Hey Goarticles, WTF???

by adamv
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I've read about various people having success getting articles ranked pretty quickly in the serps after posting to goarticles and sending the article a few backlinks. I gave it a try, and it worked. I'm ranking pretty well and pretty quickly.

Just a few minutes ago I was checking the ranking of some of my articles and I decided to click on one of them just to make sure it was mine and to my surprise there were a BUNCH of links all through the article. They're posting links to ads throughout our articles now?

Now, I know a lot of people will say it's their directory and they can do whatever the hell they want but I'm sure this will have quite a negative effect on the CTR of my resource box.

My rankings have been good with them so I was putting a lot more attention on goarticles and a lot less on EZA but with all of the links sprinkled throughout my articles, I think I'm going to go running back to EZA.

I don't know if they're just testing this out or if it's here to stay but if all of those links continue to show up in my articles, I'll be posting elsewhere.
#goarticles #hey #wtf
  • Profile picture of the author rtrotter
    Yeah and now EZA is placing adsense above the fold in your articles. I wonder if they do not realize that in do this stuff, it just opens opportunities for other directories to service people better.

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  • Profile picture of the author TheGodfather
    well I say F**k them you get a high ranking and most people search that way anyway... over 80% if I'm not mistaking... you shouldn't complain unless the links that they advertise aren't a nofollow link then, IMO, they are abusing your article making power to promote other sites.

    I don't know if that is illegal or not. i think it might be because it's editing your content without your permissions, check their TOS and see if it says anything about you giving them permission on editing your content. who knows you might sue them and get millions just remember that i said this and at least buy me a beer in return
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    • Profile picture of the author adamv
      I seriously doubt it's illegal because they are not actually altering the content per se, the are just making some of my words into hyper links.

      It does piss me off though because with 5 to 8 links above mine, my CTR will certainly suffer. The only reason I'm posting on there and building backlinks to my articles is to get traffic but now that a lot of that traffic will be diverted I'll be posting on EZA again.

      It sucks though because I've been getting brand new articles ranked on the first couple of pages in 24 to 48 hours and with a little extra effort page one has been a piece of cake. I just feel like someone else is eating my cake now.
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    I say that tonight as well when I was building backlinks to some of my articles.
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  • Profile picture of the author peter gibson
    If this is a permanent change then goarticles has become much less valuable to article marketers. CTR will be dismal with all those competing links.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tony X
      I didn't know GoArticles did that. if they're doing it, you have two choices. Give them up, or keep using them. EZA is great. But they also place a bunch of ads on the articles. But who cares? As long as you get a good CTR and make a lot of money off them, then it doesn't matter.

      I would say test it. That's what good marketers do. At the end of the day, it may seem like you're getting f***ed, but if you come out on top. You will make a lot of money.

      Just test it dude...
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      • Profile picture of the author adamv
        Originally Posted by Tony X View Post

        I didn't know GoArticles did that. if they're doing it, you have two choices. Give them up, or keep using them. EZA is great. But they also place a bunch of ads on the articles. But who cares? As long as you get a good CTR and make a lot of money off them, then it doesn't matter.

        I would say test it. That's what good marketers do. At the end of the day, it may seem like you're getting f***ed, but if you come out on top. You will make a lot of money.

        Just test it dude...
        I really have no choice but to test it. My articles are already there and I'm certainly not going to take them down but I would bet a big pile of money that a bunch of links sprinkled throughout the article will have a negative effect on the CTR.

        I'm just giving others a heads up about it so they can decide if they want to spend their time submitting and SEOing articles for goarticles like I have been for the last couple of weeks.
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    I agree with you, Tony.

    It will be better to test it and then choose the method that drives the most traffic to the website.

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  • Profile picture of the author Tyrus Antas
    One more reason to not depend on other people's platforms.

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    • Profile picture of the author adamv
      Originally Posted by Tyrus Antas View Post

      One more reason to not depend on other people's platforms.

      Tyrus
      I try not to depend too heavily on other people's platforms but I was getting articles from just submitted to page one in google in 48 hours or less.

      I can't do that with my own web pages. With articles it's easier to shoot straight to the top and also to get top ranking for a whole bunch of different key word phrases.
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      • Profile picture of the author Richard Tunnah
        Thanks for the 'heads up' Adam. You are right goarticles have linked to a load of adverts in my articles. All rather dissapointing as you say.

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        • Profile picture of the author Kay King
          Timing is interesting as just recently there are have threads here and on other forums/blogs about "go articles are getting good response".

          A month later - multiple links inserted into articles. Looks like a campaign to build up business and then monetize it. It's their site and if that's how they choose to run it, I'm sure they can do that.

          But - article directories are dependent on author's submitting articles to their site. I won't be submitting there again and may well take down the articles I currently have on GoArticles.

          I can't tell them how to run their site - but I can choose not to contribute to their free content. There are lots of article directories.

