How can you protect your blog post from becoming WSOs?

27 replies
I've read somewhere of bloggers complaining that some WSOs or affiliate marketing digital products and even software was based on 'concepts' they discussed. While the software claim is probably a stretch, the blogging claim is quite disturbing. I write tons of materials for both my blogger clients and my own blogs and it would suck to find out that these concepts were 'harvested' and turned into digital products.

Simply copying and pasting some else's blog posts and claiming it as your own is obviously actionable. But what if they made derivative products from your stuff? What is the return on effort in such a situation?
#blog #post #protect #wsos
  • Profile picture of the author unreal
    You can't protect it, every time everywhere someone will copy your info into a paid product just accept that!
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9392366].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Graham Maddison
    if you use wordpress, you can install a free plugin to stop content theft .... there are a few variations but wp content protector seems to fit the bill ok
    Signature
    Trade without Boundaries.
    Start with $30 Trading Bonus.
    No Deposit Required
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9392643].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Ontealdon
    There is not a proven way to do that, you can place copyright texts on your website though.
    Probably you'll never know if someone uses your blog post to turn a product.
    Signature
    A business that makes nothing but money is a poor business.
    -Henry Ford
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9392647].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author JohnnyPlan
    And, this isn't the only place someone could sell your concepts or ideas either. Think of the person who harvests your blog(s) for a Kindle ebook. Maybe there's a legal action you could take, for whatever that is worth online.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9392668].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author RWBiggs
    Originally Posted by writeaway View Post

    I've read somewhere of bloggers complaining that some WSOs or affiliate marketing digital products and even software was based on 'concepts' they discussed. While the software claim is probably a stretch, the blogging claim is quite disturbing. I write tons of materials for both my blogger clients and my own blogs and it would suck to find out that these concepts were 'harvested' and turned into digital products.

    Simply copying and pasting some else's blog posts and claiming it as your own is obviously actionable. But what if they made derivative products from your stuff? What is the return on effort in such a situation?
    This may be controversial but, if its a concept that has been harvested or a copy and paste, why not just go with the flow. Find out who made the product off of your stuff and send them an email congratulating them on a great product.

    You then can suggest forming a partnership for future products. You have the information and the concepts, they will take action and create the product. Both of you will benefit.

    Just my two cents worth.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9392681].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author markgaperl
      Originally Posted by RWBiggs View Post

      This may be controversial but, if its a concept that has been harvested or a copy and paste, why not just go with the flow. Find out who made the product off of your stuff and send them an email congratulating them on a great product.

      You then can suggest forming a partnership for future products. You have the information and the concepts, they will take action and create the product. Both of you will benefit.

      Just my two cents worth.
      That is quite out-of-the-box thinking and I like it. I mean you have the option to take legal action if you have the time and energy for it. But making the most of what you see is a very smart move and could be a very beneficial one.
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9393064].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author MNord
      Originally Posted by RWBiggs View Post

      This may be controversial but, if its a concept that has been harvested or a copy and paste, why not just go with the flow. Find out who made the product off of your stuff and send them an email congratulating them on a great product.

      You then can suggest forming a partnership for future products. You have the information and the concepts, they will take action and create the product. Both of you will benefit.

      Just my two cents worth.
      I disagree. Never reward, sanction or encourage bad behavior. My view is: if they outright stole from you and there is a lot of money in play, put up your dukes. If it isn't worth it, move on. But going into business with a crook will not end well.
      Signature
      First 10 Warriors to PM me get a FREE weight loss PLR article pack. Brand new original PLR! (You must have over 50 posts and agree to provide a review.)

      Best-written PLR article you've ever seen? Find out...get it FREE
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9399559].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
    Banned
    Originally Posted by writeaway View Post

    I write tons of materials for both my blogger clients and my own blogs and it would suck to find out that these concepts were 'harvested' and turned into digital products.
    It might "suck", but it wouldn't actually cost you any money, if you weren't doing that yourself anyway, would it?

