I bet my marriage on article marketing. Now I'm asking for help from people who've done it.

14 years ago

If you market an affiliate product where the commission is $2,000 then you will only need to make 1 1/2 sales per month to reach your acceptable goal of at least $100 a day, and you have a 6 week head start if you start now.

Go for big ticket sales. That's my two cents as a non-affiliate marketer.

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Zeus66

14 years ago

Can you honestly envision yourself writing lots of articles about different topics (many of them completely boring to you) every day? If so, and you should really soul search and be brutally honest with yourself before you decide, I would suggest becoming a freelance writer. With a bit of practice, you can train yourself to write 5-10 articles per day. Some people can even write that many in one hour, but the burnout factor has to be enormous at such a pace.

If you can do, say, 10 articles per day, which is at least reasonable, you can come very close to your goal of $100/day. The trick, of course, is getting the writing jobs. But that's where your consistency and ability to produce every single day is your best ally. See, a lot of buyers hire writers, only to get delay after delay and/or shoddy work. When a buyer finds someone who writes well AND produces consistently (on time), they often become fiercely loyal. Your worth to them then increases substantially and you just have to pluck up the courage to ask for a raise. You might start off writing 500-word articles for $6 or $7, but if you do it well and on time every time, you can sometimes ask and get a nice increase. More than $10/article is not unusual for steady writers. It's just hard to break into the market at that kind of rate.

Hope it works, whatever you decide!

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Amanda_Davis

14 years ago

If you're interested in freelance writing some articles, let me know your hourly or per-article rate

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MichaelHiles

14 years ago

No offense meant here Valorie, but if you had taken action in 2006 after a whole year of study, you wouldn't be in this situation.

I know that you can't go back and change it now, but this should be a lesson learned to any and all readers that you MUST take action.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by MichaelHiles

No offense meant here Valorie, but if you had taken action in 2006 after a whole year of study, you wouldn't be in this situation.

I know that you can't go back and change it now, but this should be a lesson learned to any and all readers that you MUST take action.

No one knows this better than me. I'm not offended at all.

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francesro

14 years ago

Valerie...you are not alone. I've been at it intensely for 6 months now. I too was seeking the perfect strategy (seems there are so many). I had a lens on cross tattoos created and monetized it. It was doing as poorly as several others I had and out of the blue it is ranking #1 in google search. I am ecstatic. Honestly I'm not sure what made it take off. I did a lot of the things I've been learning and finally google recognized it and I'm getting a lot of traffic. If you want to see it search Squidoo for About Cross Tattoos.

The point is knowledge is vital (keep learning) plus stay persistent. In a nutshell you must choose good keywords with low competition and get exposure either by way of articles, blogs or pay per click.

I don't think there is a magic formula for instant success by August although it's not totally impossible. This post is mainly to keep you encouraged but honestly I'm a little disappointed more experienced marketers haven't posted a tangible "helpful" reply.

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Amanda_Davis 14 years ago

Do I count as an experienced marketer? lol

I would recommend doing this:
-- writing your own articles to point to a sales blog with newsletter
-- freelance writing for some instant cash
-- create Squidoo lenses and other Web 2.0 sites for a fee

You can run a WSO for $20 offering your services - you should get a few sales and, assuming you do a good job, plenty of repeat business and referrals.
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- Amanda_Davis 14 years ago
  
  Be aware that affiliate marketing isn't great for quick easy cash. Especially digital products.
  
  People refund all the time, payouts take ages to arrive, some affiliate programs never pay, you have to reach minimum thresholds with each individual program, etc!
  
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  hamburglar 14 years ago
  
  You definitely have to be be concerned about the payout time since deadlines are important.
  
  I have never done affiliate marketing but with any business you must know the cash cycle. As in when do you expect to get cold hard cash in your hand. Sometimes the next day and sometimes it does not arise till 2 months.
  
  Some things to keep in mind as mentioned before.
  
  1) Building a website and business takes time and patience. Cannot be done fast
  2) So find avenues in which you can sell your services fast. Are you a good designer, article writer. What services can you offer right now that will bring you cash?
  
  Start offering those services here on WSO or other online places.
  
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  with affiliate programs you usually have to wait until after the refund period to get paid. Often this can be 60 days. Then you usually have to wait until the next payout, which could be another 30 days or so. And that's assuming there are no delays!
  