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          • Profile picture of the author Richard Tunnah
            Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

            Timing is interesting as just recently there are have threads here and on other forums/blogs about "go articles are getting good response".

            A month later - multiple links inserted into articles. Looks like a campaign to build up business and then monetize it. It's their site and if that's how they choose to run it, I'm sure they can do that.

            But - article directories are dependent on author's submitting articles to their site. I won't be submitting there again and may well take down the articles I currently have on GoArticles.

            I can't tell them how to run their site - but I can choose not to contribute to their free content. There are lots of article directories.

            kay
            You're right Kay. It's their site and their choice. However there's lots of article directories out there and while some don't get the traffic now they might next month especially if lots of people start submitting their articles to these instead of places like EZA or goarticles.

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            • Profile picture of the author Kay King
              I like Jack Humphrey's list at http://www.jackhumphrey.com/fridaytr...irectory-list/

              but I just removed goarticles from my copy of the list

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  • Profile picture of the author wmd
    I may be showing my inexperience here, but isnt it still good to use goarticles in order to get backlinks to your site?

    Even if your articles are not getting a good ctr or doesnt get ranked high in serps, they are still there giving your main site some backlink juice.... right?

    Besides driving traffic to your main site, is there any other way to make money from articles? My reason for asking this is, if there is no immediate monetary value from the ctr rate on your articles, then why worry about the adverts... the article is still sitting there giving you a backlink?

    I would think it is better to focus your efforts on getting your main page ranked high in the serps rather than trying to get your articles ranked high.

    Like I said, I may be showing my inexperience here, but if I don't ask these questions I may never know the answers.
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Tunnah
      Originally Posted by wmd View Post

      I may be showing my inexperience here, but isnt it still good to use goarticles in order to get backlinks to your site?

      Even if your articles are not getting a good ctr or doesnt get ranked high in serps, they are still there giving your main site some backlink juice.... right?

      Besides driving traffic to your main site, is there any other way to make money from articles? My reason for asking this is, if there is no immediate monetary value from the ctr rate on your articles, then why worry about the adverts... the article is still sitting there giving you a backlink?

      I would think it is better to focus your efforts on getting your main page ranked high in the serps rather than trying to get your articles ranked high.

      Like I said, I may be showing my inexperience here, but if I don't ask these questions I may never know the answers.
      Yes article marketing will remain a key part of seo. However the problem with articles using on topic adsense above the fold or linking from within your article is it going to effect the click through rate for those that use articles to bum market (link to affliate or cpa offers directly from the article).

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  • Profile picture of the author MisterMunch
    Even though GoArticles are using your content for advertisment (by the way. that is the whole idea behind the article directory business model) you are still getting traffic that you would not have gotten if those articles was not ranking.

    If it is that easy to rank goarticles write a 100 articles, do your thing, and see what traffic and income this bring.

    If this justifies you publishing 100 more articles, then do so, if the income and trafic don't justefy it, then don't publish another 100 articles.
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  • Profile picture of the author Diana Lane
    I think it's out of order, to be honest. It's one thing to surround your articles with ads, where it's more obvious that these are placed by the site and not the author, but to convert your words to adlinks gives the impression that you actively endorse what's being sold. That is skanky.
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    • Profile picture of the author adamv
      Originally Posted by wmd View Post

      I may be showing my inexperience here, but isnt it still good to use goarticles in order to get backlinks to your site?

      Even if your articles are not getting a good ctr or doesnt get ranked high in serps, they are still there giving your main site some backlink juice.... right?

      Besides driving traffic to your main site, is there any other way to make money from articles? My reason for asking this is, if there is no immediate monetary value from the ctr rate on your articles, then why worry about the adverts... the article is still sitting there giving you a backlink?

      I would think it is better to focus your efforts on getting your main page ranked high in the serps rather than trying to get your articles ranked high.

      Like I said, I may be showing my inexperience here, but if I don't ask these questions I may never know the answers.
      You do get a backlink or two from your articles and it's always good to get backlinks but for me the direct traffic was the primary benefit of posting there and getting ranked in the serps. The backlinks were just a little bonus.
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    • Profile picture of the author adamv
      Originally Posted by Diana Lane View Post

      I think it's out of order, to be honest. It's one thing to surround your articles with ads, where it's more obvious that these are placed by the site and not the author, but to convert your words to adlinks gives the impression that you actively endorse what's being sold. That is skanky.
      I wasn't happy about it because I thought it would ruin my CTR but you're right about it appearing that the author of the article is endorsing whatever they're linking to. Now I have another reason to get pissed off.

      I know people will say it's their directory/business model and they can do whatever they want, and that's absolutely right but I won't be posting there again unless it the hyperlinks are taken out of the articles.

      On top of everything else, it just looks bad to have 7 or 8 blue links in a 350 word article.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Franklin
    I'm not surprised that GoArticles would do that! All of the high PR article directories have been following this trend.