    Originally Posted by writeaway View Post

    what if they made derivative products from your stuff? What is the return on effort in such a situation?
    Your return isn't any different from what it would otherwise have been, if they're producing income from it and you're not, I think? If they hadn't infringed your rights with the creation of their "derivative works", they'd have infringed someone else's instead, surely? How would that actually help you? (Yes, it would "suck" less, from your perspective, perhaps - I can see that.)

    .
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9393117].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author WillR
    Originally Posted by writeaway View Post

    I've read somewhere of bloggers complaining that some WSOs or affiliate marketing digital products and even software was based on 'concepts' they discussed. While the software claim is probably a stretch, the blogging claim is quite disturbing. I write tons of materials for both my blogger clients and my own blogs and it would suck to find out that these concepts were 'harvested' and turned into digital products.

    Simply copying and pasting some else's blog posts and claiming it as your own is obviously actionable. But what if they made derivative products from your stuff? What is the return on effort in such a situation?
    It's quite likely the ideas your blog posts are based on are ideas that you have seen elsewhere and made your own. Nothing you can do about this unless someone has blatantly ripped your product off. But most products out there are using methods taught to them by someone else. That's how learning works.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9393191].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author writeaway
      Originally Posted by WillR;9393191[I

      ]It's quite likely the ideas your blog posts are based on are ideas that you have seen elsewhere and made your own.[/I] Nothing you can do about this unless someone has blatantly ripped your product off. But most products out there are using methods taught to them by someone else. That's how learning works.
      Interesting that you'd make the claim I bolded above. Quite a claim. Since you readily proposed that idea, is it also quite likely the product you're selling is based on someone else's method or ideas? Would you be as welcoming when 'learning' is at your expense?
      Signature

      Want To Make More Money Online? Invest in BETTER CONTENT!
      Articles - Blogs - Authority sites - Ecommerce descriptions - Emails - Youtube video scripts - AFFORDABLE RATES!
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9393531].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author WillR
        Originally Posted by writeaway View Post

        Interesting that you'd make the claim I bolded above. Quite a claim. Since you readily proposed that idea, is it also quite likely the product you're selling is based on someone else's method or ideas? Would you be as welcoming when 'learning' is at your expense?
        Absolutely the majority of the knowledge and skills I have and teach to others I have learnt from elsewhere.

        To think otherwise would be foolish.

        I think you will find most people are in the same boat. As I said above, that is how learning works. Without passing knowledge on, none of us would know 1% of what we all know today.
        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9395855].message }}
        • Profile picture of the author Alex Blades
          Originally Posted by WillR View Post

          Absolutely the majority of the knowledge and skills I have and teach to others I have learnt from elsewhere.

          To think otherwise would be foolish.

          I think you will find most people are in the same boat. As I said above, that is how learning works. Without passing knowledge on, none of us would know 1% of what we all know today.
          I agree 100%

          If it wasn't for man's ability to pass down information, we'd still live in caves, or worse... WE"D BE EXTINCT!!
          Signature
          " I knew that if I failed, I wouldn't regret that.
          But I knew the one thing I might regret is not ever having tried. "

          ~ Jeff Bezos

          {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9398159].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author Lucian Lada
        Originally Posted by writeaway View Post

        Interesting that you'd make the claim I bolded above. Quite a claim.
        There's a difference between copy & pasting, and creating your own content by getting inspiration from others. I believe you refer to the latter. If this was not allowed, the majority of books, ideas, art work, etc. would not have been possible. Everyone is allowed to put a spin on a subject/idea/etc. and make it their own. With enough spins, we might even get something great out of it.

        I'm sure you do it. I do it, too. In fact, everyone does it. It's natural and normal and expected.

