Look, Ma... I'm a scammer!

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This would be funny if it wasn't so lame.

Paul Myers Continues to Scam People Out of Thousands of Dollars - Free-Press-Release.com


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  • Profile picture of the author LMC
    Ha nice name drop with Bev... aren't you guys like best friends
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Mayo
    Wonder what Bev and Allen think of the PR?

    Paul, He must have you confused with the other Paul Myers and that MLM thing.

    We all know better...lol

    Have a Great Day!
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    • Profile picture of the author Killer Joe
      Is that the horrible stench of a law suit I'm smelling here?

      WTF is up with that garbage?

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    • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
      Maybe you need to change your name to "Not THAT Paul Myers".
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  • Profile picture of the author John Taylor
    Pounded Yam is part of the staple diet
    in many countries. Can we expect to
    see Pounded Yam on a menu near you
    Paul?

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  • Profile picture of the author rapidscc
    ouch! paul..

    The article even mentioned Bev...and Allen

    What are you planning to do with it?
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  • Profile picture of the author R Hagel
    Over the past few years it's estimated that Mr Myers has stolen around $600,000 dollars from fellow internet marketers through various pyramid schemes.
    That's a lot of beer money and dog food.

    cheers,
    Becky
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    Searching for the author's name - the "press release" is the second listing on google.

    Wonder who he really is????
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

      Searching for the author's name - the "press release" is the second listing on google.

      Wonder who he really is????
      I have my suspicions based on a conversation I had with another marketer
      a long time ago, but for obvious reasons I can't say anything here.

      Besides, I don't have any real proof. Just my suspicion.
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  • Profile picture of the author LMC
    Well at least you have this Paul:

    In case some press release demages your benefits or violate your rights in any way, please contact us and we'll remove it immediately.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve Taylor
    " To date there have been 150 official complaints about Mr Myers".

    They couldn't make it 147 or 197 complaints...ha, bad complaint marketing.

    Go get em Paul.

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  • Profile picture of the author SaSeoPete
    Shame on you Paul! With all your internet experience you have only scammed a measly $600k!
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    • Profile picture of the author LMC
      Originally Posted by SaSeoPete View Post

      Shame on you Paul! With all your internet experience you have only scammed a measly $600k!
      This is true... the accusations are unrealistic, I mean, if they said $12.6 million, then this would be more realistic
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  • Profile picture of the author Patrician
    Be sure to hit the spam button - there is a designation (radio button) to say this is 'not a press release and seeks to harm a legitimate business' (something like that) -

    Act Up
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    • Profile picture of the author Barbara Eyre
      Says the author is James Yam ... possibly of Canada (Canada is a text link next to his name). Hmmmmm.

      Is there another Paul Myers on this forum?

      Wonder what Bev thinks about this!
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    • Profile picture of the author Martin Luxton
      Originally Posted by Patrician View Post

      Be sure to hit the spam button - there is a designation (radio button) to say this is 'not a press release and seeks to harm a legitimate business' (something like that) -

      Act Up
      Fight Back
      Kick Butt and Take Names
      This one

      "The press release is not in fact a press release but an attempt to slander a business."

      So, somebody who hates Paul, Allen and Bev.

      Somebody with very sloppy thinking and not too bright.

      (his quote says Allen is doing the scamming but the body of the article says it's Paul).

      That must narrow the field down a bit.

      This puts me in mind of a mouse attacking a lion. Wonder who will win?

      Martin
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    • Profile picture of the author sevenish
      Originally Posted by Patrician View Post

      Be sure to hit the spam button - there is a designation (radio button) to say this is 'not a press release and seeks to harm a legitimate business' (something like that) -

      Act Up
      Fight Back
      Kick Butt and Take Names
      Yep, just did that.
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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
    wow..i really thought that's a joke site...
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
    The timing and some of the details make me think it's my old buddy, Julian Bates. He's not very happy with me right now.

    What do I plan to do about it?

    Use it as a teaching point.


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    • Profile picture of the author Eric Lorence
      That last line was quoted from a thread not too long ago when you got into it with a member with the initials A.M. as the user name.

      From what I remember...
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      • Profile picture of the author Aaron Moser
        Originally Posted by Eric Lorence View Post

        That last line was quoted from a thread not too long ago when you got into it with a member with the initials A.M. as the user name.

        From what I remember...
        Initials AM? Don't look at me I had nothing to do with it!

        Personally I'm dumbfounded why someone would stoop this low. I mean c'mon get a life!
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    • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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      Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

      The timing and some of the details make me think it's my old buddy, Julian Bates. He's not very happy with me right now.

      What do I plan to do about it?

      Use it as a teaching point.


      Paul
      You're wrong. It's Master Bates
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      • Profile picture of the author 4morereferrals
        Originally Posted by Metronicity View Post

        You're wrong. It's Master Bates
        LOL @ Malkie ... France suits you my friend.
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  • Profile picture of the author yourreviewer
    WTF was that all about? Is this a joke?
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      I don't know if it's going to help, but I've reported the press release as spam
      as an attempt to harm a person's business.

      Maybe if enough people report it, it will be deleted.
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      • Profile picture of the author Steve Taylor
        Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

        I don't know if it's going to help, but I've reported the press release as spam
        as an attempt to harm a person's business.

        Maybe if enough people report it, it will be deleted.
        Good idea Steven, I'll do the same.

        -Steve

        update...done
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  • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
    I still think it's funny. And there's no such thing as bad publicity.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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      I just hit the spam button on that release.

      It seems when you start doing the right things, in this business, you end up having to deal with crap like this. It is unfortunate but reality. Luckily, we don't have to let these people bully us around.

      I hope the person, who did the press release, is in the states so Paul can sue his ass. People have been sued for far less and won.

      Edited: I always knew Bev had to be watched. Dang that choco-holic blog queen.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kim Standerline
      I'd disagree with that statement strongly, especially when your name is bandied about the internet with the word scammer next to it.

      Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

      And there's no such thing as bad publicity.
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  • Profile picture of the author LMC
    The Press Release is turning into an interesting commented piece of literature.
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
    Bev's the one who told me about it.

    Aside from the fact that it's completely lame, this makes an interesting example. The big takeaway: Never take this sort of thing personally. If you do, you give the person who did it control of your reactions.

    Do you really want to put a child in charge of your decisions? If not, and someone points something like this at you, stop and think. What do they want? What does this really mean? What is the most productive response?

    Hint: Getting angry is NOT the right answer in every case.


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    • Profile picture of the author Barbara Eyre
      awwwww, so that means we can't bitch-slap? What a let-down!

      *chuckles*

      But you're so right. Just like bullying in school - if you let the bullies know that what they do affects you, they will just continue picking on you. If you let them know that it doesn't bother you, they'll stop out of confusion *grins*

      Regardless, that crap needed to be taken off ... hopefully the site will response quickly to our reports.
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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    Paul, I had no idea.

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  • Profile picture of the author Vince Courtney
    I just hit the spam button on that release too. I hope you can find this individual and crush them so they can't do this to others.

    Vince
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    • Profile picture of the author Ken Strong
      Come on, Paul, all you have to do to clear this up is answer yes or no: Have you stopped scamming people out of thousands of dollars?
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        • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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          I have been thinking of doing a press release on Kevin Riley. Sources have revealed that Kevin is running a hamster sweat shop in Japan. Yes, I also was saddened at the lengths this man will go to in order to make money online.

          I heard the hamsters work 20 hours a day with no breaks for wheel exercises.
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        • Profile picture of the author Jason Moffatt
          Originally Posted by TMG Enterprises View Post

          Rather too bad that some of the comments stoop to the same level as the original writer, though. I really hope that some of those were not left by Warriors.

          Tina G
          I left my comment with my real name. However, I tried my best to stoop a bit lower then the original writer.
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          • Profile picture of the author a1journo
            Originally Posted by Jason Moffatt View Post

            I left my comment with my real name. However, I tried my best to stoop a bit lower then the original writer.
            I loved your comment Jason - it was fricken awesome!

            (BTW, how much is your hourly charge? I have a green eggs and ham fetish.... )
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      • Profile picture of the author Darrel Hawes
        Originally Posted by KenStrong View Post

        Come on, Paul, all you have to do to clear this up is answer yes or no: Have you stopped scamming people out of thousands of dollars?

        Ken, you beat me to it...
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        • Profile picture of the author Michael Mayo
          Duh Moment for me!

          Do you have to leave a comment to see the other comments or is the
          read comments link invisible?

          ?~Michael
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          • Profile picture of the author Ken Strong
            Originally Posted by Michael Mayo View Post

            Duh Moment for me!

            Do you have to leave a comment to see the other comments or is the
            read comments link invisible?

            ?~Michael
            I see them -- they're down towards the bottom. You can only see the top two or three until you click the red down arrow at the bottom -- then it expands so you can see all of them.
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            • Profile picture of the author Michael Mayo
              Originally Posted by KenStrong View Post

              I see them -- they're down towards the bottom. You can only see the top two or three until you click the red down arrow at the bottom -- then it expands so you can see all of them.
              Lol...Ken, It's Not on my screen in IE.

              Maybe I need to fire up FireFox and check it. :confused:

              Thanks,
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              Edited: Found it. Had to take the www out of the url to make it work.
              must have been in my temp memory.
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              • Profile picture of the author Palo Coyote
                Paul,
                Your calm reaction and analysis is quite admirable. That your many friends, acquaintances and people who've read your newsletters and your posts here want to do the miscreant bodily harm only speaks to how much we care about you and your reputation. Your reputation is very much intact among the people who know you, and that's what counts. It looked like a Joke site at first, then it looked like a very immature attempt at...something. Many of the people on this forum care about Allen and Bev also and that's a good thing.



                I also reported it because that's a positive thing to do.


                Respectfully,
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              • Profile picture of the author melanied
                You're taking this much better than I would!
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                • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
                  Melanie,
                  You're taking this much better than I would!
                  That's because I'm not taking it personally. It's not about me. It's about someone's need for attention and a feeling of control.

                  Besides, I've always been fascinated by the behavior of obsessive psychos.

                  If they don't remove the "release," it will make for an excellent article for my newsletter. All sorts of useful lessons in it.


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                  • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
                    Dana,

                    The site is registered to someone in China. Might be something as simple as the time zone difference.


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                    • Profile picture of the author Dana_W
                      Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

                      Dana,

                      The site is registered to someone in China. Might be something as simple as the time zone difference.


                      Paul
                      I guess that's reasonable. All I can say is, if I owned a press release distribution site, and allowed press releases to go on there without anyone editing them first - I would make damned sure that there was a way for people to reach me or a site representative 24/7 in case of a situation like this.
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                    • Profile picture of the author kswr123
                      Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

                      Dana,

                      The site is registered to someone in China. Might be something as simple as the time zone difference.


                      Paul
                      Can we get them to IP trace the poster?
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                      • Profile picture of the author kswr123
                        Originally Posted by TMG Enterprises View Post

                        Your comment was rather funny, Jason. I just found one rather disturbing and I think it may be the one that another poster mentioned with the jail reference. That was just creepy, that's all.

                        I am looking forward to that issue, Paul. Might mean that we won't have to wait a month for more of your wisdom? I'm sure that will be an interesting read.