    A couple of thoughts:

    1) It's so important to have a compelling resource box! You can still get good CTR's even with distracting advertising, but the resource box will still make or break you! I was looking at some of the more recent articles on GoArticles and I was amazed by how the resource boxes were so poorly written....

    2) There are some good high PR Wordpress-clone sites (Blogsome, etc.)that will allow you to publish articles without distracting advertising in the text. Best of all, you can get articles on these sites to rank high on Google as well.
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      [quote=Michael Franklin;900578]1) It's so important to have a compelling resource box! You can still get good CTR's even with distracting advertising, but the resource box will still make or break you! I was looking at some of the more recent articles on GoArticles and I was amazed by how the resource boxes were so poorly written....quote]

      Mike - any pointers for what constitutes "a compelling resource box" ?
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  • Profile picture of the author wmd
    Has anyone tried emailing goarticles support? I am sure that if they get enough negative feedback about the links then maybe they will re-evaluate their strategy in order to keep customers and ultimately improve their site.

    Just as it was said, they can do whatever they want, but their business model relies on people like us publishing there... if we stop then they lose content.
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  • Profile picture of the author Terry Crim
    Once you place content on someone elses site you lose all interest in that content. Make sure you read the TOS because depending on the wording you may have signed away your rights to that content. Don't believe me? read the fine print at many of the article directories, forum sites, blogs etc... Didn't read the TOS? Too bad, your out of luck then.

    Once you submit your content on sites you do not own, they can do anything they want to with it. Even publish it in print and bind it to sell in a bookstore. IF their TOS allows them to. But you say you own the copyright to your material you yourself wrote? Read the TOS on these sites that YOU submit content to, and by so doing submitting your content I mean, you agree to the legal mumbojumbo which in part or whole you agree to give up all rights to the content. Depends on the TOS and what it says.

    You don't like that they put ads around or inside your content... that sucks.
    LOL

    Sorry to hear that. Focus your content on the interests and desires of your readers, whatever niche that is. If it is good content people will ignore the ads to read what you have written.

    I don't know how you market yourselves but assuming you are using the bum marketing stuff with the quick or not so 300 or 400 word articles... This is what I would do. Feel free to ignore me if you already are doing this.

    I would plaster as many articles as I can to ANYWHERE. 30 to 40 sites a day. Assuming I already prewrote articles. I would setup my own sites and directories and also grab a group of you to join in the fun to do the same and we paste our content on each others sites, do some of that fancy skype voice or text and inteview each other and co-promote each other on the sites we jointly create seperately or together.

    Then I would continue to paste content linking back to these sites. Socialize it all on twitter, facebook etc...

    But they put ads in my article... blah! who cares, stop being dependant on a few sites. You know how many sites are out there you can tap into on ANY niche? If you would focus your efforts actually leveraging the internet you wouldn't give a rats ass.

    At least that is my opinion and view on this sad sob story that keeps coming up every now and again. Be dependant on one source for your marketing and you, well... I think you know how that goes.


    - Terry
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    • Profile picture of the author adamv
      Originally Posted by Terry Crim View Post

      Once you place content on someone elses site you lose all interest in that content. Make sure you read the TOS because depending on the wording you may have signed away your rights to that content. Don't believe me? read the fine print at many of the article directories, forum sites, blogs etc... Didn't read the TOS? Too bad, your out of luck then.

      Once you submit your content on sites you do not own, they can do anything they want to with it. Even publish it in print and bind it to sell in a bookstore. IF their TOS allows them to. But you say you own the copyright to your material you yourself wrote? Read the TOS on these sites that YOU submit content to, and by so doing submitting your content I mean, you agree to the legal mumbojumbo which in part or whole you agree to give up all rights to the content. Depends on the TOS and what it says.

      You don't like that they put ads around or inside your content... that sucks.
      LOL

      Sorry to hear that. Focus your content on the interests and desires of your readers, whatever niche that is. If it is good content people will ignore the ads to read what you have written.

      I don't know how you market yourselves but assuming you are using the bum marketing stuff with the quick or not so 300 or 400 word articles... This is what I would do. Feel free to ignore me if you already are doing this.

      I would plaster as many articles as I can to ANYWHERE. 30 to 40 sites a day. Assuming I already prewrote articles. I would setup my own sites and directories and also grab a group of you to join in the fun to do the same and we paste our content on each others sites, do some of that fancy skype voice or text and inteview each other and co-promote each other on the sites we jointly create seperately or together.

      Then I would continue to paste content linking back to these sites. Socialize it all on twitter, facebook etc...

      But they put ads in my article... blah! who cares, stop being dependant on a few sites. You know how many sites are out there you can tap into on ANY niche? If you would focus your efforts actually leveraging the internet you wouldn't give a rats ass.

      At least that is my opinion and view on this sad sob story that keeps coming up every now and again. Be dependant on one source for your marketing and you, well... I think you know how that goes.


