Where should I start?

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I need guidance

Hello everyone,

I havent been here in a while. So, i've been reading about this stuff for a few months (3-4) and I've found countless methods to get money online. From flipping to Clickbank.
Point is, i don't really know where to start from. I've been considering to sign up in Fiver, but with comissions and paypal comissions i think i'd get only like 2$. That's a misery. Also i've been considering to sign up on oDesk, but i dont know about that site.
As for freenlace stuff, i'm good with photoshop (average-good). If I take a few days (maybe less) i can learn how to do some keywords research. But again, for 2$ i don't think fiverr would be a good option.

I was looking for other options and building lists and solo ads also. But i don't know how it really works. Besides as far as i know, you need traffic to make it work.

I've found out Clickbank and i've read stories from people who earned money there. I think the most difficult part is to get traffic. Can I promote clickbank products on blogger or wordpress?

I've been thinking to build a page and sell headers and logos there for a cheap price, but i dont know if it would work.

My goal is to earn 10$ pèr day. If i can get more would be great, but i want a small goal so i won't get disappointed if I fail. I've seen people here earning 100+·$ per day in 90 days.

Sorry for my english and ill appreacite help here. Thank you.

Advices are welcome

Thank you
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  • Profile picture of the author Sojourn
    I wish there was an easy answer to that question (there isn't) but what I liked about your post is that you've shown you've put some thought into your own skills and what you can do and what you can't do. I think that's extremely important.

    Just because John Smith made money doing something doesn't mean you could do the same. John Smith might have a special talent for copywriting that makes him successful and if you don't have that your results might be less than you'd like and you'd become frustrated.

    Take an inventory of your skills. What can you do well now? What could you learn to do well in short order? Then find something where those skills are an asset. If you excel at formatting PDFs into slick looking documents, for example, then look at offering a service doing that.

    You might also consider Fiverr a loss leader, depending on what you consider doing. I've never used Fiverr in any fashion but, like any other business, if you get a customer in the door even at a loss but can find a way to turn that customer into repeat business where you profit and recover the loss then it might be okay to pursue something where you don't net a profit immediately.
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    • Profile picture of the author WilliamVillagran
      The hardest part is really just starting. I would suggest get a good wso and run with it and see what happens. Just pick a wso with good ratings.
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      • Profile picture of the author buffnstuff
        I've got good news and bad news...

        The good news is there's a lot of ways to make money online.
        The bad news, is there's a lot of ways to make money online.

        My suggestion is to find a path and stick with it until you either you start to make money with it or you've pushed it as far as it can go and it's not getting you anywhere.

        Making money on Fiverr can happen if you do it smart. There are ways around their restrictive Terms of Service but you risk being kicked off if you do them. I suggest if you go the Fiverr way when you send your deliverables always include a text file with links to your email and or website if you have one.

        However if the powers to be at Fiverr find out about it, you may get banned from Fiverr. I have known of a few Fiverr people who have used this method to build up a clientele, but as I said above, it can be risky.

        If you're looking for an inexpensive PROVEN success model where you don't have to go through all of the hassles of creating a website, creating a product, getting affiliates, creating your own marketing funnels, etc. just click the link in my signature and optin. If it's not for you it's easy to opt out, just click the unsubscribe link. Additionally if you do take my offer and you need help, either PM here or reply to my welcome email and I will help you out.

        Good luck and best wishes.

        Steve
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        • Profile picture of the author Barry Cross
          Find a successful mentor who has been online for a long time & follow their proven success system. Most mentors have step by step video trainings which are simple to follow.

          You will pay a monthly membership fee but you will soon make that back & a lot more if you take consistent action.

          This is how I started as a newbie & it worked great for me. Most of these mentors work with Clickbank so you can earn up to 75% commissions.

          Go for it & believe in yourself

          Cheers
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    • Profile picture of the author Llehstun
      Originally Posted by Sojourn View Post

      I wish there was an easy answer to that question (there isn't) but what I liked about your post is that you've shown you've put some thought into your own skills and what you can do and what you can't do. I think that's extremely important.

