From the Caribbean, want to sell this.

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I am from the caribbean, and I currently live here. One thing I noticed is that we have great handcraftsmen who do these beautiful leather sandals. I am interested in possible selling them online or to other resellers if possible.

I'm not sure thought, if customer want shoes like this or if it is just a novelty that we use here.

If it is viable I can see myself getting it from suppliers and selling it on etsy or to a reseller.

What do you think? The slipper looks like this below

http://www.blackmalaika.com/wp-conte...8117636934.jpg

http://devotism.com/wp-content/uploa...sandals-01.jpg
#caribbean #hand made #sandal #sell #shoes #slipper
  • Profile picture of the author kashifraza
    try etsy, how much will it cost including shipping to US?
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    • Profile picture of the author Caribgyul
      50 us including shipping to us.
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      • Profile picture of the author salegurus
        Originally Posted by Caribgyul View Post

        50 us including shipping to us.
        Try listing a few different styles on eBay to gauge the market...
        PS. I think at $50 a pop you're going to find it difficult to break into the US market.
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        • Profile picture of the author Caribgyul
          Originally Posted by salegurus View Post

          Try listing a few different styles on eBay to gauge the market...
          PS. I think at $50 a pop you're going to find it difficult to break into the US market.
          That is useful info because I don't live in the us. What price point do you think would make it viable?
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          • Profile picture of the author Jesus Perez
            Originally Posted by Caribgyul View Post

            That is useful info because I don't live in the us. What price point do you think would make it viable?
            There is always a market for every price point. Don't let one person's comment dissuade you from selling at that price. Test, test, test. Try selling at $60, $50, $40 and lower if you like. Then you'll know what resonates with your market the best. I can easily see them selling for $60 with the right marketing message and backstory.

            This is a good read about pricing: Predictably Irrational Chapter 2
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            • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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              Originally Posted by salegurus View Post

              I think at $50 a pop you're going to find it difficult to break into the US market.
              I must admit this was my first thought. I was actually expecting you'd say something more like half of that.

              Originally Posted by Jesus Perez View Post

              There is always a market for every price point.
              This is right in principle, of course, but I suspect that the other factors involved in "buying shoes online" (which I've done myself), when they're of "unknown manufacture" and coming from an "unknown vendor" may well, in this case, predicate against that price.


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              • Profile picture of the author Caribgyul
                Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

                I must admit this was my first thought. I was actually expecting you'd say something more like half of that.



                This is right in principle, of course, but I suspect that the other factors involved in "buying shoes online" (which I've done myself), when they're of "unknown manufacture" and coming from an "unknown vendor" may well, in this case, predicate against that price.


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                But it is hand made. The shipping is expensive as well cause it has to come from the caribbean, where I'm from.
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                • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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                  Originally Posted by Caribgyul View Post

                  But it is hand made.
                  Yes, I see that that may justify higher prices, if you can "present" the benefits of that well, online.

                  Originally Posted by Caribgyul View Post

                  The shipping is expensive as well cause it has to come from the caribbean, where I'm from.
                  I understand this; but that's not exactly a selling-point to the US customer, is it? Not when you're choosing to compete against other products to which that consideration doesn't apply?

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                  • Profile picture of the author Caribgyul
                    Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

                    Yes, I see that that may justify higher prices, if you can "present" the benefits of that well, online.



                    I understand this; but that's not exactly a selling-point to the US customer, is it? Not when you're choosing to compete against other products to which that consideration doesn't apply?

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                    I get what you're saying. It isn't a luxury item so I can't charge a premium for it. It's a sandal. Maybe if I brand it well, it would gain some recognition and have a place in this niche market. I have had encouragement on this so I will try to get the formula right.

                    To break into the us market is important. Just need to find the right balance between price and quality. I need to find similar products I can emulate I think

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              • Profile picture of the author Jesus Perez
                This is not theory. It works in real life. There is an upper and lower price point for all markets. Just look at the Ford and Ferrari's of the world or Casio and Rolex's. It's our choice where we want to be in that market.

                After some quick research, it looks like your pricing is perfect for Etsy. I even see some $262 sandals with 13 reviews. That's $3,406 in earnings from those 13 reviewers. There are probably more that never bothered reviewing.

                More leather sandals at Etsy.
                https://www.etsy.com/search?q=hand%2...als&ship_to=US

                There are people out there with lots of money that wouldn't think of spending less than $50 on leather, handmade sandals from the caribbean. Add a personal, heart-warming story about the caribbean community it's helping and the people that make it and you have a wonderful (and possibly viral) product. There are people that will purchase the product just to say it's hand-made in the caribbean.

                But again...I revert back to my old recommendation. Test different prices because you'll never know if $60 outsells $50 without testing.

                That said, those are beautiful sandals. And don't stop looking for shipping alternatives!
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                • Profile picture of the author Caribgyul
                  Originally Posted by Jesus Perez View Post

                  This is not theory. It works in real life. There is an upper and lower price point for all markets. Just look at the Ford and Ferrari's of the world or Casio and Rolex's. It's our choice where we want to be in that market.

                  After some quick research, it looks like your pricing is perfect for Etsy. I even see some $262 sandals with 13 reviews. That's $3,406 in earnings from those 13 reviewers. There are probably more that never bothered reviewing.

                  More leather sandals at Etsy.
                  https://www.etsy.com/search?q=hand%2...als&ship_to=US

                  There are people out there with lots of money that wouldn't think of spending less than $50 on leather, handmade sandals from the caribbean. Add a personal, heart-warming story about the caribbean community it's helping and the people that make it and you have a wonderful (and possibly viral) product. There are people that will purchase the product just to say it's hand-made in the caribbean.