  With freelance writing or Web 2.0 creation, you get paid straight away (sometimes even half up front!)
  
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  affilcrazy 14 years ago
  
  Hi Valorie,
  
  OK this is the feeling i'm getting from you. "Desperate times call for Desperate Measures". However, this isn't always the case.
  
  It's good you have a plan and although i haven't seen One Week Marketing, as it's by Jennifer, i guess it's gonna be great!
  
  But, you are putting yourself under a lot of pressure. I can tell that obviously life isn't a bed of roses for you, but the more pressure you put yourself under, the less likely you are to perform well.
  
  ..And if you want to succeed and get somewhere close to your target, you must perform at your best. I know it's easier said than done, but just try and relax a little.
  
  From what i understand, your talents lie in writing. I agree with John's principles above. If you're a writer and a good writer at that, there's always people looking for content!
  
  I noticed from your plan of action with the One Week Marketing you intend to make a squidoo lens and write a few articles. As i have never read One Week, i'm not sure if this is what you have been advised to do. But i have always approached affiliate marketing teamed up with article writing as something that requires quality and quantity!
  
  It depends how well you research your subject, but often i spend a day or two researching a project. I get all the free stuff i can on it. Newsletters, free ebooks, articles...basically i just immerse myself in my new found subject. This day or two will also include keyword research.
  
  I normally find that by day 3, my mind is brimming with ideas and thoughts, so i just start writing. I don't put a number on it, that will just hold me back and make me lazy! I just write as much as i can, while the information is fresh in my mind. I also like to pick niches that interest me, so i am more likely to add my own personal thoughts and feelings within my articles.
  
  I have found that i could quite easily spend days 3 and 4 writing anywhere up to 50-60 articles. As John mentioned above you will feel a little burnt out, but i then know i don't have to do any writing for a few days, as my next few days are spent putting those articles to work.
  
  Perhaps i might package 10 of them up as a free report. Within the free report i have my site's url on most pages, perhaps promote an affiliate product, whatever comes to mind. Then use another 10 to make a couple of squidoo lenses, a few more for a hubpage and then submit 5 articles a day to EZA.
  
  While waiting for the articles to be approved, i start re-writing the 50 articles and submitting them to other article directories. Bookmark everything, ping everything....and then do it all over again!
  
  I know that if i have researched a topic well enough i can do most of that within 7 - 10 days. Take a day off and then start the process all over again!
  
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  Originally Posted by Amanda_Davis
  
  You can run a WSO for $20 offering your services - you should get a few sales and, assuming you do a good job, plenty of repeat business and referrals.
  
  The Warrior for Hire section works, too. Really, really well. I made a LOT of money there before I got placed on retainer by a regular client.
  
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MJ Schaefer

14 years ago

I want to re-iterate what Amanda said. Affiliate marketing can be devilishly hard, much harder than people think.

People hear terms like 'articles', 'Squidoo', 'Clickbank' and think it is really as cookie cutter as all that. In reality, you need to pick the right niche, the right keywords, the right product to promote, and create the right sort of article. If you choose to capture names with an autoresponder, well, there's a few more variables you have to get right, too.

There is no question that article marketing can be used for long-term financial rewards. But if it is a straight issue of needing cash in the bank, the freelance route really is not a bad one. As another poster said, if you can get yourself a couple of regular employers who like your work, they will be loyal -- and that is guaranteed cash in the bank.

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tdpubs

14 years ago

Valerie, I am a student of Sean Mize and I'll tell you what I learned. Making money is like bodybuilding. You have to do the work consistently every day at least five days a week and treat it like work. I have my office in my home and have two school aged boys. It's tough to get anything done if you aren't a self-starter.
If you are starting from scratch and have an EZA account, log in to your account and click on the "View My Author Rankings" go down the headings and find a few that you feel confident in writing articles of exactly 400 words (Ok, about that much.).
There should be a fair amount of articles already written in that category for you to do a Google search on the keywords. What you will do next is research the keywords in that niche and collect at least 10 -20 good ones. Your goal is to dominate that category.
You won't see the current stats in a category that you have not written in yet so find one in which you can comfortabley pursue and start writing. Once you have accepted articles, check your position and accept the fact that you must reach the top 10 position in a popular category in order to make consistent money there. You may have to write 100 or more articles in your category to reach critical mass but that's how success is made.
I've never found a better solution to making consistent money than working hard and smart. Good luck,
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Tracey_Meagher

14 years ago

If you can write, I would recommend creating niche review sites, lots of them. Writing product reviews is a great way to affiliate market and if you choose your niches carefully, create enough of them and put some serious effort into SEO you may well achieve your target by August.

