CB Leaks, Definition What are they?

by JSammy
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OK, I'v done a bit of research here and elsewhere on leaks, but I am looking for a definitive response. Yes, I'm very noob

OK so in a nutshell, i pulled this off a site on leaks:
Sales Page Leak - Make sure that page has no-opt in box or pop-up. Why ? Opt-in service is leak which takes user away from your browser cookie and if they make sales after reading mail or newsletter then your effort of driving traffic is completely wasted. Also make sure there are not about us, affiliates,contact us, free-trial page or other links at the bottom of sales page, these links also drive users away from the sales. You have to filter all these leaky sales page products or ask for alternate sales page in your clickbank redirection by contacting vendor.

Got it. Now pardon my ignorance but, the page you are taken too is that supposed to be more like "See what the product it is and buy" ?

What about "Join Now", "Members Login" "sign me up now" "etc....

Contact section seems to be on every page, but that's a leak also? What are the general odds of asking for a different landing page?

I guess the better question is, what is the frame work of a page I Should look at? I have looked at quite a few items and they all thus far have one of these....

Keep looking?
#definition #leaks
  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Strictly speaking, as far as ClickBank sales pages go, a "leak" is anything that has the potential to give the product's vendor the affiliate's prospective customer's email address before the product has been bought and paid for and the affiliate's commission earned.

    In reality, there are "gross leaks" and "trivial leaks".

    A sales page with a vendor's opt-in box on it is one of the "grossest" ones, and almost no serious, pro-affiliate will dream of sending their traffic to such a page. (One or two vendors may perhaps dispute this statement. I'd ignore them. Be careful what you read about this specific point: there's really a lot of misinformation around - some of it well-meaning and just ill-informed).

    Countless affiliates explain in detail their reasons for this, in this fine thread (well worth reading slowly, all the way through): http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...oduct-opt.html

    Trials, depending on how they're done, can also be a form of vendor's opt-in. (They don't have to be: there are better, less affiliate-losing ways of doing them, too!).

    An example of a "trivial leak" would be the provision of the vendor's email address in tiny lettering at the bottom of the sales page. Nobody's going to let that prevent them from promoting the product (and ClickBank likes to see it there, anyway).

    And then there are "payment leaks": these can also be very serious or slightly less serious. (Example: after clicking on the "buy now" button on the sales page, the customer is given a choice between paying through ClickBank or by PayPal - no sensible affiliate is going to choose to promote one of those: you'd lose a high proportion of your sales commissions).

    Originally Posted by JSammy View Post

    What are the general odds of asking for a different landing page?
    A different "sales page", you mean.

    I don't know the general odds. I offer my own: I've asked for a different sales page a total of eight times, and been provided with it six times. (On two of those six times it already existed, but the vendor had - bizarrely - chosen not to mention this in his Marketplace listing, on his Vendor Spotlight page or on his product's affiliate page!).

    I strongly suspect that it's like everything else: it depends how you ask.

    "How to ask", I think, would be more or less the same way as "How to ask for a review copy": http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post3641838

    Originally Posted by JSammy View Post

    Keep looking?
    Always.

    For five years, I spent 20-25 minutes per day looking. (That's a lot of hours, but it's a hugely important factor in whether or not you earn a living. One of my well-trained VA's now does the "first looking" for me and sends me a short-list of not-obviously-disqualified pages to look at, myself. This costs me a few dollars but saves me a lot of time. There are over 15,000 products to look at, on ClickBank alone! ).

    Product selection is very time-consuming and very important. It's one of the many things that are a significant part of the difference between overall success and overall failure: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post2161932

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    • Profile picture of the author JSammy
      Thanks for response Alexa. I knew you would have responded. Quite frankly my questions arose from following your info
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      • Profile picture of the author JSammy
        Lastly, in talking to a vendor on there sales page, there is sign up section for 3 day trial. When I questioned this, here is the response:

        If you send traffic to the free trial page, they sign up and move onto our email autoresponder where we convert them to the sales page and they purchase a subscription. Your ClickBank cookie is dropped on the free trial page when they first visit that page. And it's alive for 60 days. Our emails go for 60 days too, working hard to get the sale. So yes, commission is paid if you send people through the free trial and they convert to the paid product.


        The free trial page is part of the sales page. Thoughts?
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        • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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          Originally Posted by JSammy View Post

          Thoughts?
          "They will say that, won't they"?

          ClickBank uses a "most recent cookie gets the sale" method. If the vendor has the email addresses of your subscribers/potential-customers before those people pay, you have no way of knowing whether they ever send out fresh hoplinks/cookies that will effectively overwrite yours just by being "more recent".

          They invariably say they don't do that, natch.

          But some independent research once showed that 85% (of a randomly selected cross-section) of them actually did it.

          And ClickBank allows them to do it, too (and to be fair to ClickBank, they have to do that, effectively, because they'd have no possible way of "policing" it if they said anything different, would they?).

          "Your call!"

          (Some people believe, and will tell you, that you can reliably check this out for yourself, by subscribing as a potential customer and seeing what you get sent by email. This perception is actually an entirely mistaken one, for all the reasons explained in some detail in this fine thread: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...oduct-opt.html ).

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