Flippa Alternative or Use?

ideasuniversity

16 years ago

Originally Posted by ebiz26

dealasite.com is quite good for selling websites and its free.

digital point is also good.

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Arunabh Singh 16 years ago

Originally Posted by ideasuniversity

digital point is also good.

Digital Point is not a very good place to sell websites. I hardly see anything sold there.
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TycoonRob

16 years ago

So are Flippa and Sitepoint related? Flippa to me seems like a cheap knock-off that is WAY overpriced, like a kid who installed a script or something. You can't create auctions on SP anymore?

EDIT: holy crap - their pricing is terrible! Isn't Kate Anderson going to start a similar type of site? Highway robbery.

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Matt Mickiewicz

16 years ago

Originally Posted by razztek

So are Flippa and Sitepoint related? Flippa to me seems like a cheap knock-off that is WAY overpriced, like a kid who installed a script or something. You can't create auctions on SP anymore?

We'll definitely be tweaking the site (including a new logo), and working through the usability issues being brought to our attention.

You can keep up to date with all the changes at flippdotcom . wordpress . com which is getting updated daily with a list of all the improvements we are making.

Happy to hear any constructive, specific, feedback & suggestions that you have as well.

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TrafficGuy Claude

16 years ago

Flippa.com totally destroyed a great marketplace. I guess the Sitepoint guys got greedy. I absolutely hate it!

The eBay.com site marketplace has always been decent for selling established and starter sites.

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Biggy Fat

16 years ago

Here are a few alternatives and my comments on them:

Digital Point - STAY AWAY. Digital Point is the land of the scammers and they're cheap. You won't get what your site is worth.

eBay - If you can stand out from the 90% garbage that is there you can do it big on eBay. But often times you won't get what it is worth, though it may still sell.

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John Hixson

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Biggy Fat

Here are a few alternatives and my comments on them:

Digital Point - STAY AWAY. Digital Point is the land of the scammers and they're cheap. You won't get what your site is worth.

eBay - If you can stand out from the 90% garbage that is there you can do it big on eBay. But often times you won't get what it is worth, though it may still sell.

Which leaves us still asking the question - is there anywhere else?

Flippa is full of bugs and even if they clear those up there are plenty of other issues - not least the fact that the pricing structure destroys all profit margin from start up websites

Sitepoint had the traffic but frankly I don't see this taking off and even if it does (still possible with the traffic they are generating - I assume) there is still a huge gap in the market for selling those smaller sites that you no longer have a use for, or start up sites. $30 plus listing fees (which is the case on Flippa) is not viable profit margin wise.

I still think the likes of the Warrior Forum owners would do very well to consider setting up a rival, better laid out and priced, website selling site. It has the traffic of both the people who sell and the people who buy - and it could turn into a very profitable business stream for them.

(I would like to temper this with the fact I am new here so it could be well known why the WF would be less than keen to try set something like this up).

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Harry Behrens 16 years ago

Originally Posted by Biggy Fat

Digital Point - STAY AWAY. Digital Point is the land of the scammers and they're cheap. You won't get what your site is worth.

DP isn't THAT bad, the reason it seems worse than it is is because for some reason the culture over there is to do all the "serious" sales exclusively through PMs and make it almost invisible to the public. So what ends up visible on the forum is mostly the 'crap'. But you do need to be pretty knowledgeable before you wade in there though, it is not a 'newbie's market' like eBay can be.
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Diana Lane

16 years ago

You can already sell websites here, in the Classified Ads section. I know this because I've done it once before, although it was a while ago. Granted, this isn't it's sole purpose, but it gets plenty of traffic and there's no success fee, just the price of listing. It's probably not ideal but it's still better than many of the alternatives.

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MHavoc

16 years ago

Matt,

The main feedback is go back and re-implement the old marketplace and just improve it rather than trying to get the users who got you here to come on board with something that they had no say in...... It's constructive, specific, and, of course, it's just my suggestion. I know, unfortunately, it won't be listened to because the very fact of you went this direction says alot. I do wish you luck and I have always been very thankful for the great work you have done at Sitepoint. I just wish you would have included us in the process way earlier.

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Kezz

16 years ago

LMC who's a forum member just started a new marketplace and I really like the look of it so far. I intend to put a site up there tomorrow.

Here's the link if you want to take a look: SiteDeal.org

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Powertreb

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Kezz

LMC who's a forum member just started a new marketplace and I really like the look of it so far. I intend to put a site up there tomorrow.