      Just because John Smith made money doing something doesn't mean you could do the same. John Smith might have a special talent for copywriting that makes him successful and if you don't have that your results might be less than you'd like and you'd become frustrated.

      Take an inventory of your skills. What can you do well now? What could you learn to do well in short order? Then find something where those skills are an asset. If you excel at formatting PDFs into slick looking documents, for example, then look at offering a service doing that.

      You might also consider Fiverr a loss leader, depending on what you consider doing. I've never used Fiverr in any fashion but, like any other business, if you get a customer in the door even at a loss but can find a way to turn that customer into repeat business where you profit and recover the loss then it might be okay to pursue something where you don't net a profit immediately.
      Well, i've been researching and i've read somewhere that keywords research might be very useful and is a popular gig. Can someone confirm that?

      I can design deceng logos/headers for a web or facebook. I'm pretty decent with photoshop. I can use dreamweaver in order to build some css/html website.

      I've considered fiverr. But Fiverr take 1$ from the 5$. And if i use a paypal account i think they get a comission too. So basically i'd be earning like 2$ at the end of the day.

      Originally Posted by WilliamVillagran View Post

      The hardest part is really just starting. I would suggest get a good wso and run with it and see what happens. Just pick a wso with good ratings.
      I've read everywhere that the hardest part is earning your first dollar. After that things get kinda easier.
      I'm reading some good wso. I might consider it.

      Making money on Fiverr can happen if you do it smart. There are ways around their restrictive Terms of Service but you risk being kicked off if you do them. I suggest if you go the Fiverr way when you send your deliverables always include a text file with links to your email and or website if you have one.

      However if the powers to be at Fiverr find out about it, you may get banned from Fiverr. I have known of a few Fiverr people who have used this method to build up a clientele, but as I said above, it can be risky.

      If you're looking for an inexpensive PROVEN success model where you don't have to go through all of the hassles of creating a website, creating a product, getting affiliates, creating your own marketing funnels, etc. just click the link in my signature and optin. If it's not for you it's easy to opt out, just click the unsubscribe link. Additionally if you do take my offer and you need help, either PM here or reply to my welcome email and I will help you out.

      Good luck and best wishes.

      Steve[/QUOTE]

      Thank you. But I can't see your signature.

      Originally Posted by BigNate View Post

      Hey, send me a pm and i'll help

      Sent. Thank you
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  • Profile picture of the author ErinWalsh
    If you have the drive and can stick to it, there is much money to be made in the affiliate market. You do need to decide on a niche you can get excited about. Then keep your focus and drive sales to your bank account. You are right on, it's so about getting traffic. However, if you build a good reputation you will see you business grow. Just don't quit. It's really about longevity and gaining a skill. You sound like you've got some great talents/assets already. Keep bettering yourself and build up samples of your work. Just a few thoughts for what it's worth. Good Luck to Ya!
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  • Profile picture of the author dana67
    The best place to start, I think, is with a blog or a website. Create something of quality. Offer information and opportunity to your visitors.
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    Hey, send me a pm and i'll help
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  • Profile picture of the author imogenhobbs
    Originally Posted by Llehstun View Post

    I need guidance

    Hello everyone,

    I havent been here in a while. So, i've been reading about this stuff for a few months (3-4) and I've found countless methods to get money online. From flipping to Clickbank.
    Point is, i don't really know where to start from. I've been considering to sign up in Fiver, but with comissions and paypal comissions i think i'd get only like 2$. That's a misery. Also i've been considering to sign up on oDesk, but i dont know about that site.
    As for freenlace stuff, i'm good with photoshop (average-good). If I take a few days (maybe less) i can learn how to do some keywords research. But again, for 2$ i don't think fiverr would be a good option.

    I was looking for other options and building lists and solo ads also. But i don't know how it really works. Besides as far as i know, you need traffic to make it work.