      - Terry
      I don't know if your post is directed to me or just to everyone in general but I don't depend on just one source for my traffic, that would be silly.

      I'm not happy about them doing something that will lower my CTR but I've already said it myself 3 times in this thread, it's their directory and they can do what they want.

      My post wasn't a rant as much as it was a warning to others who might have been considering putting a bunch of effort into getting their articles on goarticles and building backlinks to those articles.

      Getting your goarticles ranking was a pretty good deal until last night, now it's not really worth the effort IMO. Not until they take the hyperlinks out of the articles.

      I will post elsewhere unless and until they change that. They can do what they want and so can I. I do believe however that I am not the only one who will be posting my stuff somewhere else so we'll see what happens when the volume of content they're used to getting starts to diminish.

      Again, my post was not meant to be a rant (well, maybe a mini rant) it was just a heads up to people who were considering taking what IMO would have been good advice until yesterday by posting and linking to goarticles.
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      • Profile picture of the author PatriciaJ
        It seems to me that authors should either pay to place their articles on other peoples sites or quietly accept that if they want a free service then the directory owners have the right to try and earn money from their business.

        It costs time and money to run an article directory and it takes a lot of time and hard work to build up traffic. Unfortunately the rewards are not as great as some people think, so directory owners have to experiment with advertising to enable them to make it worth their while continuing to offer a free service.

        I have recently added hyperlinked advertising to my directories as an experiment. If it doesn't work out the directories go because I'm tired of offering a thankless free service for a pittance, perhaps that's also how the other directory owners feel that are experimenting with advertising.
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        • Profile picture of the author seriousmny
          Originally Posted by PatriciaJ View Post

          It seems to me that authors should either pay to place their articles on other peoples sites or quietly accept that if they want a free service then the directory owners have the right to try and earn money from their business.

          It costs time and money to run an article directory and it takes a lot of time and hard work to build up traffic. Unfortunately the rewards are not as great as some people think, so directory owners have to experiment with advertising to enable them to make it worth their while continuing to offer a free service.

          I have recently added hyperlinked advertising to my directories as an experiment. If it doesn't work out the directories go because I'm tired of offering a thankless free service for a pittance, perhaps that's also how the other directory owners feel that are experimenting with advertising.
          I just read your response and I have to say reading it from the point of a directory owner, you have a point, but I would prefer you post some Adsense on the side rather than put a bunch of links through the article submitted. This way it gives you the opportunity to profit and for the author to convey their point without interruption. For me, its like if I am talking to someone and there is someone on the side trying to enter the conversation without being invited. It's impolite and annoying. We're both trying to make money here. I think some kind of middle ground can be reached.
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          • Profile picture of the author PatriciaJ
            Originally Posted by seriousmny View Post

            I just read your response and I have to say reading it from the point of a directory owner, you have a point, but I would prefer you post some Adsense on the side rather than put a bunch of links through the article submitted. This way it gives you the opportunity to profit and for the author to convey their point without interruption. For me, its like if I am talking to someone and there is someone on the side trying to enter the conversation without being invited. It's impolite and annoying. We're both trying to make money here. I think some kind of middle ground can be reached.
            Adsense earns peanuts - correction you are lucky to earn enough to buy a bag of peanuts for every 2000 visitors. I would prefer to just have adsense at the side and have only added the links as a last resort.
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        • Profile picture of the author Kay King
          I don't publish quickie short articles - I spend a lot of time writing and I put articles online where I get results from them. I don't just plaster them around and hope something sticks. But - some marketers do that and it works for them - not saying there's anything wrong with that method.

          It seems to me that authors should either pay to place their articles on other peoples sites or quietly accept that if they want a free service then the directory owners have the right to try and earn money from their business.
          The other side is that an article directory is dependent on articles being submitted by writers - without articles, there is no directory. Inserting hyperlinks into articles won't be a problem for those who use PLR or just throw some phrases together and call it an article. Good writers won't go along with this practice and won't submit to directories who add links.

          Writers don't have to quietly accept anything - any more than directory owners have to quietly accept poor quality articles submitted. Clicks to my site from GoArticles have stopped dead since they implemented the ads - which tells me readability is greatly affected.

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          • Profile picture of the author WritingMadwoman
            Articlesbase has done this too, I stopped using them because of it. And the kicker - they started separating the author bio boxes from the articles by a big block of ads. Well it looked big to me, it was maybe 2-3 tall - but I felt it was enough to guarantee that people would get distracted from reaching the bio box which was my whole reason for wanting the article published!

            I can definitely understand AD owners needing to make money from their sites, but some of the ways they do it means the marketers won't be making money (or gaining traffic, subs, whatever they're aiming for) so there's no incentive to publish articles there.