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                        Yer lol, that jail comment was disturbing... Jason, was that you as well?
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                        • Profile picture of the author Jason Moffatt
                          Originally Posted by Mubarak Waseem View Post

                          Yer lol, that jail comment was disturbing... Jason, was that you as well?
                          I tend to slang my mud in the open for all to see. However, I have been known to help jail a few criminals in my time.
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              • Profile picture of the author John Durham
                I don't personally have the cahone's for MLM, but even if it were true I'd respect you because my greatest inspiration "Randy Gage" is an mlm'r

                Thanks Paul, for helping with a simple solution to my prob by the way. You solved it in "One Line".
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  • Profile picture of the author Steven Fullman
    Look, I've got an entitlement mentality, 'K?

    That ******* Myers OWES ME A LIVING, ferchrissakes.

    He's always here preachin' his so-called 'wisdom'...

    ...But he ain't ever helped me none. No hand-outs. No freebies. No mentoring. Apart from some stoopid promotional crap he kept spamming me with until...well, until I stopped getting it....another example of a 'guru' holding back on the REAL secrets.

    The guy's faker than Posh Spice's last set of boobs...and even she gave them up...

    Next time I'm in Eerie -- whatever it's called -- you's mine, buddy.

    Yours in total jest,
    Steve

    P.S. Agreed. Lamer than aged horse.
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  • Profile picture of the author kswr123
    $600,000?!!?!

    Paul, how many tmes was the buy me a beer function used in your favour?
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    A tale of unrequited love...

    The Lolzer has been forsaken. He cannot exist without his Zen Redneck, his fascination, nee his very air...

    The Lolzer cries out, "It burns us... OH HOW IT BURNS US!"

    But no one is listening, especially the overlord, Dark Allen.

    The pathetic, miserable Lolzer shall never again know the joy of a kind word from his hero.

    The end.

    Stay tuned for Part 2 entitled, "A visit from the process server"

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  • Profile picture of the author Dana_W
    I'm waiting for the WSO by Paul on how to scam my fellow warriors out of $600,000. If he really cared about us, he would have given us the inside scoop by now. Although seriously, it should have read that he scammed them out of $597,997 to be more believable, and some photoshopped clickbank pictures would have helped.

    Why is it still online? That seems like a MAJOR liability for the press release distribution site.
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    • Profile picture of the author rapidscc
      Originally Posted by Dana_W View Post

      I'm waiting for the WSO by Paul on how to scam my fellow warriors out of $600,000. If he really cared about us, he would have given us the inside scoop by now. Although seriously, it should have read that he scammed them out of $597,997 to be more believable, and some photoshopped clickbank pictures would have helped.
      Whahehehe!

      Apparently, the one who wrote the press release hasn't been around WF for too long. Otherwise Clickbank pictures, proof of sales and testimonials would have been second nature for him..
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    • Profile picture of the author Anna Johnson
      Why is it still online? That seems like a MAJOR liability for the press release distribution site.
      Good question. Surely enough of us have reported it by now...
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  • Profile picture of the author Derek S
    This is bound to happen the more successful you become. If people didn't like to b!tch and make stuff up, I know a few celebrity magazines that would go out of business.

    The worst part is that this WILL impact your name and reputation to those searching for more info on you.

    He is stating "facts" and not opinions so you could sue him for slander if you have the energy (I know you probably have the time and money).
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  • Profile picture of the author red172
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    I think it was meant as a joke.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dana_W
      Originally Posted by red172 View Post

      I think it was meant as a joke.
      It doesn't strike me as a joke at all. It's libel, and a direct attack on several people's reputations with a lot of potential for harm.
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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
      No, Barbara, no bitch-slapping. If it IS Julian, he's already gotten pretty well slapped around by his (ex-?)ISP for posting racist and anti-Islamic hate messages and death threats.
      I think it was meant as a joke.
      The only joke is the author.

      Nice of you to join us...


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    • Profile picture of the author Diana Lane
      I left a comment and reported it as spam too. I mention this only to point out that comments do not appear immediately - obviously there is some moderation going on there. Why it is still up there then, when so many have reported it, is a mystery to me. I can only assume that the site owners have some kind of obsession with the inside of court rooms and can't see enough of them.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeff Henshaw
      I think it was meant as a joke.
      I think that is highly unlikely.

      A joke is a joke in the circle(s) that accepts it as such. Putting that sort of post where everyone in the world with an Internet connection can read it is just spiteful and malicious. Probably the poster has a grudge against the people named in the post.

      This seems personal.

      Just my thoughts.

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      • Profile picture of the author red172
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        Originally Posted by Jeff Henshaw View Post

        I think that is highly unlikely.

        A joke is a joke in the circle(s) that accepts it as such. Putting that sort of post where everyone in the world with an Internet connection can read it is just spiteful and malicious. Probably the poster has a grudge against the people named in the post.

        This seems personal.

        Just my thoughts.

        Jeff.
        Possibly, but when someone is well known you're likely to get all kinds of crap posted about you.

        Ive reported it as spam.
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      • Profile picture of the author ExRat
        Hi Ken,

        Hmmm... anybody notice how you never see Paul Myers together in the same room?
        Lol

        I reckon Paul Myers wrote it himself. He's such a publicity whore. Did you notice that there were no spelling mistakes? A real giveaway...



        (yes of course I'm joking)
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        • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
          Mubarak,

          Julian is the gentleman from the UK who got booted for making death threats to me, and several other people, on this board recently. He regularly creates new usernames and comes in to create trouble. And he just as regularly gets booted. He's had rather unpleasant things to say about Bev and I, among others.

          Brand new member account. Combined with the unusual mix of, "I think it's a joke," "Got what he deserved," and "Reported it as spam," that does make for an interesting coincidence, yes?


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          • Profile picture of the author red172
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            Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

            Mubarak,

            Julian is the gentleman from the UK who got booted for making death threats to me, and several other people, on this board recently. He regularly creates new usernames and comes in to create trouble. And he just as regularly gets booted. He's had rather unpleasant things to say about Bev and I, among others.

            Brand new member account. Combined with the unusual mix of, "I think it's a joke," "Got what he deserved," and "Reported it as spam," that does make for an interesting coincidence, yes?


