CB ticket system woes

by wb1
5 replies
What's up guys? I am a CB vendor with a few sites in the CB network. I recently noticed that ClickBank has "upgraded" to a new ticket system. I don't know about you guys, but this thing is starting to become a pain in the neck.

Here is basically what is happening. A customer requests a refund. According to CB, the system now allows an opporunity to save the sale. I use the opportunity to save the sale by contacting the customer directly (not with the ticket system), and when everything sounds ok I make a note in the ticket & close it. Then CB, not the customer, comes back reopens the ticket so it can be process as a refund, because the ticket was originally a refund request.

So in reality what can we do? We can't tell a customer NO you can't have a refund. And if a customer is actually looking for support and not a refund, the system only adds that much more of a burden on the part of the publishers. It might not sound like such a big deal but using the ticket system is just one extra uncessary step that doesn't add any convenience for publishers, and is not necessarily easier for customers either, especially when you also have customers contacting you directly via email. And now, with the new upgraded system, we have to keep up with two systems instead of one (CB tickets and regular emails). It's not necessarily that its hard to use the system, but I think my point is that CB used to be a transparent system and it seems like they are increasingly becoming much more obtrusive. I find this a bit annoying especially when CB sends email receipts that virtually shout to the customers "click here for a no questions asked refund", and refunds are 100% automated.

Ok, so its clear that I don't find this system to be helpful whatsoever. I know that refunds are often justified, but there are also many potential customers out there that have the mind set that "I can just buy this and request a refund". In my view CB has done nothing to combat this problem, and have only added to the problem with the new cleverly disguised but completely automated system. Anyone who is a CB publisher knows the issue of refunds has always been a problem.

But then again, CB doesn't refuse refunds so what's the difference? They might as well automate it for themselves..... :confused:

What do you all think about this? Does anyone actually like these changes or found a way to use them to your advantage?
I'd be very interested to know how other publishers are handling handling these changes with CB....

- wb1
#system #ticket #woes
  • Profile picture of the author LB
    I posted my dislikes as well. For numerous reasons it has made my life more difficult as a vendor.

    It seems to me that Clickbank will benefit from it as their support is now less "hands on" for them. Personally I hate it.

    Additionally, unless I'm missing something, you can no longer search transactions that are more than a year old. That is a HUGE change that was never mentioned anywhere.
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  • Profile picture of the author wb1
    I have considered rerouting all customer support through ClickBank but I don't find this helpful. Not all customer support requests are related directly to Clickbank and/or the sale. I don't need clickbank monitoring all of my potential business transactions through their mandated ticket system. So no matter how you look at it, I either one: Go all the way with clickbank and allow them to view other intricate details of my business that have nothing to do with the sale, per se, or two I have to continue to maintain two systems, one which is slightly more private, and deal with the fact that CB is indeed becoming more obtrusive and irritating.

    And for the record, I don't sell your typical get rich quick ebooks which seem to dominate clickbank. I have digital product in a niche where I am trying to build a relationship with the customer and instill confidence in my site. While I know we all have this goal despite what we sell, the whole CB ticket system takes away the personal touch and to me smacks of a big brother style monitoring system which is more counterproductive than anything else.

    Of course there is the third option... Search for another affiliate network. But in this sense I will very literally be losing my active affiliates (whom CB always hides their contact data, not that I can't find them from the referring sites, however) and starting all over from scratch. Who knows if those affiliates will want to follow?

    So now its become an issue of conform or lose out. This really irks me
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  • Profile picture of the author LB
    I have considered rerouting all customer support through ClickBank but I don't find this helpful. Not all customer support requests are related directly to Clickbank and/or the sale. I don't need clickbank monitoring all of my potential business transactions through their mandated ticket system. So no matter how you look at it, I either one: Go all the way with clickbank and allow them to view other intricate details of my business that have nothing to do with the sale, per se, or two I have to continue to maintain two systems, one which is slightly more private, and deal with the fact that CB is indeed becoming more obtrusive and irritating.
    I agree.

    I get a fair share of tickets daily across all my CB products in my own support systems. The majority are simply people who need help opening a PDF or have other questions directly related to my products. I think routing them through CB is confusing for the customer and could also possibly make it appear to CB that my products are generating too much support.
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  • Profile picture of the author GarrieWilson
    I think it's junk.

    I had a refund request and went to close the ticket, expecting to have an options like;

    1. Solved
    2. Refund

    Nope. It closed and emailed the client saying "the vendor closed the ticket. if you are not satisfied and want a refund, reopen the ticket." (paraphrased)

    Then I had to re-open it and tell them to refund it. Why have a ticket system if I can't just click refund and let the buyer know?

    I also think the wording on the closed email, will cause a lot of saves to be re-lost.

    Sometimes I wonder if ClickBank has anyone who knows marketing working there. It seems as they don't and they just tell a programer to make something w/out considering the buyer and vendor experience.

    Garrie
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