands of dollars between campaigns that didn't work and I've lost thousands for campaigns not paid. Everyday is different and everyday something that worked the day before will not work that day or the day after.

You as a newbie need to take time to understand what this industry actually is and what Internet marketing actually is. Take time to click on other peoples ads and understand why they have landing pages setup the way they do, why the ad worked and take a look at what is in front of you everyday.

Learn yourself and spend the money. Pick up as much work as you can offline and online and use your time wisely. Stop chasing the next best idea or product. Stop chasing all of these things you don't have the vision for. Focus on what other people do and do it yourself, stop paying for courses and just look at how they're being pitched to you.

Most importantly: get over yourself but also realize that the guy making $1,000,000 a year was in your shoes too so don't beat yourself up. Internet marketing is not magic, it is hard work, risk and failing 100000x times before you make a dime.

Internet marketing is a psychological understanding of you, the world around you, nature and technology.

Clicks, CPMs, offer payouts, websites, hosting, software, ad banners, adsense placements and everything else people talk about are pointless if you don't have a simple way you plan on driving people to: click on, fill out or purchase whatever it is your selling. It doesn't matter how much traffic you send to your website without a good sales funnel.

Learn by looking at other peoples websites, the funnels the user engagement and the copy. Understand why they do it and stop judging others, your not making any money remember? You need to accept that others are no better than you too. How else can you ever learn by just looking at things if you think you know what is best when your not even successful yourself? Get over yourself!

Things to actually worry about once you figure things out.
Networks scrub at the end of the month based on the quality of your leads. Keep in touch with affiliate managers daily.

Networks shave clicks so they can redirect your traffic to their own networks in-house affiliate links to basically make free income off of your traffic. Watch your reports daily.

Networks don't payout until they get paid for the most part. So take the lower paying out version of an offer at a bigger affiliate network or work directly with advertisers to avoid: shaving, scrubbing and getting paid out.

Networks’ telling you it’s OK to run an offer a certain way and the advertiser not knowing. Make sure your affiliate agreements are solid, this is a business, and it’s not magic.

Keep in touch and make friends with your affiliate managers. If you’re a newbie, be honest. No one likes these hot shot new marketers that know nothing but act like they're a Fortune 500 CEO when they demand offers and never run any traffic. If your not making someone money leave them alone if they've helped you out a bit. Go make money and stop being afraid to lose money.

So, in the end in order to be successful in this industry you need to: get over yourself, take risks, stop being an afraid & fearful and stop asking ambiguous questions or telling people your awesome ideas that you don't act on because you think you'll get banned or you think it's morally backwards.

Doing business is the only way humans can still hunt and follow their nature. We're human and we should become more human. So embrace your nature, square yourself off and follow that vision of yours.
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  • Profile picture of the author dana67
    I thought this was a great post with great advice.

    So many people think it's going to be easy to make money online. Just sign up and put it on auto-pilot. It doesn't work that way.

    Like anything else in life, making money online takes some hard work and dedication. But it can pay off.
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      Cody (I assume that's your name) I have been here long enough to read posts like yours and get a feel for the person making it, where he's coming from. You've been a member here since 2012 and yet only have a little over 200 posts. So you obviously spend more time working than posting on forums, something I did way too much of in my early years. Point is, I can usually smell BS when I hear it and there is none of that coming from you. I actually believe you're successful, mostly because of what you said which made me take a long hard look at myself.

      My biggest problem is the one point you made about spending money, losing money and essentially taking risks. I am not in an position right now, in spite of about 8 years of having a very successful business, to do those things. My business tanked when Google cracked down on my traffic generation sources so I am essentially starting all over and doing it in a niche outside of my old one which was teaching others how to make money online. For one thing, I'd be a total hypocrite if I continued in that niche given that I'm broke now.

      So I turned to my life long passion, music. I do have a plan in place. Actually, 4 different plans of attack and each one is solid. The stumbling block for me is going to be finding the funds to get sales letters written and generate traffic if I can't do it through organic search. The sales letters are my biggest stumbling block at the moment. I simply don't have 2 grand for the kind of letter I feel I need to make the offer convert well enough to attract affiliates. And yes, I would be willing to go out and get a job to pay for that sales letter but health issues prevent me from getting regular employment, which is why I turned to the Internet in the first place in 2003.