            Paul

            Hey man I dont know who this Julian guy is but I wish you'd stop associating him with me ok?
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          • Profile picture of the author kswr123
            Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

            Mubarak,

            Julian is the gentleman from the UK who got booted for making death threats to me, and several other people, on this board recently. He regularly creates new usernames and comes in to create trouble. And he just as regularly gets booted. He's had rather unpleasant things to say about Bev and I, among others.

            Brand new member account. Combined with the unusual mix of, "I think it's a joke," "Got what he deserved," and "Reported it as spam," that does make for an interesting coincidence, yes?


            Paul

            Death threats?

            Ok, if he has been anti-Muslim (i think this was said earlier) AND made death threats, I already hate this racist, biggot.

            And if he continues to pop up then perhaps we should be worried.

            Can I ask why he makes death threats to you? Is it personal? Did you kick his Dog?

            Anyway, I 100% support getting this julian guy banned, and if possible sued.

            Red, I have a suggestion:

            You say you are not Julian, some people are wary of new members with suspicious posts....

            Post a photo of yourself as your avatar, change your name in your profile. Make some useful posts. Hey, is possible, post a video tutorial about something on Youtube and post it to the WF, and be sure to include your face

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            • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
              red172,

              I just said it's an interesting coincidence. And it is. If it's actually a coincidence, of course.


              Mubarak,

              Yep. Anti-Islamic, anti-black and anti-American, and quite inflammatory. All in separate threads, all on the same day. I tend to think they're just attempts to create trouble for the forum, rather than sincere beliefs. Still, with someone that unbalanced, you never know.


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              • Profile picture of the author kswr123
                Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

                red172,

                I just said it's an interesting coincidence. And it is. If it's actually a coincidence, of course.


                Mubarak,

                Yep. Anti-Islamic, anti-black and anti-American, and quite inflammatory. All in separate threads, all on the same day. I tend to think they're just attempts to create trouble for the forum, rather than sincere beliefs. Still, with someone that unbalanced, you never know.


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            • Profile picture of the author red172
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              Originally Posted by Mubarak Waseem View Post

              Death threats?

              Ok, if he has been anti-Muslim (i think this was said earlier) AND made death threats, I already hate this racist, biggot.

              And if he continues to pop up then perhaps we should be worried.

              Can I ask why he makes death threats to you? Is it personal? Did you kick his Dog?

              Anyway, I 100% support getting this julian guy banned, and if possible sued.

              Red, I have a suggestion:

              You say you are not Julian, some people are wary of new members with suspicious posts....

              Post a photo of yourself as your avatar, change your name in your profile. Make some useful posts. Hey, is possible, post a video tutorial about something on Youtube and post it to the WF, and be sure to include your face

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              I cant change my name nor can I post an avatar. I guess you need a certain number of posts for that. As for a video tutorial, I write articles for people Im not a marketer lol
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                • Profile picture of the author red172
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                  Originally Posted by TMG Enterprises View Post

                  I don't know whether this is all a coincidence or not, just as Paul says. However, for someone who is not a marketer, your replies to this thread and this one sure sound like a marketer and not just a writer.

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                  What I meant was I dont teach people how to make money online so doing a Youtube video about writing articles would be kinda boring.
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                • Profile picture of the author Michael Mayo
                  Tina now behave yourself....Manners Remember ;0

                  Jason, Man when I head out way west we'll have to get together and shoot the shit while downing a few cold ones(My treat)...lol

                  Thanks for just being you!
                  Have a Great Day!
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                  • Profile picture of the author Cali16
                    Paul, seriously, only $600,000???? I'm not buying any more of your WSO's if that's the best you can do as a scammer!

                    On a more serious note, I think you are handling this amazingly well. It is really sad when people stoop to this sort of thing for attention or worse. Hopefully it will be removed soon.

                    I hit the spam button too. I hope that helps!
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      Originally Posted by red172 View Post

      I think it was meant as a joke.
      Yeah but jokes shouldn't have such a damaging effect on the jokee, I don't think this was one bit of a joke.

      This kind of thing would never be able to happen offline, the internet can be a pretty dark place.

      Hope it gets sorted out soon.
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    Banned
    Maybe he got what he deserved.
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  • Profile picture of the author mmurtha
    Paul,

    What is it with you? You seem to draw all kinds of attention from all the wrong people.

    And this guy isn't real creative either lol.

    Here's something that might give you staisfaction without being sued - requires imagination to be effective:

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  • Profile picture of the author Derek S
    People I would not comment on the PR as it will just give it more google love, simply just report it as spam.
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    • Profile picture of the author Diana Lane
      Originally Posted by Derek S View Post

      People I would not comment on the PR as it will just give it more google love, simply just report it as spam.
      I would not comment on it either, but I did. I think I'll give up talking to myself - I never listen to a word I say
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      • Profile picture of the author John Taylor
        Originally Posted by Diana Lane View Post

        I think I'll give up talking to myself - I never listen to a word I say
        Pardon?

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      • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
        Wendy,

        This isn't about success or anything like it. It is, as Jeff suggests, personal.

        Does anyone find this comment...
        Maybe he got what he deserved.
        ... interesting, coming from someone who just joined today, and advertises article writing in his sig file?


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        • Profile picture of the author red172
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          Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

          Wendy,

          This isn't about success or anything like it. It is, as Jeff suggests, personal.

          Does anyone find this comment...... interesting, coming from someone who just joined today, and advertises article writing in his sig file?


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          Sorry dont know what you're talking about man. I write articles for a living, you are allowed to advertise your services in your signature arent you?
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          • Profile picture of the author mmurtha
            Originally Posted by red172 View Post

            Sorry dont know what you're talking about man. I write articles for a living, you are allowed to advertise your services in your signature arent you?


            Sure, you can advertise in your sig, but what did you mean by this statement?

