is the IM niche good for beginners?

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If you are completely new to Internet marketing, is the IM niche good to go into?

I hear some people say NO WAY and then others say DO IT!
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  • Profile picture of the author buffnstuff
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    • Profile picture of the author Sojourn
      Depends on what you mean by "go into"....if you mean should you, as a beginner, jump in and start trying to create/promote/sell products or content about internet marketing? I think the answer is generally - but not always - no.

      If you don't know enough yet to be able to help others then it's going to be rough going. What would you write about where your information could be unique, high quality, helpful, etc?

      However, if you have a special skill that's of use to internet marketers - maybe you're an expert at making attractive graphics for all kinds of projects - then you might be able to pursue a model where your skills are advertised to other internet marketers.
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      • Profile picture of the author entrepreneurjay
        Originally Posted by Sojourn View Post

        Depends on what you mean by "go into"....if you mean should you, as a beginner, jump in and start trying to create/promote/sell products or content about internet marketing? I think the answer is generally - but not always - no.

        If you don't know enough yet to be able to help others then it's going to be rough going. What would you write about where your information could be unique, high quality, helpful, etc?

        However, if you have a special skill that's of use to internet marketers - maybe you're an expert at making attractive graphics for all kinds of projects - then you might be able to pursue a model where your skills are advertised to other internet marketers.
        well said I agree 100% find something that interests you and there is money to be made as well you will be much more likely to succeed if you actually enjoy what you are doing.
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  • Profile picture of the author pxjenkins
    Originally Posted by NathanKruz View Post

    If you are completely new to Internet marketing, is the IM niche good to go into?

    I hear some people say NO WAY and then others say DO IT!
    I wouldn't qualify it as a niche, so much as a 'world'. And like any world, seems to me you need to orientate, make friends, find out who (and what) to avoid. As said above, play to your strengths.
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  • Profile picture of the author dana67
    Internet Marketing can apply to a multitude of niches. With that said, everyone here was a beginner at one time or another. Find your niche. Put together a blog or a website. Learn about Internet Marketing. Then market your niche.

    Good luck.
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    • Profile picture of the author Barry Cross
      It's a great niche to get into. I would recommend that you look at programmes that are newbie friendly so you don't get overwhelmed in your early days.

      Keep systems simple, consistent & focus on residual income to enjoy more time freedom.

      Cheers
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    • Profile picture of the author TheWillisWay
      When I first became an Internet marketer I sucked at it. In fact...I blew wads. But i knew I was a newbie. I kept sucking....and kept sucking.... and kept failing... untill I
      ....well.. i stopped sucking so bad. Then as time progressed I found my self actually making my dreams come true.

      If your willing to keep on keeping on no matter how long it takes to stop sucking at it then yes. IM is for you.

      But if you are just going to try then give up when you don't succeed then its not for you.

      You must be willing to go through and execute hundreds of bad ideas in order to find the golden nuggets. If you can do this.... then yes IM is for you.
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      • Profile picture of the author 1mattonline
        Just keep in mind,

        People who says NO = In most cases either failed ones and stop,
        didn't put in the effort, it's just not their interest(did not enjoy), was
        misled, don't believe in it etc.

        People who says YES DO IT = In most cases hard working, don't
        give up when failing, they enjoy it, had proper training, believe in it etc.

        You could list a book full of reasons why people say YES and NO,
        yet, their are tons of people who succeed and a ton who fail.

        To answer your question: There is allot of money to be made in IM,
        in many different ways, and the principles stays the same in any niche.

        Quality Product + Targeted Traffic = Success

        If you really wan to pursue IM, do it, try it, experience it and grow,
        forget the naysayers. If you fail, good, you just received feedback and lessons.

        Good luck... I'd say, if you want to try it, GO FOR IT!

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  • Profile picture of the author perryny
    Originally Posted by NathanKruz View Post

    If you are completely new to Internet marketing, is the IM niche good to go into?
    IM isn't a niche. It's an industry.