Here's the link if you want to take a look: SiteDeal.org

Wow. Why isn't SiteDeal getting more traffic and attention. I just listed a site on Flippa for the first time and am regretting it so far. I didn't think there were many alternatives.

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Marhelper

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Powertreb

Wow. Why isn't SiteDeal getting more traffic and attention. I just listed a site on Flippa for the first time and am regretting it so far. I didn't think there were many alternatives.

Why on earth would you dig this up 1 year later????? You must have looked pretty hard for this, I don't get it?

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Powertreb 15 years ago

Originally Posted by Marhelper

Why on earth would you dig this up 1 year later????? You must have looked pretty hard for this, I don't get it?

Better question is...Why would you respond to that if it's a year later

I put "Flippa" in the search box, and clicked on one of the first results. Nothing hard about that.
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IMKing

15 years ago

I would prefer the moniker and snap name auctions and their marketplaces, if you can get into their auctions then you will get good offers but only problem getting into their auction is tough, only high quality domains will be accepted. Anyway just have a try..

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tc7

15 years ago

Hey,

I don't know why everybody thinks that flippa is not good. Maybe some of you never tried it. I did and the result was, that i managed to sell my 8 months old website with $5300. If you want to sell your site successfully on flippa or on any othe website selling platform, you will got to be prepare to give as much info as you can and proof that your site makes money, you got affiliates, you have a good product etc.

If you think that selling a website is different than selling anything else, you are going in for a big surprise. If you want to sell a car, for example, you will have to proof to the potential buyer that the car is great, it doesn't have any problems etc. Selling a website is similar to this.

Hope this helps.
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owol

15 years ago

You guys hatin' on Flippa haven't sold any passive income sites there. I list sites in unstable niches when they're at the peak of their profits, and people buy them for 12-24 months profit (more than it's worth, FOR SURE)... and all my buyers are always super happy.

It's nice to sell $20-40k projects right before they stop making money. You can sell anything on Flippa; people with too much money looking to invest right there.

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FellowWarrior

15 years ago

Originally Posted by owol

You guys hatin' on Flippa haven't sold any passive income sites there. I list sites in unstable niches when they're at the peak of their profits, and people buy them for 12-24 months profit (more than it's worth, FOR SURE)... and all my buyers are always super happy.

It's nice to sell $20-40k projects right before they stop making money. You can sell anything on Flippa; people with too much money looking to invest right there.

That's for the newbie buyers with more money than brains.

It's like you are saying people couldn't see the peaks and think the peak is sustainable. You need to prove sustainability to sell the site at their peak value.

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HN

Banned 14 years ago

Originally Posted by owol

You guys hatin' on Flippa haven't sold any passive income sites there. I list sites in unstable niches when they're at the peak of their profits, and people buy them for 12-24 months profit (more than it's worth, FOR SURE)... and all my buyers are always super happy.

It's nice to sell $20-40k projects right before they stop making money. You can sell anything on Flippa; people with too much money looking to invest right there.

In other words, it's nice to rip of people? Maybe that's what screwing the marketplace? I've always wondered why would anyone sell a site for 12 months profit unless they terribly need money fast or are trying to rip someone off.

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TryBPO

14 years ago

Originally Posted by HN

In other words, it's nice to rip of people? Maybe that's what screwing the marketplace? I've always wondered why would anyone sell a site for 12 months profit unless they terribly need money fast or are trying to rip someone off.

Hey HN,

I can't speak for the guy you were quoting...it sounds like he's blatantly bragging about ripping people off. I did want to give you some reasonable reasons for why people would sell sites for 14-18 months revenue though...even if they're still climbing in passive, monthly income.

We sell networks of sites on Flippa that have passive income to help fund the creation of more sites. When we first started creating sites, there was an up-front cost associated and we didn't start to realize that revenue until months down the road as they started getting ranked, getting clicks, etc. (Not to mention, AdSense is Net-30 on payment)

We're now looking to EXPAND to creating and building out more sites...but to do that, we'd have to come out of pocket. Even though our initial sites are making money and are profitable...if we want to double or triple production, it would cost us more than we're making. We COULD wait to expand until months down the road...but it would take much longer to achieve growth.

Instead, we've chosen to sell off SOME of our sites, so that we can fund the creation of more sites from the profits we receive on those sales. We're simply reinvesting that up-front cash into long-term passive income. Because of this, we try not to sell off more sites than we NEED to sell to expand to the level we want to be at....does that make sense?