            Maybe he got what he deserved.
            It looks suspicious to say the least, especially posted in this thread, when you know nothing about the man.
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            • Profile picture of the author red172
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              Originally Posted by mmurtha View Post

              Sure, you can advertise in your sig, but what did you mean by this statement?



              It looks suspicious to say the least, especially posted in this thread, when you know nothing about the man.

              Sorry just being sarcastic
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        • Profile picture of the author kswr123
          Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

          Wendy,

          This isn't about success or anything like it. It is, as Jeff suggests, personal.

          Does anyone find this comment...... interesting, coming from someone who just joined today, and advertises article writing in his sig file?


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          Please elaborate...
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          • Profile picture of the author Jason Moffatt
            Originally Posted by Mubarak Waseem View Post

            What is that supposed to mean? You can't just slam a new warrior without proof. Wait... Slamming someone and labeling them without evidence?

            That rings some bells....

            I think I'll read that first post again
            Hardly a slam. He said his comment was "interesting". Besides, Paul has earned a license to slam as far as I'm concerned.
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            • Profile picture of the author kswr123
              Originally Posted by Jason Moffatt View Post

              Hardly a slam. He said his comment was "interesting". Besides, Paul has earned a license to slam as far as I'm concerned.

              Ok, I guess so.

              BTW Jason. Hilarious comment. Stooping to this guys low is not something that I would have thought to have done, but it worked lol!

              Except, there a certain comment about jail that really made me worried...

              Anyone want to claim comment #9? ROFL
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            • Profile picture of the author red172
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              Originally Posted by Jason Moffatt View Post

              Hardly a slam. He said his comment was "interesting". Besides, Paul has earned a license to slam as far as I'm concerned.
              No one has a license to slam anyone on here, its against the rules.

              If my signature is a problem I'll remove it. New members sure are made to feel welcome around here :rolleyes:
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              • Profile picture of the author kswr123
                Originally Posted by red172 View Post

                No one has a license to slam anyone on here, its against the rules.

                If my signature is a problem I'll remove it. New members sure are made to feel welcome around here :rolleyes:
                New members should feel welcome here. I misconstrued what he was saying, and you probably did too. I reckon it was not a slam, just a comment about your post
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                • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
                  Mubarak,

                  Would you find it interesting, looking at that gentleman's profile and his comments, if you knew that Julian is an article writer?


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                  • Profile picture of the author kswr123
                    Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

                    Mubarak,

                    Would you find it interesting, looking at that gentleman's profile and his comments, if you knew that Julian is an article writer?


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                    Aha! I have no idea who Julian is, but yes, now I get it.

                    Well, Wagsy is an article writer. Obviously nobody would expect this of him, BUT...

                    How many times have we seen this in IM courses:

                    you must raise $10 for a domain, and $40 for a years hosting. If you do not have it, then why not write some articles? You can charge $10 per article if you are good at writing, and more for design
                    2 + 2, in this case, does not equal scammer
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        • Profile picture of the author WritingMadwoman
          Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

          Wendy,

          This isn't about success or anything like it. It is, as Jeff suggests, personal.

          Does anyone find this comment...... interesting, coming from someone who just joined today, and advertises article writing in his sig file?


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          Paul, sorry, I was referring more to your success on this forum - I guess success isn't the right word, more like stature? Reputation? What I mean is you are well-known and liked by most members, you've been around for a long time and you're not afraid to squash troublemakers. That's bound to earn you some enemies.

          Unless this one was made elsewhere, then just ignore me. I assumed it was someone you've tangled with here on the forum before.

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          • Profile picture of the author kswr123
            Originally Posted by WritingMadwoman View Post

            Paul, sorry, I was referring more to your success on this forum - I guess success isn't the right word, more like stature? Reputation? What I mean is you are well-known and liked by most members, you've been around for a long time and you're not afraid to squash troublemakers. That's bound to earn you some enemies.

            Unless this one was made elsewhere, then just ignore me. I assumed it was someone you've tangled with here on the forum before.

            Wendy

            Right! I'm willing to bet this guy is a member of DP or BHW, or a disgruntled member who you have banned.

            Paul, who have you banned lately, and for what reason. I fancy a game of cluedo
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  • Profile picture of the author Fernando Veloso
    Just reported the damn thing, what i don't understand i why is it live after so may reports.

    Maybe they're just part of snail team?
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  • Profile picture of the author Dana_W
    I seriously can not BELIEVE it is still online. You know, not all news sites are indexed by Google News...and my understanding, from people who own press release distribution sites, is that it is VERY important to Google that those sites have accountability - a way to reach the site owners, and a way to reach the person who wrote and published a press release. This seems like the kind of thing that could - and should - get a site removed from Google News indexed.
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  • Profile picture of the author willywa
    As a subscriber I know you will find an interesting way to make some cash out of this release. The release submitter is just helping you along...but I don't think they'll get that.
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  • Profile picture of the author DougHughes
    This whole thing is interesting. Curious human behavior in responses. A good study in sociology.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Moffatt
    I love how red172 spends his vacation time posting on the Warrior forum. Go snorkeling dude.
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    • Profile picture of the author red172
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      Originally Posted by Jason Moffatt View Post

      I love how red172 spends his vacation time posting on the Warrior forum. Go snorkeling dude.
      Well I would only Im about 50 miles from the nearest beach, plus I cant swim
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Originally Posted by Jason Moffatt View Post

      I love how red172 spends his vacation time posting on the Warrior forum. Go snorkeling dude.
      I wonder if he's spending his time vacationing in Canada...

      He seems to share "James Yam's" casual approach to punctuation, too. And he just discovered the forum the day after this release went live?

      Hmmmmm...
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    red - post an avatar ASAP - ask the mods to change your name
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnPal
    My Father, bless his Soul used to say:

    "He needs to be hanged by the balls and let stay to dry out!"