One review site a week gives you about 10 very nichey review sites by the end of August. You would only need each to generate $10 a day to achived your goal.

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rapidscc

14 years ago

Hi valorie,

why don't you build a lot of squidoo lenses and offer them up for sale.

If you can build lenses, drive traffic, and add earning modules in them I'm sure several people will be interested if you sell it as a WSO.

Try building 20 per niche and package them, then repeat.

While it's not yet sold, you'll get to keep the affiliate commission if something sells also the squidoo royalty.

just my .02

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The Expert 14 years ago

My suggestion is that you get signed up as either an Amazon or Overstock affiliate. EPN is hard to get into right now.

Get either phpZon or phpOstock and build some stores with Wordpress. The first one will be a nightmare time-suck. After that they get easier and if you are as dedicated as you say, you can put up 10 sites p/week.

The schedule is 6hrs of Keyword Research on Saturday and then putting up and promoting 2 sides p/day Mon-Fri.

Wash/rinse/repeat.

If you do your keyword research right and you'll average (on a BAD day) at least $1.00 p/day per site in 60 days after the launch of each site. That's $3,000 p/month.

Acutally hammering hard and putting the sites up is the trick...but once you have it you can pretty much count on that revenue stream every month.

Is three months of hard work worth it to you?
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gyar29

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Valorie

His boss went back on his agreement to lay my husband off. He told the Dept. of Labor my husband quit. Which he did, with the understanding the boss would say he was laid off. So my husband who trusted me is having to do paint/body work from our farm, and he's all worked up about money.

Valorie,
Perhaps your husband's boss realized that he would be culpable in a felony if he were to falsely report that he layed off your husband. Additionally, as an employer he pays for "unemployment insurance" through a tax. Reporting that an employee was laid off when they actually quit is not in his best interest. The more people that qualify for unemployment insurance the higher the tax employers pay for that insurance.

The money to pay for our social safety nets never grows on trees. Someone must always pay for them. Fraudulently collecting payments from these safety nets always costs someone money. Usually taxpayers. And in this case, just the employers that pay the tax.

That is why doing so is against the law!

Originally Posted by Valorie

Also, to add to the "back against the wall" feeling, I started a blog about my efforts, and then actually publicized it. (see sig. it seemed like such a good idea at the time

) We live in a really little town. I don't think I can stay here if I fail completely. I mean, $300 a day by August is a huge goal, I will feel like I've succeeded if I'm making $100 a day by August (and that will almost equal my husband's take-home pay). Way worse than having to move though, is the chance my marriage won't be able to take this. My husband is supporting me now, but I've got to start showing him results.

What a testament to the state of our society that the reason you may have to move from your small town is that you may not be successful at IM. You would be embarrassed by that fact. Yet you, and it appears the people of your town, see nothing wrong with you and your husbands attempt to perpetrate a fraud. So much so that you feel no compunction at publicly publishing that fact.

It is obvious that you did not know what you were trying to do was illegal. It is obvious that you did not know what you intended to do was detrimental to our society as a whole.

You and your husband are probably good people who just did not know any better.

And that is the sad state of affairs that our society is in.

Valorie you should go next door and thank your husband's ex-boss. He may have saved your husband a slew of trouble that he did not know would be coming his way.

Take Care and Good Luck,
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Bruce Wedding

14 years ago

If I were you, I'd remove the part of your story where your husband tried to illegally collect unemployment insurance.

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Valorie

14 years ago

Bruce Wedding, and gyar29, you are correct. He actually did us a big favor. As people who have been hard working our entire lives, we appreciate your concerns.

Everyone, you gave me great advice. I was a journalism major in college, I do love writing, in all it's forms. I haven't done a lot of freelancing because I was worried about being able to make the deadlines. If I book carefully, though, I should be able to meet deadlines.

I was not factoring in the wait time to get paid with affiliate programs. I also wasn't thinking about the dollar amount of affiliate commissions.

Affiliate income is stuck in my mind, because the lure of "do the work once, then collect the money for years," is just so strong. Right now if I want to keep afloat, it looks like I should be freelancing almost 100% with my time. I'm not ready to give up on my own article marketing yet.