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raj5151

15 years ago

compare to digitalpoint ebay is good i think

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14 years ago

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ManieE 14 years ago

I will be checking it out, thanks
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- vicse1784 14 years ago
  
  Hi guys,
  
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TryBPO

14 years ago

Alternatives to Flippa might be great...the problem is that the buyers don't exist...so even if it's FREE to list my sites there, it's just a waste of my time. Good eBay alternatives had the same problem years ago when everyone was trying to copy their success. I tried quite a few of them...no buyers though!

Want to prove me wrong? I hope you do!

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DamenRabat

14 years ago

Originally Posted by TryBPO

Alternatives to Flippa might be great...the problem is that the buyers don't exist...so even if it's FREE to list my sites there, it's just a waste of my time. Good eBay alternatives had the same problem years ago when everyone was trying to copy their success. I tried quite a few of them...no buyers though!

Want to prove me wrong? I hope you do!

Yes, sadly, though. Flippa could really use some co-competitors that balance them out.

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sbucciarel

Banned 14 years ago

Originally Posted by simmonsmike7

Main reason being probability says my site won't sell on Flippa since over all not many sites are selling on Flippa.

Let's discuss.....

Where else has stats like this?

1,233 ListingsOpen Now
5,057 BidsLast 7 Days
$312,019 SalesLast 7 Days
59% Websites SoldLast 3 Months
$52,976,200 SalesOverall

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Mike Hlatky

14 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

Where else has stats like this?

1,233 ListingsOpen Now
5,057 BidsLast 7 Days
$312,019 SalesLast 7 Days
59% Websites SoldLast 3 Months
$52,976,200 SalesOverall

This thread is 2 years old so I am guessing that Flippa wasn't as big back then

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talashme 13 years ago

As this thread is 2 years old,
And many alternate links mention here are not valid now, but Flippa looks really good.
So far with all my research Flippa is doing good and getting better now.
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savvybizbuilder

13 years ago

Just stick on Flippa.

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UMT

13 years ago

Flippa will scam you if the get the opportunity.

For Buyers
Flippa offers you NO security. If someone claims a site is earning money and in reality it isn't the only thing Flippa can do is ban the seller. If you do not do your due diligence then you are held responsible.

PayPal will not refund the money and once an Escrow payment has been accepted all the seller has to do is withdraw the money.

For Sellers
As a legitimate seller on Flippa I expect them to have my back when things go wrong.

A few weeks ago I had sold a site for $500 The site was 6 months old and the domain was 11 years old.

After the transfer of the files and domain and then answering a load of questions from the buyer he decides that he no longer wants the site and requested a refund. His excuse was I thought the website was 11 years old. I had set the "claimed site age" to 11 years old. Me being stupid I did not even notice that the domain age and site age were different things.

So I decided it was fair for me to offer the refund, but only if the buyer paid the success fees and the listing fees. He refused so I had to seek advice from someone.

A guy called Thomas who is a broker on Flippa stated that it was my fault and I should take the hit and forfeit the fees. Basically he was saying that I should refund the buyer in full and still give flippa the $49 in fees because it was my mistake.

To me "success" fees means when I have successfully sold a site, but I guess they do not see it like that. Currently the site is being relisted and I'll need to pay more success fees.

Before I had even refunded the site an official representative called Andrew said that he would refund the listing fees if I refunded the buyer, but guess what that was an outright lie aswell.

After talking to Thomas, Andrew, and sent flippa 4 messages I have finally given up. That $49 is not worth the amount of stress I have gone though.
It was never about the $49 it was about if I do the right thing is flippa going to support me? The answer is NO. No wonder why flippa is full of scammers.

Conclusion
Flippa are not only ripping people off, they are also charging outrageous fees for doing near enough nothing in terms of support.

IMO it should be easy for a competitor to come along and dominate the website selling niche.

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Petrovpeteski

13 years ago

I do wish there was a good alternative to flippa but so far online it's been one of the only places I've made a nice little bit of upfront money on I suppose it's a good place to start for noobs who can hack together a site but it's not good to buy from thats for sure

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AnnaSEO

13 years ago

Trust me,Flippa is worst.A Buyer can cheat you.A seller can f**k you.You don't have any security there except they will keep raising the fees every few months.Huge Huge Fees.

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Sumdor

13 years ago

I tried selling my site on Flippa, but when the $19 listing fee came up... I cancelled it and am trying at dealasite.com ... It's a great site for startups.