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Okay.. so I know that is a VERY open question.

I made a post, last night, that was intended to start some discussion about forum software and what types might be best used for my purpose.

Its now in the review section. If I put it there... I am pretty much an idiot as the question will never be answered. I don't know about you folks, but I never go there unless I am investigating a particular product.

I guess, I can understand how the mods might have thought that is the right place for my post.... I personally think they need to be a little more discerning. Bu then again... that's my opinion.

The again.... if I put it there myself.... I am a knucklehead.

Can someone help clear this up for me?

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chris
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  • Profile picture of the author Brent Stangel
    The again.... if I put it there myself.... I am a knucklehead.
    I would think that would be a tough mistake to make or forget.

    My guess, it was moved.
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  • Profile picture of the author ForumGuru
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    Originally Posted by Chris Grable View Post

    The again.... if I put it there myself.... I am a knucklehead. Can someone help clear this up for me?
    Chris,

    It was moved, your forum software thread was in this main section yesterday.

    Cheers

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    • Profile picture of the author Steve B
      I made a post awhile back because I was interested in how Warriors felt about an issue. Turns out, my thread disappeared almost immediately and popped up in the War Room, of all places.

      Had I intended that, I would certainly have written it differently. I was interested in discussion, but apparently someone felt differently.

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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by Chris Grable View Post

    if I put it there myself.... I am a knucklehead.
    The good news is that you're not a knucklehead, then (I never suspected it, anyway!).

    The bad news is that "Reviews" is the right place for it. Bad, from your perspective, I think, because it probably does mean that replies to it will be slower than they would have been here.

    But look at it this way: the alternative to that is that reviews and requests for reviews stay in the Main Marketing Forum, which in turn would be very bad news for the people with "Main Marketing Discussion" threads/questions here, because those threads (which do, after all, more legitimately belong here and are more numerous, too) would quickly disappear from the "front page", if so many places here were taken up by "reviewish threads" (along with all the SEO questions, email marketing discussions and other stuff posted here but kindly relocated to their correct homes by our ever-assiduous moderators).

    I'm "just saying" ...
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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
      The bad news is that "Reviews" is the right place for it.
      No, it isn't.

      This is a very common mistake, which I fail to understand, especially given the intelligence of the people who make it. The word review has a specific meaning in this context. It is not synonymous with recommendation or suggestion.

      "What do you think of XYZ?" might belong in the review section. although it's not what that area was created for. "How do ABC and 123 compare?" is less likely to be a proper fit, but I can at least see the thinking.

      "What do you recommend for Thus-N-Such?" is not a review section post.

      I looked at Chris's post. Definitely not a review request. It was moved there by a new moderator, based on a report from a senior member who is smart enough to know better.


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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

        This is a very common mistake, which I fail to understand, especially given the intelligence of the people who make it. The word review has a specific meaning in this context. It is not synonymous with recommendation or suggestion.
        Thanks, Paul - yes, I do take your point, if you put it like that.

        My own perspective is slightly different, albeit not with great confidence! I think I take "What do you recommend for such-n-such?" as a request for comparative reviews, the OP's intention presumably being to look through the replies, see who's recommended what and why, and to take that into account in making a decision about what to try, himself, for such-n-such. It doesn't seem to me to be much of a stretch, to assign that to "Reviews", given that there's a "Reviews" forum provided.

        Again, you'll think that I'm confusing "reviews" with "recommendations". And perhaps rightly.

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        • Profile picture of the author Chris Grable
          So.. I can see both sides too.

          For me though, what makes the difference is that I, while I would be happy for someone to tell me that xxx product is exactly what I need, what I was really expecting was a discussion with a couple experienced folks about a range of products and why their various features are better or worse in my situation or in others.

          I am not sure that that is really any different than a discussion about SEO techniques and how they apply or don't apply in a given situation.

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        • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
          Alexa,

          We have very different ideas about the flexibility of the lexicon, then. Leaving that aside, there's the matter of context. Look at the reviews section and tell me if it looks like it was intended to be used in the way you suggest.

          Expanding the definition of review to include those kinds of posts is not helpful in any way. It also doesn't fit with the intent of the section or what most people would expect to find there.


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          • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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            Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

            We have very different ideas about the flexibility of the lexicon, then.
            I doubt that, actually. So I imagine you must be right about this, confusing though it's always seemed, to me, for some reason.

            Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

            Look at the reviews section and tell me if it looks like it was intended to be used in the way you suggest.
            I can't tell you that ... (I can tell you I wouldn't mind seeing the entire section erased from history and from the Warrior Forum, but that's another matter altogether ).

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            • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
              Alexa,

              Having only recently looked through that section at any length, I agree. It would be a service to everyone involved if that part of the forum were nuked from existence.

              There's a lot of good info in there, but there is also a stunning amount of obviously biased, and often clearly made up, nonsense and abuse. And you can't moderate the questionable stuff out without getting into areas that aren't appropriate for a moderator to mess with.


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    Houston? You there Houston? We seem to have a technical
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    • Profile picture of the author Chris Grable
      LOL... well it helps to know that I didn't lose my mind. <grin>

      I really do appreciate everyone's thoughts on this. I think I will pop over there and see if I've had any responses.

      Cheers,
      chris
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  • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
    It's weird where certain posts are ending up these days. Earlier in the week there was a guy that asked a question on the main forum. It was far more oriented to online business than many of the posts here. He'd had some experience making money with his online business and was asking how he might get financing to expand. The post ended up in the Off Topic forum. If that's not an appropriate post for this forum I have no idea what is. This isn't an isolated case either.
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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
      TG,
      It's weird where certain posts are ending up these days.
      Weird, yes, but not surprising.

      If you could see the reports suggesting that posts be moved to various places, you'd be dumbfounded at how poorly thought out some of them are. The more experienced mods just ignored those. The new mods are probably acting on the reasonable (but mistaken) assumption that people who've been members for 8 years or more know better than they do. So, they move them.

      Whole thing, in a nutshell.


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