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    • Profile picture of the author shirland
      Originally Posted by Terry Crim View Post

      Once you place content on someone elses site you lose all interest in that content. Make sure you read the TOS because depending on the wording you may have signed away your rights to that content. Don't believe me? read the fine print at many of the article directories, forum sites, blogs etc... Didn't read the TOS? Too bad, your out of luck then.

      Once you submit your content on sites you do not own, they can do anything they want to with it. Even publish it in print and bind it to sell in a bookstore. IF their TOS allows them to. But you say you own the copyright to your material you yourself wrote? Read the TOS on these sites that YOU submit content to, and by so doing submitting your content I mean, you agree to the legal mumbojumbo which in part or whole you agree to give up all rights to the content. Depends on the TOS and what it says.

      You don't like that they put ads around or inside your content... that sucks.
      LOL

      Sorry to hear that. Focus your content on the interests and desires of your readers, whatever niche that is. If it is good content people will ignore the ads to read what you have written.

      I don't know how you market yourselves but assuming you are using the bum marketing stuff with the quick or not so 300 or 400 word articles... This is what I would do. Feel free to ignore me if you already are doing this.

      I would plaster as many articles as I can to ANYWHERE. 30 to 40 sites a day. Assuming I already prewrote articles. I would setup my own sites and directories and also grab a group of you to join in the fun to do the same and we paste our content on each others sites, do some of that fancy skype voice or text and inteview each other and co-promote each other on the sites we jointly create seperately or together.

      Then I would continue to paste content linking back to these sites. Socialize it all on twitter, facebook etc...

      But they put ads in my article... blah! who cares, stop being dependant on a few sites. You know how many sites are out there you can tap into on ANY niche? If you would focus your efforts actually leveraging the internet you wouldn't give a rats ass.

      At least that is my opinion and view on this sad sob story that keeps coming up every now and again. Be dependant on one source for your marketing and you, well... I think you know how that goes.


      - Terry
      You are right, when you post your articles you give up certain rights. I did not know that they could put your articles in a book. I am new to article writing, I started only using 3 sources, but now I will subscribe to an article submitting service to get my articles out there even more and diversify. I will continue to write a quality article. I don't use just one marketing strategy so why would I limit my article span.
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      • Profile picture of the author abs007
        NO WAY!!

        I just checked it out and wanted to know how well a article was ranking for a affiliate product.

        Before I even got half way in the article the affiliate product name was mentioned a few times and it always points to a link. I checked it out and one is pointing to an affiliate link.

        This very wrong indeed. All the links are underlined and its without a doubt that the reader will click on one of the links before they get to read the bio.

        One way around this I think would be to write your affiliate product with a . in it somewhere

        for example aca.i burn

        I dont know what sort of affect this will have with the keyword ranking though

        cheers
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        • Profile picture of the author Kamran
          Thats why I only build backlinks to my articles sitting in website-articles.net,since they don't have any ads and the ctr is high, that way I make sure I receive full benefit from my hardwork.
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          • Profile picture of the author adamv
            Originally Posted by Kamran View Post

            Thats why I only build backlinks to my articles sitting in website-articles.net,since they don't have any ads and the ctr is high, that way I make sure I receive full benefit from my hardwork.
            I was talking to Allen about his directory yesterday. It looks awesome and I'll be using it real soon. With no ads and multiple resource boxes, the CTR must be off the charts.

            He said that the articles on his directory are ranking very well too, with a bit of backlinking of course.

            High ranking + High CTR = Big Traffic = Good $$$

            Are you having good results with his directory?
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            • Profile picture of the author Kamran
              Yep, it is possible to rank high if you build backlinks.
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            • Profile picture of the author bvna80
              Originally Posted by adamv View Post

              I was talking to Allen about his directory yesterday. It looks awesome and I'll be using it real soon. With no ads and multiple resource boxes, the CTR must be off the charts.

              He said that the articles on his directory are ranking very well too, with a bit of backlinking of course.

              High ranking + High CTR = Big Traffic = Good $$$

              Are you having good results with his directory?
              Hey did you ever tried to build links to ezine & see if did better than goarticles ..
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  • Profile picture of the author waken
    it's like visiting a HyperVRE site...lol
    But I've never use them for main marketing purpose as they approve even the most nonsense, gibberish, duplicate article. But they are good for backlinking purpose anyway.
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  • Profile picture of the author Allen Graves
    You could see this coming - I even said to myself a couple of weeks ago after seeing people praise the results of GA lately, hat they are going to screw it up for us.

    Happens all the time.

    They say the artcle is the give and the resource box is the take. They can do what they want with the article...the resource box is yours to maipulate.

    But if the readers never can get to the resource box because you can't find it or because you've already clicked away to some Adsense or sales site, then what's the point?

    Sad...