I do appreciate everyone's advice.

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writergirlk

14 years ago

NOTE: Where did all the links come from? I didn't put them in - the site did. Why?

Let's say you work 8 hours a day. I would spend 4 hours working on stuff for clients. In the beginning, ALL of that time should be spent bidding and looking for clients. You can cover a lot of ground promoting yourself in four hours. For the first two weeks, you might not get a response - but then it will come in look a flood.

Sign up for and bid at

--- Outsource to Freelancers, IT Companies, Programmers, Web Designers from India, Russia, USA, and more - oDesk
--- Rent A Coder: How Software Gets Done -- Home of the worlds' largest number of completed software projects

Both don't require a membership fee. RAC takes a commission. I am not sure how odesk takes their fee. And, this is very important - place bids on every single project you see that looks doable. It may come out to ten or more bids a day. You may write 100 bids before you even get a nibble, but don't give up. Work your tail off to get that first client.

Before you bid, sign up at Associated Content and get some articles up. Select performance pay so they go up right away. Right about twenty on a range of topics. This is now your portfolio. Research the keywords - you may want to keep up posting articles in this manner. You'll get paid their performance pay monthly.

Bid Template

Restate the project. (I understand you're looking for a writer to complete 20 articles on flooring.)

Give your bid. (My bid is $100 for the project.)

Give your experience. (As a content producer I am well versed in writing articles about home improvement and other topics. I have a BA in English... etc etc. In addition, I have a lot of experience doing home improvements, as we just renovated our house.) Only say that stuff if it's true! But it helps to bring real life into your bid.

Give your portfolio link. (Check out this link for samples of me articles)

Talk about the project. (I can have this project completed within a week of bid acceptance. Thank you for your consideration.)

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This process should take one hour - an hour and a half. With the rest of the time, do some or all of the following:

-- create an author website - reserve your name as the domain. Put links to articles you've written, any testimonials, a list of your services)

-- use the writer for hire section here. Give your site link to people for more information.

-- visit freelancewritinggigs.com for today's best job leads and apply to a few. visit problogger.com's job board.

-- sign up at eHow and write a bunch of keyword rich articles. Once you have 100 - 300 articles in the system, the income will build up nicely.

-- write queries to magazines. Writing for DOLLARS! has a newsletter with markets. Sign up for it.

-- create PLR articles and sell them on warrior

YOUR NEXT FOUR HOURS

-- work on your IM stuff - article marketing, etc.

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See, this is a good plan because one will give you more immediate income, the other will give you affiliate income. I did it this way for years and have recently phased the client work out to work on IM exclusively. I still write, though - just not for clients. I may start doing PLR - I don't know. I've been resisting it.

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Valorie

14 years ago

Originally Posted by kohuether

See, this is a good plan because one will give you more immediate income, the other will give you affiliate income. I did it this way for years and have recently phased the client work out to work on IM exclusively. I still write, though - just not for clients. I may start doing PLR - I don't know. I've been resisting it.

This is great nuts and bolts advice, thank you. I resisted the idea of freelancing, because I tend to be a black and white thinker, you know, it's either A or B, no in between. Now I'm starting to see that I don't have to choose either/or. I thank you!

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writergirlk

14 years ago

You're welcome! See with this plan, you have A half the time and B half the time. Once you start getting clients, just spend 1 hour of the 4 promoting and finding work, and three hours doing the work. Once the affiliate income starts getting steady, gradually phase out client work. My approach wasn't as organized - but it's essentially what I did. I just didn't have a time line. I did client work for years and simply burned out.

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JohnATX

14 years ago

I would buy a PLR product or come up with your own, build a blog and promote it like crazy. Sounds difficult but I do it all the time and it works quickly and effectively. I'd be more than happy to coach you.

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writergirlk

14 years ago

A lot of your links don't work. I wanted to leave a comment, click on the links in the sidebar, etc but I got an error every time. All I can do is read posts on the home page and not click anything.

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Valorie

14 years ago

Originally Posted by kohuether

A lot of your links don't work. I wanted to leave a comment, click on the links in the sidebar, etc but I got an error every time. All I can do is read posts on the home page and not click anything.

It's my hosting company. Can you recommend one that will make it so I can make my blogs writable? This hosting company, if you want to make the blog writable, you create your own .htaccess file and paste the code from wordpress into it, and upload it yourself. I must not have done it right. I think it would be easier to move to a different company. I saw a tutorial once where the cpanel had Fantastico, and it looked like magic to me!