    I did push the spam button in there, and left couple of words as well!

    Hope it helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve Taylor
    What I don't get is why red172 is spending time on this thread as a new Warrior, when he doesn't know Paul.
    Lots of other threads to get involved in.
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
    Steve,
    What I don't get is why red172 is spending time on this thread as a new Warrior, when he doesn't know Paul.
    Curious, eh?

    If red172 is Julian, it makes perfect sense that he'd jump in. If he's not, it doesn't make much sense at all. The only other relatively new people members who've commented and with whom I haven't had previous conversations made comments that were sensible. One said he'd hit the spam button on the "release," one remarked on J-Mo's comment, and another said that he found this sort of thing interesting.

    None of these things are conclusive but, when viewed together, they do seem interesting.


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  • Profile picture of the author Bev Clement
    50 miles from the beach Red172 isn't that far so which is the nearest beach to where you are?

    I got a Google Alert about this and sent it to Paul.

    What a lot of you don't realise is something which was said in the press release has given away who the person is.

    I reported it as spam almost immediately and nothing was done about it.

    The person who has registered the site, hasn't given a full address for where they are. It is BJ = Beijing 100083 is a district in Beijing, Haidian which is full of universities.
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Mayo
      Now you've went and done it!

      Bev's on the case and it's personal....

      As Mohamed Ali would say, "I pity the Fool!"

      Get um Bev!

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      Originally Posted by Bev Clement View Post

      50 miles from the beach Red172 isn't that far so which is the nearest beach to where you are?

      I got a Google Alert about this and sent it to Paul.

      What a lot of you don't realise is something which was said in the press release has given away who the person is.

      I reported it as spam almost immediately and nothing was done about it.

      The person who has registered the site, hasn't given a full address for where they are. It is BJ = Beijing 100083 is a district in Beijing, Haidian which is full of universities.
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      • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
        As Mohamed Ali would say, "I pity the Fool!"
        Umm.... Michael? That was Mr. T.
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        • Profile picture of the author Michael Mayo
          Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

          Umm.... Michael? That was Mr. T.
          Thank You for the correction Paul, That's why you "Float Like a Butterfly
          and Sting Like a Bee!"

          Didn't spill the beer in my lap this time.

          Have a Great Day!
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          PS,
          Originally Posted by Mubarak Waseem View Post

          ROFLMAO @ intentional misquotation
          You Were Right!
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    • Profile picture of the author red172
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      Originally Posted by Bev Clement View Post

      50 miles from the beach Red172 isn't that far so which is the nearest beach to where you are?

      I got a Google Alert about this and sent it to Paul.

      What a lot of you don't realise is something which was said in the press release has given away who the person is.

      I reported it as spam almost immediately and nothing was done about it.

      The person who has registered the site, hasn't given a full address for where they are. It is BJ = Beijing 100083 is a district in Beijing, Haidian which is full of universities.
      Excuse me? Quite frankly it's non of your business. Fifty miles is a long way away and why would I want to go to snorkelling when I cant swim and have no interest in snorkelling and neither does my wife.

      I resent being questioned in this manner. I wont be answering any more ridiculous questions, I was told that this was a friendly forum but clearly it's not.
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      • Profile picture of the author Bev Clement
        Originally Posted by red172 View Post

        Excuse me? Quite frankly it's non of your business. Fifty miles is a long way away and why would I want to go to snorkelling when I cant swim and have no interest in snorkelling and neither does my wife.

        I resent being questioned in this manner. I wont be answering any more ridiculous questions, I was told that this was a friendly forum but clearly it's not.
        I didn't suggest you go snorkelling, just asked which is the nearest beach. 50 miles isn't far, a long way heck it takes less than an hour to drive 50 miles to a beach in the UK.
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        • Profile picture of the author red172
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          Originally Posted by Bev Clement View Post

          I didn't suggest you go snorkelling, just asked which is the nearest beach. 50 miles isn't far, a long way heck it takes less than an hour to drive 50 miles to a beach in the UK.
          You're a very nosey person. How far is the nearest beach to you?

          We're not interested in beach vacations and we don't have a hire car so even if we wanted to go to the beach we wouldn't.

          As for posting here again, I think I'll take my business elsewhere.
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          • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
            As for posting here again, I think I'll take my business elsewhere.
            Have a nice existence.
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    As Mohamed Ali would say, "I pity the Fool!"
    ROFLMAO @ intentional misquotation
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  • Profile picture of the author Ut
    Paul & Allen scammers? BWAHAHAHA!! Thanks for the laugh!
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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
      Ut,

      Yep. And I managed to sucker Bev for $7000. I'm good!

      At this point, I'd like to invite you all to a lesson in forensic grammar.

      Check out Not one bleeding sale! - Page 2 and Not one bleeding sale!

      In those threads, Julian is using the name article_marketer

      Then check out the "press release," at Paul Myers Continues to Scam People Out of Thousands of Dollars - Free-Press-Release.com

      Then look at the posts in this thread by red172.

      What do they all have in common?


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      • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
        They're all posted by an idiot?
        More to the point, they're almost certainly posted by the same idiot.

        The clues are all there.


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      • Profile picture of the author CMartin
        Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

        At this point, I'd like to invite you all to a lesson in forensic grammar.

        Check out Not one bleeding sale! - Page 2 and Not one bleeding sale!

        In those threads, Julian is using the name article_marketer

        Then check out the "press release," at Paul Myers Continues to Scam People Out of Thousands of Dollars - Free-Press-Release.com

        Then look at the posts in this thread by red172.

        What do they all have in common?
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        • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
          Carlos,
          The single quote on his keyboard does not work
          Lay-deeez and gennelmen, we have a winnuh!

          More precisely, it fails to work in some predictable ways. There is a pattern to his misuse of apostrophes. One that is extremely unlikely to occur in two people from the same part of the world on the same discussion board.