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  • Profile picture of the author captivereef
    ezinearticles is still the best, just put a good headline above the first paragraph in bold italics and people will still read read your articles. Just phrase the headline as a question like "Do You Want To Lose Weigh Fast"


    With this method I have a 25% CTR at ezinearticles with a pen name account that i opened right after the adsense layout changes.
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  • Profile picture of the author captivereef
    Also amazines.com does this in text advertising as well. They give you the option to shut it off. But even when i shut it off it seems to reappear after awhile???
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  • Profile picture of the author seriousmny
    I sent them a email. Hopefully they will reconsider their new policy. It always seems like when I am feeling good about something, it goes south. I'm afraid to ask about any suggestions for where to post next because I don't want that resource to dry up either. I guess folks from Go Articles come to the Warrior Forum too and thought that since they were being recommended they could go there. Let's make them feel like the flavor of the week and drop em like a hot potato. Thanks Adamv for the heads up.
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    • Profile picture of the author MStrocen
      See the post from GoArticles (MStrocen) in this thread on GoArticles' response to the various comments posted to date. As noted, the ad links are temporary and will be removed on or around July 3rd.
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      • Profile picture of the author adamv
        Originally Posted by MStrocen View Post

        See the post from GoArticles (MStrocen) in this thread on GoArticles' response to the various comments posted to date. As noted, the ad links are temporary and will be removed on or around July 3rd.
        That's good to know. I've been submitting more articles to goarticles recently and building a lot of backlinks to them. I was not happy when I saw the hyperlinks throughout the article but I will be happy to see them go.

        I'm glad it's only temporary because I have been getting very good results with goarticles and I would like to keep it that way.

        Thanks for the response.
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  • Profile picture of the author MStrocen
    Just a quick note to all members who have commented on the ad links that recently appeared in the body of articles on GoArticles.com. GoArticles is running a two week test of an ad link system as a favor to a major partner. The ad links system will be removed on or around July 3rd.

    A similar system was implemented about a year ago for monetizing the site and we found the return to be minimal and the aggravation to be major. GoArticles has no intention of ever implementing such a system in the future.

    Our thanks to the Warrior Forum member who brought this thread to our attention.
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    • Profile picture of the author Allen Graves
      Originally Posted by MStrocen View Post

      Just a quick note to all members who have commented on the ad links that recently appeared in the body of articles on GoArticles.com. GoArticles is running a two week test of an ad link system as a favor to a major partner. The ad links system will be removed on or around July 3rd.

      A similar system was implemented about a year ago for monetizing the site and we found the return to be minimal and the aggravation to be major. GoArticles has no intention of ever implementing such a system in the future.

      Our thanks to the Warrior Forum member who brought this thread to our attention.
      So the fact that you are helping some partner and screwing your author base for only a couple of weeks makes it OK?

      Not in my eyes, sorry.

      This pretty much shows exactly where your priorities are.
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  • Profile picture of the author millionairemoney
    I've stopped using them until my backlinks actually show up.
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  • Profile picture of the author zulfnore
    This is the very reason I stay away from "Article marketing". Those who run the directories are only in it for their own benefits. It is your articles that build their sites to such magnititude, give them high PR and therefore a high volume of traffic to from which they generate their income.

    Apart from the backlinks and a trickle of traffic, what are other benefits do you get as a "Goarticle" or whatever directory it is you build for them?

    There is some benefits for article submiter but with such stratergy the whole thing is further diluted to a point to ask "Is it really worth it?". I for one don't think its worth it, but then again thats my opinion
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    • Profile picture of the author jendoe
      Here's another reason why this is just plain silly...

      I went and randomly picked an article, just to see what everyone was talking about. The article is about improving your vision, and there's a sentence that starts with, "Ensure that you apply no pressure..." (i.e. to your eyes, so you don't damage them.)

      "Ensure" has a pop-up ad for "Ensure" - the vitamin rich beverage marketed towards seniors! :p Talk about not-at-all relevant! :p

      Glad to hear it's a temporary thing!
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      Glad it's temporary!
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    • Profile picture of the author Allen Graves
      Originally Posted by zulfnore View Post

      This is the very reason I stay away from "Article marketing". Those who run the directories are only in it for their own benefits. It is your articles that build their sites to such magnititude, give them high PR and therefore a high volume of traffic to from which they generate their income.
      Sorry, but that quote is a bunch of bullshit.

      Don't lay down blanket statements about people you obviously know nothing about, article directorty owners who DO care about our author base and getting them as much traffic, click-throughs and conversions as possible.

      Be careful when generalizing other internet marketers like that.

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  • Profile picture of the author seriousmny
    I have just received a response from Go Articles customer service and I would like to post it here. Here is my email and their response:
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    To Whom It May Concern:

    It seems Go Articles has decided to add links into the articles of your site. Just a word for you... the word is going out in Warrior Forum to discontinue submissions to your site due to this new practice. Although you have been a good source in the past, I and others like me are choosing to discontinue submissions as well. The whole purpose of article marketing as you know is to get the customer to come to a particular site after reading, but with the added competition of the added links, it is no longer beneficial to do so. If you would like read how people are feeling about this new policy, please read here:


    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...icles-wtf.html

    Response from Go Articles as follows:

    Monique,

    Thanks for the info.