    I've found out Clickbank and i've read stories from people who earned money there. I think the most difficult part is to get traffic. Can I promote clickbank products on blogger or wordpress?

    I've been thinking to build a page and sell headers and logos there for a cheap price, but i dont know if it would work.

    My goal is to earn 10$ pèr day. If i can get more would be great, but i want a small goal so i won't get disappointed if I fail. I've seen people here earning 100+·$ per day in 90 days.

    Sorry for my english and ill appreacite help here. Thank you.

    Advices are welcome

    Thank you
    Hi Llehstun,

    I really wish I could help you, but I really can't take the first step for you. Try to think about it through a marketing mindset. You can see the steps I normally take when choosing a venture to go into in a post I made just a few hours ago (my siggy!).

    I say stop looking at what people are doing and achieving and just think about your own progress. That's how successful people think - we zig when others zag because zigging at that point of time is what is best.

    $10 per day is easy. If you really want $10 a day, go to my sig, then read the steps. Go through them 1 by 1, and then write down possible things you can do in the steps. By the time you've finished it... Voila, you have a cashflow up.

    Another thing is that you need to get your feet wet. I used to be like this... Like I would be this strategist thinking of the perfect thing to do because I don't want to lose time, energy or money. But look... Doing nothing loses time, energy and money. If you succeed, you're going to break-even anyway with money.

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    • Profile picture of the author Llehstun
      Originally Posted by imogenhobbs View Post

      Hi Llehstun,

      I really wish I could help you, but I really can't take the first step for you. Try to think about it through a marketing mindset. You can see the steps I normally take when choosing a venture to go into in a post I made just a few hours ago (my siggy!).

      I say stop looking at what people are doing and achieving and just think about your own progress. That's how successful people think - we zig when others zag because zigging at that point of time is what is best.

      $10 per day is easy. If you really want $10 a day, go to my sig, then read the steps. Go through them 1 by 1, and then write down possible things you can do in the steps. By the time you've finished it... Voila, you have a cashflow up.

      Another thing is that you need to get your feet wet. I used to be like this... Like I would be this strategist thinking of the perfect thing to do because I don't want to lose time, energy or money. But look... Doing nothing loses time, energy and money. If you succeed, you're going to break-even anyway with money.

      Imogen
      Hello,

      I know i need to take the first step by myself. And the reason why i made this thread is because i wanted to get help, advices from experienced people, people who have been doing this for years.

      By the way, i can't see your signature for some reason.

      Originally Posted by jbsmith View Post

      Great to see that you are coming with some advanced thinking around your online business - you are already ahead of many people who haven't given this the thought or investigation you have.

      That said, there is a great deal of "I am ok at this...", " I'm good with Photoshop, but..." - the real question here is are you willing to go from "average" to "advanced" and then on to "very good" with graphics design? Is it something you have a passion for? If yes, then you have found your business - and now you can move on to how you market, distribute around your talent. But, if you aren't that jazzed about it and will stay "average" - not likely to do that well given there are thousands upon thousands of "average" designers out there.

      What really takes people from "average" earners (hobby income of a couple hundred bucks a month) to bigger incomes is finding a business they stick to, build a reputation, invest in marketing and then experience the rewards as the months go by.

      If you really want to get into graphics, then you have many options:
      - Freelance work to build additional experience and reputation
      - Gain some top customers and move beyond freelancing to direct contract work
      - Build portfolio of standard graphics that you can resell as a package (or give away to build a list)
      - Look for partnerships/JV's where you do the graphics work for a cut of the launch

      So many ways to build that as a business - possibilities are endless...the key is do you want to become "better than average" and do this for the next 2-3 years?

      Jeff
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      Hi,

      In fact i know i can improve a lot if i practice a few hours per day. I'm studying grapic design and i know i can get better. And i am also been considering to build a portafolio in blogger or wordpress. However, i want to get a good freelance site (i already said Fiverr wouldn't be an option).

