from affiliate marketing to creating my own product

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Hello everybody,

I didn't know where to put this thread exactly, so sorry if I'm wrong.

It's been now a year I think, that I started reading topics about affiliate marketing, and I saw many paid and free WSO about the topic, to be honest, I didn't tried all of them, but each time I try a method I found some problems (getting targeted traffic, push the traffic to buy a product ...).

And I thought it's not for me (losing hope about that ), last days, I thing about an idea, since I'm a software developer, I thought to create a web service that will help anyone to do affiliate marketing (keyword advanced research, getting contents, ...) for a very cheap price, in the beginning it will be free so I can get feedback from users so I can improve the service, and later it will be for something like $1 or $10 per month, depending on the services.

I don't know if there is kind of same service, I would love (as we are a marketing community) if such a product will be interesting for you, if yes what would you expect from such a product ?
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  • Profile picture of the author RichardF
    There are already many keyword and content services on the market - have you thought of any features that would make your service stand out?
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    • Profile picture of the author Samy Starburst
      Just an idea; if you're a software developer, why don't you create a software or a plugin that isn't yet on the market. Provide for example a free and a paid version.
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      • Profile picture of the author RuggeroSB
        As a developer myself, I can definitely attest to the fact it it's pretty hard to find something completely unique that doesn't exist at all that also meets a need/demand to be fulfilled.

        On the other hand, I see many, MANY horrible excuses for software being used regularly by IMers (me included at times) which can be done a WHOLE LOT better, and my experience in IM also let's me identify what's lacking in the software, since I catch myself saying, "If only it could ... "

        That's where you can outshine your competition. Reinventing the wheel on the other hand, you will likely find quite difficult.

        Very important point here: if you're a software developer, and can make good quality products which can outshine the rest then that's brilliant! BUT, just because you can make something great doesn't mean you'll make money from it. Driving traffic is still absolutely essential. If this is something you struggle doing yourself, then find somebody who doesn't struggle with it and TEAM UP. This is how truly successful people get ahead - they don't do everything themselves, they simply surround themselves with the people that do what their good at extremely well. I assure you, Richard Branson doesn't know how to fly a jet or make soda - but he's damn good at putting the people together that can...
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        • Profile picture of the author filalizakariae
          Originally Posted by RuggeroSB View Post

          On the other hand, I see many, MANY horrible excuses for software being used regularly by IMers (me included at times) which can be done a WHOLE LOT better, and my experience in IM also let's me identify what's lacking in the software, since I catch myself saying, "If only it could ... "
          And that's what I'm looking for. If only it could be ... (what), I need a lot of phrases like this from marketers.

          And yes I can team up with anyone who can help and why not to build a team later.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jarrod
    What Richard says is true, and in addition to that, you state that one of the struggles you had with affiliate marketing was getting traffic to your offers. I see nothing in your new plan with your product that changes that.
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  • Profile picture of the author helpandinfo
    How I WISH I was a software developer!

    The opportunity is vast for you

    Steps:

    1, You should establish a NEED - something that people really need in their web business. As Richard said above your Keyword/Content idea has been done to death (and generated/copied/filched content is not a great idea anyway). You should take the time to find something Not being done OR being done but very expensively so you know you can undercut them.
    2, Build your answer to whatever you have determined is the need.
    3, Build a membership program for it.
    4, Advertise it on here.
    5, Incorporate an affiliate program
    6, Buy a New Car

    OK only joking about the new car (maybe!)

    Those are the steps I took - BUT I had to pay a software developer to build the system and whenever I add another feature or function I have to pay the developer to do the work.

    That's fine I don't mind because I got NUMBER ONE from the above list right. It's still operating and going from strength to strength 3 years later. People have left me and come back later. It's all about the need.. And when you have established the business DON'T sit still - Try to add something, a feature, a new price point - whatever... every six months or so at least. (As you are the programmer this is FREE for you to do apart from some time.)

    Find the NEED and you have found a business.

    Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author Everett and Carol
    Since traffic is the problem, you will have the same problem as an affiliate as you wull will producing your own product.

    In saying that, it sounds like the software you are working on, would make a very good WSO. You could potentially make a lot of money with that. The good thing about that is the traffic problem is instantly solved
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    • Profile picture of the author filalizakariae
      Originally Posted by RichardF View Post

      have you thought of any features that would make your service stand out?
      Yes there is many many same services in the internet, but taking a look at them, i notice that they are too much expensive. And for sure, for a person that just start IM, he/she will not put as much money on one or two products.

      Originally Posted by Jarrod View Post

      I see nothing in your new plan with your product that changes that.
      Me no, but if I could have the help from a great marketer (partnership) or the help of the community, I can build the web service on the need of the community.

      Originally Posted by Samy Starburst View Post

      Just an idea; if you're a software developer, why don't you create a software or a plugin that isn't yet on the market
      This what I'm looking for, and now I'm searching what other marketers need and is not yet in the market, or already have but is too much expensive.

      Originally Posted by Southern Infotality View Post

      Since traffic is the problem, you will have the same problem as an affiliate as you wull will producing your own product.
      If I can create the product based on a need I will have less problems, also I will work with other marketers on this step
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by filalizakariae View Post

    each time I try a method I found some problems (getting targeted traffic, push the traffic to buy a product ...).

    And I thought it's not for me (losing hope about that )
    Originally Posted by filalizakariae View Post

    I thought to create a web service that will help anyone to do affiliate marketing
    I'm confused.