      Why am I telling you all this? Honestly? I'd like to run my 4 pronged attack by you to see what you think of my plans. I trust your opinion because I think you could spot any flaws that I might have missed. I think I may be too close to it to see any potential problems. I do know that if I write the sales letter myself, as much as I know about music and the niche it applies to, I am probably not giving myself the best chance for success. I'm a fair copywriter but I'm not the best. And right now, as broke as I am, I need the best. Ironically, I don't have the money to pay for the best and don't know what to do to get it.

      If you'd be willing to allow me to contact you with just a brief outline of what I'm doing, I'd appreciate just a short little "looks good" or "I see problems here, here and here" just so I can avoid disaster before it happens. Because like I said, the key points that you made about spending money, losing money and taking risks are things I just can't afford right now. As it is, I've already sunk 10K into my new business model and there just isn't anything left. The well is dry.

      So if you can help me in any way, I'd appreciate it.
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      • Profile picture of the author dana67
        Steven,

        I wanted to with you the best of luck. A lot of small businesses tanked when Google cracked down on traffic generation sources, even those who were doing everything white hat / legitimately. In some cases, it seemed like Google's changes favored the huge sites and companies while hurting the little guy.

        I hope your business begins to take off again very soon.
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      • Profile picture of the author ZephyrIon
        Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

        Cody (I assume that's your name) I have been here long enough to read posts like yours and get a feel for the person making it, where he's coming from. You've been a member here since 2012 and yet only have a little over 200 posts. So you obviously spend more time working than posting on forums, something I did way too much of in my early years. Point is, I can usually smell BS when I hear it and there is none of that coming from you. I actually believe you're successful, mostly because of what you said which made me take a long hard look at myself.

        My biggest problem is the one point you made about spending money, losing money and essentially taking risks. I am not in an position right now, in spite of about 8 years of having a very successful business, to do those things. My business tanked when Google cracked down on my traffic generation sources so I am essentially starting all over and doing it in a niche outside of my old one which was teaching others how to make money online. For one thing, I'd be a total hypocrite if I continued in that niche given that I'm broke now.

        So I turned to my life long passion, music. I do have a plan in place. Actually, 4 different plans of attack and each one is solid. The stumbling block for me is going to be finding the funds to get sales letters written and generate traffic if I can't do it through organic search. The sales letters are my biggest stumbling block at the moment. I simply don't have 2 grand for the kind of letter I feel I need to make the offer convert well enough to attract affiliates. And yes, I would be willing to go out and get a job to pay for that sales letter but health issues prevent me from getting regular employment, which is why I turned to the Internet in the first place in 2003.

        Why am I telling you all this? Honestly? I'd like to run my 4 pronged attack by you to see what you think of my plans. I trust your opinion because I think you could spot any flaws that I might have missed. I think I may be too close to it to see any potential problems. I do know that if I write the sales letter myself, as much as I know about music and the niche it applies to, I am probably not giving myself the best chance for success. I'm a fair copywriter but I'm not the best. And right now, as broke as I am, I need the best. Ironically, I don't have the money to pay for the best and don't know what to do to get it.

        If you'd be willing to allow me to contact you with just a brief outline of what I'm doing, I'd appreciate just a short little "looks good" or "I see problems here, here and here" just so I can avoid disaster before it happens. Because like I said, the key points that you made about spending money, losing money and taking risks are things I just can't afford right now. As it is, I've already sunk 10K into my new business model and there just isn't anything left. The well is dry.

        So if you can help me in any way, I'd appreciate it.
        Hey brother. Sorry to hear things tanked out. I had that happen with Facebook diet and skin care ads. Have you ever tried Facebook PPC? I'd focus on less moving parts and focus on something without any investment in order to get a good copy written.

        I've stepped out of PPC to making offers and running a network. I still buy media but as far as making products: it is just so time consuming and resource consuming. You sound like you know how to buy PPC traffic and how to create ad/copy.