        And as Will pointed out, how did you get your knowledge? I'm sure you didn't just wake up one morning and knew all about internet marketing. You probably found most of the information here or on other websites/blogs, and now you've created your own blow where you write your own ideas regarding this field. You cannot possibly claim that 100% of your content is never heard before, simply because it is influenced by what you've read somewhere else. Even geniuses take an idea and make it great.
        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9396113].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author nmchant
        Quote:
        Originally Posted by WillR;9393191[I
        ]It's quite likely the ideas your blog posts are based on are ideas that you have seen elsewhere and made your own.[/I] Nothing you can do about this unless someone has blatantly ripped your product off. But most products out there are using methods taught to them by someone else. That's how learning works.

        Originally Posted by writeaway View Post

        Interesting that you'd make the claim I bolded above. Quite a claim. Since you readily proposed that idea, is it also quite likely the product you're selling is based on someone else's method or ideas? Would you be as welcoming when 'learning' is at your expense?

        Unless your ideas are brand spanking new concepts that no one's ever written about before, I'm going to take an educated guess here; you've read other people's writings on the subject(s). If not, more power to you and I'd love to see your blog.
        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9398001].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author nmchant
      Originally Posted by WillR View Post

      It's quite likely the ideas your blog posts are based on are ideas that you have seen elsewhere and made your own. Nothing you can do about this unless someone has blatantly ripped your product off. But most products out there are using methods taught to them by someone else. That's how learning works.
      Exactly right.
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9397979].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author MrFume
    There is nothing really 'new', you might be discussing a concept, or strategy but it is up to you to maximize the return on your own knowledge, if someone else is enterprising enough to see an angle you are yourself using, this is called initiative. The only way to protect ideas is to withhold them and just use them yourself, or place them under copyright. you would be hard pressed to prove you had anything truly original though - the internet itself is a repository of all known information but the way you present that can be original and useful to someone.
    Signature

    The whole basis of what we do as human beings is based on Communication, nothing would be possible otherwise. I work with communication, publishing on the Web, digital media.
    Digital Media for a Noisy World

    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9393247].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author origin
    Samsung and Apple are asking the same things in court at the moment Unless it is verbatim / plagiarism there is not much protection for your "ideas". If you publish your ideas on a blog it is out there for the whole wide world. So I suggest you keep the good ones for yourself and make your own WSO's before you publish it on your blog....
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9393434].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Tim Franklin
    This happens all the time, In fact someone is probably going to read through the OP and decide that something they see here gives them an idea about creating and selling a WSO, while it would be nice to see someone at some point "Give Back" the truth is, most of the time its not that way at all.

    When you create public content, its public, anyone can read it and consume the material.

    If that gives them a great idea about how to make money online selling a WSO, great nothing wrong with that at all.

    I think the OP is talking about a narrow "band" of frequency where someone literally plagiarized, content and used it in a WSO digital product.

    That would be a violation, but how do you police something like that?

    One thing that I would certainly do, If I had a conversation with someone and went on to make good money with that help, (Do the right thing)

    I think people are afraid to acknowledge that they had help, but all in all the proof is definitely in the pudding.

    There are people out there that have literally ZERO creative skills but they can sell because they have that talent.

    What would be great is to develop WSO products with warriors that have complementary skills.

    If you have great marketing skills a small list why not find a creative, setup a WSO and make a profit...
    Signature
    Bitcoin | Crypto | Software Development | iOS | Android | AI Crypto |
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9393515].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author gcbmark20
    Hi,

    The best thing you can do is SELL your own products first.

    Then later on post some of those materials at your blog.

    At least then you can build a customer base.

    Building a buyers Email list is a fantastic asset to own for your business.

    Get your own stuff out there and build a business around it.

    These people don't care if they are doing what you say they might be.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9393561].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author ssparks81
    Beat them to it! Turn it into a digital product yourself Unfortunately, I don't think there is a way to 100% safe guard your information. It's the risk you take for posting your info free for all the world to see.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9396447].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author David Daygin
      If you don't want others to see your content, learn from it, expand on it, and advance the universe of knowledge, don't publicly release it on a blog.
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9397932].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
    Banned
    Originally Posted by writeaway View Post

    I've read somewhere of bloggers complaining that some WSOs or affiliate marketing digital products and even software was based on 'concepts' they discussed. While the software claim is probably a stretch, the blogging claim is quite disturbing. I write tons of materials for both my blogger clients and my own blogs and it would suck to find out that these concepts were 'harvested' and turned into digital products.
    Ideas, facts, concepts are not copyrightable.