    What you're asking is similar to saying, "Is accounting a good niche to go into?" or, "Is real estate a good niche to go into?".

    If you go into IM, your intention is to build a business and make money.

    Building an IM business is not very different from building any other business in terms of effort. Regardless of what path you take (there's a LOT to choose from), you will have to learn a lot, and work hard, at least in the beginning.

    The nice thing is once you get your IM business running properly, if you build it right you shouldn't have to work so hard, and you will hopefully be making a lot of money.
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      If you're talking about teaching others how to make money, no. How stupid is this? You have no clue how to make money online yourself but you're going to teach others either by selling your own products or recommending products of others.

      Start making money doing something else and THEN you can start teaching others to do what you did.

      Noobs trying to do this stuff is part of the reason the MMO niche is such a joke.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by NathanKruz View Post

    is the IM niche good for beginners?
    First, it isn't a "niche" - it's a "market" and an absolutely huge one.

    Secondly, no: these niches are dreadful, for beginners.

    Setting out in IM-related niches, for beginning marketers, is the single commonest mistake made by beginners, and the single commonest reason underlying the very high failure-rate in internet marketing.

    How much sense can it really make to be advising others how to do something of which you have no successful experience, yourself? You'll be doing that - directly or indirectly - in the emails you send out to subscribers. (And without sending emails out to subscribers, there's no income worth talking about, anyway. If you didn't know that yet, it simply illustrates yet again why you should stay away from any IM-related niches.)

    If you set out in IM-related niches, the one thing you're guaranteeing is that you'll be competing for the same traffic against some of the world's most successful, most experienced, best-funded internet marketers. How do you like that competition for your first venture?

    You'll also be making sure that your own visitors/subscribers are also visitors/subscribers to a large number of other other marketers almost all of whom have far more experience than you do. (Who's likely to "make the sale", under those circumstances?).

    Originally Posted by NathanKruz View Post

    I hear some people say NO WAY and then others say DO IT!
    The people who say "do it" are probably the exact same people who tell beginning marketers that it's all about "taking action" (apparently without it ever quite occurring to them that if you set off in the wrong direction, whether you arrive at your desired destination will have absolutely nothing to do with how much "action" you take).

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    It's a good way to get taken advantage of. Beware of snake-oil.
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  • Profile picture of the author nazozi
    IM is vast. likewise, PASSION is important. If you do not have it, then -> NO.
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  • Profile picture of the author EdwinBrownJr
    If you had to ask the question then you probably shouldn't do it and when you are ready you will be ready.

    I read through a few a post and they almost sounded like they
    wanted to fight you because you asked the question.

    ( And that is what stops people from being themselves. The backlash of criticism that they receive on the journey... deep down inside most of your critics are bitter because they stop believing in themselves along time ago.

    You know what... F**K'em, kill'em with your success and kill'em again with your testimonials)

    Just Suck It and See...

    But when it comes down to it, I am sure it has
    been done before... I could be wrong

    and I am sure it will be done again...
    I could be wrong about that also.

    If you want to do it... DO IT... I only hate a few things and one of them is
    when I see others trying extinguish someones dream.

    "So what advice can you give
    and who can you give it to."

    Believe it or not there are people who don't know the things you know and you are doing them a disservice because they need that information.

    You don't have to teach people how to make money to be able to contribute to the market. Maybe you are very creative and you a awesome technique for coming up with great domain names with out fail.

    And after you of have done a little research that people are looking for great domains and people are paying thousands of dollars for the names but your report shows them how they can come with those same domain names and save them thousands of dollars.

    And If I had the problem of coming up with great domain names I would buy if:

    One: I wanted the report.

    Two: I had the money

    Three: I believed that you had the technique

    Some will take you up on your offer and some want... So What... for get about them as long as you delivered what you said...

    Maybe they will listen When you are the go to The Creative Brand Consultant of Nike, Disney, and Apple.