Thank you for checking out my blog!

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oregongal 14 years ago

Hi Valorie,

I like BlueHost, which is what I use and they do have Fantastico.

As far as affiliate marketing goes, that is what I do. I do free blogger blogs, squidoo lenses, and have some Wordpress blogs with my own domain name. I use the blogger blogs and squidoo lens to point to my Wordpress blogs to help build links and traffic.

I also do a lot of article marketing to get traffic and links. Yes, it's good to link to your articles - and to your website. You can make writing one article as effective as writing 2 or 3 if you work on getting links to it.

You can certainly use your writing talents for freelance, and that could be a good idea, especially if you leave yourself some time to do your affiliate marketing, which is what seems to appeal to you.

It is important to spend time getting traffic. I assume you are interested in the free methods. Submit your RSS feeds, submit to social bookmarking sites, leave comments on blogs in your niche, visit forums and contribute valuable information in your niche (hopefullly with a link to your site in your signature or profile). YOu can go to Yahoo answers and answer questions and leave a link to your site (not in every answer tho, or they will detele your answers!). Visiting forums and Yahoo answers will also give you an idea of what problems or questions your potential customers need help with and help you focus on filling those needs.

I don't mean to go on and on since I'm just trying to give you an idea of how to make the most of your affiliate marketing. You can make some simple review sites where you present a view of a particular product (maybe from Clickbank?) and then you don't necessarily have to keep building that site, just send traffic to it. If you get a lot of interest then you may want to spend more time in that niche.

I hope this helps you a little.......
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AmyBrown

14 years ago

I'd suggest you read everything you've posted on this thread as well as on your blog and ask yourself if this is how you want to portray yourself and your business. My opinion is that it does not portray you in a positive light to put it mildly.

For hosting I use and recommend Hostgator. I believe the baby plan is $7.95 if you pay for 12 months or $9.95/month and includes unlimited domains. They have cpanel with fantastico, many tutorial videos and I've had good support the few times I've contacted them.

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Valorie

14 years ago

Originally Posted by AmyBrown

I'd suggest you read everything you've posted on this thread as well as on your blog and ask yourself if this is how you want to portray yourself and your business. My opinion is that it does not portray you in a positive light to put it mildly.

Amy

I was trying to convey to people that it wouldn't be a waste of their time to help me out. Let them know I was in a bad situation, why I was so motivated, etc. In retrospect, I should have put this post in the test forum and slept on it. (Funny, because sleep has been hard to come by lately) I would have kept it more business related and less personal.

I watched John Reese say in a video, fail at a faster rate. I managed to fail in amazing fashion with this thread, yet I've learned a lot that will help me in the future.

I appreciate your input, both on my thread and your recommendation for a hosting company.

-Valorie

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Harry Behrens

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Valorie

I watched John Reese say in a video, fail at a faster rate. I managed to fail in amazing fashion with this thread, yet I've learned a lot that will help me in the future.

You have the right attitude Valorie. I also just now failed spectacularly with an idea for a thread I tried to make happen. It didn't and I felt really down about it for about 5 minutes but you know what? You keep going, because when you are doing stuff you will ALWAYS do some stuff badly and always wish you could take back certain things, but if you keep your eyes and ears open and learn from it, you can only get better.

My future threads will be all the better for my mistake, and I'm sure your business attitude and strategy will also improve just as much (if not more).

About hosting, I also use HostGator, they are *awesome* in my opinion, and perfectly suited for WordPress and pretty much any server software you'd like to run (until you start getting into really advanced stuff at least). They also have hands down the best customer support and I can't remember the last time I had a problem when I wasn't able to start chatting with a support person within 5 minutes.

Another I could recommend for cheapness and stability would be 1and1, only they do not come close to matching HG in their level of support service.

Good luck and don't get down about the thread or about anything else, you'll do fine.

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Valorie

14 years ago

Originally Posted by hmbehrens

You have the right attitude Valorie. I also just now failed spectacularly with an idea for a thread I tried to make happen. It didn't and I felt really down about it for about 5 minutes but you know what? You keep going, because when you are doing stuff you will ALWAYS do some stuff badly and always wish you could take back certain things, but if you keep your eyes and ears open and learn from it, you can only get better.