    What does copyright protect?
    Copyright, a form of intellectual property law, protects original works of authorship including literary, dramatic, musical, and artistic works, such as poetry, novels, movies, songs, computer software, and architecture. Copyright does not protect facts, ideas, systems, or methods of operation, although it may protect the way these things are expressed. See Circular 1, Copyright Basics, section "What Works Are Protected."

    U.S. Copyright Office - What Does Copyright Protect? (FAQ)
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9397968].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Beatinest
    Originally Posted by writeaway View Post

    I've read somewhere of bloggers complaining that some WSOs or affiliate marketing digital products and even software was based on 'concepts' they discussed. While the software claim is probably a stretch, the blogging claim is quite disturbing. I write tons of materials for both my blogger clients and my own blogs and it would suck to find out that these concepts were 'harvested' and turned into digital products.

    Simply copying and pasting some else's blog posts and claiming it as your own is obviously actionable. But what if they made derivative products from your stuff? What is the return on effort in such a situation?
    It happens. I had someone download my product, re-skin it and add it to their WSO as part of their product. Just realized it over the weekend. Not sure if it was them or their outsources but I'm still trying to get to the bottom of it. I reported the WSO but didn't hear anything back from the forum mods so as of this moment I'm in limbo. DMCAs going out soon.

    It's unfortunate that in the amazing arena of online marketing there are indeed some unscrupulous folks lurking in the shadows. For the rest of us, it's only a pebble in the road we are paving but it's still something that distracts us from things we need to be working on because unfortunately DMCAs take time to send, mods take time to contact, and it takes time to follow up.
    Signature
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9398165].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author XponentSYS
    Copy and pasting materials from your BLOG is not only illegal, it's unethical.

    But.... you can't do anything of someone reads a post and spins it into an information product. Unfortunately, it just happens.

    Take it as flattery and move on.

    Or...... "Get even" by hitting THEIR blog with intentions of same, lol (joking)
    Signature
    "Hybrid Method" Gets 120,846 TARGETED VISITORS
    To Any Site in ANY NICHE!

    NOW FREE IN THE WAR ROOM! CLICK HERE!
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9398342].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author WillR
      Originally Posted by XponentSYS View Post

      But.... you can't do anything of someone reads a post and spins it into an information product. Unfortunately, it just happens.
      Exactly.

      The only reason you would write a blog post or sell an informational product is to pass on information to other people. Now that they know that information, if they decide to turn around and create a product based around that same information, well that's just life. If you didn't want to teach others then you don't write the content in the first place. if you do want to teach others then you can't be upset when the student becomes the master.
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9398648].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
      Banned
      Originally Posted by XponentSYS View Post

      Copy and pasting materials from your BLOG is not only illegal, it's unethical.

      But.... you can't do anything of someone reads a post and spins it into an information product. Unfortunately, it just happens.
      The OP didn't really say anything at all about copying and pasting blog posts. He said he's worried about people making a product out of ideas or concepts that he might discuss. If the product is discussing those same ideas and concepts in their own words, it isn't copyright infringement. Per my post here http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post9397968, ideas, facts, and concepts are not copyrightable.

      To think that any one person is the only person allowed to discuss those ideas and concepts is ludicrous.
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9399810].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Lance K
    Originally Posted by writeaway View Post

    But what if they made derivative products from your stuff? What is the return on effort in such a situation?
    If your back end is stronger, you'll be able to spend more on customer acquisition and crush them in pretty short order.
    Signature
    "You can have everything in life you want if you will just help enough other people get what they want."
    ~ Zig Ziglar
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9399899].message }}

Trending Topics