    I really believe that your question could of been:

    Is weight loss, oyster farming, or seduction, a good niche for a beginner
    and the same advice could have been given to you from every who decides to give it...
    (Because no niche is a good niche if you don't know the audience and don't have the goods)

    My advice: do what your gut tells you to in the niche or market you take on.
    Then one day you be ready for The Leap Frog Theory...
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by EdwinBrownJr View Post

      I really believe that your question could of been:

      Is weight loss, oyster farming, or seduction, a good niche for a beginner
      and the same advice could have been given to you from every who decides to give it...
      Respectfully (and I mean that), I don't think so.

      I would actually have said that oyster-farming probably has the potential to be a good niche for a beginner who knows about the subject, but weight-loss and seduction probably not, because they're both hugely competitive, and therefore comparatively "low-probability starting-points" for the overwhelming majority of aspiring internet marketers, for some of the same reasons which I applied to "IM-related niches", in my post above. (But as so many people have wisely illustrated, above, there are also additional factors specific to IM-niches, making them even less appropriate for beginners.)

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  • Profile picture of the author DeadRooster
    I think you are referring to the Make Money Online niche. In that case, a TOTAL BEGINNER would have a tough time selling something of value to that niche. However, you CAN do it if you've been hanging around the WF and have a little bit of knowledge under your belt.

    The trick is to offer something of value that doesn't require proof of income.
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    • Profile picture of the author cborgrx
      Originally Posted by DeadRooster View Post

      I think you are referring to the Make Money Online niche. In that case, a TOTAL BEGINNER would have a tough time selling something of value to that niche. However, you CAN do it if you've been hanging around the WF and have a little bit of knowledge under your belt.

      The trick is to offer something of value that doesn't require proof of income.
      MMO is still a giant marketplace. One needs to drill down further into one of the many niches that fall under the MMO umbrella. At last count, there were 3271 different niches to make money online. I am just joking with the number but there are a lot and I think you get the idea. Good luck as you are in the right place to get started.
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      • Profile picture of the author The Niche Man
        If you're determined to do it anyway, the best place to start IMO is affliate marketing. I'm surprised no one mentioned that yet. That was probably the starting point for most people who gave you advice in this thread so far.

        Why do I say affiliate marketing?

        • You can start learning the basics without pressure.
        • With the least amount of risk.
        • Tailor the company, product or service (niche) you choose to your interest.
        • Most companies at least teach you basic marketing techniques.
        • Most companies provide marketing materials.
        • Most provide webpage.
        • And you might even make some money eventually.

        It's tailored for beginners.
        You may not get rich or even make much money. But it's an excellent education for beginners, IMO.
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  • Profile picture of the author T S Chan
    First of all: do you have any specific skills?

    If you have, I suggest you to start with that as your niche.

    If no, the next question is: Are you passionate about IM niche?

    If yes - go ahead and make IM as your niche.

    If no - look for a niche that you're passionate about,

    Hope it helps...
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  • Profile picture of the author SEO Power
    If you can find a small IM-related niche to focus on, you can succeed in IM-related niches. In every market, there are niches. And in every niche, there are small or micro niches. Micro niches have the lowest competition but are still profitable if you know how to take advantage of them.

    Apply this to the IM market and you'll be on the right path to making some money. Not that it'll come easy, but it eventually will.

    Aside from that, making money in the IM market requires dedication, perseverance, and money. Yes, money! You'll need an email marketing subscription, a good host, video and audio equipment for videos, webinars, and podcasts, etc. You won't need all of these from the beginning though.

    The standards are higher, and your blog visitors will expect more from you everyday.
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  • Profile picture of the author KyleG1461
    If you are a beginner at internet marketing, what makes you think you are qualified to tell other people how to do internet marketing?

    If you've never driven a car before, would you set up shop as a driving instructor?
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  • Profile picture of the author Nightengale
    For all of the reasons Alexa and Steven Wagenheim have mentioned, selling MMO info when you yourself haven't made a dime online is a VERY BAD IDEA. It's out of integrity.

