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9 years ago

Yea when they start that bull crap They go on my auto delete and get sent to deleted items I don't like it and wont stand for that.

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Sarevok

9 years ago

I've learned over the years that different email marketers have different business models.

In this particular case, the email marketer in question has a very aggressive email marketing model.

Maybe they find that the more they email, the more they make.

I typically mail my list a few times per day TOPS, but I could name several "very successful" marketers who mail WAY MORE than I do even haha.

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If I could give you something that helped you... And improved your life... Would you mind if it happened several times per day? (I think 90% of all humans would say "Hell no").

But, if I gave you something that totally sucked... You wouldn't even want it even once right?

Food for thought.

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Dan C. Rinnert

9 years ago

Originally Posted by kindsvater

Many of the marketers are sending multiple emails today. One has already sent 5 today and it just hit 10 am my time.

Are these lists you subscribed to? Because I get multiple eMails on WSOs from lists I never subscribed to.

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gcbmark20 9 years ago

Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert

Are these lists you subscribed to? Because I get multiple eMails on WSOs from lists I never subscribed to.

I have to agree to that.

I keep getting emails from spammers who don't even have the professionalism
to even invest in an email A.R. service.

It's just better for you to unsubscribe from as many lists that you feel don't
fit what you're looking for or cannot provide for the needs or wants that you
have.
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- nik0 Banned 9 years ago
  
  Definitely not what I want, I always unsubscribe when that happens, though I first do check out what they're promoting and soon enough (within a day) I know what it's all about and then it's instant unsubscribe.
  
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marax 9 years ago

Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert

Are these lists you subscribed to? Because I get multiple eMails on WSOs from lists I never subscribed to.

I've been getting emails from unknown people as well these days.
Reporting them as spam is my preferred choice of action.
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kindsvater

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert

Are these lists you subscribed to? Because I get multiple eMails on WSOs from lists I never subscribed to.

Yes, these are subscribed lists. Too bad Paul is not still moderating to nuke a few spammers.

Also, I would never, ever, ever, ever (you get the idea) subscribe to an IM newsletter without using a special email address that could not be discarded. Actually, I don't sign up for anything without doing this.

For example: in cpanel create a forwarder for emailx to be forwarded to your main email address. Sign up with emailx. If it gets spammed to death you delete the forwarder and that is it. The spam is dumped into a blackhole and you never see it again.

This is AFTER I report the spam.

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Lucian Lada

9 years ago

Originally Posted by kindsvater

For example: in cpanel create a forwarder for emailx to be forwarded to your main email address. Sign up with emailx. If it gets spammed to death you delete the forwarder and that is it. The spam is dumped into a blackhole and you never see it again.

This is AFTER I report the spam.

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Do you report the email you received in the email you specially created for this purpose or the forwarded email you received in your main inbox? Because if you report an email that is forwarded to you by your web hosting company, you're effectively reporting them, not the real spammers.

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kindsvater

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Lucian Lada

Do you report the email you received in the email you specially created for this purpose or the forwarded email you received in your main inbox? Because if you report an email that is forwarded to you by your web hosting company, you're effectively reporting them, not the real spammers.

No. What I mean is you subscribe to someone's list on AWeber with your unique email address. Later unsubscribe. Then, lo and behold, you start getting spam to that email address from someone you never heard of via GetResponse. You submit a spam claim to GetResponse and then, if needed, you can simply drop the email address so further spam is never seen.

This recycling of unsubscribes, selling emails, and spammers moving from service to service is unfortunately too common in Internet marketing.

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rossle 9 years ago

Ive seen this kind of business model before with affiliates.

Personally, its a big turn off for me

Wheres the value? Wheres the relationship, trust, authority?

For our "buyers" list who have bought our product, I mail them once a week with the latest health news from across the web. Its great content for them.

And I only pitch to this list once a month. Working very well so far.

I think that a lot of affiliates forget that a list contains real people, with real feelings and emotions. And they should be treated as such.
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nicheblogger75 9 years ago

Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert

Are these lists you subscribed to? Because I get multiple eMails on WSOs from lists I never subscribed to.