          One of the reasons I was in demand as a copywriter, back in the day, was my ability to emulate someone's writing style so precisely that you couldn't tell which of two samples were from me and which from the client. That required learning to look very closely at the signature patterns in word choices, sentence structure and oddities of grammar.

          We all have patterns, folks.

          And no, I haven't just given away a tool for spotting Jillian. He's got other patterns, all just as likely unconscious as the bad habits in his punctuation.


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          • Profile picture of the author red172
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            Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

            Carlos,Lay-deeez and gennelmen, we have a winnuh!

            More precisely, it fails to work in some predictable ways. There is a pattern to his misuse of apostrophes. One that is extremely unlikely to occur in two people from the same part of the world on the same discussion board.

            One of the reasons I was in demand as a copywriter, back in the day, was my ability to emulate someone's writing style so precisely that you couldn't tell which of two samples were from me and which from the client. That required learning to look very closely at the signature patterns in word choices, sentence structure and oddities of grammar.

            We all have patterns, folks.

            And no, I haven't just given away a tool for spotting Jillian. He's got other patterns, all just as likely unconscious as the bad habits in his punctuation.


            Paul

            You think I wrote that press release? This is unbelieveble! For the second time I have no idea who this Julian/Jillian is or who James Yam is.

            I think I'll find another forum to post on if this is the way newbies are treated around here.
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            • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
              You think I wrote that press release?
              Yes. I do.

              The probability that you are not the same person who was booted from here recently for the stuff I mentioned earlier is, shall we say, quite small. More than enough evidence exists to justify the conclusiuon, considering the small impact of an error in that assessment.

              The probability that you wrote that "release" is only slightly smaller.

              I am quite comfortable with that conclusion as a working premise, yes.


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              • Profile picture of the author John Durham
                Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

                Yes. I do.

                The probability that you are not the same person who was booted from here recently for the stuff I mentioned earlier is, shall we say, quite small. More than enough evidence exists to justify the conclusiuon, considering the small impact of an error in that assessment.

                The probability that you wrote that "release" is only slightly smaller.

                I am quite comfortable with that conclusion as a working premise, yes.


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                Wow. you are hard -CORE!!! Amazing. I love it.
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                • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
                  John,

                  One need only remember the different levels of evidence standards, and why they exist, in order to understand the position. Let's look at the US standards for this example.

                  In a criminal trial, the standard is "beyond a reasonable doubt." This is strict, and justly so, as the person being judged faces loss of freedom or worse. In a civil trial, the standard is "a preponderance of evidence." This is because the damage resulting from error is smaller.

                  In this case, what's at stake? A day old member account, with no associated name, no personal reputation, no income... In fact, no damage worth measuring.

                  If Julian got booted from his last ISP for his behavior, as I suspect happened, he'll be likely to avoid anything getting him thrown off the new one. If he did not, he should, one hopes, wish to avoid being nasty enough to get another talking to from them.

                  The goal is for Julian to leave. The cost of him remaining is higher than the average benefit to the group of a single new member. If you doubt that, look at the number of members and the number of people who regularly contribute in a useful and positive fashion.

                  That's the calculus.


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                  • Profile picture of the author John Durham
                    Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

                    John,

                    One need only remember the different levels of evidence standards, and why they exist, in order to understand the position. Let's look at the US standards for this example.

                    In a criminal trial, the standard is "beyond a reasonable doubt." This is strict, and justly so, as the person being judged faces loss of freedom or worse. In a civil trial, the standard is "a preponderance of evidence." This is because the damage resulting from error is smaller.

                    In this case, what's at stake? A day old member account, with no associated name, no personal reputation, no income... In fact, no damage worth measuring.

                    If Julian got booted from his last ISP for his behavior, as I suspect happened, he'll be likely to avoid anything getting him thrown off the new one. If he did not, he should, one hopes, wish to avoid being nasty enough to get another talking to from them.

                    The goal is for Julian to leave. The cost of him remaining is higher than the average benefit to the group of a single new member. If you doubt that, look at the number of members and the number of people who regularly contribute in a useful and positive fashion.

                    That's the calculus.


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  • Profile picture of the author DougBarger
    You can scroll to the bottom of the press release site's contact us and report it
    here: http://www.free-press-release.com/contact-us.php


    Here's the message you'll see after you report it:
    Thank you!

    We've received your message. We'll contact you as soon as possible.
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  • Profile picture of the author greff
    The domain name is owned by

    Registrant:
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    BJ, 100083
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    Paul, are you connected in China too?
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  • Profile picture of the author slvrsrfr
    by gum paul,

    as a noob i clicked on your sig link that said you were giving stuff away free...and dang nabbit if i didn't get one of the best plans on making a start in im at any price...and it was free...just like your sig said.

    so how the heck do you scam people out of $600k when you're giving such valuable info away for free

    ps. i've been impressed how well you've taken this. but your reputation preceeds you. such a shame nonetheless that there are folks out there like that.
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  • Profile picture of the author Josh Anderson
    Its just been take down...

    Disappeared just as I posted this rebuttal as a comment :-)

    It is unfortunate that free-press-release.com allows such defaming and libelous false and unverified claims to be posted on its site in the form of a fake press release.

    Paul Myers is honest and the person using this site to spew their libelous venom is out to do a smear job.

    I am sure that once free-press-release.com realizes they are publishing libelous claims they will remove this fake press release.
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  • Profile picture of the author DougBarger
    Talk about lightning-fast service!

    "Hello Doug,

    Thanks for contacting.

    This press release has been removed as you requested, please check it."

    Now that's fast!
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Mayo
      That just proves that it isn't who you know but rather whom you..Um, Strike that wrong subject. j/k

      It has to do with the route you take to resolve the matter. Yeah, That's what I meant.

      Good job Doug.

      Hope paul has a copy of the PR.
      If not I do in pdf format.