    HOWEVER, if you're not teaching it yourself or making false income claims, you can sell someone else's MMO info as an affiliate (assuming THEY have made money online) with integrity.

    But the MMO niche is extremely crowded and can be difficult to be successful in. It's not an easy niche to break into. And if you're a complete newbie, it's definitely not advisable.

    There are plenty of niches where people have been successful for decades, long before the Internet. (Remember, the Internet is just a medium. It's not a business in and of itself.)

    You can focus on a niche like:

    1. Fitness/weight loss
    2. Dating
    3. Parenting
    4. Cooking
    5. Pet care
    6. Writing and publishing
    7. Etc.

    There is no one "best niche" for an online business.

    In short, any niche that people have made money in before will generally be successful online. The key is to pick something that you're interested in and know something about. It's generally a bad idea to pick a niche strictly based on income potential.

    You're going about this rather backwards. What are your interests and skills? What are you knowledgeable about?

    Start there.

    Also, don't think you have to sell info products or digital products. There are people making a killing selling physical products using Amazon and eBay.

    So, what are you interested in? What are your skills? What are you knowledgeable about?

    Hope that helps!

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  • Profile picture of the author buffnstuff
    WOW! What a firestorm! All because the poor guy asked about going into the IM / MMO market. While it's a tough and highly competitive market, it has a lot of dimensions, no different than any other highly competitive market such as health, fitness, technology, weight loss, etc.

    We don't know his background and level of experiences. Most here have jumped to conclusions and made assumptions with no facts.This guy may have the background and experiences that would lend themselves to some kind of information product or even a software that could be beneficial in a sub-niche of IM.

    Just because someone is new to the market doesn't mean they have nothing to contribute.

    My advice to you is there are many programs that are already designed that you can plug into and just follow the steps and have success. I can even recommend 2 really great programs that I know work and are working for me and others that are very inexpensive to get into, with an unbelievable ROI. Just PM me and I will be happy to share them with you if you like.

    Don't be intimidated by the negativity in this thread. Just be creative and persistent and you can make it.

    A word to all of the negative people here.. Don't forget you were once a newbie too. Rather than bash this poor guy for asking an innocent question, why not relate your story, rather than being dream killers?

    Best of luck and I wish you much success. I hope you come back some day and rub your success in some of these people's faces. That would be justice.

    Rock on!

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    • Profile picture of the author Sojourn
      Originally Posted by buffnstuff View Post

      WOW! What a firestorm!
      It's more an issue with not having more details about his question. (Nathan - come back!!!)

      Those who have said he shouldn't do this have been pretty clear that "if he's talking about..." then yes/no.

      We just don't know what exactly he meant by "is the IM niche good to go into".

      I have no problem agreeing there are things he could do in IM even as a beginner. As I mentioned, offer a service that other internet marketers need if it's a strength of yours.

      As others mentioned, start a blog about your journey. Perform some case studies. Maybe they become a worthy product, maybe not. Maybe they're great material for the blog. Test IM products and strategies and report on them. Go into affiliate marketing.

      But teach others how to make money online if you've never done it? No.

      Even worse - charge people to buy something about making money online when you've never done it yourself? I'd be mad. If I paid for a photography class and the teacher had never taken a photo I'd be demanding a refund.

      I don't think anyone's trying to be negative - they're being realistic and then only with the little info presented in the question.

      He sure stirred up a good conversation. Then he ran off!
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  • Profile picture of the author JensSteyaert
    If you position yourself correctly, ofcourse you can get started in the MMO / IM niche.

    I can't believe the reactions here, they are simply absurd....

    Just a thought: how about you try out new products as a complete newbie and document your findings. Wouldn't that be adding value to the marketplace? Who can give better advice from a newbie's point of view than a newbie?

    It's like saying a fat person can never create or try a product about weightloss just becaue he's not skinny...Sorry but if you're going to take the advice of many people here you're going to stay fat.