                  But again...I revert back to my old recommendation. Test different prices because you'll never know if $60 outsells $50 without testing.

                  That said, those are beautiful sandals. And don't stop looking for shipping alternatives!
                  It's about marketing, marketing, marketing I reckon. Thank you for the encouragement. I know people like a story and ethical products. I can use that slant as well. You have given me sooooooo much to think about. I am grateful
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            • Profile picture of the author Caribgyul
              Originally Posted by Jesus Perez View Post

              There is always a market for every price point. Don't let one person's comment dissuade you from selling at that price. Test, test, test. Try selling at $60, $50, $40 and lower if you like. Then you'll know what resonates with your market the best. I can easily see them selling for $60 with the right marketing message and backstory.

              This is a good read about pricing: Predictably Irrational Chapter 2
              Thanks. I plan to test it on etsy and if I see there is a demand I would move it to its own website. Branding for me would look something like putting a face to the creator of the sandals, telling their story on the website and marketing it as part of my culture. I feel that is an effective way. What do you think?
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  • Profile picture of the author alvinhy
    I would suggest listing them on Ebay and Etsy.
    Etsy is more of a crafty website where people put their hand made crafts up there for sale.

    Once you have established yourself pretty well on there you can always start an e-commerce website to start selling online.
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    • Profile picture of the author Caribgyul
      Originally Posted by alvinhy View Post

      I would suggest listing them on Ebay and Etsy.
      Etsy is more of a crafty website where people put their hand made crafts up there for sale.

      Once you have established yourself pretty well on there you can always start an e-commerce website to start selling online.
      I think that is the best way to go too. There are a few other ppl selling similar products on etsy so I know customers can find it. Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author miklanderson2
    Would it be possible to sell them in the Caribbean to tourists? I'd imagine you'd have an easier time selling them at a lower price point as a souvenir people can take back home and show off to their friends. Selling them online for $50 is going to be a tough sell, but it's worth a shot if you have a compelling story and can position yourself in the proper market.
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  • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
    If they're hand made and high quality you might want to be looking for a distribution deal rather than trying to sell them one pair at a time retail. These kinds of items might do very well in upscale shops, especially if you have brochures and other marketing stuff that shows the people making them and gives some history on their tradition of making high quality sandals. Of course, this approach will require you have a lot of inventory.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brent Stangel
    If they're hand made and high quality you might want to be looking for a distribution deal rather than trying to sell them one pair at a time retail.
    This is what I would suggest.

    Start looking for distributors who might be interested.
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    • Profile picture of the author Caribgyul
      Originally Posted by travlinguy View Post

      If they're hand made and high quality you might want to be looking for a distribution deal rather than trying to sell them one pair at a time retail. These kinds of items might do very well in upscale shops, especially if you have brochures and other marketing stuff that shows the people making them and gives some history on their tradition of making high quality sandals. Of course, this approach will require you have a lot of inventory.
      Originally Posted by Brent Stangel View Post

      This is what I would suggest.

      Start looking for distributors who might be interested.
      Won't that eat into the profits and make the product into a commodity rather than a niche product?
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      • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
        Originally Posted by Caribgyul View Post

        Won't that eat into the profits and make the product into a commodity rather than a niche product?
        No. You'd need to sell hundreds of thousands, if not millions before that would happen.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Hess
    I think you can get that price point... the fact that it comes directly from the caribbean lends itself to a lifestyle angle in the U.S. in addition to the handcrafted quality of the product itself. Free shipping is ALWAYS a selling point.

    Slapping up photos, posting available sizes, then sticking a buy now button on the page may not get it done.

    Take a look at what J. Peterman does with their catalog and product descriptions: The J. Peterman Company | Unique Vintage Inspired Women's and Men's Clothing, Apparel, Accessories, Luggage, & One-of-a-Kind Merchandise.

    Craft a story that goes with each style of shoe. Then when you ship the product, make sure you put some thought into the packaging to make it memorable (this doesn't have to be fancy, something rustic that says "yes, these actually came from the caribbean" will work.)

    TheBouqs.com does an awesome job with this also, they hooked me on the story the first time I visited their site. I order my wife flowers from there all the time now and each time she's impressed that they shipped from Ecuador and were grown on the side of a volcano.

    Just some food for thought if you're going to be moving forward with this...
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    • Profile picture of the author Caribgyul
      Originally Posted by Mark Hess View Post

      I think you can get that price point... the fact that it comes directly from the caribbean lends itself to a lifestyle angle in the U.S. in addition to the handcrafted quality of the product itself. Free shipping is ALWAYS a selling point.

      Slapping up photos, posting available sizes, then sticking a buy now button on the page may not get it done.

      Take a look at what J. Peterman does with their catalog and product descriptions: The J. Peterman Company | Unique Vintage Inspired Women's and Men's Clothing, Apparel, Accessories, Luggage, & One-of-a-Kind Merchandise.

      Craft a story that goes with each style of shoe. Then when you ship the product, make sure you put some thought into the packaging to make it memorable (this doesn't have to be fancy, something rustic that says "yes, these actually came from the caribbean" will work.)

      TheBouqs.com does an awesome job with this also, they hooked me on the story the first time I visited their site. I order my wife flowers from there all the time now and each time she's impressed that they shipped from Ecuador and were grown on the side of a volcano.

      Just some food for thought if you're going to be moving forward with this...
      If they were from any other place it might be harder to sell, so I have my culture to help me in selling them. And from there maybe I can expand to beaded jewelry and other rustic arts and crafts we have. It's really an interesting market. I shall be working on my confidence to try to be the one to bring it to the world
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