      Have a Great Day!
      Michael
      Originally Posted by DougBarger View Post

      Talk about lightning-fast service!

      "Hello Doug,

      Thanks for contacting.

      This press release has been removed as you requested, please check it."

      Now that's fast!
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  • Profile picture of the author Anna Johnson
    Focusing on the wrongdoer for a moment (as opposed to our innocent victim), but I guess James Tam (or whoever) must be having a chuckle at all this...

    ...until it dawns on him that he got all this attention for doing so little, and yet, won't be able to capitalize on it one iota.

    No money.

    No goodwill (far from it).

    Nothing but the knowledge that he wasted more of his precious time and energy on doing something entirely unproductive... in fact, counterproductive, to building his Internet marketing business.

    (Assuming that he is, in fact, sane...)
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  • Profile picture of the author DougBarger
    @Michael, thanks man.

    @Bev I don't know, unless maybe the 'contact us' link may have "stood out" a bit
    from the spam reports. I imagine they may get many more spam reports through their
    system than people contacting them directly.

    Here's the message in its entirety as sent:

    (subject line) Damaging, Harmful, Hurtful False allegations release...

    Dear sirs,

    This press release here is blatantly false:

    http://www.free-press-release.com/news/200906/1245888270.html

    It is completely unfounded and was done by a disgruntled
    customer.

    Please remove this as soon as possible as this man has done no wrong and has a sterling reputation.

    Thank you,
    Doug Barger
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  • Profile picture of the author FasTrack-Eddie
    Banned
    it's only a SCAM - if you use even numbers - $500k !!!

    But with odd numbers - $577k - That's Network Marketing at it's Best - lol

    >wink<
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  • Profile picture of the author kennethtang
    Man, just when I thought I had solid evidence of that booger Myers, they gone an deleeted the dang thing from the site.

    Dang!
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  • Profile picture of the author mmurtha
    Originally Posted by Creative Thinker View Post

    Too bad even idiots can post whatever they want on the internet.


    I think this line has been taken already by TMG Enterprises.

    Lol if you are going to post oneliners, at least be original.
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  • Profile picture of the author bronnamdia
    It appears the page with the release has been taken down.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jonathan Mizel
    I think the release is referring to THIS Paul Myers...

    Partner with Paul - Work From Home and Make Money Online

    Not that that guy looks anything like OUR Paul

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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
      Jonathan,

      He may think I'm also that Paul Myers, which would explain the "pyramid scheme" comment. (That guy is involved in a nutritionals MLM.) The release was definitely directed at me, though. He mentioned that I live in Erie, my association with the Warrior Forum, and also used Bev and Allen's names.

      And no, there's not much chance that anyone who's met me will think that picture is me. No grey beard, and I've got probably 20 years on the guy. Not mentioning the disgraceful lack of hattedness.


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    • Profile picture of the author kennethtang
      Originally Posted by Jonathan Mizel View Post

      I think the release is referring to THIS Paul Myers...

      Partner with Paul - Work From Home and Make Money Online

      Not that that guy looks anything like OUR Paul

      Jonathan
      Heh...the universe moves in mysterious ways. I had just PM'ed Paul about that site, wondering if someone is impersonating him or misusing his name, and then saw this thread.

      I actually didn't get to read the release, but when I saw the other page, I wondered when the hell you had shaved
      Paul shave? Oh nooooo...next he'll be using Christian Dior parfume
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      • Profile picture of the author Michael Mayo
        Hi Ken,

        Thanks for keeping me on the straight and narrow!

        Much appreciated,
        Have a Great Day!
        Michael
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  • Profile picture of the author Jonathan Mizel
    I actually didn't get to read the release, but when I saw the other page, I wondered when the hell you had shaved
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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
      I wondered when the hell you had shaved
      And gained a wife and kids, and dropped a few years...

      It's interesting, seeing how the name overlap affects things.


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  • Profile picture of the author charlesburke
    Aw heck - must have missed all the action. When I searched the site just now, I got "The page you request has been deleted or doesn't exist" so maybe they do respond to complaints after all.

    To counteract all that publicity, Paul, I guess you'll have to release "Paul Myers Swears under Oath - I Never Mention Voodoo Secrets in TalkBiz Newsletter."

    Cheers, Charles
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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
      Charles,
      To counteract all that publicity, Paul, I guess you'll have to release "Paul Myers Swears under Oath - I Never Mention Voodoo Secrets in TalkBiz Newsletter."
      Ummm... I'd get convicted of perjury if I said that.

      I mentioned this in the newsletter several times. And yes, this is me having a chat with Marie Levoux...

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  • Profile picture of the author valerieSONORA
    Aww missed it!
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    siggy taking a break...

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    • Profile picture of the author VegasVince
      In the end....the Zen Master Big Paulie.... should be flattered.

      Because low life bottom feeders seldom target....the "average Joe".

      They go after the Big Fish.

      Paul is a Big Tuna around this joint for sure.....and that means he's a bigger target for the nut cases out there...who stuff pickles for 7 bucks an hour, date their cousin, and live with their momma. They hate others...because they hate themselves. Capiche!

      1. Truth is.....hatchet jobs like the one described in this thread....are based on jelousy...and are designed to target is someone who has a big time reputation.

      Those in life who can't create a reputation of their own....will often look to destroy the reputation of a third party.... who represents all they are not.

      It's called Junior High School shit...years after graduation....and it's alive and well in this world today. And it's rather sad. People who decide to rip apart another in order to cast a quick fix mirage over their own self loathing.

      2. A big time reputation....that's earned the old fashioned way...will always trump a low life smear campaign...in the long run. Often...the target ends up stronger because of it...and in this case...so does Paul....who I suspect is still standing tall.

      3. It never ceases to amaze me that there are people out there...so void of talent and originality and hope....that they cope with their own shortcomings....via attacking others who they desperately wish they could trade places with.



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