    The links referred to in the Warrior Forum post
    are temporary. We are helping out a large co.
    test their ad link system for 2 weeks. The
    ad links will be removed on or around July 3rd.

    We'll post to the forum to reassure any Goarticles
    users that the ad links are only temporary.

    --
    GoArticles Support

    ******** Sorry looks like someone beat me to it. Just wanted to make sure you understood it was just temporary.
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  • Profile picture of the author JaySabree
    Hey Monique

    Thanks for going out there and finding out
    what these guys are up to.

    It's definitely an issue if this is going to be
    a continued trend!
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    • Profile picture of the author Hasan Barbary
      I just switched to GoArticles recently, and I must have posted right on the cusp. Two days my article was fine; then, the crappy in-text ads showed.

      However, I was motivated to switch in order to test placing a context-appropriate link in the very first sentence. This seems to be okay with them, and at least you get the first shot at CTR.

      Short of not using them at all, what else can we do?
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  • Profile picture of the author MavisAA
    Thanks for the heads up Adamv.

    I haven't had much joy with Go articles. I've found Ezinearticles to be very good and I love their service. They seem to rank above the other article directories on Google page 1?!

    Tip for all Warriors - you can direct link to an affiliate product using a top level domain you own and re-direct. It's allowed by Ezine. It's in their editorial guidelines and I've done it a few times and it's working great.

    Enjoy!
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    • Profile picture of the author Cali16
      Adamv, thanks so much for letting us know. Also, glad to know it is just temporary. However, it still seems a foolish move by GoAritcles, IMO, even if it is just temporary. Those kind of "experiments" or "favors" or whatever can quickly become very costly.

      Of course there are always two perspectives.... that of the article directory owner, and that of those who submit articles. But the article submissions ARE the life source of the directory, and let's face it, most likely at least 95%, if not 100% of those who submit articles there are doing it with the ultimate goal of getting the reader to their own site, or an affiliate site to make money. So, if the article directory starts doing things in an attempt to bring in more money, and as a result ruin it for the people who send them articles, they are shooting themselves in the foot it would seem.

      I think I will hold off on submitting some articles there that I've been working on until this runs its course. I would really hate links in my articles for products that I do not personally condone or endorse. I agree with Diane who said that's skanky!
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  • Profile picture of the author writergirlk
    How much will this even matter? I know that I barely click those. We want them to click OUR links ... my own clicking patterns indicate that I tend to ignore text link ads. But thanks for bringing this to my attention. I didn't realize they were even doing it!
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    • Profile picture of the author Eric Lorence
      Just a few things people need to remember...

      You still have access to your admin account, if you have a problem with ANY article directory, close your account, and delete those articles.

      Write articles for your own blog or sites, and don't submit to directories, if you have a problem with it.

      The owner of the site will make the final decision as how to monetize it, also here is an interesting word from EZA:

      https://www.google.com/adsense/stati...eArticles.html

      Don't act like your articles are "god's gift to the internet", your trying to make money too.

      Don't criticize another marketers income strategy when yours is based on the same symbiotic relationship.

      Time spent "ranting" about things beyond your control is useless, just use another site.

      We're all trying to stake our claim, and make our own choices.
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  • Profile picture of the author ezimedia
    HI

    This should not be the only article directory you should submit your articles to and I am not worried them doing it because I am sure they have publishers that go there to get new articles to post on their sites and blogs... then you will not have those ads in your articles.... plus I submit my articles to as many directories as I can...

    Thx
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    • Profile picture of the author juxter
      Hi,

      I am still new to all of this, but I'm wondering if all these links will somehow mess with the ranking of my keyword phrase in the search engines? Thanks.

      LJ
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    • Profile picture of the author Allen Graves
      Something sounds fishy to me.

      Those ads are run by a company called Affinity (Advertisers and Publishers Solutions by Affinity).

      Affinity is an independently operated subsidiary of Hostway Corporation a global leader in providing services over the internet, and one of the three largest independent hosting providers in the world.

      Here's a short list of their clients...

      - eBay
      - Wikipedia
      - Coca-Cola
      - FoxNews
      - Hershey's
      - Verizon
      - Disney
      - Sony/BMG
      - Comcast
      - More of the world's top companies

      They boast:

      - Averagely 20 GB of sustained web traffic served every second
      - Approximately 90 petabytes of data transmitted every year
      - Over 1,000,000 domains under management

      So my question is, why would a site like GoArticles.com be "doing a favor" for a company with clients and traffic like this? Seems Affinity would have the funding and resources to do their own R&D.