        I'd check out this thing called Custom T-shirts » Design & Sell T-Shirts for Your Group | Teespring or something similar to it (no startup cost accept ads) that you can mold to a trending topic. I'd take that $2-$3k and learn how to do Facebook Ads with something legit like TeeSpring and avoid diet and skin care type stuff.

        I'm a big advocate of Facebook and an even bigger advocate of avoiding startups without the capital to back the media campaign after building a business or product (so much time and money).

        I launched something called and realized after months of creation I'd spent all my diet ad profit on creating the thing and then didn't have $10k plus to back to budget to run the offer at a CPA network.

        Point is brother, stick with something simple to build you bucks back up and I'd avoid building a sales letter & building out a product unless you find a bomb copy writer on craigslist or something really cheap that needs a few bucks.

        I'd stick with what your good at, running PPC campaigns. And TeeSpring is neat as far as no cost to start up. FB is cheap too man and targeting is far beyond Googles ability.
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        • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
          Originally Posted by ZephyrIon View Post

          Hey brother. Sorry to hear things tanked out. I had that happen with Facebook diet and skin care ads. Have you ever tried Facebook PPC? I'd focus on less moving parts and focus on something without any investment in order to get a good copy written.

          I've stepped out of PPC to making offers and running a network. I still buy media but as far as making products: it is just so time consuming and resource consuming. You sound like you know how to buy PPC traffic and how to create ad/copy.

          I'd check out this thing called Custom T-shirts » Design & Sell T-Shirts for Your Group | Teespring or something similar to it (no startup cost accept ads) that you can mold to a trending topic. I'd take that $2-$3k and learn how to do Facebook Ads with something legit like TeeSpring and avoid diet and skin care type stuff.

          I'm a big advocate of Facebook and an even bigger advocate of avoiding startups without the capital to back the media campaign after building a business or product (so much time and money).

          I launched something called My Facebook Formula and realized after months of creation I'd spent all my diet ad profit on creating the thing and then didn't have $10k plus to back to budget to run the offer at a CPA network.

          Point is brother, stick with something simple to build you bucks back up and I'd avoid building a sales letter & building out a product unless you find a bomb copy writer on craigslist or something really cheap that needs a few bucks.

          I'd stick with what your good at, running PPC campaigns. And TeeSpring is neat as far as no cost to start up. FB is cheap too man and targeting is far beyond Googles ability.
          Believe it or not, I haven't done PPC since the early days. I was never really comfortable with it.

          I'm probably going to go with going directly to the affiliates who would be most interested in selling this product. I think that's my best shot. The other 3 avenues, JVs are probably my best bet. I think I know how I have to go about this. The problem is, no affiliate worth his salt will promote something that doesn't have a proven sales page. And for this plan to work, I absolutely need a sales page of some kind.

          Anyway, thanks for the advice. I'm sure I'll figure it out.
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          • Profile picture of the author ZephyrIon
            Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

            Believe it or not, I haven't done PPC since the early days. I was never really comfortable with it.

            I'm probably going to go with going directly to the affiliates who would be most interested in selling this product. I think that's my best shot. The other 3 avenues, JVs are probably my best bet. I think I know how I have to go about this. The problem is, no affiliate worth his salt will promote something that doesn't have a proven sales page. And for this plan to work, I absolutely need a sales page of some kind.

            Anyway, thanks for the advice. I'm sure I'll figure it out.
            That's where I was stuck last time. I made one too that was really good (IMO). So I moved into co-registration and incentivized marketing.
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    • Profile picture of the author Aira Bongco
      I can completely relate. I guess it is a common mistake among students because the Internet seems to be infused with technology. They think that they can get anything at a click of a button as if they are searching on Google. But running an online business is not that different from running it offline. It requires hard work and dedication. It also needs passion and willing participation in a community. That is the only key to real constant success.

      Originally Posted by dana67 View Post

      I thought this was a great post with great advice.

      So many people think it's going to be easy to make money online. Just sign up and put it on auto-pilot. It doesn't work that way.