      I could get better in less than 2 years since i like Graphic design.

      Originally Posted by Chris_Custer View Post

      Here's the deal. There's no ONE way or BEST way to do it. I think you're on the right track keeping your first goal of $10 bucks a day small. Getting going and finding your groove is a process.

      So where do you start?

      At the beginning. You're still getting exposed to all the different options - some for the very first time. Take a deep breath, and don't do any of them yet.

      You need a little more education. Probably not a lot. But some.

      First you need a plan. So here's what I would do if I were you for the next 30 days:

      1. List and Learn

      Make a list of each of the ideas, methods, business models that you've heard about that sound interesting to you. Then pick the top 3. It doesn't matter which ones, and they may change, but pick 3. Then spend some time using the search function on the forum and educate yourself on those 3. Then pick 3 more and repeat. Also, head over to Youtube and do the same thing. There's a lot of crap over there, but some really good training too.

      Point is, educate yourself. Bookmark threads and videos that resonate with you and go back over them. And start making a list of forum contributors that you particularly like. People who's advice makes sense to you and find other threads they've posted on.

      You get the drift. Bone up on the basics.

      2. Make Some Before You Spend Some

      There are lots of nice shiny things you can buy, especially in the WSO section. And they sound good. And many are. But don't buy anything yet.

      You need some startup dough first.

      Go to UserTesting.com and sign up as a reviewer. Everyday they'll send you websites to review. Some you won't be qualified for. But some you will. Do this for a couple of weeks while you're educating yourself.

      Two great things about this site. One, the less you know about websites the better. They actually prefer real people giving their opinions of sites. They're not looking for marketing advice.

      And two...they pay $10 for each one you do and PayPal you 7 days later.

      $10 a day goal...check. ;-)

      Oh, and don't spend it...yet.

      3. Find a "Mickey"

      Don't know if you've seen the movie Rocky (all time great, btw). But when Rocky is approached about fighting the champ, he know's he can't do it alone. He needs Mickey.

      He needs a trainer.

      So do you. Take the money you've earned from UserTesting (you do still have it, don't you?) and invest in someone's coaching program. Ask around the forum for some recommendations. And then when you find a solid one, stick with them. That's going to be your quickest path to success without a doubt.

      Do this and a month from now you'll be cruisin.
      Thank you,

      That's what i'm doing.. Im making a research to see the best options and i think i've found the best options, or at least, the ones that have called my attention. Probably i spend 3+ hours reading about IM.

      I also watch videos on youtube (10+ mins videos).

      And I am reading the WSO in order to find a good service or something. But i don't want to spend a lot of money yet. I'm kinda a distrustful person so i need to be completely sure about a system before i spend money on it. I hope it makes sense.

      It happens the same with a coach. Some people have told me/suggested me to get a coach since that would make things easier. But I have a limited budgment and i think it could be expensive to hire a coach.

      I'll check the site you suggested me. Thank you..

      Originally Posted by guido.nussbaum View Post

      You need to focus on just one strategy. Put all your focus on that one stratey that you like best.

      I'd suggest you go with listbuilding and solo ads. Next to buying solo ads, you can also generate free traffic. For this strategy you need two things: An autoresponder and a tracking software. Don't do this strategy without using a tracking software! You can then monetize your list by sending out follow up emails, a mix of good content and promotions. This can be combined with blogging and videos (for giving your subscribers great content).

      Before starting any strategy, you should get some information from people who are aready successful with a certain strategy. This will save you time and frustration... but don't just read the information that you get, you need to actually apply (or let's better say you need to test) everything that you learn.

      Hello,

      Indeed, along with clickbank, solo ads are my options. In fact i've read free ebooks and -blogs. I think you can even get a list and sell them. Am I right?

      Someone told me i'd need some paid traffic
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      Thank you so much to everyone for their answers.
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  • Profile picture of the author jbsmith
    Great to see that you are coming with some advanced thinking around your online business - you are already ahead of many people who haven't given this the thought or investigation you have.