    You seem to be saying that you've tried affiliate marketing many ways yourself, haven't yet found a successful way to do it at all, and are getting disillusioned with it, "so" you want instead to help others to do it?

    Originally Posted by filalizakariae View Post

    keyword advanced research
    For all the reasons explained in this thread, that's of rather limited value to most potential marketers: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post8659398

    I understand that as a software developer, it's natural for you to want to make money from developing software, but why software designed for affiliate marketing, if affiliate marketing has let you down so repeatedly? Call me contrary, but I can't help thinking that in your position, that would probably be the one market for software that I'd probably most want to avoid, myself.

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    • Profile picture of the author filalizakariae
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      I'm confused.

      You seem to be saying that you've tried affiliate marketing many ways yourself, haven't yet found a successful way to do it at all, and are getting disillusioned with it, "so" you want instead to help others to do it?
      Yes by helping them, I didn't mean to show them how to be successful in affiliate marketing (too confusing) but giving them some solution to their technical problems, for example bring to them some tools that are too expensive that I can code, something like that.

      For all the reasons explained in this thread, that's of rather limited value to most potential marketers: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post8659398
      Thanks for the post every time I talk to you, you have such a gift for me thanks

      I understand that as a software developer, it's natural for you to want to make money from developing software, but why software designed for affiliate marketing, if affiliate marketing has let you down so repeatedly? Call me contrary, but I can't help thinking that in your position, that would probably be the one market for software that I'd probably most want to avoid, myself.
      I already make money by doing some freelancing stuff, but I wanna change that, I want to create something and sell it in the market, and in all my life as a developer I'd never found such helpful community in the internet as this. So I thing even if I didn't gain a lot (I will still trying) I can help the community with things that I can do.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    I imagine that as a software developer you do some good programming. Why not create a super simple course that shows people how to do super simple programming? You already have the credibility... i would use your talents and "paper and ink" certifications/degrees/attributes to prove that. The same way you would promote an affiliate product, promote this kind of niche product in the same way.

    It's hard to find an unexplored niche online these days. No matter what route you do though... make sure you have backend products to sell to your customers too. This is the most important part.
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    • Profile picture of the author filalizakariae
      the steps that you've mentioned are in my mind, and coming here today was the very first one, I'm looking to find a NEED. And I though that marketers need this, if not what do they need ? where can I find their needs ?

      Courses about software development, there is a tons of that for free in the internet, but if anyone would that I'm interested
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  • Profile picture of the author flyingskill
    Hi,

    You have to think out of the box. Offer something that can automate the process.

    In affiliate marketing people like the short cuts while being the white hat.

    Good luck to you
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  • Profile picture of the author hyzhenry
    Firstly, you need a good idea that the market is lacking. Secondly, if it does provide actual value, don't sell it too cheap. So that people would actually value it and make use of it. Then the word of mouth can go out. Also, you would have a margin to offer to affiliates as commission. How much do I have to work to sell something that would only pay me a couple of dollars per sale? It has to be appealing to both affiliates and end-users IMO
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  • Profile picture of the author filalizakariae
    Ok, what about automating the process as flyingskill said, it will be a web service, based on modules that will go by the user step by step, from helping choosing niche to selling the product. Based on some research on the method used by qualified affiliate marketers (not mine ) ?
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  • Profile picture of the author .X.
    Here's the BIGGEST LIE ever told in Internet marketing -

    "It's easier to make money selling your own product."

    I'm offering you good, sound advice filalizakariae -

    If you haven't had success selling someone else's product
    what makes you think you'll have more success generating
    an original idea, creating a site, a sales funnel, sales copy,
    recruiting affiliates, generating traffic, etc, etc, etc?

    Yeah, let's add a dozen more jobs to the plate, since
    we've haven't figured out Job #1, and hope things go
    better.

    INSANE!

    Especially when the idea you have is to create a product
    that helps people do something you haven't been able to
    do yourself (yet).

    Trust me, I am not here to rain on your parade but instead
    to say "Have you REALLY considered what I'm asking you?"

    I don't believe that anybody has any business creating a
    product if they don't KNOW how they will sell it first.

    The only people who succeed at that ALREADY have
    strong selling and marketing skills.

    Maybe you need a partner. Maybe you need to learn how
    to sell. Maybe, whatever.

    But I encourage you to look at this objectively.

    At the least find the closest software you can find to what
    you have in mind, attempt to sell it and build a list, and
    then you'll have a reason to believe this might fly. Sell
    THAT program like it's yours'. Receive the feedback and
    improve on that with, while building a list ready to buy
    when you're ready to sell.

    All the best to you - X
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  • Profile picture of the author filalizakariae
    Thanks X for the reply and the advice, as I said to other members in this topic I think I'll look for a partner to sell my product, but I can't do it now since I don't have a product to sell.
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    • Profile picture of the author SEO Power
      Originally Posted by filalizakariae View Post

      Thanks X for the reply and the advice, as I said to other members in this topic I think I'll look for a partner to sell my product, but I can't do it now since I don't have a product to sell.
      Doing some research using keyword tools and internet marketing forums can assist you in establishing the level of demand for any product or service. A software that is truly useful to the IM community will definitely sell and sell well when promoted by an influential internet marketer. What I'm implicitly suggesting is a JV.
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      • Profile picture of the author filalizakariae
        Originally Posted by SEO Power View Post

        What I'm implicitly suggesting is a JV.
        What am I supposed to propose to a JV since I don't have a product yet ?
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