      Like anything else in life, making money online takes some hard work and dedication. But it can pay off.
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  • Profile picture of the author Phil Steptoe
    I've learned some valuable lessons about IM/AM on this forum, but it's reinforced some much more valuable life lessons in my mind. So true. Excellent post. I wish more people posted more stuff like this.
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  • Profile picture of the author BizQ
    You aren't making any money because 1) you haven't done anything but sit and read about what you should be doing. OR 2) you have done what you should do, but you don't have enough targeted traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author Taniwha
    Congrats on your success, but a worrying trend I'm picking up is your lack of taking copyrights and trademarks serious.

    1) You've altered Intstagram's logo - most likely without their written permission. That's messing with Facebook!
    2) Your Youtube account 'FacebookMarketingCom' makes me assume that you've had that domain in the past, although I may be wrong
    3) In the above video you posted, it's playing a song which you haven't given credit to in your description (Ivan Gough - In My Mind)

    Those were just found from this thread, so there may be many more examples. If so, sort them out asap before they come to bite you in the ass.

    ADDITION: https://help.instagram.com/304689166306603

    " Don’t:

    Use the Instagram brand in a way that implies partnership, sponsorship or endorsement

    Combine any part of the Instagram brand with your name, marks, designs or generic terms

    Use trademarks, names, domain names, usernames, logos or other content that imitate or could be confused with Instagram

    Present Instagram in a way that makes it the most distinctive or prominent feature of what you’re creating

    Use any icons, images or trademarks to represent Instagram other than what is found on this page

    Copy the Instagram look and feel

    Assert rights over the Instagram trademarks whether by trademark registration, domain name registration, username or anything else

    Feature Instagram on materials associated with pornography, illegal activities, or other materials that violate the Instagram Terms

    Modify Instagram brand assets in any way, such as by changing the design or color"
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    • Profile picture of the author ZephyrIon
      Originally Posted by Taniwha View Post

      Congrats on your success, but a worrying trend I'm picking up is your lack of taking copyrights and trademarks serious.

      1) You've altered Intstagram's logo - most likely without their written permission. That's messing with Facebook!
      2) Your Youtube account 'FacebookMarketingCom' makes me assume that you've had that domain in the past, although I may be wrong
      3) In the above video you posted, it's playing a song which you haven't given credit to in your description (Ivan Gough - In My Mind)

      Those were just found from this thread, so there may be many more examples. If so, sort them out asap before they come to bite you in the ass.

      ADDITION: https://help.instagram.com/304689166306603

      " Don't:

      Use the Instagram brand in a way that implies partnership, sponsorship or endorsement

      Combine any part of the Instagram brand with your name, marks, designs or generic terms

      Use trademarks, names, domain names, usernames, logos or other content that imitate or could be confused with Instagram

      Present Instagram in a way that makes it the most distinctive or prominent feature of what you're creating

      Use any icons, images or trademarks to represent Instagram other than what is found on this page

      Copy the Instagram look and feel

      Assert rights over the Instagram trademarks whether by trademark registration, domain name registration, username or anything else

      Feature Instagram on materials associated with pornography, illegal activities, or other materials that violate the Instagram Terms

      Modify Instagram brand assets in any way, such as by changing the design or color"
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  • Profile picture of the author Ladylavender
    Originally Posted by ZephyrIon View Post

    Hello, I've been a member for two years now and I've been in your shoes. I am now doing $10k to $20k+ monthly without much effort and it grows every month and has for a long time now. After just getting married, having a baby on the way and having just bought my first house: all from making money online. I decided I wanted to share some things you won't hear anywhere else. I wish people had told me 2 years ago.

    If you really want to make it in this industry read the following.


    You, the newbie and how you think.

    You have a website, you have back-links, you have organic traffic.

    You have clicks on your paid ads, you have clicks to your offers.

    You have a brand, but only your ego gets off to it but does your customers.

    You sit and decide, Google AdSense or CPA offers, will I get banned?

    You think, what do you they think, what do you think warriors: this vs that?

    You ask in a new thread if it's possible to do something the minute you have an idea that'll actually work. Is this for your personal ego to be a wana-bee business owner or CEO?


    You ask questions that have no substance to sound important or like you know something.

    Where this thinking leads.