My future threads will be all the better for my mistake, and I'm sure your business attitude and strategy will also improve just as much (if not more).

Good luck and don't get down about the thread or about anything else, you'll do fine.

Thanks. I was sitting here thinking about it. I could get all upset and run away from this forum and what I'm trying to do. Or I can learn and pick up the pieces and move on. I'll pick up the pieces.

The mistake I've made here is survivable. I'm a human being, susceptible to emotional acts, and bad choices, like everyone else. What I've really learned is that, if I'm going to be a business person, I need to think of every post I make in that light. "Is this post going to help or hurt my business efforts and the image I want to portray?"

Learning that now might have saved me big heartache down the road.

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Barry Walls

14 years ago

I think you should be charging $20 per article in 2 months as a freelance writer. 15 day is pretty easy. In addition, you probably have a lot of knowledge after 3 years study and could easily earn $300 a day consulting in IM. I'm not a huge fan of bum marketing. As a % of the number doing it, not many people earn lots of money from it.

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Valorie

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Barry Walls

I think you should be charging $20 per article in 2 months as a freelance writer. 15 day is pretty easy. In addition, you probably have a lot of knowledge after 3 years study and could easily earn $300 a day consulting in IM. I'm not a huge fan of bum marketing. As a % of the number doing it, not many people earn lots of money from it.

Barry-
Thank you for your response. I have been interested in your ideas since reading your comments in a very "exciting" thread. I've been doing some snooping around with regards to your online course.

Writing is the part of all of this that I absolutely love. To make a living wage with writing would be a dream job for me. As for IM consulting, I would be a fraud if I told people "do this to make money", because while I've read and understood the theories, I haven't made them "fact" in my own IM efforts.

-Valorie

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Harry Behrens 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Valorie

Barry-
Writing is the part of all of this that I absolutely love. To make a living wage with writing would be a dream job for me.

Do a search for Jenn Dize and her ghostwriting course (it's in her sig), it's right up that alley and Jenn definitely knows her stuff from what I've seen.
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Barry Walls

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Valorie

Barry-
Thank you for your response. I have been interested in your ideas since reading your comments in a very "exciting" thread. I've been doing some snooping around with regards to your online course.

Writing is the part of all of this that I absolutely love. To make a living wage with writing would be a dream job for me. As for IM consulting, I would be a fraud if I told people "do this to make money", because while I've read and understood the theories, I haven't made them "fact" in my own IM efforts.

-Valorie

Yes Val..I know the thread you're referring to. High octane stuff.

$300 a day shouldn't take you long...well within your time period.

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Robert Boduch 14 years ago

Valorie...

You've received some really great advice here. I particularly like the plan kohuether suggested for you.

You can use your background in journalism to your advantage to carry out this or a modified plan that suits you. The only thing I would add is that you begin to document everything you do from this point forward. I have no doubt that you will succeed if you follow the suggestions in this thread. And once you do, you'll have a terrific story to tell... and a product to sell over and over again.

Best of success to you!

Robert
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SurviveUnemployment 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Valorie

I was trying to convey to people that it wouldn't be a waste of their time to help me out. Let them know I was in a bad situation, why I was so motivated, etc.

Valorie, nobody cares about you. They care about themselves. Make it about them.
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- Valorie 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by SurviveUnemployment
  
  Valorie, nobody cares about you. They care about themselves.
  
  This is some good advice, it's what you learn when you study copywriting. People want to know how something/someone will benefit them. I wish I had remembered it yesterday.
  
  By the way, your name and subhead gave me a nice laugh. I'm glad to see you survived unemployment.
  
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Izesta

14 years ago

No way are you dumb Valorie. You were smart to ask the question.

Lots of good replies here for you. Hope they are helpful.

Here's my 8 cents.

I truly believe that one of the major reasons for Internet failure by newbies is having to go it alone. Learning and doing everything in isolation. Despite the vast amount of tools online, there are many of us who do not fare well when learning is relegated to the computer. IM encompasses so much stuff. We need to know how to do a ton of things.

If I can add a suggestion to your mix of tips. See if you can find a live buddy - even a live phone buddy who wants to accomplish similar goals. The 2 of you work together. Bounce off ideas, share what you've learned, etc. Perhaps even get 2 other people.

People lose weight better and faster in groups. There is no reason it can't work in business. It will also help keep you motivated.

Best of luck and success.

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