    Just take action and document your progress / findings and you just got started.
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    • Profile picture of the author buffnstuff
      Originally Posted by JensSteyaert View Post

      If you position yourself correctly, ofcourse you can get started in the MMO / IM niche.

      I can't believe the reactions here, they are simply absurd....

      Just a thought: how about you try out new products as a complete newbie and document your findings. Wouldn't that be adding value to the marketplace? Who can give better advice from a newbie's point of view than a newbie?

      It's like saying a fat person can never create or try a product about weightloss just becaue he's not skinny...Sorry but if you're going to take the advice of many people here you're going to stay fat.

      Just take action and document your progress / findings and you just got started.
      This is great advice. I have seen a lot of successful marketers when starting out creating a blog where they chronicle their experiences as they progress. They made it so others who were new could collaborate together sharing what they have learned both good and bad, eventually working themselves into an authority over time.

      Good luck my friend and don't give up!
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  • Profile picture of the author BaukeV
    Wow so many people are so negative about beginning in the IM niche, but they forget you don't necessarily have to start with teaching others how to do IM.
    You could:
    - sell affiliate offers
    - do interviews with other successful marketers
    - sell software
    - sell web- and/or graphicsdesign
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by orion87 View Post

      Wow so many people are so negative about beginning in the IM niche, but they forget you don't necessarily have to start with teaching others how to do IM.
      I think they're very fully aware of that, actually - and equally fully aware of how terribly low the success-rate is, when people try to start out that way, even if they're not trying to "teach".
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      • Profile picture of the author kilgore
        Though I make my living on the internet, I actually don't consider myself an internet marketer, so I'm probably the least qualified to answer this question. But from someone on the outside looking in, MMO seems like a horrible place to spend your energies.

        Here's my reasoning:
        1. It seems oversaturated. At least based on the threads I've seen on this forum, it seems like there are three people trying to sell IM/MMO-related products for every person trying to make money online.
        2. I doubt if most people you'd be marketing to have much disposable income to spend. It's really not that far removed from trying to market products to the unemployed. Sure there's a need there, but I just don't see the payout.
        3. You're new to IM. What makes you think you could teach anything about it? And even if you could, what makes you think you could convince others without any track record whatsoever that you know what you're talking about? And sure you could do other things besides trying to teach, but you could also do those other things in a niche you actually know something about.
        4. There are far too many snake-oil salesmen, too many get rich quick schemes and just all around shadiness in the IM/MMO niche for my tastes. I'm not saying there aren't legitimate "gurus" or whatever you want to call them. But I'd rather spend my time working on my site than trying to sort through a bunch of BS to find the few nuggets of gold that are out there.
        5. It's boring. No way I'd want to spend the 60 - 70 hours a week I work on my site on an IM niche. And sorry, but at least in my experience hard work and long hours are the only way to be successful when starting a business.

        Incidentally, even among the people who say that this is a great niche to get into, I haven't read a single comment that actually explains why it's a good idea -- other than the fact that you can by an MMO-related product from the person saying it's a good idea. Is it less competitive than I think? Do your customers have more money than I suspect? Is it really as simple as all the snake-oil salesmen's claims of following steps A, B and C and then suddenly you're making millions without having to work? Somehow I doubt it.

        That said, there are certainly a few good ideas above on how you might approach the topic if you're determined to do so. But I still think you'd be setting yourself for more trouble than it's worth.
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        • Profile picture of the author perryny
          Originally Posted by kilgore View Post

          Incidentally, even among the people who say that this is a great niche to get into, I haven't read a single comment that actually explains why it's a good idea


          You need a product, a prospect who needs your product, a way to promote it and a place to promote it.

          If you can create a product that serves a niche in this market - doesn't matter how long you've been here. WF is full of laser-targeted niches who are easy to reach.
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          • Profile picture of the author kilgore
            Originally Posted by perryny View Post

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            This proves that there is a potential market. But given that WF is one of the biggest IM sites out there, 800K people doesn't actually impress. And as I said, of these 800,000 it seems like 2.5 million are in the MMO niche (OK, my math's a little off, but you get the idea...) so the competition is really, really high.