    You are so enamored in the things you've done, you've learned and you've created that you've grown your ego to a point of being stuck. You see yourself as an Internet marketer, a business owner or a CEO baller. You feel like a hotshot for having generated free traffic or have gotten clicks or a single conversion on an offer.

    You sit on a website talking to other people creating safe relationships with strangers instead of actually working on the ideas you have, instead, you post them in new threads.

    You buy symptoms of successful websites like: back links, coaching offers that teach things that are outdated and other garbage to make yourself feel like somebody, without actually having to do anything.

    You still wonder why you don't make any money.


    Get over yourself.
    It's not about making millions, making thousands monthly and being a baller or a guru.

    It's about hard work and acting on the ideas you have.

    It's about not asking questions and experimenting you.

    It's about losing money, getting back up and learning from mistakes.

    It's about taking risks.

    It's about constant change.

    It's about your attitude.

    It's about the internal dialogue/speak in your own head.



    It's about acting on ideas and not looking for acceptance of it. Your drive should be to make money, not to have other people tell you your idea is good.

    It doesn't work, give it up.

    You spend weeks on things that don't back out.

    You spend money on the same things that didn't work before.

    You make a game out of something that should be calculated and simple.

    You waste the most valuable tool of all time.


    You don't have the resources

    Stop chasing things you cannot afford to do.

    Stop looking for funding or JV partners.

    Stop wasting what you have on things that didn't work before.

    If everything works and your not making money, do something else.

    Get over yourself and your ego. It's about making money. Take what you've learned and go take the lesson and turn it into money this time.






    I've lost thousands of dollars between campaigns that didn't work and I've lost thousands for campaigns not paid. Everyday is different and everyday something that worked the day before will not work that day or the day after.

    You as a newbie need to take time to understand what this industry actually is and what Internet marketing actually is. Take time to click on other peoples ads and understand why they have landing pages setup the way they do, why the ad worked and take a look at what is in front of you everyday.

    Learn yourself and spend the money. Pick up as much work as you can offline and online and use your time wisely. Stop chasing the next best idea or product. Stop chasing all of these things you don't have the vision for. Focus on what other people do and do it yourself, stop paying for courses and just look at how they're being pitched to you.

    Most importantly: get over yourself but also realize that the guy making $1,000,000 a year was in your shoes too so don't beat yourself up. Internet marketing is not magic, it is hard work, risk and failing 100000x times before you make a dime.

    Internet marketing is a psychological understanding of you, the world around you, nature and technology.

    Clicks, CPMs, offer payouts, websites, hosting, software, ad banners, adsense placements and everything else people talk about are pointless if you don't have a simple way you plan on driving people to: click on, fill out or purchase whatever it is your selling. It doesn't matter how much traffic you send to your website without a good sales funnel.

    Learn by looking at other peoples websites, the funnels the user engagement and the copy. Understand why they do it and stop judging others, your not making any money remember? You need to accept that others are no better than you too. How else can you ever learn by just looking at things if you think you know what is best when your not even successful yourself? Get over yourself!

    Things to actually worry about once you figure things out.
    Networks scrub at the end of the month based on the quality of your leads. Keep in touch with affiliate managers daily.

    Networks shave clicks so they can redirect your traffic to their own networks in-house affiliate links to basically make free income off of your traffic. Watch your reports daily.

    Networks don't payout until they get paid for the most part. So take the lower paying out version of an offer at a bigger affiliate network or work directly with advertisers to avoid: shaving, scrubbing and getting paid out.

    Networks' telling you it's OK to run an offer a certain way and the advertiser not knowing. Make sure your affiliate agreements are solid, this is a business, and it's not magic.

    Keep in touch and make friends with your affiliate managers. If you're a newbie, be honest. No one likes these hot shot new marketers that know nothing but act like they're a Fortune 500 CEO when they demand offers and never run any traffic. If your not making someone money leave them alone if they've helped you out a bit. Go make money and stop being afraid to lose money.

    So, in the end in order to be successful in this industry you need to: get over yourself, take risks, stop being an afraid & fearful and stop asking ambiguous questions or telling people your awesome ideas that you don't act on because you think you'll get banned or you think it's morally backwards.