      I wonder what the deal is. It would be nuts for GA to do this for free. So how much are they getting to screw us around for a couple weeks???? That's what I wanna know.
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      • Profile picture of the author adamv
        Originally Posted by Allen Graves View Post

        Something sounds fishy to me.

        Those ads are run by a company called Affinity (Advertisers and Publishers Solutions by Affinity).

        Affinity is an independently operated subsidiary of Hostway Corporation a global leader in providing services over the internet, and one of the three largest independent hosting providers in the world.

        Here's a short list of their clients...

        - eBay
        - Wikipedia
        - Coca-Cola
        - FoxNews
        - Hershey's
        - Verizon
        - Disney
        - Sony/BMG
        - Comcast
        - More of the world's top companies

        They boast:

        - Averagely 20 GB of sustained web traffic served every second
        - Approximately 90 petabytes of data transmitted every year
        - Over 1,000,000 domains under management

        So my question is, why would a site like GoArticles.com be "doing a favor" for a company with clients and traffic like this? Seems Affinity would have the funding and resources to do their own R&D.

        I wonder what the deal is. It would be nuts for GA to do this for free. So how much are they getting to screw us around for a couple weeks???? That's what I wanna know.
        Nice detective work.

        Very interesting, makes me wonder if the "we're doing a favor" line was a bunch of B.S. or not.

        I know of at least on other quality directory that I'll be posting to soon.
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      • Profile picture of the author peter gibson
        Originally Posted by Allen Graves View Post

        Something sounds fishy to me.

        Those ads are run by a company called Affinity (Advertisers and Publishers Solutions by Affinity).

        Affinity is an independently operated subsidiary of Hostway Corporation a global leader in providing services over the internet, and one of the three largest independent hosting providers in the world.

        Here's a short list of their clients...

        - eBay
        - Wikipedia
        - Coca-Cola
        - FoxNews
        - Hershey's
        - Verizon
        - Disney
        - Sony/BMG
        - Comcast
        - More of the world's top companies

        They boast:

        - Averagely 20 GB of sustained web traffic served every second
        - Approximately 90 petabytes of data transmitted every year
        - Over 1,000,000 domains under management

        So my question is, why would a site like GoArticles.com be "doing a favor" for a company with clients and traffic like this? Seems Affinity would have the funding and resources to do their own R&D.

        I wonder what the deal is. It would be nuts for GA to do this for free. So how much are they getting to screw us around for a couple weeks???? That's what I wanna know.
        It's fairly simple to me. Goarticles is trying to find an acceptable way to further monetize their site, and this is an experiment. It is failing miserably, but none the less I can't really knock a webmaster for trying to make more money on a site.

        It may seriously be The Angela Effect. After all, it was on Angelas suggestion that everyone use goarticles to rank higher. Since her (and Paul's) backlinks are proving so successful I'm sure Goarticles has noticed ALOT of their stuff heading to the top of google. Most likely a significant improvement for them as well as the authors. It could be they just saw that google position spike as an opportunity to get paid.

        Having said that, this campaign is a total cluster#$%@ and more than a bit annoying. What makes it even more aggravating to a few around here is the fact that they were spending a lot of time ranking those articles.

        As for goarticles doing another company a favor? Nah, that's a load of horse sh!t. It is what it is. Let's hope their next attempt to monetize is a little less intrusive to their writers. Personally, I had already taken my articles down the moment I saw those nutter ads attached to my words.
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  • Profile picture of the author itsmyz4
    GoArticles had worked very well for me. I will definitely keep submitting to it!
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    • Profile picture of the author adamv
      Originally Posted by itsmyz4 View Post

      GoArticles had worked very well for me. I will definitely keep submitting to it!
      Even if they're filling your articles with hyperlinks and obliterating your CTR?

      I've ranked very highly, very quickly with goarticles but that doesn't mean squat if my CTR is in the toilet.

      If they remove the links from within the body of the articles I may use them again, until then I'll be submitting elsewhere.

      If Allen is reading this... I plan on writing a few articles for your directory today. I'm quite anxious to get started with it. It looks awesome.
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  • Profile picture of the author Allen Graves
    Thanks Adam. You'll be pleased with your results, I'm sure.

    Our author base doesn't want me to let the cat out of the bag, but we are quietly flying under the radar, kicking everybody's butt!!! LOL

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  • Profile picture of the author indemand
    A few days ago I was seeing added links in my articles and now they're gone. Hope they don't come back either.
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    • Profile picture of the author adamv
      Originally Posted by indemand View Post

      A few days ago I was seeing added links in my articles and now they're gone. Hope they don't come back either.
      The links have been gone for a little while now which is nice but it tells you that the possiblity is always there. I try to find lots of different ways to use the content I create so that if one place (ie. goarticles, squidoo, etc) does something that I don't like, I can easily move on and focus more attention elsewhere.
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  • Profile picture of the author mostphere
    It happen with Squidoo too, have you all notice it yet? This will distract our reader.
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