            And I still maintain that most people looking for MMO schemes don't have a lot of money to begin with, so I just don't see the payout being very lucrative even if you are successful.
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            • Profile picture of the author perryny
              Originally Posted by kilgore View Post

              But given that WF is one of the biggest IM sites out there, 800K people doesn't actually impress.
              It impresses me.

              800,000 members of a single forum - sharing a single focus... Making Money.

              The busiest BY FAR sub-forum, day in and day out is the WSO forum (4300+ in there now, and it's Sunday night. Next busiest section is the main forum with less than half the volume of the WSO forum right now). Point... members are buyers.

              Can you, the newbie, create or promote a product that will appeal to the people here?

              I don't know... CAN YOU?

              Creating a report that shares the story and lessons of your journey will not have the necessary appeal in my opinion. Unless you have an extraordinary journey with an extraordinarily valuable lesson. In which case, your story might go viral and you'll have very fast success.

              Because if you sell your report for $7, and appeal to 1/2 of 1% of the members here, you've got a $28,000 payday.

              And a list of 4000 people you can keep selling to. IF YOU CAN SELL.

              (you might want to check my math on that...).

              WF is a massive, highly targeted audience. But trying to sell them garbage won't work.

              And with the amount of competition shooting for the same audience, anything less than highly valuable and unique will be labeled garbage or be ignored.
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        • Profile picture of the author kilgore
          Yeah, I think your math is a little off.
          1. The 800K users aren't necessarily active users. 4,000 people viewing WSOs? I guess that's OK, but we've got 150 times that on my Facebook page.
          2. The 800K users have very different needs, goals, strategies, etc. It's really not a homogenous population -- "making money" isn't really a definable, marketable trait. Nor, is it the reason everyone on the WF is here. (It's not for me anyway!) Your argument is sorta like saying Facebook has 1.28 billion users so Social Media is a good niche to get involved in. (As if Social Media -- or actually MMO were really niches.)

          I'm not knocking this site. Actually, from a business perspective I think WF has done an amazing job. If they hadn't, they would never had been bought out by Freelancer. But you can't assume that their users are your users. They're not.

          I'm also not saying that it's impossible to make money in the MMO niche. There are, after all, people who can sell snow to polar bears. But I'll repeat what I said above:

          Originally Posted by kilgore View Post

          1. It seems oversaturated. At least based on the threads I've seen on this forum, it seems like there are three people trying to sell IM/MMO-related products for every person trying to make money online.
          2. I doubt if most people you'd be marketing to have much disposable income to spend. It's really not that far removed from trying to market products to the unemployed. Sure there's a need there, but I just don't see the payout.
          3. You're new to IM. What makes you think you could teach anything about it? And even if you could, what makes you think you could convince others without any track record whatsoever that you know what you're talking about? And sure you could do other things besides trying to teach, but you could also do those other things in a niche you actually know something about.
          4. There are far too many snake-oil salesmen, too many get rich quick schemes and just all around shadiness in the IM/MMO niche for my tastes. I'm not saying there aren't legitimate "gurus" or whatever you want to call them. But I'd rather spend my time working on my site than trying to sort through a bunch of BS to find the few nuggets of gold that are out there.
          5. It's boring. No way I'd want to spend the 60 - 70 hours a week I work on my site on an IM niche. And sorry, but at least in my experience hard work and long hours are the only way to be successful when starting a business.
          Nothing you or anyone else has said has addressed any of those issues.
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      • Profile picture of the author JensSteyaert
        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        I think they're very fully aware of that, actually - and equally fully aware of how terribly low the success-rate is, when people try to start out that way, even if they're not trying to "teach".
        I don't think the low success-rate is due to the fact that people are starting in the MMO niche and don't choose another niche. The main reason people fail is because they lack the focus and determination to keep going until they succeed and start to make some good money.