    That said, there is a great deal of "I am ok at this...", " I'm good with Photoshop, but..." - the real question here is are you willing to go from "average" to "advanced" and then on to "very good" with graphics design? Is it something you have a passion for? If yes, then you have found your business - and now you can move on to how you market, distribute around your talent. But, if you aren't that jazzed about it and will stay "average" - not likely to do that well given there are thousands upon thousands of "average" designers out there.

    What really takes people from "average" earners (hobby income of a couple hundred bucks a month) to bigger incomes is finding a business they stick to, build a reputation, invest in marketing and then experience the rewards as the months go by.

    If you really want to get into graphics, then you have many options:
    - Freelance work to build additional experience and reputation
    - Gain some top customers and move beyond freelancing to direct contract work
    - Build portfolio of standard graphics that you can resell as a package (or give away to build a list)
    - Look for partnerships/JV's where you do the graphics work for a cut of the launch

    So many ways to build that as a business - possibilities are endless...the key is do you want to become "better than average" and do this for the next 2-3 years?

    Jeff
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris_Custer
    Here's the deal. There's no ONE way or BEST way to do it. I think you're on the right track keeping your first goal of $10 bucks a day small. Getting going and finding your groove is a process.

    So where do you start?

    At the beginning. You're still getting exposed to all the different options - some for the very first time. Take a deep breath, and don't do any of them yet.

    You need a little more education. Probably not a lot. But some.

    First you need a plan. So here's what I would do if I were you for the next 30 days:

    1. List and Learn

    Make a list of each of the ideas, methods, business models that you've heard about that sound interesting to you. Then pick the top 3. It doesn't matter which ones, and they may change, but pick 3. Then spend some time using the search function on the forum and educate yourself on those 3. Then pick 3 more and repeat. Also, head over to Youtube and do the same thing. There's a lot of crap over there, but some really good training too.

    Point is, educate yourself. Bookmark threads and videos that resonate with you and go back over them. And start making a list of forum contributors that you particularly like. People who's advice makes sense to you and find other threads they've posted on.

    You get the drift. Bone up on the basics.

    2. Make Some Before You Spend Some

    There are lots of nice shiny things you can buy, especially in the WSO section. And they sound good. And many are. But don't buy anything yet.

    You need some startup dough first.

    Go to UserTesting.com and sign up as a reviewer. Everyday they'll send you websites to review. Some you won't be qualified for. But some you will. Do this for a couple of weeks while you're educating yourself.

    Two great things about this site. One, the less you know about websites the better. They actually prefer real people giving their opinions of sites. They're not looking for marketing advice.

    And two...they pay $10 for each one you do and PayPal you 7 days later.

    $10 a day goal...check. ;-)

    Oh, and don't spend it...yet.

    3. Find a "Mickey"

    Don't know if you've seen the movie Rocky (all time great, btw). But when Rocky is approached about fighting the champ, he know's he can't do it alone. He needs Mickey.

    He needs a trainer.

    So do you. Take the money you've earned from UserTesting (you do still have it, don't you?) and invest in someone's coaching program. Ask around the forum for some recommendations. And then when you find a solid one, stick with them. That's going to be your quickest path to success without a doubt.

    Do this and a month from now you'll be cruisin.
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    • Profile picture of the author guido.nussbaum
      You need to focus on just one strategy. Put all your focus on that one stratey that you like best.

      I'd suggest you go with listbuilding and solo ads. Next to buying solo ads, you can also generate free traffic. For this strategy you need two things: An autoresponder and a tracking software. Don't do this strategy without using a tracking software! You can then monetize your list by sending out follow up emails, a mix of good content and promotions. This can be combined with blogging and videos (for giving your subscribers great content).

      Before starting any strategy, you should get some information from people who are aready successful with a certain strategy. This will save you time and frustration... but don't just read the information that you get, you need to actually apply (or let's better say you need to test) everything that you learn.
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