    Doing business is the only way humans can still hunt and follow their nature. We're human and we should become more human. So embrace your nature, square yourself off and follow that vision of yours.

    Great Information

    Much appreciated,
    Ladylavender
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  • Profile picture of the author Taniwha
    Remember to not take that as a personal attack. That advice could save you from some serious lawsuits - more than I think you realize.
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  • Profile picture of the author Davidconstable
    "ZephyrIon" gave some good idea. I like his idea. I am walking on this way from last month.
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    No signature, work makes me pleasure
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  • Profile picture of the author Taniwha
    Regardless of whether you do or don't make enough to cover the license fee, you never know what could happen. And personally, I'd rather not risk it (ethics of stealing companies creativity aside..).
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  • Profile picture of the author WhipStrip
    Originally Posted by ZephyrIon View Post

    Hello, I've been a member for two years now and I've been in your shoes. I am now doing $10k to $20k+ monthly without much effort and it grows every month and has for a long time now. After just getting married, having a baby on the way and having just bought my first house: all from making money online. I decided I wanted to share some things you won't hear anywhere else. I wish people had told me 2 years ago.

    If you really want to make it in this industry read the following.


    You, the newbie and how you think.

    You have a website, you have back-links, you have organic traffic.

    You have clicks on your paid ads, you have clicks to your offers.

    You have a brand, but only your ego gets off to it but does your customers.

    You sit and decide, Google AdSense or CPA offers, will I get banned?

    You think, what do you they think, what do you think warriors: this vs that?

    You ask in a new thread if it's possible to do something the minute you have an idea that'll actually work. Is this for your personal ego to be a wana-bee business owner or CEO?

    Aa
    You ask questions that have no substance to sound important or like you know something.

    Where this thinking leads.

    You are so enamored in the things you've done, you've learned and you've created that you've grown your ego to a point of being stuck. You see yourself as an Internet marketer, a business owner or a CEO baller. You feel like a hotshot for having generated free traffic or have gotten clicks or a single conversion on an offer.

    You sit on a website talking to other people creating safe relationships with strangers instead of actually working on the ideas you have, instead, you post them in new threads.

    You buy symptoms of successful websites like: back links, coaching offers that teach things that are outdated and other garbage to make yourself feel like somebody, without actually having to do anything.

    You still wonder why you don't make any money.


    Get over yourself.
    It's not about making millions, making thousands monthly and being a baller or a guru.

    It's about hard work and acting on the ideas you have.

    It's about not asking questions and experimenting you.

    It's about losing money, getting back up and learning from mistakes.

    It's about taking risks.

    It's about constant change.

    It's about your attitude.

    It's about the internal dialogue/speak in your own head.



    It's about acting on ideas and not looking for acceptance of it. Your drive should be to make money, not to have other people tell you your idea is good.

    It doesn't work, give it up.

    You spend weeks on things that don't back out.

    You spend money on the same things that didn't work before.

    You make a game out of something that should be calculated and simple.

    You waste the most valuable tool of all time.


    You don't have the resources

    Stop chasing things you cannot afford to do.

    Stop looking for funding or JV partners.

    Stop wasting what you have on things that didn't work before.

    If everything works and your not making money, do something else.

    Get over yourself and your ego. It's about making money. Take what you've learned and go take the lesson and turn it into money this time.






    I've lost thousands of dollars between campaigns that didn't work and I've lost thousands for campaigns not paid. Everyday is different and everyday something that worked the day before will not work that day or the day after.

    You as a newbie need to take time to understand what this industry actually is and what Internet marketing actually is. Take time to click on other peoples ads and understand why they have landing pages setup the way they do, why the ad worked and take a look at what is in front of you everyday.

    Learn yourself and spend the money. Pick up as much work as you can offline and online and use your time wisely. Stop chasing the next best idea or product. Stop chasing all of these things you don't have the vision for. Focus on what other people do and do it yourself, stop paying for courses and just look at how they're being pitched to you.

    Most importantly: get over yourself but also realize that the guy making $1,000,000 a year was in your shoes too so don't beat yourself up. Internet marketing is not magic, it is hard work, risk and failing 100000x times before you make a dime.

    Internet marketing is a psychological understanding of you, the world around you, nature and technology.