        The success rate might be higher in other niches because people that start in those niches are genuinly interested in it, and they don't give up after a few weeks because it's too "boring" or something...

        So the main question that needs to be asked is: Am i willing to put in the effort to make it work? Am i really interested in pursuing this business, or is it just the fast cash that makes me choose this niche? If yes, there isn't a better niche to get started in
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  • Profile picture of the author michakins
    The IM niche is a profitable niche and the door is always open for new players.

    Being a Newbie is even what makes it more interesting.

    To succeed in the IM niche, you need lots of creativity and a strong desire to always go the extra mile.

    If you can offer higher quality information that are better than what competitors are doing couple with your own personal views, then you're more likely to succeed.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brent Stangel
    No, no, no, no, no. I needed 10 characters.
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  • Profile picture of the author Zaflow
    Can you promote cooking when you never cooked a day in your life?
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    • Profile picture of the author michakins
      Originally Posted by Zaflow View Post

      Can you promote cooking when you never cooked a day in your life?
      Not a good idea. You shouldn't teach people what you know nothing about.


      But you can teach as you go through the cooking process yourself, cooking your first meal.


      You can make the process an engaging one by first telling your audience the truth--you know nothing about cooking but will like to learn how to cook delicious meals. Trust me, even your audience will like to be part of the journey.

      When you admit you don't know how to do something, the fear of saying the wrong thing will immediately vanished. Even though you know nothing about it, you can still build a great community where you can promote products and earn affiliate commissions.

      Since most people who will be visiting your website are beginners, they will immediately connect with you because both you and them are going through the same situation.

      How about that?
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        Originally Posted by michakins View Post

        How about that?
        Nice idea ... if only 10,000 other people weren't already trying it, all competing for exactly the same traffic.

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        • Profile picture of the author michakins
          Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

          Nice idea ... if only 10,000 other people weren't already trying it, all competing for exactly the same traffic.

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          You think it's impossible to build a popular website in the IM space within a short time?

          Well, many people have done it so I have a strong believe its achievable.

          People like Matthew Woodward, Brian Dean, Pat Flynn all started from the scratch and were able to build a successful site in this space.

          You just have to appear unique!

          Theres always loopholes beginners can leverage. Top marketing blogs like ProBlogger, John Chow, Moz etc are publishing nothing new, just the same old tactics.

          I can't blame them, they only want to keep visitors coming back to their websites, that's why they're all trapped in this new system of rehashing the same techniques.

          To succeed in this niche, all you need is creativity! Those top blogs had to introduced something new before they became popular.
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          • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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            Originally Posted by michakins View Post

            People like Matthew Woodward, Brian Dean, Pat Flynn all started from the scratch and were able to build a successful site in this space.
            Sure - we can all name the successful tiny minority, because they're the rare exceptions we've heard of, aren't they? Quite often that's even specifically why we've heard of them. My point relates to the other 9,997 people we can't name because we haven't heard of them. It's about whether you want to stack the deck in your favor or against yourself.

            We can always come up with exceptions, but it still makes sense to play the odds.

            In my opinion, the average beginning marketer is somewhere between 10 and 100 times as likely to make income in the grape-growing or hydroponic gardening niche as in IM/MMO-related niches.

            http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post8561081

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            • As a newbie myself (i started 2 months ago) i can only say that i've learned a LOT in this little piece of Time! (Special Thanks to everybody here in the Forum!!! )

              But like a few others already wrote, if you Believe in yourself and try to learn everything related to IM and most important TAKE ACTION you will get results. And if you have a plan that works,stick to that! In the Beginning i was sceptic too but when the Cloud disappears you'll see a never ending sunshine

              Do what you wanna do, not what others want you to do!
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              • Profile picture of the author michakins
                Originally Posted by Stucki1909 View Post

                As a newbie myself (i started 2 months ago) i can only say that i've learned a LOT in this little piece of Time! (Special Thanks to everybody here in the Forum!!! )

                But like a few others already wrote, if you Believe in yourself and try to learn everything related to IM and most important TAKE ACTION you will get results. And if you have a plan that works,stick to that! In the Beginning i was sceptic too but when the Cloud disappears you'll see a never ending sunshine

                Do what you wanna do, not what others want you to do!