This happens to me all the time lately. The strange thing is that when I unsubscribe they are coming from top ARs like Aweber & GetResponse and I KNOW that I did not subscribe to these lists. Does anyone know how this is happening? I know that when I buy a WSO often times I have to subscribe to a list to get access to the download page (which I don't like to be MADE to do to get my product that I PAID for), and other times it seems I am automatically added to the seller's list. But those lists I know I am on. Could these people be selling my email or maybe using a form of co-reg?

As for marketers sending out 5+ emails per day, this has become a common marketing practice called "turn & burn" or "slash & burn", and I know many marketers who do it and have lots of success. The main reason why this works is because the marketer is adding more subscribers than he/she is losing every day. In other words, if a marketer loses 100 subscribers but adds 125 new subscribers to their list on any given day then this method will continue to work. So I guess you could say it's a numbers game.

Personally, I'm not a big fan, but as others have noted, there are many ways to run a business and this is one that seems to be working almost as well as relationship building. BTW, I have subscribed to the lists of several very successful marketers who are doing this.
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ldenning

9 years ago

I have a friend that does that, and they aren't all sales letters. They are reminders and this and that. I have to unsubscribe, even though I've bought a couple of his products. I know other people who have unsubscribed for the same reason, and I've wondered if I should tell him.

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thedanbrown

9 years ago

If you never receive any value from being on the list then unsubscribe...

I think 5 emails before 10am is definitely excessive though. Pretty easy decision to unsubscribe. Most smart marketers who send a lot of emails have a "weekly email" list that you can get on instead of unsubscribing.

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Happybidr

9 years ago

When that happens I either ignore them or Unsubscribe. Short emails tell me that they are SPAM. There's only one guy I know of offhand who has sent me short emails where I've clicked on the link and found any value. And even with him, I usually don't pay attention. Plus, the quick response with short, basically meaningless emails goes against every quality step that works for me and that I've been taught. What about building a relationship with the customer? Offering more of value than the hard sell? There's a lot of competition out there in Email Land. I can't imagine that works well, and certainly not more than the first day or two. Just because someone's doing it doesn't mean it works, for them or anyone else.

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stevenjacobs

Banned 9 years ago

yeah people that email that much are burn and churn.]

There is nothing wrong with this its just one biz model , you make a lot quickly and more turnover on leads.

Its more of a numbers game

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beasty513

9 years ago

I think that blasting your list multiple times of the day
may get people to pay attention, but it's effectiveness eventually wears off.

People might start unsubscribing due to so much clutter in
the inbox. Wouldn't blame them as I see people blasting messages
that has very little content but full of links.

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wa35

9 years ago

I always use throwaway emails which last 10 mins when opting in to any list. Very useful.

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Riki Stein 9 years ago

Originally Posted by wa35

I always use throwaway emails which last 10 mins when opting in to any list. Very useful.

Why would you do that? Sometimes it really pays to get onto some lists that have value to offer.

If a list is proving to be of no value, that's what the unsubscribe button is for.

I prefer to give the benefit of the doubt - y'know, innocent until proven guilty.
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GforceSage

9 years ago

If someone's name is associated with an email that comes my way more than once a day, I unsubscribe. No need to get anyone in trouble, just move on from anyone who floods your inbox.

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kindsvater 9 years ago

8 emails so far today pitching different IM products - 3:20 pm my time. Truly amazing.

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agmccall

9 years ago

I have a few of these emailers, I do not unsubscribe though, I stay on there list so they have to pay for me

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Brent Stangel

9 years ago

It's very interesting what we will accept.

I have a knife site (I collect) that I subscribe to. At least one email every day. If I visit the site it will increase to two per day. If I put something in my cart and leave the site it will increase to three.

Yet I stay subscribed, because I get all kinds of great money saving offers...especially on the products I show an interest in. I'm always curious when I open my email in the morning to see what "goodie" they are offering.

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Trey Morgan

9 years ago

Hit that unsubscribe button. I'm assuming that the marketers that are overly aggressive like that probably know how to get a lot of subscribers in a short period of time, so they don't care if you unsubscribe anyway.