    Clicks, CPMs, offer payouts, websites, hosting, software, ad banners, adsense placements and everything else people talk about are pointless if you don't have a simple way you plan on driving people to: click on, fill out or purchase whatever it is your selling. It doesn't matter how much traffic you send to your website without a good sales funnel.

    Learn by looking at other peoples websites, the funnels the user engagement and the copy. Understand why they do it and stop judging others, your not making any money remember? You need to accept that others are no better than you too. How else can you ever learn by just looking at things if you think you know what is best when your not even successful yourself? Get over yourself!

    Things to actually worry about once you figure things out.
    Networks scrub at the end of the month based on the quality of your leads. Keep in touch with affiliate managers daily.

    Networks shave clicks so they can redirect your traffic to their own networks in-house affiliate links to basically make free income off of your traffic. Watch your reports daily.

    Networks don't payout until they get paid for the most part. So take the lower paying out version of an offer at a bigger affiliate network or work directly with advertisers to avoid: shaving, scrubbing and getting paid out.

    Networks' telling you it's OK to run an offer a certain way and the advertiser not knowing. Make sure your affiliate agreements are solid, this is a business, and it's not magic.

    Keep in touch and make friends with your affiliate managers. If you're a newbie, be honest. No one likes these hot shot new marketers that know nothing but act like they're a Fortune 500 CEO when they demand offers and never run any traffic. If your not making someone money leave them alone if they've helped you out a bit. Go make money and stop being afraid to lose money.

    So, in the end in order to be successful in this industry you need to: get over yourself, take risks, stop being an afraid & fearful and stop asking ambiguous questions or telling people your awesome ideas that you don't act on because you think you'll get banned or you think it's morally backwards.

    Doing business is the only way humans can still hunt and follow their nature. We're human and we should become more human. So embrace your nature, square yourself off and follow that vision of yours.
    Great advice. Very well said...
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  • Profile picture of the author ohman1988
    You're right man, it's all about your mind set, not just with Internet Marketing! Keeping organized and keeping your eye on the goal is the only way we can move forward! I feel very strong about keeping organized, but you're exactly right you have to have your mind set and right before you can do anything!
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  • Profile picture of the author ryanbiddulph
    Nice share here. Go within, to change the without I say. Create and connect, but work to iron out your mental tools to manifest cool things more quickly. Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author firehawk
    This is the hard truth about IM.Making money online is simple but not easy at all.Its amazing how many IMers dream of making big money without solid marketing skills.I assume the relatively low barrier of entry is what makes it increasingly attractive to newbies.In any event one has to invest TIME MONEY N EFFORT.You spend all the long hours learning testing and tweaking what you have learned.Funny enough some folks even got no private marketing library.All they got is the "make $500 a day ebook" and non of marketing classics like Breakthrough Advertising,The Robert Collier Letter Book, Tested Advertising Methods,Ogilvy On Advertising and Influence The
    Pyschology Of Persuasion.For sure IM combines programming, psychology,data science and persuasion.Lastly but most critical into the equation is INTELLIGENCE N PATIENCE.
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  • Profile picture of the author Augustinus
    Great thread, I just cant agree that IM is very noting like magic trick and you are a milionaire . We must just think about we do and work and work again.
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  • Profile picture of the author ZephyrIon
    I'm more than happy to see so many people will grow from some simple truth. Good luck WF!
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  • Profile picture of the author CASHsystems
    Powerful post ZephyrIon. Very insightful and I was guilty of a lot of the negatives that you talk about when I first started. Making a little money here and a little money there. It's only been in the last part of last year that I stop playing and got serious and started making some real money. I have made more in the last 7 months than I have in all my years combined trying IM. (And no it is not about my ego cause I am not no where making what I want "yet", but I just want to emphasize how right you are.) When you take action, you are going to fail, but failures should be used to move up the ladder even higher from you learned. IM is NOT EASY, but with a plan, then re-plan and continuing to update yourself, you can get there. I am in no way close to what you are doing, but on my way. Hope everyone takes heed to this post. I am going to send it out to those on my list as it is inspirational and informative. Thanks for the share.
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