                That's it!
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    • Profile picture of the author perryny
      Originally Posted by Zaflow View Post

      Can you promote cooking when you never cooked a day in your life?
      If you never cooked a day in your life, would you have a problem selling or creating:

      10 Top All Time Winning BBQ Rub Recipes (All the secret ingredients inside! Shhhhhh...)
      How to Calibrate Your Oven and Thermometer
      Top 10 Cooking Ranges for Small Spaces
      Favorite Recipes of the Food Network All-Stars
      The Ultimate City-by-City Guide to Restaurants Featured on Your Favorite Food Shows (can someone please make this? I'll buy it).
      How to Pick Produce the Right Way
      5 Proven Ways to Keep Your Produce Fresh
      The Ultimate Meat Doneness Temperature Guide
      Designing the Ultimate BBQ Pit Station
      How to Properly Season Your Cookware

      Ok, I'm no copywriter, but you get my point.

      If you can create a good, unique product that a niche might have an interest in, you have a shot.
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  • Profile picture of the author Miguelito203
    Originally Posted by NathanKruz View Post

    If you are completely new to Internet marketing, is the IM niche good to go into?

    I hear some people say NO WAY and then others say DO IT!
    I think it depends on the approach you plan on taking as you enter the internet marketing niche. For instance, I wouldn't recommend that you start a IM niche blog reviewing products as your first blog since you've had no success and don't really know what works.

    However, I think it's okay to have an IM blog that documents your journey as long as you also have another blog outside of the IM niche. Once you've had some success outside of the IM niche with a particular product or whatever, you learn what kinds of things need to be taught in a quality IM program for people to see real success.

    Joey

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  • Profile picture of the author gasman
    Many people will tell you no because you shouldn't start with a niche you know nothing about, but the truth is it's the best to start with because the more you dive into IM the more you will learn about it and it will help you branch out to other niches.
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  • Profile picture of the author neting
    Originally Posted by NathanKruz View Post

    If you are completely new to Internet marketing, is the IM niche good to go into?

    I hear some people say NO WAY and then others say DO IT!
    You say you are completely NEW to Internet marketing...

    You know what? Why don't you give it a try? Honestly, it will take lots of time and you might waste a few weeks or months of your life.

    But if you like it, you might fell in love with internet marketing! And if you grow passion for it, you will be able to overcome obstacles that will come up.

    I think your real question here is if IM niche is more difficult than others and if you can make money with it.

    1. Yes, it is more difficult to sell in IM niche in general, because sellers are skilled marketers and buyers are tired of all the B.S. that is on the market.

    2. Can You Make Money in IM Niche? Absolutely yes. But since you said you are new, you will first need to LEARN something, APPLY IT, and get your own RESULTS, before people will buy from you.

    But here is a golden nugget: Buyers in IM niche are desperately looking for genuine products and people that actually help. So if you can do that, you can sell. It doesn't matter if you just started yesterday. If you know just one more thing than someone else, than you are an expert to them and you can help them!
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  • Profile picture of the author natas105
    Absolutely YES! Why wouldn't be IM for you? It doesn;t matter what others say, if you are interested in the IM industry, you should go for it. Yes, you would need to learn a lot. Yes, you would fall on your face a couple of times, but isn't that with every new job?

    I don't understand why people say you need certain skills, or money to get into internet marketing. The truth is, you already have certain skills that can be used to get started or get going.

    The bottom line is, there is a big learning curve but if you believe in yourself and consistently take action, you're going to do great!
    Realize that at this stage: Do it for yourself, not others, and not the money. This is not a get rich quick type of life style.
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